Was The Titanic Sunk On Purpose?

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

Hi friends! This video was originally published in two parts earlier this year. Recently, with the rise of AI on KZbin and Facebook there has been an explosion of misinformation around the supposed Titanic-Olympic switch. I’m posting this longer video as a tool in case you or somebody you know might like to know the facts of the matter as they really stand! If you have any questions or doubt any of the points I raised in this video please leave a comment here and I’ll do my best to answer!

[@caserwanboy3112]

Hello

[@Theplane-t6g]

Hi

[@pietersleijpen3662]

Ah... I was sure you told this story before, so this is why...time for some debunking.

[@phaasch]

Hello Mike. Us, your subscribers are not fond of misinformation. In fact, and speaking personally, we are most displeased by it😁

[@funvideos1941]

Need video on thomas andrews

[@firstnamlastnam2141]

I feel like Ismay's complete shutdown after the sinking shows just how unintended the whole thing was.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

not just Ismay, but also they lost thomas andrews who was massively valuable as the ships creator and one of star lines chief architects

[@DavidOgborn]

An article I read years ago said that "Titanic"/Olympic was to be scuttled because of the bunker fire and California was to come to the rescue and save all of the passengers and crew. But the iceberg was hit ahead of the scuttling and California was not prepared for that. Carpathia showed up in the morning to take on the survivors.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

@@DavidOgborn Yeah and how ridiculous

[@Destroyer94100]

Of course… this also implies he would put himself in a life threatening situation on purpose. Ludicrous.

[@Archeantusable]

Yup, this was my first thought. No way he'd get on a ship if he knew they'd sink it. Especially one with such affluent passengers and lack of lifeboats.

[@dzy061]

Short answer: no Long answer: hell nooooooooooooooooooooo

[@DipseyDex]

Was its chance of survival pretty much flunked in the trash by greed, incompetence, and a 100 year cover up? Yes

[@DipseyDex]

To Elaborate, a fire broke out on the titanic that damaged the hull and weakened the area significantly where the iceberg hit. Which is what is theorised to have helped cause gash it got in collision.

[@Damon_Drawings]

⁠@@DipseyDexn- no what the fire didn’t even do anything bad in the sinking, it gave the ship a 5 degree list to port causing the ship to not become Britannic and capsize

[@MuppetLord1]

@@DipseyDex The fire helped the ship stay afloat for a longer time actually due to the moved coal giving the ship a 5 degree list.

[@user-tj7nb9fu9t]

Nothing happened couple days ago in London..just a "crash"

[@unpro04]

"Actually it wasn't the Titanic that sank" "This is horse shit! Don't you believe it, Rose, don't!"

[@sp1n4l_sn4p]

(Hawk slamming into Olympic) “OI! That’s White Star Line property! You’ll have to pay for that you know-“ “Shut up!”

[@vladekcirin6080]

As a newcomer to your KZbin videos and as a former Royal Navy Submarine Marine Engineer Officer in both diesel and nuclear boats, I would like to congratulate you on the excellence of your maritime videos. Your delivery and especially the content is of the highest quality. I particularly appreciate how you incorporate the detail that you manage to weave into your commentary. I look forward to looking at your entertaining, thought provoking and knowledgeable library of excellent videos. Thank you

[@jonilougy6608]

@@vladekcirin6080 🏆👏🙂 Best comment award to you, sir.

[@nickh.4917]

If this were true, in addition to being corrupt, Thomas Andrews would have been the ultimate company man because he would have been willing to die to pull off this fraud. That is some loyalty.

[@teemyoutube2066]

and Bruce Ismay...no guarantee he's getting off that ship.

[@grumpyoldman-21]

you know they might not have been informed of the switch, it would have been a need to know basis, loose lips sink ships ...

[@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361]

​@@grumpyoldman-21You seriously reckon Andrews would not have noticed the ships being switched over a period of six weeks??

[@mckenzie.latham91]

@@grumpyoldman-21 Thomas andrews was one the companies most valuable assets and a chief ship builder they were going to risk and or sacrifice him and bruce Ismay one of the highest executives of the company yeah right.

[@grumpyoldman-21]

@@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361 it's not like he would be on the shop floor

[@theratlivinginyourwalls-mi3mt]

THANK YOU for posting this. The misinformation about Titanic is so common that it’s impossible to bring up the accident in a group setting without someone saying “it was actually Olympic that sank”. It’s sad how facts are starting to be considered optional

[@Lady.B0420]

It wouldn't have been impossible to switch the ships. Insurance fraud has been around since the birth of insurance, but this year is the first I am ever hearing about this. I am willing to hear the theory. I love a good theory. You should never believe the top story given to you by the media or a government. They only tell you what they want you to know.

[@Leonard_Wolf_2056]

When titanic disappears, some generations after, people will go "Titanic never existed".

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

@@Lady.B0420 Insurance fraud doesn't work when the alleged perpetrators lost a major asset, their safety recird, and £500,000

[@BrinJay-s4v]

So why is the prop marked 401 its easy to find and read on you tube 3d pics.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

@@BrinJay-s4v Put simply, the 401 number is the blade at the wrecksite because the wreck is that of Titanic.

[@kyleolson8977]

The Titanic never landed on the moon, but it was sailed off the edge of the earth.

[@arthuroldale-ki2ev]

and Jack the Ripper on board !

[@oscard2994]

As seen on Dr. Who ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4vaZayjqbFliNUsi=BcSQ9UkdDUT8IuUh

[@kyleolson8977]

@@oscard2994 I would choose Erik The Viking. He sails off the earth ... and lands in Valhalla kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGfConufetKUbtk

[@Brandyalla]

Actually, Sam at Historic Travels has a video of Titanic in space! It never did quite make it to the moon, though

[@kyleolson8977]

@@oscard2994 There's also Erik the Red, where Tim Robbins and friends sail off the edge of the Earth and land in Valhalla (Or perhaps Stanley Kubrick made them think they were in Valhalla).

[@craigbowie8925]

Mike, I really love how you cover this video. You start off recognizing that there are people who have heard of and may believe this theory. Then you carefully piece together clear evidence that Gardner was the fraud. I love how you end pointing out the injustice of Gardner's attack on legitimate people who where victims of his false attack. Well done.

[@corvuscorax7451]

My first and biggest objection to the whole idea is... wouldn't it have occurred to anyone that staging a disaster in the ocean on purpose would do serious damage to White Star's overall reputation? Even if they could pull off some scheme for a big one-time insurance payout, White Star would immediately gain a reputation for danger that would haunt them for a long time. Who would want to risk a trans Atlantic crossing on the line whose latest and greatest ship sank on her maiden voyage? This does get covered in the video, but I feel it was very brief considering how big of a deal I think it would be.

