Octavian and Antony: the Monsters - Post-Caesar Civil Wars DOCUMENTARY

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Kings and Generals' historical animated documentary series on the history of Rome continues with an episode of the post-Caesar Civil Wars, as in the aftermath of the battles of Mutina and Forum Gallorum ( • Post-Caesar Civil Wars... ), Octavian, Antony and Lepidus create the second triumvirate and turn into monsters, killing numerous Romans in a bout of proscriptions to enact their will over Rome before they go to war against the Liberators - Brutus and Cassius.
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Script: Peter Voller
Animation: Murat Can Yağbasan
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Sources:
Appian ‘The Civil Wars’ 3.88-98 & 4.1-53
Cassius Dio ‘Roman History’ 46.39-47.19
Plutarch Life of: ‘Cicero’, ‘Antony’ and ‘Brutus’
Paterculus, ‘The Roman History’ 2.64-70
Florus ‘Epitome of Roman History’ 2.6
Gowing, A. M. (1992). Lepidus, the Proscriptions and the “Laudatio Turiae.” Historia: Zeitschrift Für Alte Geschichte, 41(3), 283-296
Ridley, R. T. (2000). The Dictator’s Mistake: Caesar’s Escape from Sulla. Historia: Zeitschrift Für Alte Geschichte, 49(2), 211-229.
Sumi, G. S. (2005). The Performance of Politics in the Triumviral Period: Opposition and Consolidation. In Ceremony and Power: Performing Politics in Rome between Republic and Empire (pp. 186-219). University of Michigan Press.
Hopwood, B. (2015). ‘Hortensia Speaks: An Authentic Voice of resistance’ In K. Welch (Ed.), Appian’s Roman History: Empire and Civil War (pp. 305-322). Classical Press of Wales.
Lange, C. H. (2014). The logic of violence in Roman civil war. Hermathena, 196/197, 69-98.
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[@stopterorisme]

Mantap 👍

[@breylinsantana1648]

Gracia por poner videos en español o subtítulos en español en los videos,yo estoy suscrito a este canal,me encanta su contenido y la manera en la que exponen los acontecimientos

[@ericbrierton2830]

Imagine if all the civil wars in roman did not happen, which would have saved so many roman lives. I wonder if rome would of been around much longer

[@ericbrierton2830]

Thank you for this exact series!! Its the one I asked for!!!

[@oddish2253]

It's sad Lepedus isn't even worth mentioning.

[@jaohonaxa]

As they pointed out earlier in the series it's ironic that the liberators thought killing Caesar would solve all their problems, and here we see Octavian being worse for them than Caesar ever was. Obviously we'll never know for sure if Caesar wouldn't have gone down this road eventually, but all the signs show they would have had an easier time of working with him than Octavian and Antony.

[@MollymaukT]

Caesar always took the more diplomatic routes (out of pragmatism more than morals though) like pardoning the pompeyans after the civil war and other gestures of benevolence. Him getting assassinated really opens a precedent for unrestricted political violence and Octavian and Anthony exploited it to the maximum

[@IvanIvanov-ni4rs]

@@MollymaukT In a civil war one has to do whatever he can to survive. Anthony and Octavian were justified, otherwise today history would speak of their death and defeat. And after Octavian took complete power in the Roman world he ruled peacefully and justly. To be quite honest, Octavian has always been my role model, the First Emperor!

[@flackstar007]

If the assassination of Caesar had been avoided it would of been likely that positions of power would of been given to major players in the liberator plot, this would of allowed them to more effectively balance Caesars power without the need to spill blood or cause a second civil war. In addition to this the lives saved during the resulting civil war and land conquered would of strengthened the Roman Empire greatly, as the lands in question were forerunners in early manufacture techniques and could of produced a Roman Empire that industrialised early enough to fend off the natural disasters that eventually came about by severe weather patterns of 536.

