Octopus [Darknet Vendor] Responds to Mental Outlaw

This video serves as a direct response from Octopus, a darknet vendor, to a popular KZbinr, Mental Outlaw, who discussed the use of drones for drug deliveries on the darknet.
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Octopus felt misrepresented in Mental Outlaw's video and has chosen our platform to set the record straight. We delve into Octopus's explanation about their drone delivery system, addressing each point made by Mental Outlaw with factual rebuttals that challenge the assumptions and speculations previously presented.
This unique insight into the operations on the darknet clarifies several misconceptions about drone usage, security measures, and the technical sophistication behind these anonymous deliveries. Octopus's response aims to enlighten viewers about the realities of darknet operations, far removed from the usual speculative narratives.
Join the conversation in the comments section below and let us know your thoughts on this intriguing subject. Don't forget to hit the like button and subscribe for more content that brings clarity to complex topics right from the source.
Thanks for tuning in, and I look forward to your thoughts and reactions. See you in the next video!
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00:00 Intro
03:20 The message
03:36 Message intro
03:52 Point 1: Advanced Drone Controls
04:25 Point 2: Compartmentalization in Operations
04:54 Point 3: Assumptions on Linguistic Analysis
05:20 Point 4: Logistical Complexity
05:43 Point 5: Drone Legality and Origin
06:07 Point 6: Multi-Faceted Criminal Operations
06:32 Point 7: Customer Service and Delivery Efficiency
06:55 Point 8: Drone Security and Detection
07:17 Point 9: Unsubstantiated Claims on Law Enforcement Risks
07:44 Point 10: International Operation Scale
08:01 Point 11: Misconception of Legal Compliance
08:21 Point 12: Drone Customization
08:43 Point 13: Detailed Security Strategies
09:04 Point 14: Superiority of Drone Delivery
09:51 PS
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[@bunsen5355]

you are like a village elder of the dark web

[@DoingFedTime]

Hahhaha, if you mean I'm old I agree completely! lol Thank you!

[@headlights-go-up]

we go to sam when we need our pgp keys to be blessed

[@xoxoxo-42]

xoxoxo

[@distortions]

haha

[@overamped23042]

You should listen to Darknet Diaries episode 132 to hear his story. He had bulletproof opsec! But was betrayed by his cousin.

[@FVCK-]

Octopus getting a sales pitch in at the end is great haha

[@DoingFedTime]

It killed me not to laugh while reading it.

[@FVCK-]

@@DoingFedTime A savvy businessman never wastes an opportunity. :)

[@3bdo3id]

@@DoingFedTime I think you wouldn't read it but it is because you said I will read it letter by letter

[@ImDavid711]

Thank you for sharing. This is a great reminder to view everything with a critical eye. I watched Mental Outlaw's video, and didn't even think twice. It's so easy to think "lul drones are so dumb, you'll get caught", but vendors' would not willingly assume that much risk - so they must have ways around the obvious dangers.

[@etziowingeler3173]

true, same

[@nicksjacku9750]

You actually will, MO is right.

[@443DM]

I'm just commenting because I like being on lists

[@migueld2456]

Maybe you're Octopus

[@Deasy782]

I'm a certified Drone operator, am very much into long distance FPV, and i'm an electrical engineer with my degree concentration in RF. I'm very curious about this encrypted long range drone technology they're using. I'm also very interested in their battery technology lmao. I'm also calling BS. I didn't even see Outlaw's video, but had to go and watch it once i saw the first response paragraph. I don't know shit about hacking or darkweb culture. I am however, familiar with the fact that most illegal vendors are liars and will say anything to push their product or website.

[@DoingFedTime]

Thanks for sharing your expertise on drones and electrical engineering. However, your sweeping statement about illegal vendors lacks the depth your technical background suggests. In my experience, these vendors often display more integrity than many mainstream providers like ISPs or Amazon, who are under far less scrutiny. You mentioned your qualifications but didn’t provide any technical analysis to back up your skepticism about encrypted drone tech or battery innovations, which I would love to hear. A thorough critique should dive into specifics of why you call "bs", like encryption protocols or battery efficiency, rather than just general doubts after all anyone could comment and just say "no", or "bs".

[@joshuablanchette878]

Mental Outlaw is awesome and I love how you made this video to offer the verbatim response by Octopus

[@DoingFedTime]

As I said, I am a subscriber and a fan. Thank you!