[@Grouuumpf]

Especially while loading it with only half the number of lifeboat it needed, insuring to make it the largest disaster of its time

[@lilbread1717]

Especially when you go around saying your ship is unsinkable. You are going to make yourself look like a fool

[@SudrianTales]

Plus White Star already had a reputation from the Atlantic, why repeat that. J. Bruce Ismay was trying to advance White Star from his father's era

[@SiobhanFalque]

Not to mention of the cover up failed, and the public found out. The White Star Line would have to be the stupidest of the stupid to try and risk their reputation to that degree. If the public found out, White Star Line would be remembered as a criminal organization willing to sacrifice thousands for the sake of insurance fraud. The logic behind the switch theory is pretty much just "Corporation = comically evil and dumb".

[@mckenzie.latham91]

And that is exactly what happened, the titanic was a huge failure for white star line, their reputation plummeted and they lost investors and suffered stock drop the failure and loss of their other ships over the next few years only furthered to tank them entirely as a company

[@jamesbrown4092]

Captain Smith would have had to be brought in on it too. Imagine how THAT conversation would have went. Evil White Star Executive: "Captain Smith, the damage to Olympic has brought White Star the the brink of bankruptcy. But we have a solution: We'll swap the names of Olympic and Titanic and you'll sail the renamed Olympic to a predetermined where we've arranged an iceberg which will sink Olympic and we'll collect the insurance money. Unfortunately, that means that you and the bulk of your passengers and crew will die, but the company will be saved." Captain Smith: "Groovy" Maybe I'm getting cynical with age, but I really don't think so.

[@Trebor74]

Captain Smith actually asked about additional lifeboats prior to the sailing and was told they were unnecessary.

[@danielbishop1863]

"And remember, you'll need to plan the iceberg impact to damage the ship enough to sink it, BUT make a sharp turn just before impact so that any surviving witnesses will be convinced that we TRIED to avoid it."

[@rhyusbrand8311]

⁠@@Trebor74Because they weren’t believed to be necessary. Titanic already had 4 extra boats than required by law, and lifeboats (more commonly referred to as boats) were meant to ferry passengers from a stricken vessel to a safer one. This is why so much attention was put on Titanic’s watertight compartments: so that the ship would remain afloat long enough for another ship to arrive on the scene in order for an evacuation to the ship by the sinking ship’s occupants.

[@mrcase77]

The name Luigi Mangioni comes to mind here as well (as does the outcome of the sinking of the Lusitania)....as far as the firestorm and resources that would've come if it had come out this was premeditated and on purpose. 1500 people didn't survive that night (and they were lucky it wasn't more). But considering WHO was on that ship and who didn't make it out.... The Risk/reward ratio on a conspiracy like this would've been really poor. If they had intentionally put 2,000 people on that ship (that they knew didn't have enough lifeboats and they knew was going to be in cold water)... Common sense tells you nobody involved in a conspiracy like that would come out well if caught. Good chance a lot of them would've died in prison...possibly not from natural causes. If they had done what this guy asserts and it had come out, anyone involved would've been hunted down like a dog and they would've been not fared well afterwards given the level of public rage and the amount of money and power that would've been leveraged against them.

[@easycamperdandog]

We must all remember the saying," Never argue with a fool, people won't be able to tell the difference." Therefore, let people who embrace conspiracy theories be less informed than the rest of us. No one HAS to be logical, though it would be preferable.

[@jasonwilliamson8416]

James Cameron kind of disproved the switch theory years ago. He said in an interview that there were precious few photos of the inside of Titanic so when he made his movie most of his set pieces were based on the amply available photos of Olympic. While the two ships were nearly identical on the exterior, there were a number of differences on the interior. Several photos of the interior of Olympic simply don't match up with the wreck.

[@thelandofnod123]

Even the exteriors are different enough, and they are quite different, to discount the “theory”.

[@tonyhaynes9080]

There was also the number on the propellors.

[@nathangonzalez9710]

​@@tonyhaynes9080plus the freaking engines. You can change the propellers much easier then the freaking engines. You know the thing you would have to cut the ship in half and take it out bit by bit in order to move it around. Not freaking possibel

[@thelandofnod123]

@@tonyhaynes9080 There was yard numbers on so much of the ship, like thousands of numbers across the vessel.

[@hazelleblanc8969]

From the first time I heard the theory, I dismissed it. No group of ordinary workers, and all their families and friends, stays that quiet for their entire lives. Especially when it would make an amazing story in the pub and they are a bit drunk.

[@filmandfirearms]

Also, there are plenty of people who might go along with it if the plan was for no one to die, but once the news got out about just how bad the disaster was, suddenly a lot of the people involved would've been willing to speak out. The same thing happened with the M16 scandal in the US military. Intentional sabotage by corrupt government officials to torpedo the M16 in order to prop up the Springfield Armory design, which all fell apart once the M16 got into combat at that sabotage started to get a body count

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

Which theory the switch theory which is gobbledygook or the sunk on purpose theory? Cos if you think people don't stay quiet ponder this: a certain BBC entertainer who did some things did it for decades and here's a short list of who knew: Police BBC Secret police Royalty the military Other celebs The NHS Certain charities The Vatican American Intelligence And the victims. And this doesn't take into account all the people those people told their tales to. All stayed quiet.

[@filmandfirearms]

@JohnKobaRuddy The very fact you and I know about this disproves the point you're trying to make. Jimmy Saville wasn't 100 years ago and wasn't the worst disaster in maritime history with every journalist in the western world willing to pay massive fees for any information, and yet they still couldn't keep it hidden

[@romallama44]

@@JohnKobaRuddywhat are u talking about? You’re comparing a man assaulting a handful of children to an insurance scam involving thousands? Not to mention only a handful of people really knew what this “random entertainer” was doing. People who think they know what he did can’t speak in court, the firsthand accounts are used. Aka you’d need a person, traumatized as a child, to speak up and let the world know this man touched me as a kid. And you’re taking this and comparing it to a scenario where thousands were firsthand witnesses to an insurance scam bound to send thousands to their grave? It’s quite literally thousands of times more likely a worker at Belfast would’ve leaked this than a traumatized child, not bringing up that it’s factually thousands of times more likely, given there were anywhere from 3000-5000 workers at Belfast at any given time, just say you dont know what you’re talking about next time. U don’t understand psychology, timelines, or simple math it seems

[@creech847]

There were a couple of assassins on board who were to set off a series of devices. these devices were attached along the welded seam in the hull. Survivors tell of hearing four explosions.

[@Destilight]

This theory falls apart the moment olympic wasn't stripped of everything valuable and sank on its way to be repaired. Like any goood scammer would've done.

[@jamesricker3997]

The Titanic was also under insured. If it was suncome purpose it would have been over insured

[@Destilight]

@jamesricker3997 also good if you happen to ship some valuable cargo which you swap to another ship mid transit before it's sadly "lost" under the sea

[@mistertagnan]

That or similar but instead Olympic promptly catches fire in port and is a total loss

[@BalhaMilan]

@@mistertagnan This! Even if White Star really tried an insurance fraud, why would they come up such a complex and risky plan as switching their ships and then sending one out to the open ocean to sink on purpose... when all they had to do is set Olympic on fire as she was and no one would question it for a moment. Ships at the time fell like flies due to fire accidents, it was an understandably very common cause of losing a ship

[@Jwelly963]

When I first heard this theory it seemed ridiculous to me that Thomas Andrews would have been oblivious to the switch

[@mckenzie.latham91]

And if he was in on it, why did he chose to stay on board and die?