[@timyumichuck9262]

Unlike Antony, Caesar wasn't a traitor. An important character trait for a dictator

[@S0nyToprano]

@@IvanIvanov-ni4rs agreed. I low key love the brutal efficiency and effectiveness of the proscriptions. Was it absolutely immoral and evil by today’s standards? Absolutely. Did it get the job done and lay a foundation for one of the most powerful and famous empires in history? 100%. While the republic still functioned as a facade once Augustus became emperor, the old world had to die for a new, better one to rise. And the proscriptions were a significant step in that direction.

[@lisboah]

This part of Roman history shows just how ironic fate is sometimes. The Senate has no one but themselves to blame for the downfall of the Republic. Their paranoia, jealousy and plotting led to the creation of two Triumvirates and the eventual rise of Octavian, the adopted son of the same Caesar that they feared wanted to become Emperor, as Emperor.

[@lotoreo]

They tried to erase Caesar and instead they cemented the name Caesar in history as THE synonym for "emperor" until today

[@svfin]

And their greed. The greedy aristocrats refused to accept reforms that would have helped the people of rome and reforms that were badly needed for the welfare of the state even at no cost to themselves, like land reform. So the people turned to a strongman like ceasar, who gave them what they wanted and also made important reforms during his short reign as a dictator and he set the precedent for octavian's and anthony's actions and eventually led to the emperors.

[@brainflash1]

That centurion warned them what would happen.

[@ohnoa2]

@@lotoreo i agree, their opposition to the gracchi brothers and sanctioned murder of both cause a spiral where murder of political opponents was sanctioned and lead to a huge group of landless poor that eventually with the marian reforms became more loyal to the generals rather than the state

[@jessefisher1809]

@@svfin Indeed. I can't help but see parallels to todays divided governments.

[@jurtra9090]

"My father died on this floor. Right there. Stabbed 27 times, butchered by men he called his friends. Who will tell me that is not murder? Who will tell my legions, who love Caesar as I do, that that is not murder?! Who will speak against the motion?"

[@jabba6749]

My response: you held proscriptions where you had hundreds of innocent people butchered. So who’s talking murder Octavian??? And Julius Caesar may have been a hero in Rome but in Gaul he had his soldiers slaughter innocent Gaul tribesmen to control the Gauls. So my point remains.

[@S0nyToprano]

@@jabba6749 my friend if that is your view… Like Clodius, I and my gang shall hunt you down all across Rome for the reward as your name is posted. Nowhere will be safe: sewers, ovens, friends, etc. we will find you. No mire shall be enough to mask you as we serve the glory of our republic. Make your choice - do you choose your fate or choose to include others who will also be cut down for harboring you. A new age rises with the son of Caesar. You play with fire for resisting. Leave Rome now while you still can because when those doors close, nowhere will be safe.

[@arbiterelegantiarum]

@@S0nyToprano born at wrong times, perhaps? chapeau bas

[@S0nyToprano]

@@arbiterelegantiarum lol just having a bit of fun with role play. But this is a good example as to why I never joined the military. I know myself and my tendencies towards those that I consider have done wrong.

[@Savantqqqq]

Siap bang jago

[@petervoller3404]

Hey all, I was the writer and historian for this episode, if you've got any questions/feedback, feel free to leave them below and I'll do my best to get around to them!

[@AKAZA-kq8jd]

Cicero said it better "the Ides of March was a fine deed but half done"

[@MalayArcher]

hi im your number one fan

[@JohnnyElRed]

Now I have to wonder: where the men on those lists exclusively Pompeians, or were there also Ceasareans on them?

[@benshefi9558]

Can you please release the bibliography for this video?

[@paulstephensia1412]

Are we going to see the Punic Wars any time soon?

[@princepscivitatis4083]

*"If you want a rainbow, you have to first deal with the rain."* - Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus

[@randomcenturion7264]

And boy oh boy, did he make it rain.

[@zakir2815]

Then you get the bow?

[@EmptyMan000]

He made it rain a sea of blood.

[@enderreaper1482]

You mean Imperator Caesar Augustus

[@makinapacal]

Thank you for not sugar coating these events. It is often forgotten that the death of the Roman Republic and the birth of the Roman Empire was accompanied by reigns of terror and blood bathes, complete with death squads, a pattern that was to be repeated later in the history of the Empire and that Augustus, probably the greatest of the Emperors started out has a terrorist Dictator.