[@dvorakgigachad1444]

pretty sure he ran that through a language model so his writing style cannot be traced back lmao

[@TheSkyIsFalling93]

Great vid as per usual, if I were octopus I might’ve gone into less detail about the whole thing and just summarized it as mental outlaw doesn’t have the full story and leave it at that.

[@DoingFedTime]

That's an interesting point of view. I have to accept responsibility for that though. When we had our first contact, the initial response was short, like a few sentences. I said that I couldn't do a youtube video with a simple statement like that.

[@TheSkyIsFalling93]

@@DoingFedTime - Ah ok, ya it’s not like he said anything that would screw himself over in the long run… that being said, I don’t necessarily like the idea of drone delivery when it comes to darknet products. It’s not something I know too much about (except for this and mental outlaw’s video) but it sounds kind of sketchy to me. I’m really not qualified to speak on it ultimately haha, just my two cents.

[@Krems_]

@@TheSkyIsFalling93 yeah in my opinion even though they can have it hacked so it’s untraceable to the government, they can still theoretically keep those records themselves which either they can use to black mail the user base or will get confiscated by law enforcement in the event of a seizure. It’s like with any other darknet market where you just have to trust that they’re not doing shady stuff

[@nikos4677]

To me it seemed more like he was saying the same thing. And his sentences were empty. Most of the sentenced don't have a meaning. That's my opinion.

[@noizW]

What if someone just throws an Airtag into the drone after goods were delivered? And Octopus: if you're operating in Europe, i call BS on you, here is everything so hard monitored - i couldn't even launch a drone. And what they say about their technology is also BS: i worked at the tower of an airport - we can detect EVERYTHING, even 1 cm small particles if wanted. For advanced control over distances you need s signal - and if you want, you can triangulate it, no radar or physical entity needed. Drug drone delivery never works. I will buy something there and report if a drone showed up in Vienna.

[@_BLANK_BLANK]

I want to see how this goes 😂

[@migueld2456]

I see your point, but drones can operate more or less autonomously by preprogramming a route in them that they follow via gps so you can avoid the radio signal triangulation problem. Then they would have to use passive radar to get the full path of the drone, but you can get on a car, leave the drone half a mile away from target, leave there, go away and have it programmed to start half an hour later after you left, then make it do some random walks here and there in the air to randomize the path too. Still.... Sounds a bit far fetched and too cumbersome, but I am not familiar with "darknet operations".

[@noizW]

@@migueld2456 Not possible, you can't pro-program a drone. And they said they have a connection to the drone - I just say apple AirTag. What if I put one on the drones, I guess they are not cheap? so no passive radar required ;)

[@noizW]

@@migueld2456 As I said, I'll try this service and let me fuck in a gangbang gay porn if a drone comes to my window. I swear! They'll send a drone from Paris to Vienna, sure. And if they operate just in a little area, they can't be that big. BUT: I'm sure they read this here. It would be the coolest thing ever if this would work, but I'm not sure. I textet somewhere else that I worked in an airport tower, and you would be surprised what we could do with the radar-array from the USA.... you can use it like LIDAR if you want... old technology, but there are reasons why passive Radar is used. Enough said.

[@migueld2456]

​@@noizWwell the airtag thing should be concerning to them... I agree with you this is cumbersome and expensive for them 😅 maybe he gets busted

[@user-bf5ud1cv7p]

If they are such smart bigshots then why did they release all this information about their operation just because a KZbinr had an opinion about them?

[@ultravioletiris6241]

😂

[@mikeb1085]

speculation is fun, what outlaw did was nothing. related: for all we know, everything the octopus saying could also be interpreted as speculative (lying) that s* about saying they have worldwide operations, for all we know, is to just throw us that theyre actually only based in france and also how the heck does someone get "an unwitting" "person/company" to do drone deliveries. anybody have any thoughts??? and why would they disclose theyre a huge operation?? doesnt that paint a bigger target on your back? again, unless youre trying to throw ppl/law enf. off... and seriously what if they got spy satellites, do a control purchase, and can just track the drone through camera from the satellites, like yeah right..untrackable also "encrypted rf frequencies... yeah right..." idk abt france but here in US we have fcc that can pinpoint exactly where a jammer or a foreign interfering frequency is originating from, not to mention the HAARP antennas can prob do the same thing. so again, pinpointing the originating signal is probably ez pz if they *really* wanted to and "undetected drone prison deliveries". seriously? there was like last month, a drone builder got arrested for supplying such drones this purpose. so they can obviously get the ppl that make this drones, so id assume these octapi arent safe idk, at the end of the day its just fun to speculate...