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

@@mckenzie.latham91I don’t subscribe to the theory but perhaps he didn’t expect the guilt to affect him so much.

[@ThatGUY666666]

As someone who fancies himself an amateur historian, I have a couple questions I ask any time I consider the possibility of a conspiracy theory being true: 1. What would be the rewards and what would be the risk? After all, if you are looking at a rather small reward it does not make sense to risk destroying your reputation and your career or to spend years, possibly even decades in prison. 2. How complicated is the alleged conspiracy? The more complicated it is, the more you risk something going wrong meaning you do not achieve your goal and you get caught most likely. 3. How many people would need to be in on it? The more people you have involved, the more likelihood somebody is going to make a critical mistake or give it the plan away. Especially if a large number of them need to be willing to risk their careers and likely long prison sentences. 4. Was there an easier way for them to achieve the goal(s) of their alleged conspiracy? I feel this one is self-explanatory. This is why most conspiracy theories fall apart in my opinion such as the fake moon landing, the murder of JFK, and so forth.

[@cliffrawson213]

spot on, as an amateur historian also, I use the same set of questions to address any outlandish claims.

[@adambane1719]

Yes, Titanic happened 100% how the papers said it happened. ... and Covid was made by bats in a soup kitchen vegetable market ....and Building 7 just fell down all by itself also... just like the newspapers said they did.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

Titanic 2 anxiety

[@ThatGUY666666]

@ I’m reminded of a great joke about conspiracy theorists that really nails what you’re dealing with. A man dies and goes to Heaven. God tells him that since he lived a virtuous life, he will answer one question and the man asks “Who killed JFK?” God responds “Lee Harvey Oswald with his gun from the book depository acting alone. The man’s response is “This goes even deeper than I could have imagined.”

[@easycamperdandog]

Great points. Especially the one where everyone involved would have to keep their mouths shut, something that would never happen. NEVER.

[@grimmig13]

The simplest of sniff tests: you're trying to save money by sinking your own ship and collecting on insurance; do you invest into an extraordinarily elaborate and (presumably) expensive coverup, or do you simply... sink the ship that's damaged and collect insurance?

[@AubriGryphon]

Or just collect the insurance on the ship that has been rendered unseaworthy. It's not like insurance only pays if the ship goes under.

[@SudrianTales]

Or set it on fire during a "refit" when everything valuable was stripped off

[@mynameiswritinwater]

As mentioned - simply set a fire while it is being repaired ? Of course, it needs to be properly insured first

[@mckenzie.latham91]

not too mention should you also sacrifice one of your companies chief ship builders as thomas andrews died on the titanic

[@AubriGryphon]

@@mckenzie.latham91 Well, the conspiracy theory says the collision and loss of life really were an accident.

[@saltatio1545]

There is another part that makes the switch theory highly unlikely: If the switch had happened, the damaged Olympic would have had to be repaired to quite a degree. Any damage to the machinery/propeller shafts would have to been fixed to reach her top speed in the trials that happened. All the structural damage would have needed to be fixed at least so far as to comply to all the regulations to get the permission to put her in service as the Titanic. All the superficial damage would have been needed to be fixed to hide the accident. So in what part would that have been significantly cheaper then to repair her in earnest? The Switch theory is self damaging in this point: the bigger the damage from the Hawk incident was, the harder it would have been to repair it enough to be able to fake her as a new Titanic.

[@sams.761]

Not to mention all the interior additions to Titanic, like expanded b-deck staterooms and parlor suites, the extended A La Carte Restaurant, and the new Cafe Parisian, all of which not added to Olympic until her 1913 refit or later.

[@martynbinkyboy2026]

Complete poppycock. Surely no company would be THAT evil! Anyways, who arranged the iceberg?😢

[@pavelslama5543]

"The ship is perfectly fine (with the exception of being masked as its sister), it even runs quickly, as fast as new, LET´S SINK HER!"

[@shaynewheeler9249]

😢😢😢😢😢

[@kingleech16]

@@martynbinkyboy2026 Icebergs work on union rules, it’s a lot of paperwork.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

Just a minor point about HMS Hawke. She was a ship of the 'Edgar' class, of nine First Class Protected Cruisers' built between 1889 & 1894. The class did not have actual ram bows, but ram-style, or inverted, bows, which simply meant that the most forward point of the bow was at the waterline, rather than at the top. This was intended to maximise the length of the ship, in order to increase speed, provide better hydrodynamic drag, and make the ship more fuel efficient. It was not intended to enable the Edgars to ram other ships to sink them. The Edgars carried 2 x 9.2 inch guns and 10 x 6 inch guns for the purpose of doing that. The bow was not heavily reinforced in the manner of earlier ships, such as the 1881 built HMS Polyphemus, designed from the outset as a 'torpedo ram' or indeed the Danish Tordenskjold, commissioned in 1882. There is an excellent photograph available of Polyphemus in dry dock, which shows what a real ram bow, intended for that purpose, looks like. The proof of this may be seen in the photographs of HMS Hawke after the collision, showing her badly crumpled bow. Something which would not have happened had she actually been fitted with a bow designed for ramming. Just one of a myriad of errors to be found in Robin's imaginative, but largely fact free, book. I fear.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

Titanic 2 anxiety

[@scottcantrell7348]

Anyone who has ever been a project manager knows how unrealistic this theory is in practice.

[@JoachimKettner-mh4re]

The terms "project manager" and "practice" don't match... ;-)

[@Leonard_Wolf_2056]

Even in theory it would not work.

[@Justchillinfornow]

Quite so

[@Hans-gb4mv]

A good lie is easier to believe than the truth (212th rule of acquisition). But theories like these are so ridiculous ...

[@halomultiplayermoments]

Spoken like a true Ferengi 😂

[@Isildun9]

Sometimes, the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer (208th Rule of Acquisition)

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

Never be afraid to mislabel a product (i.e. the conspiracy videos)-rule of acquisition #239

[@Isildun9]

@@AdmiralBlackstar The justification for profit is profit. Rule of Acquisition #202

[@captainjoshuagleiberman2778]

Another problem with the Official Secrets Act story, the Official Secrets Act was a war measure initially passed in 1917, 5 years after the sinking of the Titanic.

[@kingleech16]

Well clearly the White Star Line had to first fracture the space-time continuum.

[@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361]

Good call!

[@TheMattTrakker]

Official Secrets Act of 1889 and 1911.

[@TheMattTrakker]

@@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361 Except it's not true...