[@charlescook5542]

It is well understood that Augustus was a dictator. In some ways the terror of dictators is preferable to the anarchy of the civil wars.

[@igregmart]

@@charlescook5542 The number of deaths and suffering is far less than is a civil war.

[@adamseidel9780]

And honestly even these acts were relatively mild and bloodless compared to nearly every political transition in the previous 60 years.

[@stephenjenkins7971]

@@igregmart More to the point; the absurd amount of civil wars prior to the Empire was practically nil until Sulla. After him? They become a staple of Roman Imperial politics. Republics, when functioning, are among the most stable institutions it seems.

[@frankenstein6677]

Arguable, to be sure. Sulla showed the Roman people that legions could be used to march on the city, and so everyone was on edge when Julius Caesar achieved even more power than what Sulla had at the time. Ultimately though, what caused the instability in the Republic that allowed it's downfall, were the shortcomings specific to the system. Especially the corruption of the government.

[@AKAZA-kq8jd]

In definition both Mark Antony and Octavian are warlords that being said if look beyond the 2nd triumvirate all the way to Actium in 31BC You'll find who worthy of the long term and who's worthy for the short term.

[@nnnn65490]

You’re just upset Marcus Agrippa was a better general than you

[@AKAZA-kq8jd]

@@nnnn65490 🤣🤣🤣 not even a little Love that man.

[@jabba6749]

Octavian and Antony were both pure evil. Only Julius Caesar was redeemable in some way.

[@balabanasireti]

@@jabba6749 Ceasar probably would've become as bad as them if he wouldn't have died. Just look at his last year, he became more and more arrogant.

[@deepdungeon8465]

@@skyhappy Octavian learned it the hard way after his father died by the murdering backstabbers.

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

The reason why Cicero offered his neck is because it was the tradition for a beaten gladiator to do so. Cicero apparently admired this gesture. You might also say that it was his last symbolic gesture considering the murderous game which Roman politics had become.

[@StereotypicallyIrish]

Cicero lived the Good Life.

[@HungryLoki]

He was a great man, even giving peaches to his murderer.

[@mohdshahnawaz1051]

He said" Sir what you are doing is not good, but kill me good"

[@rueisblue]

Bad politics, good man

[@declanjones8888]

Not gonna lie, Cicero is kinda based.

[@ScorpoYT]

the events of this video made game of thrones look like a kids tv-show

[@simonw1252]

Not really mate.... Dragons? Giants? vs these squabbling sneaky Psychopaths? Erm....meh

[@guardiadecivil6777]

@@simonw1252 at least these men actually formulated sound and reasonable tactics in the field of battle

[@apexnext]

Not to mention they actually existed. That's the fascinating part and why it's more interesting than game of thrones. 😁👍 Or at least more interesting than how GoT ended. 😂

[@alfalafelstine1536]

GoT has more sex, so no.

[@florinivan6907]

@@alfalafelstine1536 You do realise the roman elite had sex as well?Real sex not simulated like in the show.

[@saedmohamud6760]

It's amazing how his slaves did everything to protect Cicero while his country men betrayed him. He must have treated his slaves good for them to hide him and protect him. Anyway amazing piece history I enjoyed listening to Saturday afternoon.

[@blenderbanana]

By the era of Cicero there had been laws passed to moderate the more grotesque Master-Slave relationships: and formalize manumition. This all comes about after the two slave Rebellions in Sicily, and the Spartacus Rebellion in Italy.

[@rajasekharathuluru6561]

He deserved it

[@korosuke1788]

@@blenderbanana Yeah, this. Slavery in the Americas was very, very different from classical slavery. Most "civilized" countries stopped behaving like barbarians rather recently.

[@MCAPrince]

​@@korosuke1788Not all slavery was a nice as this though. Slavery in mines was considerably worse, and sexual slavery also incredibly common.

[@emperornapoleon6204]

This whole series is exceptional! I look forward to the next episode!