[@noizW]

You don't need satellites, radar, you just need to triangulate the signal. Or throw an Airtag into the drone.

[@Marinobay]

There is no malice behind Mental Outlaw’s videos. Things are so complex these days. There is so much even professionals overlook since everything is rapidly changing by the day. Coming from bulletin boards and IRC in the 1990s, I just enjoy listening to progression.

[@Error8x8]

There was no knowledge as well. MO doesn't know shit about running an illegal business or drone technology. All his knowledge of illegal activity comes from movies and TV. He just sounds smart to idiots and newbies

[@Br1cht]

So he got his pride hurt and just had to take the risk of exposure just to show his syntax, details about his op and how full of an unfulfilled need for validation he is? Seems like such an own goal to me, this feels like a Nerd that for once would like to be “cool”, that usually precede hard time irl since this isn’t some Hollywood movie.

[@nycrsny3406]

Paragraphs felt a bit GPT-ish to me, like it was used and then some edits made. Kudos for providing a platform for Octopus to respond (or basically incorporate his MO rebuttal in an advertisement for his business 😂 if we're being honest). Surpised MO didn't reach out to Octo before making that video though, seems it should be a no-brainer for something like that. 1. Yes my perspective has changed cause for me this means there wasn't rigorous/thorough research on MO's part. 2. Would be out of my depth tryna answer that tbh. 3. Probably would've drafted a much shorter response (cause tbh getting through this long ass powerpoint-type text was rough even though you were narrating it), at most half the size and make it read less like a product description pamphlet at a drone expo, but he knows more about business than me so ...🤷‍♂ But dude definitely gets points for that sales pitch lmao

[@0xC47P1C3]

I mean, why not use AI to write up something for you. It’s good obfuscation against linguistic patterns.

[@stephentyler8712]

@@0xC47P1C3 this

[@noizW]

Do you think they all have "their" numbers? Or should he made an request how they operate in detail (which doesn't raise questions at all)? I learned something: don't fuck with the guys in the DN, i had one spying on me, having infiltrated every device for over a year (maybe he/they are still watching, recording, i don't care anymore ), they/he were so good even police thought i was crazy. They watched and controlled my whole life. It was a f...Horror!!! They even sent messages from my phone (they listened what i said and responded with messages which seemed that i have sent myself), they destroyed all my friendships, isolated me, watched entry step i did. They had full control over my systems. Does anyone know how this is possible? Had to buy everything new and i'm still frightened to use a wifi led lamp, or whatever isn't secured. I was in "blocked" mode for nearly a year, i hope it doesn't start again.

[@DoubleBluffing]

Very interesting and exciting drone technology will bring. I believe the Ukraine vs Russia war has helped show the world the entry to modern day use of drones

[@rusi6219]

A lot of this "new" military & logistical tech actually originates with ISIS but your government will never admit that:)

[@WiseWeeabo]

how large distribution areas can you really cover with drones tho

[@prestheticmullet]

Could be real, this could also all be fantasy day dream make beleive misdirection. idk if he would really post all the details

[@anwiseru9064]

what about the FCC using triangulation to track down the remote control source signal? or even the drone sending radio back, assuming it does so?

[@DoingFedTime]

These are great points I would also add that dji manufacturers the vast majority of drones around 70% I believe but don't quote me on that. They have a special frequency that allows a device that they have that they issued to law enforcement to immediately intercept and take over the drone. If the drone is not in fact a dji drone then they would have to actually either confuse the drone by issuing amplified signals that override the signals coming from the individual piloting it or they would have to hack into the drone remotely which is going to be considerably more difficult than the former.

[@jionko9525]

I can for sure say that Octopus's response serves as a great ad for his market

[@Parafovea]

Great content as always, watched you originally on darknet diaries and it was one of the best episodes imo

[@pinkerdroit]

Agreed! 💛

[@user-bn6iv3iz8j]

Hell yeah hahahahahah i fucking love the Internet

[@andyturbo]

Absolutely LOVE your uploads man. Cheers for another great piece of content!

[@DoingFedTime]

Thank you, and thank you for taking the time to comment too!

[@trapOrdoom]

Shadow banned? I haven’t seen you in forever and been trying to remember your name. Setting RSS feed up soon.

[@teinnorHD]

Hello, why do you enable automatic translation on your videos titles ? I end up having a bad translation of the title in my native language

[@DoingFedTime]

I don't, I have 16 different languages that I translate subtitles into. I also manually translate titles and the description into 16 different languages. What language was it?