[@BNuts]

_Paris_ and _Suevic_ sink the conspiracy theory on their own. On top of that, there's the cost to reputation of sinking a ship, even if nobody dies in the sinking, because now your vessels are seen as unsafe. And over 1,500 people died due to insufficient lifeboats and exposure to the cold. If they were going to plan to sink a ship, they'd at least have enough boats, and have vessels nearby ready for rescue. But _everyone_ was surprised by the collision and sinking. And they underinsured because they didn't intend on sinking their ships. So many points against the switch conspiracy.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

The fact that Titanic’s sinking tarnished white star line and nearly caused them to go destitute especially after it got out how they treated the workers and families of the dead passengers and crew literally is the main reason these conspiracy theories do not hold water White star line almost ended because of the titanic and the mass loss of life and etc was such that they were tarnished internationally.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

Titanic

[@BNuts]

@@shaynewheeler9249 Yeah? What about her? Being a middle child myself, I have nothing against the middle sister.

[@PeteOtton]

And don't forget the material goods aboard when a ship goes down. That is going to make people very unhappy with you as well. A lot of wealth was lost that night in April, the rich and powerful don't forget.

[@BNuts]

@@PeteOtton That's a good point, and none of it sufficiently insured. Why? Because they never expected the ship to sink, There can't have been any such plan, or they wouldn't have loaded _Titanic_ up with more than they could safely carry off in the lifeboats. Looked at that way, the conspiracy makes zero sense.

[@monsieurcommissaire1628]

Mr. Brady, The world of ocean liner and ship enthusiasts owes you a great deal of gratitude, not only for your beautifully produced and entertaining documentaries, but for your integrity and commitment to truth. I've hated the "Old Switcho-Change-o" theory since I first heard of it and recognized it as pure balderdash. Titanic has been sadly burdened by wacko theories ever since her untimely foundering. Many with no knowledge or love of ships are all too eager to spew misinformation and embarrass themselves. >

[@WilhelmDasKaiser]

lol, sometimes I see misinformation but I am afraid I might spew out more misinformation lol

[@JacobSzukalski]

Reading your comment, Mike, I didn’t even realize the switch theory was exploding recently. I thought it broke up and sank a long time ago. But, I’m still glad you posted this. People need to know what really happened, and how these theories cannot feasibly work in reality.

[@user-tj7nb9fu9t]

Many things are very fishy about Titanic..Was the crew kept for 24 hours till they signed confidental papers..Why was Titanic 12 miles away from position they sent..Why was California captain asking non-stop are the rockets white or red..People see what today government Starmer is doing and think "my god they could really covered it up"..

[@user-tj7nb9fu9t]

Government said nothing happened couple days ago on Christmas in London..

[@dragosstoian5326]

@@user-tj7nb9fu9t What happened a couple of days ago in London?

[@AllaB07]

Clever

[@bradfry5403]

Thanks for another great video, someone asked me about the switch theory just a couple of weeks ago and my biggest argument against it has always been that after the sinking newspapers would pay out big money for any stories about the Titanic but not one of the thousands of H&W workers said "oh I've got a tell you something Gents"

[@SolidKing98]

Yep those lawsuits are a bitch and waste of a ship 😂

[@mynameiswritinwater]

The dockyard workers, their families or anyone visiting Belfast, professionally or privately, sailing to or from Belfast harbour as a foreigner, any journalist domestic or foreigner: cannot even imagine some Irish nationalist, anarchist or communist resisting the government *not* leaking this abroad in order to embarass the UK.... What scares me is people believing something this obviously absurd

[@astrinymris9953]

Or any of the Titanic's crew who were being sharply questioned on the witness stand in any of the inquiries which followed. You wouldn't expect the primary beneficiaries of the scheme to crack, but surely some of the rank-and-file being accused of lack of due diligence would have caved and thrown their superiors under the bus.

[@Scott-M1]

To be fair, over 130k people were employed during the Manhattan Project and they were none the wiser it was going to be a nuclear test site. Not saying anything sinister happened with Titanic, just pointing out that big secrets can be kept from powerful people without our knowledge.

[@brianrogers6320]

I, for one, appreciate how much respect our friend Mike Brady has for us, his viewers. He not only is well prepared, he actually puts in the effort to dress well and present to his audience true professionalism. No advertiser ball cap or T-shirt, no 3 day beard or unkempt hair. A clean cut, well spoken, dare I say, gentleman. At least from the waist up. Congratulations Mike!

[@simpleman5688]

Weirdo.

[@scratchback2001]

And as a gay Aussie guy, he is really goodlooking...gorgeous actually!!!!!

[@treystephens6166]

@@scratchback2001he’s a gay Australian???

[@jefferyG499]

@@treystephens6166 Read it again, champ. Hint: the person commenting has an avatar with two (2) dudes.

[@treystephens6166]

@ oh yeah that is a little, ah hem … strange…

[@mrgeebers]

Finally someone else debunking the stupidest theory of all time

[@glorbotv]

well technically it's not a stupid theory, no matter what the truth is, that just makes you ignorant

[@ralphdougherty1844]

@@glorbotvHow is it not a stupid theory?

[@glorbotv]

@ralphdougherty1844 JP Morgan

[@--enyo--]

Eh, I’ve honestly seen more videos debunking it that otherwise. But maybe that’s just my algorithms. ‘Decoding the Unknown’ does a pretty good debunking video on it as well. Plus one on the whole ‘did a book predict the sinking of the Titanic?’ thing.

[@StevenRogers-hw9dj]

@@glorbotv Could you post that in English?

[@History_At_Sea]

Thank you for posting this! Me and one of my family members have had multiple arguments over the past year about this, finally something to give him!

[@--enyo--]

Sadly if they’re that far gone it will probably just make them dig their heels in even more.

[@OtherWorldExplorers]

If the Titanic were the Olympic. By the authors own admission she (The pho Titanic) should not have been able to pass their sea trials and get her seaworthy certificate. Because she was badly damaged which was the whole crux of the switch.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

and if they repaired her enough to meet sea trials then they would have spent more money then they would make off the insurance scam which is a null cost...

[@jefferyG499]

Did you write pho... the soup... when you meant faux? How brain dead are you? Pho is pronounced fa.

[@TheMattTrakker]

@@mckenzie.latham91 You wouldn't need an insurance scam. If it was actually sea worthy, they'd make more money just using it than sinking it

[@IronMaiden756]

Olympic and Titanic had their names engraved in the steel plating. That would be difficult to swap out with all of Belfast watching. 👀

[@Johnboy1701]

My professional Titanic armchair opinion Gardner is completely full of bollocks. I think he simply wrote the book to cash in on the ships notoriety and is one of the worst people I can think of. He is not only besmirching the name of the ship but the memory of those lost on her.

[@curtyeomans8446]

Anytime a conspiracy theorist’s credentials are “I’m an amateur (XYZ),” I ignore anything they have to say. He might as well have added “and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night” to his credentials at that point.

[@areoborg]

So the insurance money they had left over after bribing all of the inspectors shipyard workers, and anyone else involved in the switch and coverup, (which involved gutting Olympic and moving its fittings to the Titanic to be reinstalled there since those fittings were sold as part of the Not-Olympic's scrapping and had the markings on the hardware that said they were for the Olympic) and moving the Titanic's propellers to the Not-Olympic, just in case the wreck is able to be discovered and documented 100 years later) were all paid well enough to buy their silence for the rest of their lives, since none of the thousands of people involved ever came forward to say what they had done. Not one person ever had a crisis of conscious over their involvement in the theft of millions of dollars and the murder of 1500 people. And the inevitable lawsuits and other such payouts to the survivors. White Star made more money doing that then they would have had they just sold the Olympic for scrap. Someone's math ain't mathin.