[@MohamedAli-et8pz]

Great that Ur loving it emperor

[@randomuser6175]

That speech of Paterculus... Damn. Even I got emotional. Great job Kings and Generals. I will catch you on the next one.

[@alduinfeetpic9250]

Kinda strikes me as odd, though. It insists that Cicero's name wasn't sullied in the slightest by being murdered, when.. well, when the triumvirate's goal wasn't to sully his name, in the first place. It was to get rid of a dangerous political enemy. And that they did. Which makes Paterculus seem like a coping fanboy. If he's saying "You didn't kill Cicero in a way that mattered.", I believe the triumvirate would answer "Maybe not in a way that mattered to YOU."

[@randomuser6175]

@@alduinfeetpic9250 name isn't sullied bit is about Cicero's name being on the proscriptions list. If you're on that list, it means you are an enemy of the state. He's basically saying that Cicero was never an enemy of the state. On the contrary he was the last true defender of the republic.

[@alduinfeetpic9250]

​@@randomuser6175 I see. I hadn't actually made that connection. But... still, I kinda think that's missing the point, no? "Sullying his name" was the tool they used. The goal was still to murder him for being a potential pain in the ass. Which they achieved. They even got to mutilate the corpse for revenge. People thinking worse of him would be like... a nice bonus, I'm guessing.

[@randomuser6175]

@@alduinfeetpic9250 I don't follow sorry. What are you arguing about exactly? Speech of Paterculus doesn't make sense to you? I really don't get your point

[@alduinfeetpic9250]

@@randomuser6175 Point: Paterculus speech is kind of nonsensical and silly Reason: He argues that the triumvirate didn't succeed in sullying Cicero's name. I argue, sullying the name wasn't the end goal, but murdering Cicero. His name being unsullied, they probably don't care about. They got their dictatorial control over Rome, murdered who knows how many, and got away with it. Conclusion: We can't see this as a "moral victory" for Cicero and the Republic. The speech isn't this big comeback it's played up as. I think that would be denying reality. It's the triumvirate's full victory.

[@infantilepillock1687]

That eulogy on Cicero is beautiful.

[@nothisispatrick4644]

Poor Lepidus not even included in the Videos Title, well he atleast showed up in the thumbnail!

[@weirdofromhalo]

Because K&G don't consider him a monster, even though he was just as much part of making the proscription lists.

[@muhammadeisa1459]

@@weirdofromhalo no it's because he isn't as well known or as relevant as Antony and Octavian

[@thejonrezcontent5213]

Ah Lepidus, the Crassus of Second Triumvirate.

[@demonblood8841]

Sulla = Proscriptions and not murdered. Octavian = Proscriptions and not murdered. Caesar = no Proscriptions and was murdered. Yes there is more it but kinda funny as this is not what one would expect

[@ElBandito]

Putin = Proscriptions and not murdered. :p

[@charlescook5542]

Sulla died shortly after stepping down, not sure if it was natural causes or something else.

[@neinty-neinmonika2861]

Sulla died shortly after stepping down, Octavian took steps to prevent the Senate from being too unhappy, and make sure thar if that fails, the Praetorian guards has his back(while also making sure the Praetorian guards won't get too powerful through checks and balances that Tiberius immediately ignored), while Caesar pretty much blundered by appearing too kinglike in his last years in power. Caesar focused a lot on being popular with the Plebians,but made the Aristocrats and Senators angry

[@timyumichuck9262]

Nothing is more dangerous than a man of the people. Why do you think Hitler was made to be the most villainous man in world history despite not even coming close to that title?

[@rueisblue]

Yeaaaa, Julius Caesar's death shows you where mercy got you in ancient rome. The prescriptions were horrible but I get the rationale behind them

[@canadian__ninja]

It's always a good day when Kings and Generals uploads, doubly so when it's a Roman era episode.

[@dawnatkinson7704]

I cannot help but have some admiration for Octavian - he was an intelligent and cunning leader skilled in warcraft.