[@teinnorHD]

@@DoingFedTime French. Title is : « "Octopus [Darknet Vendor] répond au hors-la-loi mental » (with the second double quote being in the title). Correct translation would be : « Octopus [vendeur du Dark Net] répond à Mental Outlaw » (I would translate "vendor" in French, and keep "Mental Outlaw" in English as it is an username)

[@metalbrute4795]

Love the video, you are doing great! keep em coming! Also, Bro why do you phase in and out of existence at 1:05?

[@DoingFedTime]

Hahhaha oh man, just saw that ty for pointing it out. Definitely an editing screw up. At least it was a kind of cool one and not something lame though :)

[@metalbrute4795]

@@DoingFedTime Agreed, it was kinda cool! it didn't affect the quality of the video at all,The only reason i paid attention is because i am a video editor lol. i am actually looking forward to seeing you sitting at 600k, I have zero doubt in my mind you will get there, i will be here when that happens!

[@StertyOG]

I love how authentic and real you are FedTime! Love the content and keep the videos coming!

[@DoingFedTime]

Thank you! I appreciate the kind words I also appreciate you taking the time to comment!

[@OnlyMon0]

There are available solutions like Anduril's Sentry that can track objects within a radius, typically used for border protection. They are even capable of tracking very small birds, as demonstrated in a Mark Rober video, so even fully custom drones are trackable. Im sure that Octopus is aware of this technology, but still it seems more risky than traditional mail drop offs. I am interested to see how it all plays out though. Only time will tell.

[@cody_raves]

I find it funny that a vendor will go out of the way to contact you to get you to make a video to respond to another KZbinr criticizing the vendor… on the clear net It’s all kind of silly to me that a dark net vendor would even respond at all… even still anything he\she said should be taken with a grain of salt. Why would anyone divulge any info about a criminal enterprise to the masses willingly? The ego is a weird thing….

[@nursentertainment5733]

he did a sales pitch:) take it normally. many of the viewers will be encouraged to go there.

[@ghettochicken8420]

in every point they made sure to flame mental outlaws “lack of ____” 😂🤣

[@seetheious9879]

I wonder much of this is Octopus throwing red herrings that sound more sophisticated than the reality may be? It certainly makes a professional impression but then that may be the point more so than reflecting reality?

[@Dave-nv5rv]

I don't comment often, but I watch every video and immediately click play when you drop a new one. Thanks for taking the time to make great vids for us.

[@MarinescuRadu]

Hi, ill ask something really random that came to mind, i saw the defcon talk that you did, amazing.What im wondering about is that how do you cope, mentally, with making(assumption) 3-4k a month(since u live in the us there are bigger salaries i guess) than making atleast 10-12k from ur past job(darknet drugdealing). Since the difference is so big, and is a big question to ask and im sorry if im giving some dark thought thru this pure genuine question that comes to my mind, in a nutshell : How do you feel about getting 4k a month from a legal job, since (assumption) you compare it to the drug dealing. Cheers!

[@_BLANK_BLANK]

If I was octopus. My response would have probably have been nothing. At the very least I wouldn't have given any details on how the operation may or may not be done. Seems like a big risk to give any info at all. Even if what he said isn't specific enough to actually get them caught. I think its a bad idea.

[@brad6817]

Out of curiosity I zoomed in to see who the wise old man of the darkness is subscribe to on KZbin. Lol

[@codymustafa5034]

This dude got the real info, not like mental outlaw. That boy mental outlaw went on dread a few times and read the 2017 bible and parlays this information into drawing in crowds of edgy teenagers who think the darkweb is like that old hackers movie. He knows just enough to sound knowledgeable to a layperson, but he's only ever been a spectator. Bunch of people talking about feds and glowing when they never sat a day behind them walls. Got put onto you from that one podcast you were on, you the real deal, keep up the good work bro.

[@DoingFedTime]

Big thanks, @codymustafa5034! Glad you enjoyed it. Thank youf or the support!

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

W0rd.

[@nanobotkemo]

I'm curious why the change the firmware, im assuming drones have a "phone home" function making them effectively trackable. That's just my guess as I'm not very experienced with drones

[@DoingFedTime]

Companies like DJI which produces about 70% of consumer drones has programs avalibe to Law Enforcment that allow for the takeover of the drone in real time, among many other 'safty' features that make the drone less of yours and more of the government. Think of the flying eye bots in fallout 3.