[@owenrichards1418]

Can you imagine the salvage teams? "Yeah, we recovered this engine part, but all the serial numbers and nameplates were filed off" That and the ships bell with the ships name drilled out and "tITaNucK" scratched in with a penknife. "Wow, that's weird, huh!?"

[@jackpayne4658]

That's the big problem with industrial-grade conspiracy theories - they need a a cast of thousands, all sworn to secrecy and/or paid off handsomely to keep quiet. Given human nature, such a universal omerta is far less likely than the official version of events.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Not too mention that the titanic sinking nearly wiped white starline out, their stock price plummeted, their reputation was forever tarnished, and they were globally attacked for their lack of safety and how they treated the families of the workers and etc afterwards... they lost the equivalent of billions in PR, reputation/name brand and stock price

[@thomasherbig]

You’re too kind when you say that Gardiner’s theories sound plausible at face value. No, they are so obviously and transparently wrong that only the most gullible - nay, those who would actively wish to be gulled - would lend any credence to them. Great video!

[@gmholden63]

I remember watching Titanic Secrets Revealed when i was 5 ish and i watched it pretty much all day every day for years, same with James Cameron's Titanic and A Night To Remember. But watching secrets revealed and the interviews they did with everyone and that Robin Gardner guy, i used to get so mad when i'd hear him speak. Never believed a single thing he said even back then. Thanks for doing this video Mike. All the best for the new year mate and to the family as well 👍

[@andrewg8791]

On Tues 31 Oct in 1995 I attended an event where Robert Ballard gave a talk in support of his then new book "Exploring the Lusitania" in the Sheraton on the Park hotel in Sydney (referring to my ticket card from the event). In the general questions section at the end someone mentioned the Gardiner book & his theory, and invited Dr Ballard's comment. He replied (based on my memory) something like "the ship I found was definitely the Titanic". IMHO discussion closed. I still have my signed book from the event and the lunch was good, too.

[@ShadowXII]

Yes, White Star sank their brand-new liner for a partial insurance payout, and a tanked reputation and third of their market share instead of paying for a simple repair. sure.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

and they intentionally lost of their top ship boilers, thomas andrews.

[@F-Man]

The ultimate death blow for this persistent myth is found in the history of a surprisingly large number of warships - I’ll use the Iowa class battleship Wisconsin as an example: In 1956, the battleship Wisconsin collided with the US destroyer Eaton, resulting in severe damage to the bow of Wisconsin. In response, the US navy decided to use the bow section of the incomplete Iowa class battleship Kentucky to replace the damaged section of Wisconsin. After the repair, Wisconsin reentered service, only to be removed from the naval register in the early 2010s, having seen combat as late as 1991. If a warship could be repaired and returned to service with what would otherwise be catastrophic damage, Olympic, an ocean liner, absolutely could be repaired and put back into service in a similar manner. The Wisconsin story is but one of many - look up HMS Zubian to get your mind really blown.

[@mistertagnan]

AFAIK Zubian isn’t the only ship that was once two ships. There was at least one civilian steamer made in a similar era to the Olympic sisters that had a new stern(?) section made following the previous stern being lost

[@mistertagnan]

Not the one I was thinking of, but the SS Mapledawn/Manola is one example of a ship that survived losing its bow and then became a new ship

[@ColoradoStreaming]

USS New Orleans also had its bow blown completely off by a Japanese torpedo in WWII and was towed to Pearl Harbor for repairs then returned to service. Its actually pretty remarkable how much a ship can be damaged yet repaired and put back to sea.

[@ZenkoTheGreat12]

I was surprised that “Zubian” was not mentioned in this video. USS Minneapolis lost her bow too, but no turrets. USS New Orleans lost her bow AND turret 1. Both were repaired and returned to service.

[@jefferyG499]

There was an *entire practice* under various names but primarily called "embiggening" WWII transport and cargo vessels to massively increase their carrying capacity after the war ended. Shipyards added some 20-80% to their overall length by bifurcating them and adding in hundreds of feet of extra length. It was extremely economical compared to building new ships or even continuing to use them as they were.

[@modelrailpreservation]

There's two things I want to thank you for, Mr. Brady. First is your intro. It was one of the things that helped a year ago back when I was battling depression. I don't care how much hate or ridicule I get for that, but yeah, it helped a bit. Second, is at the end of this video, mentioning the damage to the legacy of all involved. My own personal belief puts a lot of value on legacy. What will someone be remembered for. Wild theories like the switch theory, do damage to the legacy of just about everyone involved. So thanks for remembering them.

[@Necro3Monk]

To sum up other comments and the video to show this was a totally plausible theory that definitely happened, the cost comparison: -Problem: ship collides with other ship, is damaged. Potential actions: A. Repair ship, put back into service. Costs: -Direct cost of repair OR insurance pays for it, and insurance rates might go up (I don't know anything about ship insurance these would have had) -Loss of income for the time the ship is being repaired. b. Deliberately sink ship, switch with other ship, use insurance payout to build new ship (If the ship was worth spending the money to build, it is safe to say that White Star prefers another ship to keeping the money) Costs: -Cost of building a new ship. Paid for by insurance, mostly, but some must be paid for by the company and possibly insurance rates go up (see above about insurance knowledge) -Loss of income for the time it takes to build a completely new ship -Cost of refitting ships to carry out switch. Make sure to chase down all possible documents about the ships, perhaps muddle the waters in case some details slip through, create confusions about which ship is which. -Cost of keeping everyone quiet about said refits. -Loss of reputation from being involved in an accident. --More severe if sinking is carried out in a way that gets more people killed. Presumably white star wants the ship to sink under conditions where everyone can be rescued. -Payouts from lost property aboard ship. -If sinking goes poorly, the loss of crew, some of which represent a lot of training and experience. Crew will also make sure of their own volition to carry out sinking under conditions where they will be rescued, and will use their knowledge of the plan to make sure they survive. Obviously, option B is the preferred choice.

[@bradparker9664]

Your timing is impeccable. About a week ago, I saw a very persuasive switch video. I immediately thereafter found your two part...I'll call it a "rebuttal." Even though I just saw this in its two part form, it was quite enjoyable and I'm now watching the hour long version. Excellent work.

[@piefighter36]

Fun fact: there are more planes in the ocean than ships in the sky

[@SeanMurphy9343]

😂 👌

[@sirmounted8499]

prove it

[@piefighter36]

@sirmounted8499 my mom said so (checkmate)

[@kingleech16]

@@piefighter36 And as any Ogryn will tell you, mama don’t lie.