[@matthewmatt5285]

Yeah,..Cicero was trying to use him,.and got what was COMING~

[@kristianmarcussen3045]

If you haven't watched the 2 season TV-series Rome (2005), I fully recommend it. It features Julius Caesar in season 1 & Octavian and co. in season 2. It's freakin' awesome if you're interested in the Roman era!

[@glumphyStoned]

I am watching these days for the first time. Great series. Mark anthony is the most badass of them, tho not the most clever.

[@MrRjh63]

1st season is solid but sadly you can tell without even looking into it that s2 was rushed and it hurt it. Still worth watching tho.

[@kristianmarcussen3045]

@@MrRjh63 Yes they were running out of money and had to make season 2, 10 episodes when more was originally planned. Apparently each episode was so expensive to make because of all the sets, costumes & all the good stuff that made the series look and feel good. And it just wasn't popular enough to reimburse the investments into each episode. As a result season 2 feels rushed. Which is a shame because it's a really good show.

[@mohdshahnawaz1051]

if you are talking abotu HBO it is worst series I have every seen too many sex scecne than war scenes

[@RRR-ox9ud]

Nice series. The story of the 2 soldiers/brothers made it for me.

[@ulfeliasson5413]

Ah, some Roman action again. Thank you. A highlight of my day for sure.

[@kesorangutan6170]

I heard about proscriptions before but damn... I imagined them less chaotic for some reason. This is basically the "purge" movie series.

[@EmptyMan000]

You projected your own sense of scruples on them. Modern assurances of "Oh they weren't THAT bad, chill out". No they were horrific and should be explained in full hellish detail.

[@patriksagi5571]

Well... This was darker than expected.

[@SenujaR]

Thank you guys, I was waiting this series since the last one you guys uploaded. I hope you’ll continue this series and satisfy all Rome fans.

[@riccardocirielli]

Ceasar's mercy was his weakness and led to his murder, Augustus was not going to repeat the same mistake. Glory to the Empire!

[@vitorpereira9515]

I would rather betray the world, than let the world betray me. - Cao Cao

[@wtgardner6914]

As a huge fan of history, I have been looking forward to each episode. So many documentaries just give main points without going into detail. The single greatest thing about K&Gs is that they are all about the details. I absolutely love your episodes. This one and War in the Pacific just show how amazingly detailed you are in covering the events. Huge thanks for going the extra mile and showing history in its most true fashion.

[@SousouCell]

Cicero : get the f*** outta here you too young ...... Octavian : fine i'm old enough to be emperor ......

[@rabcoyle3408]

Amazing. Talk about history repeating itself in such a short time. It’s as though Cesar himself had borrowed Octavians body and try to clear unfinished business. Can’t wait for the second part. 👍

[@mynamejeb8743]

Octavian probably try to make itbseem to the public that he is Caesar's vengeance

[@lyonvensa]

That is quite a scary thought. Caesar realizes mercy and political alliances that he thought was perfect ends up causing his death, and now he just decided to kill everything that got in his way.

[@yoyoyickityyo]

Absolutely exceptional work! The dialogue, the artwork, the effort is truly appreciated!

[@paitando9666]

My favorite channel … by far! So informative yet entertaining and full of suspense! The visuals are amazing! Keep it up! Cannot sing your praises enough! 🥇🏆

[@theironknight597]

Historia Civillis really made me see Augustus in a new light. The man was truly brutal but history is written by the victors and he is remembered for the good not the terrible.

[@geordiejones5618]

He was the natural result of 100 years of increasing political fuckery. There wasn' anything that he did that Marius, Sulla, Cina, Pompey and Caesar hadn't done before, but he did ALL of it in fairly exacting precision and all at once. He gambled eveything on political hegemony and was on the brink of losing it all a couple of times, but his inner circle was better than the rest of the field, and then he forged and died in his own version of reality.

[@concept5631]

As Caesar was to Gaul. Like uncle like son.

[@theironknight597]

@@concept5631 Very true never it really considered it that way

[@concept5631]

@@theironknight597 Caesar must've been a _really_ good parental figure for Augustus to do what he did and to be so successful.