[@victorygarden556]

Absolutely love this. Great vid. Glad to hear more about drones.

[@user-fp7fs9xl2t]

Amazing Content ... Thanks for the website ...

[@pinkerdroit]

Thank you for sharing.

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

After reading the comments here its easy to spot the script kiddies from the men.

[@Usmc913]

Another great video. Keep them coming!

[@zac2577]

Feds will enjoy the breakdown

[@sunnohh]

Every time I need an awful but near correct yet entirely wrong take I go straight to mentaloutlaw

[@username3719]

Love you Sam! Keep up the great factual based content

[@mehvix]

MO makes lazy video stretched to 10min mark, speculating on top-level ideas and w/o research/practice/understanding of the subject? shocker!

[@TyrellWellick-sr6qy]

Their response sounds like it was generated by an AI chat bot also sounds like optipus claims that their darknet drone technology is sophiticated. I call bs

[@gratefulwookie618]

Biggest challenge for vendors these days? Market volatility. While every market should be assumed willcrash tomorrow, or already a honeypot. They hardly last a full year these days. Especially for successful sellers. I imagine it being hard to turn down sales but if theres buku money in 'scrow, they should probably wait until it clears. Next, postage. Sourcing postage anonymously probably isnt easy. Most articles on vendor arrests show a distinct tie to either exchanging their crypto without de-anonymizing it, or postage purchased in ways it ties back to them. Lastly, buyer negligence. From what it sounds like, many dont utilize pgp themselves. And FUD has become such common place, many think its wise to send to a vacant property, or change their name. Ive even heard of people not putting a name. Again I imagine turning down money is difficult, but doing anything but denying those transactions probably opens them up to so much possible exposure. My situation years ago was only a very close call thankfully. But certainly close enough i turned my life around and walked away from all of it for good

[@forex_shark6042]

Postage is an issue. I've heard about guys going into their local post office and paying for 25-30 overnight packages every day and having to have runners going to multiple post offices like this. If you do it once or twice it's not likely to raise too many eyes but people will start wondering what's up if it's a constant thing and they will "accidently" rip open a package.

[@ChrisHaefner]

Oh man I am out of the loop on this one. Im gonna have to look at mental outlaws video i guess

[@MichaelPesta]

Hey as someone who hasn't seen the source of video and initially responding to this I have a few thoughts: My qualifications are humanities degree and the use of the dark web a decade ago. That should show that I am not up to date with the latest procedures however I have some questions that I would like clarified if someone would be willing. First off the use of drones is very interesting proposition of illicit delivery. I understand that there are great new models that have big ranges however the fact remains between wind radio and line of sight, it would be quite apparent if there would be multiple delivery drones in any given metro area. I'm not going to address the vocabulary and language of the post back and forth because that is easily falsified. I am concerned however that this is just a point of marketing to course correct as enterprises often battle each other ala PepsiCo and Coca-Cola Co. It does seem unreasonable to paint a larger Target on one's self in an illicit market, unless the scope is to obtain more customers. I say that as being a former dealer over a decade ago. Encrypted radio transmissions is suspicious. I happen to live near several small airports so I understand the heavy regulation that the FAA has in my area. Multiple drones with absolutely trigger an investigation. I have no doubts that drone technology is now at an untraceable level all the way from hardware to firmware 3D printing and selectively design circuit production is available to the average consumer now. Overall I guess this video raised more questions in my head than it actually answered. I'm not attempting to cast doubt upon the claims of octopus, however as someone that was in the market years ago I understand that there is a lot of bluffing and s*** talking that goes back and forth. Maintaining a high and loyal customer base is always forefront in the mind of that style of entrepreneur. These are my random thoughts that I'm using a cell phone with speech to text technology.

[@DoingFedTime]

You being here, makes you qualified. I like to hear peoples responses irregardless of there past. I personally, as an exvendor would never use drones. I think it's crazy.

[@titanalpha4774]

❤ Solid..... Unique to such a high level.... Mr.Bent the Moonshine Man. Calling on metaphor to assist - The metal of a man formed into a blade.... Katana would have been your grade! Much love Sam.

[@DoingFedTime]

Thank you for this. Definitely made my day reading it! Also it's good to see you comment! It's been a little bit since I've seen you in the comments section. I know this isn't the place for it but I hope you're doing well my friend.