[@flyingcaledonianproduction5427]

Well you don't say

[@kevinbarry71]

There is no conspiracy too stupid to be embraced by some people

[@GlutenEruption]

Honestly I don't even understand this one. Why on earth would they intentionally destroy their reputation by staging the worlds worst tragedy to get an insurance payout when if the ship was too badly damaged to ever use again to begin with, just go to the insurance and get your payout RIGHT THEN! If it's not, then have the insurance fix it. How is it a difficult situation?

[@magnemoe1]

Yes this is obviously more believable than flat earth. Who can be easy disproved by stars position over the horizon as you move north or south. Or rather celestial navigation proved the earth was round back in ancient times. Its still an stupid conspiracy. And as shown here ships even of the same class tend to have differences. More so after the first is in use. lets move the first funnel an foot forward for good reasons stuff.

[@GlutenEruption]

@@magnemoe1 true although a huge contingent of the flat earth audience are evangelicals convincing themselves the Bible says the earth is flat and believing it as a mater of religious conviction regardless of how absurd. I mean it's probably way easier to believe for someone with no fundamental scientific understanding, who has never travelled much beyond their small town and has no interest in examining reality to understand how it works than parting the Red Sea or walking on water or other miraculous claims they believe - after all the earth FEELS stationary and immovable and it LOOKS kinda flat if you squint at it...

[@user-tj7nb9fu9t]

​@@GlutenEruptionThey didn't had qny safety reputation..They lost several ships in 1800' and Titanic captain damaged himself several ships Belfast Olympic..

[@jone8626]

@@GlutenEruption Really shows you have done ZERO investigation into the matter.

[@mike.4277]

I never believed the switch theory. Awesome video 💯💯💯

[@johnshepherd9676]

If you want to see how much damage a ship can take and still be repaired read the damage report of thr USS West Virginia. The damage to the Olympic was a minor fender bender in comparison.

[@Depressed_Nightfury]

While I agree Ship's can take a beating, Battleships are designed to take a massive kicking and come home. Ocean liners are not. What WeeVee recovered from would have annihilated any ocean liner permanently.

[@johnshepherd9676]

@Depressed_Nightfury Olympic took the equivalent of a single cruiser caliber round. That is not enough to turn an oceanliner into a writeoff.

[@Depressed_Nightfury]

@johnshepherd9676 I agree. However my initial point still stands

[@PeteOtton]

You do realize that naval ships, Battleships especially are designed to have pointy pieces of metal hit them at high velocity and then go boom with high energy? Their armor is designed to prevent said projectile from penetrating magazines and possibly machinery spaces. They are also truly designed to be watertight with hatches through the bulkheads raised up and lined with rubber to form a tight barrier. Things like that are a major annoyance to passengers looking to stroll about.

[@Depressed_Nightfury]

@@PeteOtton Exactly what I'm getting at lol

[@kenthicks1165]

I think somebody should have checked what type of tobacco Gardiner was smoking. Sorry to say but there are people that would make up stuff just to make a few bucks. I enjoy your work and have learned a lot of cool stuff. Thanks

[@RandomAussie-dx9fj]

Short answer: nope. Nada. NEIN. No.

[@video-luver769]

Short answer: No. Long answer: Also no. Gardiner is a hack.

[@brucebenson9651]

Wouldn't all the yard workers have to be involved in the switch? How do you keep hundreds of ship yard workers quiet? How do you keep all the upaper supervisors, management and leaders quiet for a lifetime? It's interesting on paper but I just can't believe the human factor. Some whistle blower would have come forward. ' I was the guy who changed the names on the boats" never came forward after the most dramatic story of the decade. Not belivable. Love the channel!

[@Justdisco2]

I've never agreed with the switch and I'll never change my mind, Since Titanic was a brand new ship and if the conspiracy was true and a switch between Titanic and Olympic did take place this damage and patch up job would have been spotted at Southampton by eager members of the public, That is just one reason I believe no switch took place.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Not too mention Thomas andrews the father of titanic who knew his ship by heart would not have spotted a difference?

[@noodlethesnake6927]

I love the thumbnail!

[@paahl1572]

19:51 the repair work that can be done to ships is incredible. Look up the Lee A Tergurtha sometime. It was a tanker in WWII and was converted into a bulk carrier for the Great Lakes. The modifications were so extensive it’s almost a new ship now.

[@ladyzapzap9514]

The USS Wolverine and the USS Sable come to mind here…freshwater paddle wheel passenger steamships became a flat top aircraft carriers on the Great Lakes during WWII.

[@rrice1705]

@15:47. Thank you much for this diagram. Considering how much the Hawke's ram protrudes, I couldn't figure out why the lower hole wasn't bigger than it ended up being. With the diagram, you can see it's because of the way Olympic's hull curves in that area.

[@htewing]

My rule of thumb with conspiracies is this: if it relies on more than ten to thirty people (at most) to keep a secret, there's no way it's true. As soon as it relies on a bunch of people to keep a secret? There's no way in hell it's staying a secret for long. It's a surprisingly effective metric.

[@ColdWarShot]

There have been effective conspiracies involving more than 30 people that have flown under the radar of mainstream history and public perception, but it’s quite rare. Few involving Governments last more than 15-20 years before being fully exposed and well documented by historians, and usually because they were so badly executed.

[@EricDaMAJ]

That is a surprisingly dumb metric if you consider all the military secrets successfully hidden for years, even decades after the fact.

[@Scott-M1]

You may be on to something there, as less than a handful of people knew the true intentions of the Manhattan Project. Around 130k people were employed from scientists, engineers, construction workers, etc. And they didn't even know.

[@PeteOtton]

Yes, the old axiom of 3 can keep a secret, if 2 are dead.

[@EricDaMAJ]

That's a dumb rule if you consider all the military secrets held successfully for years, even decades, after a war. Secrets held by sometimes thousands of individuals.

[@GamingGrenade1]

There will always be people on the internet who claim to be right regardless of the evidence in front of them but hopefully this video will help people learn the truth and and clear up the rumours and false information

[@xxxxz4862]

oh shut up. Theories are fun to talk about.

[@seanchristopher91]

​@@xxxxz4862Yes, theories are fun to talk about. Just don't pass them off as reality when talking about subjects like this.

[@sp1n4l_sn4p]

@@xxxxz4862sorry you got kicked in the shins everytime the sun shined, but that’s not how you talk to people who care for the right information being relayed to others.

[@split117]

When they literally taint history I disagree personally

[@Iamhungey]

You can never underestimate how stubborn people can be however, it's generally the best and worst trait one can have. You should have seen the comments section of a video about the switch theory by Mike Brady, it was crazy last year.

[@danielpetrucci8952]

I thought the same thing 2 years ago but Realised that both Titanic and Olympic had different A Deck Promenade Olympics was open Titanic's was closed or something like that also Olympic had 13 portholes on her bow Titanic had 14

[@Ned_of_the_Hill]

This was an excellent video that shows both a real dedication to presenting the facts of history but also a real respect for the people of the past who can no longer speak for themselves. I've recommended your channel to friends who are interested in "Titanic" and I always look forward to your new videos. Happy New Year!

