oceansize - getting where water cannot

[@rickypatel3255]

Perfect late night/early morning music.

[@platinumdynamite]

Listening back, yeah, it is quite proggy, it's just an unusual groove!

[@Windavee]

The drums

[@camiidae]

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[@RobotsBuildingRobots]

Considering the song is 5 and a half minutes long that would be very impressive. Obviously the drums aren't entirely random but if you're trying to figure out the time signature structure it's a lot easier to follow the bass.

[@RobotsBuildingRobots]

Various combinations of 9/8, 4/4, 5/4 and a few bars of 3/4. The drums are just random, but listen to the bass and you'll get it.

[@SJA962]

Very odd groove. What signature is?

[@Vhape_carbohydrate]

dude this song is so good that my stomache started killing me for half the song, then a good relaxing warm slow fart came out.... and then i pooped myself without notising, and i didnt do shit about it until the song was done

[@mark_heron7368]

rilliant b

[@onlytwinn]

Maybe I'm hearing what I want to but I think this is a breakup song... I will describe my idea from the perspective of a person who is more hurt from it. Game match set and synchronize Then part it - game match set, were together and synchronized loving people.. and now its over This hand set in turpentine Imitate and angled to Suffocate this indignance Inherited from mouth to mouth, sore, Kept clean and comfortable - turpentine, a new coating, a new behavior. I'll imitate your coping behavior to suffocate my pain. The pain we both inherited from this relationship Consequence... (straight forward) ...like holding a mirror to the action I kill and die All dos and don't equals are opposites I smile and cry - the other person has moved on physically or emotionally or both and I haven't. Even though were still the same person and there is love there. But what they do i will try even if it kills me, like holding a mirror to everything you do. You do something to try and move on, to kill it, and so do i. I kill and die. Everything you do I do for almost the opposite reason. But were still both the same fucking person. I smile and cry. That whole section I think the "I smile" refers to the first person's actions and "I cry" refers to the second person's reaction. Using "I" helps emphasize they're still somewhat in love and the intertwined. Fall backwards in space and time I cowar in corners, minding mine Get where water cannot -first parts straight forward. I still don't have an interpretation of where water cannot go. Maybe its just a phrase for bottling up? Mike typically avoids heart on the sleeve lyrics though... Consequence.... If you could use the space to grow now You've no gleam or shine So worn the rigor of the champion Now you're frail (faded?) With time When giving birth makes you a murderer And your love a crime - if you could use the space to grow into a better person you wouldn't. You've no gleam or shine. You can claim You've moved on with rigor but with time the love thats left is frail and it hurts. When giving birth to new people were murdering what we were and what we had. Restarting this love is a crime. Its not the same anymore. Are we but walking contradictions While ever this ring still binds - pretty strong evidence for me its a breakup/divorce song. Even if we wanted to mend things its too far gone. We both love and hate each other after this and a ring cannot solve for it. Thats my interpretation. I think a lot of mikes personal hardships that would be impossible to determine just from these lyrics are in here. This is mostly me injecting my own ugly breakup into the song

[@PlaysWithChildren]

@glorp roger I don't think I have seen anyone on the internet attempt to decipher this song. These lyrics always confused me but you did a great job interpreting them. I always sort of assumed that the line "getting where water cannot" was a reference to getting high, as in doing drugs, or even just trying to raise awareness to a higher level to get out of the pain of physical reality, like meditation. The way I see it is that when water gets high it turns to vapor and is no longer in a liquid state so is much lighter and less dense. When people try to raise their vibration they are literally trying to lower the density of the soul so they can reach a higher level of consciousness. Using certain non toxic substances can help lower density too. Many people would like to think that Mike wouldn't be referencing drugs and that there is a more profound meaning, but both can be true simultaneously. It works in the context of a heartbreak song and is cloaked in vague imagery so that it is not obvious at all. I don't think Mike and the gang are strangers to recreational drug use. I have wondered if Special K was used at any point during songwriting or for personal therapeutic sessions because of their song Ketamine Van. I could be totally wrong and would love to ask the members of Oceansize if they can shed some light on this song. I know Mark is lurking around in these comments sections, so if you read this Mr. Heron, feel free to contribute to the conversation..

[@platinumdynamite]

Wow, this sounds like really early material. Before they hit the prog.

[@lmann1195]

Yeah, almost the whole song is 9/8, 4/4, 5/4 repeat. With a 3/4 thrown in at the end here and there. Then when he says "Like holding a mirror to the action", it's just a consistent 4/4. Anyone know what this song is about?

[@TheGranderuga]

[@Vhape_carbohydrate]

actually the drums arnt random, in fact i could probably sit down with this for about 4 minutes and get it down