[@JoshRobinFoster]

Im too to dumb to understand much about what’s being discussed, but I think generally, outlaw’s a net positive for education in general, but he may cross some boundaries into things he could probably do more research into. I barely understand drones, so it would’ve been nice to have a basic idea of what our government does with them, and the models they use, for what purpose etc. ❤

[@blairseo1]

Octopus and Mental Outlaw it's both persons thoughts without more data hard to say who's right or wrong but I like Mental Outlaw and find him a smart guy either way.

[@CrittingOut]

I'm not really convinced by point 1. Sure, you can extend the range of the drone, but how far are you really going to get it? What about when law enforcement tries finding the source of the RF device? It seems like too much to be dealing with long term. Same with point 8, their argument is basically just that they are hoping law enforcement wont care. Is that true? Probably. But it's not a great point to be honest. Point 9 is undeterminable, it could very well be that their choices are helping them evade detection. It also could very well be that they are screwing themselves. There is no real way to reach objective truth on this matter. Points 6, 10, 11, 12, 13 aren't very substantial in my opinion and read like they're trying to increase the number of "points" presented as a way to magnify their argument. Some of it being repetitions. I think the other points are objectively correct, at least mostly. Will they be proven correct in the long run? Honestly, I think it would be pretty cool if so. Only time will tell if they are going to be around for years to come.

[@Mon3yManFlack0]

Yes obviously mentaloutlaw is veered more towards CPM unlike your channel and this is why Octopus was right. I think Mentaloutlaw with the level of knowledge that they have could have done their due diligence and reached out which would've potentially have made an even better video than the one he put out. I really liked his channel but as of a couple of months he has been doing some weird things that made me watch him less and less.

[@connorharvey2252]

I'm soooo glad you made this video I can't stand MO

[@TANOCHOA]

You'd blow if you speak on your time studying law in the feds. Glad you're a free man 💯

[@dotDURI]

incredible content

[@noizW]

Darknet should be renamed into Dramanet, it's much more fitting. Oh please dear octopus, don't hurt our boy MO, he surely didn't know what he was getting into. (I sometimes wonder if he will be the next Lin)

[@DoingFedTime]

Noizw you had my laughing my ass off with this comment. Especially the first line! It's so true. There is a shit load of drama on the DN at any given time.

[@noizW]

@noizW vor 0 Sekunden Hello, it’s an honour you answered personally. I really didnt wanted to offend anyone, so please dont be mad on me, this is my weird humor. I like your channel very much and hope you’re successful! Just the best (please don’t be mad at me)

[@redumbrella6832]

Holy shit i'm so in for this beef

[@iamfinancesensei]

Im a subscriber of both channels. I appreciate the unbiased sharing of the other side of the story

[@forex_shark6042]

Having the give an address as the customer of a darkweb market ordering physical product is a major downside and if drone delivery allows for the good to be delivered to a neutral place that could allow for a runner to quickly grab it and take off, there could be a benefit but I think it greatly increases the chance that some feds are going to end up being the majority of the people operating the deliveries because they can then get exposure to a ton of legit vendors client base.

[@GhostPrivacy]

Mental Outlaw does seem to take more and more liberties in regards to assumptions about others intentions and abilities. I think it probably comes along with fast growth and the feeling that you must be doing something right and that it's because of your high level proficiency in such topics. I still like him though, we're all human. Sometimes reality gets to us for a bit.

[@Khal_Jocko]

You are a true God among us mortals thanks for another quality video

[@DoingFedTime]

Thank you for taking the time to comment and by default support the video by doing so!

[@SkimaskSpeaks]

Auto drone deliveries will be crazy, welcome to the future that was predicted in the late 90s/early 2000s movies.

[@offensive-operator]

Taking into account the time that octopus has been in business without being caught is because it has a good OPSEC. OPSEC is like programming, after implementing an IF we just matter of finding all the possible ELSEs. I think a person that is not lazy can easily make simple mistakes. an intelligent and technologically savvy person is capable of developing insane OPSEC protocols. Btw your videos are amazing you deserve every follower and more! blessings

[@unicorn_tamer]

Ah yeah, he made fun of someone who was selling drugs and now they have less business. How tragic!

[@DoingFedTime]

Do they thorugh? I also don't ever recall saying it's tragic.

[@nezu_cc]

A response is nice, but this response is just as bad as the original vodeo. Responding with "oh, you don't understand" is worthless, why even bother getting into a "he said, she said" argument when you're not gonna make us understand.

[@nezu_cc]

Ps: I understand that not giving information out is part of opsec but still, why bother if your response consists of basically the same "no u" statement repeated a bunch of times

[@negrastormentas2865]

Very interesting video.