[@LancerloverLL]

One hundred years from now someone is going to read these comments and think to themselves: "All these people are dead now..."

[@steriskyline4470]

Nice dude, happy new year 😂

[@pavelslama5543]

That´s not a fact exclusive to this matter.

[@Warped9]

I have met individuals who fervently believe this kind of conspiracy. No amount of irrefutable evidence and facts would sway them from it. It’s crazy.

[@egm8602]

Some prefer human control over random destruction. The idea that the managing director, captain and even the wireless operators could be so negligent as to unwittingly sink a huge ship boggles small minds.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

which is why you mock them, and make everyone see them as what they are.

[@jopoveromo1054]

Aren’t there entire communities built around these shipyards? At least a few thousand people have to be involved to build that ship in 6 weeks, it would be common knowledge that they are switching the ships. Even historical tyranny couldn’t keep everyone silent, you think a company like that could do so? Absolutely not.

[@PeteOtton]

Try entire cities. Only in Japan with the construction of the Yammato and Musashi where the shipyard was completely concealed from sight and the workers were threatened could such a secret be kept. And that was only about the shear size of the ships, not that they existed.

[@MrShoryuken1]

I'd love to see you do a tongue in cheek video about the film Deep Rising and the ship "Argonautica" (a nefarious plot to deliberately sink a cruise ship for insurance purposes).

[@FunSizeSpamberguesa]

That would be a perfect April Fool's Day vid

[@stananders474]

The real Olympic was repaired and served 25 years. When it was scrapped as an old ship surely the repairs would be seen. Also, the repairs could be seen for 25 years.

[@EflowNivek]

Clickbaiting the conspiracy theorist, that's great The sad part is I had a comment on the first video lampooning the whole idea and *I still* got conspiracy theorists. It's just humans have become so rational that we don't want to believe random chance compounded with hubris and simple mistakes could kill so many because we want an illusion of control in our world.

[@Vonononie]

That’s exactly it. I remember a conspiracy theorist saying that she couldn’t accept that Princess Diana died in a tragic but simple accident. There had to be more to it, because if the world’s most famous woman could die in a car accident, that meant it could happen to anyone. That’s why people believed humans control storms, the sea, and weather because people want to believe we are in control

[@owenrichards1418]

Especially as it requires a huge amount of competency and control in the world that frankly, does not exist. The President of the United States can't get a blow job without everyone knowing about it, but somehow huge conspiracies involving thousands of people staying completely silent for decades are just part of the landscape. Yeah, right!

[@split117]

So true, so many of the big conspiracies like Israel/jews controling the world or mh370 to add on to the other commenter revolve around people refusing to be believe that accidents happen and that it almost always takes a plethora of events to cause an accident. Ships, planes, and cars have all improved sadly because of accidents

[@steriskyline4470]

I think the problem is that people have been lied to by governments so much that they just find it hard to believe anything substantial happens as its been reported.

[@user-tj7nb9fu9t]

What happened few days ago in London at Christmas?What did government say about it

[@ChaitanyaSharma-w5f]

This video has a brilliant thumbnail!!!

[@insanelylonleyauthor1829]

We all know Titanic collided with Godzilla's back crystals and got tailed whipped. Resulting to be cut in half

[@billy_bob149]

It’s honestly really sad how people just carelessly spread misinformation about tragedy’s that cost the lives of hundreds just for clicks. Thanks for calling this out and debunking this nonsense Mike. Always great to see you upload -Billy bob :)

[@MellieMMcB]

Thank you for explaining this. I have heard of this "theory," before. I was never sure where it originated from. Thank you for your wonderful videos and your thorough work as always.

[@fabricspace638]

Woah! It's our friend,Mike Brady again! From Oceanliner Designs!

[@SRW_]

Yes comrade! He is dispensing of capitalist propaganda

[@StoneSailsSculpture]

Big occams razor type way to dissect a consparicy is: How many people must know about it? And, is the incentive big enouge for them to remain silent? If thousands of people are involved, and the incentive is very low, how then does no information outside the consparicy theory exist?

[@Scott-M1]

The Manhattan Project is a great example of this.

[@Rowdy_GB]

I had never heard that she had collided with the "rescue ship" before nor the actual values of the insurance. The more you dig into this theory, the crazier it gets.

[@linkesocke4533]

Another huge problem with this theory is that it doesn't make any business sense. The insurance payout was 1 million, but after the sinking white star was sued for over 16,8 million, which the claiments then reduced to 2.5 million. White Star was able to settle for only 664k and still had to pay their own lawyers. They also spent six months refitting the "olympic" to make her safer after the crew went on strike and the 1500 dead people hurt their ticket sales a lot for a while, too. Not to mention whole thing could easily blow up, tank both companies involved (white star and the shipyard) and sent people to jail if a whistleblower or disgruntled employee (or even a belfast citizen) ever talked about it to the press or police. And there would have been a lot of people involved in this.

[@theWanderersnotebook]

It’s always a good day when our friend Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs uploads a video!

[@thermalreboot]

The idea that White Star Line would sink one of it's ships and put it's passengers in danger is absurd. No cruise line wanted that kind of press, White Star never recovered from loss of Titanic and eventually was taken over by Cunard.

[@boatbloke6701]

As always Mike a brilliant and respectful analysis of the subject. You were even respectful to the perpetrator of this absolute load of preposterous nonsense and I commend you for that. As I am sure many people will comment is that, leaving everything else aside, for this to be reality you would need the silence of an entire Irish City, never going to happen. I always look forward to your content, thank you!

[@jamesbrown4092]

If you want to know what shipyard workers are capable of, then look no further than HMS Zubian - where they took the bow section of damaged HMS Zulu and fitted it to the mid and aft sections of damaged HMS Nubian. Repairing the damage to Olympic would have been child's play by comparison.

[@PeteOtton]

There was plenty of impressive damage done to both the Grand Fleet and High Seas fleets, that while not as impressive as the reconstruction of HMS Zubian, was patched up after their one tiff and the ships stayed in service. A fair number of US cruisers around Guadalcanal had a knack for losing their bows and were repaired. (After making an arduous journey with coconut logs across the missing bow.)

[@Realsuperdoctor3]

Olympic had a round base wheel house in which Titanic was square, everything on the wrecksite had the 401 shipyard number stamped on it also the propellers, the huge undertaking by switching the two ships is impossible to be kept secret, there was no switch.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Yeah they got switched while side by side, in the most populated port on the planet at the time with over 20-30k dock workers engineers, merchants, fisherman, passengers, and etc, and no one knew, or they decided to pay off everyone which would have bankrupted them in bribes yeah right

[@AngelDRose]

This whole theory is ridiculous. True titanic historians know this. Plus you can clearly see Titanics hull number on the wreck.

[@WowCoolHorse]

I firmly believe that conspiracy theories like these are rooted deeply in people's absolute refusal to accept that sometimes bad things can just happen, accidents can happen, and that often there is not something or *someone* to blame.