[@marlonrodney2457]

Historia Civillis has an extreme anti-Octavian bias.

[@sonicman52]

I never realized until this video, the fact Cicero’s *slaves* lied about his whereabouts to try and help protect him means, despite whatever negative traits he had, he musta been pretty chill/cool in his personal life

[@adolphbismark4331]

Great work Kings and Generals. Absolutely stupendous work on a matter not well known to history and many people. Very detailed and great graphics as always. I learnt a lot personally.

[@af_baltimore8315]

Caesar is awesome. Octavian, Antony, and Lepidus are examples of why power should only be reserved for the best of us

[@af_baltimore8315]

@@Gustav_Kuriga if it's just that, I understand. But they turned it into a murder spree to kill not just their enemies but random people for money

[@af_baltimore8315]

@@Imperator-vo4to yes, but stop at them. Not these innocents.

[@EmptyMan000]

@@af_baltimore8315 That's the problem, you think it's up to you that the killing can stop. Once started, it tends to spin out of control, especially when you work with assholes like Antony who want to keep Killing.

[@NSO1505]

One of your finest episodes, from video quality and textures, to narration. We’ll done!

[@Viewer2812]

I was looking for this video a few days ago. I'm glad that it's finally finished.

[@charlotteleates9375]

The art employed to tell this story!! Stunning!! 😱

[@iamseamonkey6688]

thank you for actually putting the sources for this video. please do this for all videos in future because it makes you much more credible historians

[@mirceaalex8313]

I've been waiting for this one for a long time now. Good job finishing the series

[@18Krieger]

One of my favourite periods in Roman History. I hope we will one day see another series like HBO`s Rome being about that time period.

[@aquariumaddict]

Barbarians is a great series on Netflix.

[@18Krieger]

@@aquariumaddict Yeah it is but its not the time of the second triumvirat.

[@szellemikutmergezes9810]

@@18Krieger and sadly its more about barbarians than romans

[@18Krieger]

@@szellemikutmergezes9810 I think thats good, because we have a lack of movies/series with "babarian" viewpoints. But a bit more of a roman perspective could have been interesting. Hopefully we get that with the brother of Arminius.

[@szellemikutmergezes9810]

@@18Krieger I know but there is so much oppurtunities in an actual roman series, the history of rome, the plots, treatchery, murder and everything it holds are far more interesting than any fiction there is.

[@mikehardgraves7887]

Thanks for bringing one of the most fascinating times in history to life.

[@samuelfreiha]

I always look forward to ur documentary series. Post caesar civil wars, alexander the great, and the pacific wars are in my opinion, the current best on your channel for 2022.

[@RedMarvelX]

Thank you for covering this. So many look at and discuss the Roman Empire 'glory days' and ignore the amount of unjust blood that was shed.

[@dr.zoidberg197]

I love the mosaic artwork in these Roman videos, can't wait for the next one!

[@gregorylittle1461]

Never seen.such an in-depth treatment of the proscriptions. Great work!!

[@EmptyMan000]

Indeed, so much treachery and death and yet modern assholes still sing praises of Rome as being this great amazing Empire that was a boon for the world without flaws. It's disgusting.

[@forzastella1]

Fantastic videos on Caesar and his successors! I look forward to more videos on Caesar ❤️

[@darthvenator2487]

This is one of my favorite series.

[@Deaman1331]

Couldn't hit play and like fast enough. Love the work you do here! Cheers

[@roboldx9171]

Been waiting a long time for this one. Thanks guys.

[@damascus21]

Oh no! Kings and Generals' anime adaptation is getting ahead of Historia Civilis' manga!!

[@mohammedmaster672]

Haha

[@nischalr577]

Was waiting for this video for a long time after the Battle of Mutina video!

[@gabe1ist]

the production quality of this channel is bonkers. Not to mention, the narrator is really coming into his own

[@notthefbi7932]

Loving your detailed maps in this video 👍

[@orktv4673]

Good grief, I never knew the second triumvirate was this horrible. Thanks for the videos.