[@DoingFedTime]

Glad you think so!

[@connorharvey2252]

Quality 👍

[@comosaycomosah]

lol this is awesome and an amazing reply by them

[@connorharvey2252]

You know MO made a video telling people to stop use vpn's for tor soooo that says alot about how he gets down. I think anyway

[@notafbihoneypot8487]

I love being here to show i like going on the dark net to for cake recipies

[@DoingFedTime]

Not a fan, I prefer to get cookie recipies. 🙂

[@MrJoosebawkz]

im not super familiar with ur channel but it's my understanding your an ex-con right? And I'm guessing with some kind of "probation" like I know parole in the fed system was gotten rid of but Matt Cox for instance still has some post-release rules he needs to follow. Are you not concerned at all about communicating and even taking messages for a federal felon / fugitive actively engaged in a felony criminal conspiracy? Seems like it would either directly break some rules if not laws and almost surely set you up to break some in the future

[@MrJoosebawkz]

good luck telling the police that you didn't actually place the order when it comes in on a drone. At least with a package (which isn't meant to be recovered immediately) you have plausible deniability

[@MrJoosebawkz]

1:05 bro disappeared

[@1337G-Unit]

Octopus just stop it. Out here laying strategies n stuff. U could have pmed him n resolve this like a g. We think u clout-chasing but why put people's business out in details (weird). U ain't the only plug. Mental Outlaw didn't give any misinformation, he talked bout situations n wasn't wrong. There are 100s other ways to do drone-delivering so at the end it comes to skills n experience. U're making a target out of yourself n EVERY vendors, just stop it folk.

[@Warlordjoker2394]

I find it a little strange. He reached out to you. I feel like the whole fight club thing applies to this like rule number one of dark web. Don't talk about dark web. Guy seems a little bit too cocky for my taste

[@badopsec]

least obvious octopus detrace 😂

[@BMOThebot]

If i was octopus i wouldve never responded

[@kairoswave]

If I was outlaw I would be laughing my ass off over some "darknet vendor" being butthurt over an opinion LOL

[@christiangonzalez6945]

@@kairoswave thank God you aren't

[@bccsivxx-xxivvii]

Hilarious anyone cares that the drug dealers didn't get a fair shake. I understand the cat and mouse game appeal, but seems unwise to respond like this, if this is even the actual operator, giving even an inkling of an inside look to MO. He's definitely a fed.

[@DoingFedTime]

By default anyone who ships drugs can legally not be a fed. Furthermore almost anyone can be labeled a criminal so...

[@bccsivxx-xxivvii]

@@DoingFedTime MO is the fed.

[@rockmusicman21]

What makes you think mental outlaw is a fed? He gives very good advice about opsec that could potentially prevent you being caught by the feds.

[@rockmusicman21]

​@@DoingFedTimewhat do you mean? Feds ship drugs and then bust you when you pick up the package.

[@mathiaskanuck6759]

Thanks for doing this vid, you're the man Sam. Also, can you ask them if the 120s are legit farm and if they deliver to p..... LOL jk jk. Thanks Sam

[@Gsxr617]

Octopus got those OC 120s on deck 🙃🙃🙃

[@nerox59]

My guy knows how to use chatgpt

[@richardporter7204]

no diddy

[@breachperplex8846]

So your saying u can get drugs on the darkweb and have it delivered by a flying drone 🤣 this is the funniest and sickest thing I’ve ever heard of

[@MrMrBurnablunt]

What's octopus onion

[@DoingFedTime]

You can find it on Pitch. Pitch has a specific subdreaddit, or you can get it on daunt.link

[@myekuntz]

Actually my question is ,why care whats said about Octopus unless yo-u are ,oh umm my bad 😊

[@DoingFedTime]

I think it's less 'caring' and more 'finding intersting'. Also, personally, I liked the idea of him being able to talk back in some way to the person who made a video about him, because he (Octopus) doens't have a platform like YT.

[@OneManCanStopTheMotorOfWorld]

Well done friend, this was executed perfectly. Sometimes Icarus flies too close to the sun

[@hummel6364]

2:33 the answer you give to why we should care is not an answer. "Why should you care what John Doe has to say? Because it comes from John Doe, straight from the source." is not an argument. Besides it seems your whole video is based upon misunderstanding Mental Outlaw's video. He didn't attack or criticize nobody, he basically just said it's gonna be real hard if not impossible to do this safely, and he is right.