[@paulmoffat9306]

This is a re-statement of a DVD production released in 2012, titled "Why they Sank Titanic" and later re-released as "Titanic, the Shocking Truth" (the first issue was the better of the 2), but both were essentially the same except for the introduction. It was in 'docu-drama' format with acted sequences along with gathered facts.

[@seza777]

Successfully doing a swapsie on the 2 largest ships of the time is a funny thought

[@cynthiahutchins5790]

I think the whole thing sounds pretty funny…..

[@mckenzie.latham91]

in the middle of one the most populated ports in the world, in front of 15-20 k dock workers, merchants, passengers and etc.

[@dkmorris713]

What a stunning achievement. Finally an in depth and precise account of this topic. I appreciate your team's effort in producing such amazing content. Thanks, Friend.

[@littlemiss_76]

Yes the iceberg was paid to sink the Titanic.

[@owenrichards1418]

But, but, this is exactly what big iceberg wants you to think!!!!!

[@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid]

[cut to the iceberg sitting by a pool in the Bahamas, surrounded by chick bergs, sipping champagne] 😎

[@mckenzie.latham91]

No a giant octopus threw the iceberg at the titanic after being tricked by a gang of criminal harks, working for a human whaler...

[@tahliae]

I missed this when it first came out, so I’m very happy to have it all in one video! Thank you!

[@jimwhall6609]

If Olympic was such a nightmare of damage how did they get her mechanically in shape enough to go 20kts on 1 prop and 1 engine to fake Titanic maiden voyage?

[@davinp]

There is a documentary titled "Why They Sank Titanic" in which they say the White Star Line planned to sink the Titanic and Captain Smith was in on it. They also say the SS California was placed nearby to rescue the Titanic. It's on KZbin.

[@thelordofcringe]

And it has no evidence, just schizophrenia.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

and yet the California failed to show up, smith died, as did thomas andrews, and the sinking nearly bankrupted white star line and ruined the companies reputation for the rest of its days

[@jefferyG499]

Oh wow! It's on KZbin? That makes it credible. It's not like just *anybody* can upload something to YT.

[@tonycypriot9401]

Hello our friend Mike Brady, nice to see the update. Here's another interesting topic, who really was to blame for the Olympic/Hawke collision? Personally I've never agreed with the verdict and would vindicate the Olympic.

[@htilden42]

J. Bruce Ismay, according to this conspiracy: "Egads! My Olympic is ruined! But what if...I were to disguise the Olympic as the Titanic and sink her for the insurance money? Ho ho ho, how delightfully devilish Bruce."

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Which is funny because Burce Ismay wanted and needed titanic to succeed to bolster his revitalization of white star-line he was trying to fix the loss of reputation and prestige that had occurred under his father and having the largest maritime disaster of history which nearly tanked the white starline business in stock plummet and the tarnished reputation that remained with it for the rest of its days seems like not worth the effort.

[@RichieW90210]

I’ve got a friend who thinks not only was it was sunk on purpose, for insurance, but that it’s really the Olympic. But he also thinks that Michael Jackson is still alive, and that Adele (the slimline version) is an imposter.

[@RobKaiser_SQuest]

Hee hee.

[@fuzzjunky]

i got a friend just like this. I firmly believe he thinks his Due Diligence is to believe the most interesting thing he can. he's really loud at the moment. banging on about fauci and all sorts of nonsense.

[@marylut6077]

@@fuzzjunkyhe wants interesting? So he would believe the government faked his birth certificate, he is an extraterrestrial from Area 51.

[@Oscar_the_fascist_slayer]

Sorry but you need better friends

[@marylut6077]

Underlying issue: Why aren’t people taught to be critical thinkers? Why are they so willing to be duped?

[@gamingintrospection]

I predict our friend Mike Brady will eclipse 1 Million subscribers by March 2025! Every single video has incredible amounts of polish, engagement, professional voice overs, and oodles of evidence/photos/accounts that draw viewers in. Kudos to you and the channel Mike, happy holidays!

[@256byteram]

Brandolini's Law: "The amount of energy needed to refute [misinformation] is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it."

[@JoeyMills-y3v]

Lol that's the whole point. What do you think counter intelligence is & why so much is spent on it? The biggest sources of misinformation are our own governments lol, not even deniable. Imagine believing anything any politician or military operative says, ever 😂

[@JoeyMills-y3v]

Oh & BTW what brandolini said is a maxim or aphorism or old wives tale at best, NOT a law. Claiming it is a law is itself MISINFORMATION. No wonder everyone is so gullible now, nobody can THINK 😂

[@256byteram]

@@JoeyMills-y3v Is Murphy's Law misinformation for the same reason?

[@JoeyMills-y3v]

@@256byteram you don't understand, do you? Words have meanings, who controls those meanings controls you. Bye bye, time waster!

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

@@256byteram No

[@Scout-Fanfiction]

It's a severe disrespect to the lives and memory of the men involved in Olympic's planning, building, and sheer craftsmanship to insinuate such things as petty as insurance fraud.

[@joshuawilke4672]

the other theory. the people who opposed the federal reserve where on that ship. it was sunk to get rid of them.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

So, you believe an invented claim from 1990s social media?

[@StevenLuken]

A story about how the Olympic was found to be a fault in the collision with HMS Hawk would be nice.

[@AxGerm756]

HMS Hawke property of the British government. Government did the investigation. Government concluded: we (the government) did nothing wrong !

[@jeffreyrussell4874]

And didn't T Andrew's go down with the ship? So he would have knowingly gotten on the ship to his death? I highly doubt that.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

and not too mention he wouldn’t know the difference between the Olympic and the ship he built and knew by heart?

[@washingtonradio]

One problem with this 'theory' is Ismay and Andrews were aboard as was their custom when a new ship sailed. They were there for somewhat different purposes in evaluating the new ship's behavior in service. These evaluations would lead to improvements on the next ship.

[@MassimoCalderaro-u8h]

No, it was not deliberately sunk, it was an accident that they hit an iceberg.

[@arthuroldale-ki2ev]

No doubt there will be those, that will be looking for ways to exploit the Titanic story, until the last rivet down there has turned to dust . The very idea that a switch and all that would need to be carried out to do it , undetected and kept quiet by a multitude, until there is not a soul left alive , is OUTRAGEOUS to the very last degree ! Thank you for this most excellent documentary .

[@LinerDesigner]

Sup dudes. Titanic is a ship btw guys. Not a plane

[@Ccyawn123]

?!?

[@johnn8223]

That's what they want you to think.

[@KyleCowden]

@@Ccyawn123 I can't speak for him but I think he means that when the wing box of a plane is damaged it's done. When the keel of a ship is damaged and it doesn't go down, it can be repaired, rebuilt, even replaced and the ship will do fine.

[@arena2menace]

actually it was a plane swapped with a ship because money ooooo

[@LinerDesigner]

@@KyleCowden no I was just joking

[@nanabutner]

Thank you for your calm informative and the always logical rendition of the facts. This approach is what makes your videos so informative as well as entertaining. THANKS AGAIN MIKE