[@illerac84]

You got to break a few eggs, am I right?

[@EmptyMan000]

@@illerac84 Eggs are one thing, turning your own city against itself and having its people basically slaughter each other to root out hit list targets is another. This was downright diabolical. Evil Shit.

[@anton3306]

Greatness as always!!!! Thanks, Kings and Gens!!!!

[@-RONNIE]

I knew most of this but a couple things I just learned in this video & thanks for sharing it was us.

[@12coudak000]

- Practice, the master of all things. - We write our names in the sand: and then the waves roll in and wash them away. - Nothing common can seem worthy of you. - Augustus

[@paoloquisperosas5635]

CUANTOS DE TALLES ,SIEMPRE SE PUEDE APRENDER MAS DE ESTA PARTE DE LA HISTORIA DE ROMA. GRACIAS!

[@valentinbrescan288]

Paterculus' eulogy to Cicero = a fine piece of work, very foresightful

[@SuperUniverse]

I have waited for this Octavian . Anthony video :) Thanks . Hopefully we get to see a video on Cleopatra too :)

[@samirkarki192]

Had been waiting for this for quite some time.

[@foswa6335]

Finally ! Thanks for the upload

[@ronb7189]

I'm very interested to hear how the Pompeian faction managed to convinced the Parthians to help their cost in the next video.

[@richardfernandovilchezguzm9167]

muy buen documental, espero que sigan sacando mas videos con audio

[@francac2918]

Amazing work, this must be one of your best

[@dilsonfonseca9303]

Congratulations on this marvelous work. The text and images are incredible, and the narrator is simply the cherry on the top

[@hassaanalisiddiqui3827]

I'm looking forward towards every series

[@aleksapetrovic6519]

Woe unto Rufius Tranquilus, then. -Mark Antony, 43 BC

[@donrog5035]

I feel bad for the man, he was just the father of Jocasta (andhe had money) and Atia despised Jocasta for some reasons. If Octavia wasn't friend with Jocasta, Rufius Tranquilus would have been probably safe.

[@aleksapetrovic6519]

@@donrog5035 I don't the exact phrase in English, but there is a saying "Ask me anything except how I got my first million". No one ever got rich trough honest work, especially in the dark times like late Republic.

[@EmptyMan000]

@@aleksapetrovic6519 And some people wonder why many hate the rich. Blaming it on base jealousy often. No, it's that many who get rich often performed heinous junk to get their riches.

[@alvaro209209]

Finally I been waiting for this episode

[@eduardooberdan6206]

This video was just amazing.

[@jamesdean433]

It’s amazing Octavian was in his early twenties years when he marched on Rome

[@collintrytsman3353]

look forward to next

[@aasemahsan]

Pansa & Hirtius (Consul for 43 BC) Decimus Dio, Paterculas, Plutarch, Appian (historians) Cicero & Salvius Pedius (consul when the 2nd triumvirate marched into Rome) 14:23 Paterculas on Cicero 16:04 Appian's writings on the terror inflicted on Rome

[@mastercoder1935]

I think Octavian was a natural successor to Caesar. Even though I want to root for a democracy, there were some fundamental flaws in the Roman Republic which were the very reason for its demise.

[@mastercoder1935]

@@georgerafa5041 read history of anywhere in the world. Monarchy is worse. Any form of government where small number of elite people decide what happens with everyone while majority of people don't get a vote is inherently unfair.

[@ohnoa2]

rome wasnt a democracy, it was more of an ogliarchy

[@janprostejovsky5050]

@@mastercoder1935Any form of government is a small number of elite people to decide what happens... absolutism is polarised. You either have a golden age under a competent rule or you are in tyranny ruled by psycho fearing for your life. But for long-term planning and policy-making, it is much easier if there is a single person/alliance able to realize his plans without forever lasting debates and need to please everyone in the process. Meaning, that theoretically, if the ruler is competent, the only problems of absolutism are successions and failsafes (in case caesar/emperor/king goes nuts). Democracy on the other hand starts simply as mob rule that later always transforms into an oligarchy, as happened in most of Greece/Rome and is now happening worldwide, so... Another downside to democracy is that people in positions of power are basically "just there because popular" without any competence or skill - with absolutism, you have a class/group of people educated/trained from a young age to rule, which of course then makes them more competent (on average). Absolutism is the simplest and oldest system ever made, yet most effective if power is in the right hands. Could be (and probably will be) our final system, but instead of one of our own we will be ruled by an almighty AI god.