[@DoingFedTime]

1st off thank you for taking the time to comment. I disagree with your position though. The argument about John Doe isn't merely about the person but about the credibility and direct source of information, which is a fundamental principle in evaluating any claim.

[@hummel6364]

@@DoingFedTime I get what you're saying, but you asked the wrong rhetorical question in my opinion. If you ask "Why should you care about what he has to say?" I believe you should talk about why the topic should be intriguing, not why the source is credible. Maybe this is a little stupid of me but I believe you should have said something more along the lines of "Why should you trust this man's information?"

[@DoingFedTime]

I appreciate your feedback, this kind of feedback helps me do better in future videos, so it's not just lip service (like most!). My goal was to emphasize why direct sources like John Doe are worth paying attention to. I'll consider your point about making the topic's intrigue clearer in future videos.

[@T4KKFI]

7:02 this a self snitching video 8:47 👍🏾 9:50 cool vid by the way, just remain completive with intelligent threats

[@davidmaisel8062]

Octopus had a great response in my opinion. I like Mental Outlaw and to his credit, if someone was to take an off the shelf drone to use for nefarious purposes, it wouldn't be long before it's tracked. But obviously we are not talking about casual drone enthusiasts. A bit of a deep dive into the subject reveals what Octopus is conveying. So a bit lazy on Mental Outlaw's side. It is a fascinating (albeit frightening) subject.

[@aerodynechambers]

I imagine Mr Outlaw either anticipated not getting a response from octopus or doesn’t want to associate with ‘criminals’

[@zedev444]

what if they're the same person? it would be a huge ass arg ad. also MO and octopus have never been seen in the same room... makes you think 🤔🤔🤔

[@_sh1123]

I did not watch the mentioned video, but took the opportunity to unsub MO's channel. The answer was justified in my opinion, and given the difference in expertise, somewhat decent. If i would purchase goods over the DN, this service provider would be top of mind for me (first remembered or thought of). The focus on opsec shows, what they are doing, imho. Sorry for my bad grammar and style and thanks for your insightful and interesting clips about the twilight zone. Cheers!

[@DoingFedTime]

For the record your grammar is no worse than mine! 🙂

[@acanofspam4347]

just because hes wrong about one thing out of hundreds of videos doesn't mean you have to unsub lol. Everyone makes mistakes if he can take accountability for it ,its fine. or maybe he somehow has a good response to this idk, just wait and see what he has to say about this.

[@_sh1123]

I did enjoy hios previous videos, and i am not saying he is bad, but life is short, i try to asvoid false information. For the good order of things, i should watch the video, asap, to make up my own mind. Trusting DoingFedTime was a more heuristic approach.

[@Lowshyne]

If I was a dark net vendor I would be kinda mad that such a large KZbinr with so much grasp didn’t even try to reach out to me and let me know he was going to make a video on my market and post it on KZbin and spreading misinformation to the general public thus hurting our business and image. I watched that video and it did feel to me like he thought they were some amateurs using regular drones to drop off. Obviously they have advanced drones and everything. But if you ask me the whole video is kinda like an ad for octopus. Imagine how many people started using the service just because they saw it on mental outlaws channel. So I guess it’s a double edge sword. It puts the market at risk but is free advertising for more people to join the site.

[@T4KKFI]

You can construct your own business as a service with that real estate market. Right

[@danieldouglas210]

How much did chat gpt help to write the message from Octopus?

[@shaunokane9600]

None. Evidently, it would be absolute insanity to have a public service tie you to such activities.

[@danieldouglas210]

@@shaunokane9600 I pretty sure he knows how to be anomonous when using such tools.

[@LukSter18998]

@@danieldouglas210 it’s owned by microsoft. nobody who does ‘operations’ will use microsoft…right?

[@rawsm.4129]

may they used Jan?

[@rawsm.4129]

maybe*

[@IlIlIIlIlIlIlIlIl]

I hope mental outlaw makes a response

[@DoingFedTime]

Likewise, he's an intelligent creator and I would love to see what he has to say in response to this.

[@apIthletIcc]

r/misinformation go brrrrr

[@dk0money]

Octopus communicated well, and yes better lines of communication should have been in place between Mental Outlaw and Octopus, I think a darknet vendor pays mind to security more than a regular vendors and I respect Octopus in that regard.

[@ToonersUWU]

Octopus sounds sketchy. Like a police op. Why would I care how you deliver my drugs? You don’t need to tell me just do it and shut up. Probably a police op

[@xoxoxo-42]

xoxoxo