[@LewisTaylor4]

@@ohnoa2it was a hybrid- as Polybius described. A perfect constitution.

[@juanguzman3340]

This one was quite satisfying. Good job

[@itsmeme8544]

I found this channel firstly from Caesar Galic wars video and I started watching. Ancient Rome was always an impressive history for me and even the modern history - like WW2 is nothing closer to Rome. Ww2 mostly depends on power and force but in ancient Rome...o boy it's so interesting, so complex, everything so elevated.....the powerful people Caesar, the 2 triumvirates all this looks like not from the past but rather from the future.

[@animicknath290]

Best video of kings and generals.It's just like the movies.I'm so thrilled 👍👍👍

[@amin2858]

I have been waiting for this for ever and its finally out :D

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

[@stacey_1111rh]

What a dark and dysfunctional incident in history. Great content!

[@charleseddem7042]

Amazing and inciteful...thankyou ❤

[@McJibbin]

Love the videos! Keep up the great work!

[@christianbenalcazar7606]

Excelente como siempre, mis felicitaciones

[@chickenassasintk]

My like and comment. Thank you, I wish this had been A LOT longer than it was.

[@TomOostenrijk]

Kings and Generals is still really improving. I'm amazed by the quality/quantity ratio of the content

[@flacons2110]

ive been so excited for this

[@aaronTGP_3756]

It's insane how ruthless the triumvirs were. And how Octavian was basically Rome's Stalin before he gradually mellowed out by the first century AD.

[@navdeepgusain3059]

I'm mighty impressed with Octavian. Few years ago, he was nothing but a soldier training for the battle. But he consolidated himself to be the most powerful person in Rome.

[@ap9812]

Nothing impressive, he owes all he achieved to ceaser name, without the name Antonius would have crushed him earlier

[@Jonathan_D12]

@@ap9812 😂😂

[@ap9812]

@@Jonathan_D12 yes, the ceaser name gave him credibility among the citizen and most importantly the Senate making it impossible for the loyal ceaser soldiers to defect from him and Antonius miscalculations with too much presentation of Cleopatra played to his advantage, if he was not ceaser heir, Antonius would have threw him into the Tiber river

[@KingNoTail]

​@@ap9812Nah, it's not as simple as that. Never has been.

[@emperorofpluto]

Excellent analysis. The proscriptions of Octavian and, later, the second so-called "triumvirate" - in Latin they were called _tre(s) viri res publica constituenda_ - must have been a terrifying case of history repeating: Sulla, and after him Marius during his catastrophic final (seventh) consulship had both used proscriptions both as a way of eliminating enemies and raising money.

[@jacobwalsh1888]

Octavian was quite simply the greatest statesman ever produced by the human race.

[@rogersledz6793]

Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

[@matthewmatt5285]

lol,.ScamDemic,.What a Fool

[@gamehacker2801]

What. Today i just binge watched rome series and you launch the video. Good day 😀👍😊

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

"Sic vis pacem parrebellum.." KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!

[@mascadadelpantion8018]

Stuff like this is why I'm subscribed

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you ,K&G . 🐺

[@LucasOliveira-iw4no]

This is the best video on KZbin 🙌🏼💪🏼

[@solomondsilva2686]

Wow so amazing was that purge I loved this video words were so perfect

[@rickh9127]

Wow brutal!! Great recap

[@menes7252]

As always well done.

[@xmanreturn]

Waiting for the next episode!!!

[@JC-mx9su]

The Battle of Philippi is coming up and I am very excited to see this battle. Whether land or sea. And I want to know more about the other Caesar's assassins whether in Philippi or any other battles unlike Brutus and Cassius on how they died.