OCUSYNC 2.0 VS WIFI MYTHBUSTED! WHAT IS IT AND WHY IS IT BETTER? DJI MAVIC MINI | MINI 2

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GAVINHR

GAVINHR

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@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Please be aware there are more in depth differences with ocusync such as OFDM and how its delivered and different video and signal channels, For this video I wanted to keep it simple demonstrate the differences you can see and the fact it still uses 2.4 % 5.8ghz channels - Many new Mini 2 owners are struggling for connection in high interference areas and are disappointed as its not what they are expecting - I am trying to manage expectations and show why this may happen,
@markcloudchaser874
@markcloudchaser874 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy the Mini 2 on Tuesday, but I have only just read about all the problems. Is it worth buying, any help Thanks.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
It's still worth buying mate, at the end of the day there's no better drone for the money it's as simple as that! you will be more than happy with it I can assure you 😊 just seen your other question also - no need for yagis it will go far further than now legally allowed now so don't waste your money on them for the mini 2
@markcloudchaser874
@markcloudchaser874 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR awesome. Thanks very much. Definitely going to buy it now. Cheers Brother 👊 when I get used to flying it I will put up a video. 💯
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome 👌 where you thinking of getting it from?
@markcloudchaser874
@markcloudchaser874 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR Argos. I live in the UK. Newcastle upon Tyne and Wear lol..But my dad's going to put the cash into his bank and get me it.
@stevenshackelford1937
@stevenshackelford1937 2 жыл бұрын
Finally - after a yr and a half... somebody 'YOU' has allowed me to understand. Every other explanation I have found is more about showing off one's supposedly deep understanding of this. They are, in other words - Full of Themselves! You have answered this question without all the BS. Fantastic. Thank you so very much!!!
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thank you for watching 🙂
@SimonsDrones
@SimonsDrones 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clear explantion Gavin. The fact that people assume Ocusync is a different connection technology than standard wifi just shows how clever DJI have been with their marketing!
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with that, as mentioned to others there is a bit more to it making it a stronger connection etc but most people won't care .. people want to see things they can see and I can demonstrate the switching for a stronger signal. This video is aimed at the masses who are buying a mini 2 and then still getting signal issues and them not understanding why.
@abqdor
@abqdor 3 жыл бұрын
As everyone has said, this was the most concise and simplified comparison of Occusync vs. Wi-fi that I've seen. It is basically the Cliff Notes version, without going in to heavy technical stuff. Now I feel that I can explain the difference when others ask me about it. I've commented before on a couple of your previous videos, but this one definitely made me hit the subscribe button. Thanks!
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly, exactly that I will admit there is more to it but I just wanted to simplify it to the bit that makes the most difference and understandable difference between the two. Appreciate the sub thank you 🙂
@2dronesphotography
@2dronesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just picked up my Mini 2 and I immediately did a range test against my Mavic mini - it’s crazy the improvement in range and signal strength the mini 2 has through Ocusync! Thanks for the explanation 👍🏻
@joegy9944
@joegy9944 3 жыл бұрын
Gavin: Great video! I have a question. I recently purchased the DJI Mini (1). Cannot use my phone Samsung J3 nor the Moto G6? Can I purchase a controller like the Radio Master with screen to run and enjoy the drone? I'm totally new to this. Should I return and cut my losses? I bought at Costco. Thanks for your help and advice with what to buy.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Good day! Sadly no there is no other controller with a screen that will work sadly ! Unless you have a tablet maybe that will work the only thing that will work is to replace your phone sadly. Other than that it will be a case of having to return it to Costco I am sorry to say
@7lostboy
@7lostboy 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I live in the remote Scottish Highlands with very little phone coverage and when you do it drops as quick. So which one would work best up here.
@RobertoSteveLou
@RobertoSteveLou 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for such a great channel, now subscribed! can I ask some simple question? mavic mini 2 or SE coming to latin america should automatically come with FFC intead of CE for more range? or should I perform the gps fake app to obtain larger range performance?
@michaelweeks9273
@michaelweeks9273 3 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly. But only the mini 2 uses occusync protocol. And you are correct over here in the Americas cuz I'm from America we get different drone equipment it's more powerful
@jamesrubin4516
@jamesrubin4516 3 жыл бұрын
I am finding out my Mavic Mini 2 gets better and more secure range than my Mavi Pro 2 with the smart controller. So, am I to understand my smart controller is not dynamic but remains static? Thank You for clearing this up for me. Good presentation. From James Rubin, OD Missouri , USA
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for watching James!
@michaelweeks9273
@michaelweeks9273 3 жыл бұрын
James realize we don't have that issue here in America with DJI ocusync 2 our drones in the remotes are different.
@markkeoghan3902
@markkeoghan3902 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gavin..... We all talk about our Drones flying through areas with a lot of wifi interference and possibly loosing connection......Does it work in reverse if the controller is in a heavily populated wifi area and the drone is 1km away in the middle of the countryside with no wifi interference. Basically.....is the controller affected by wifi interference just as much as the drone. Whats your thoughts?? Thanks ..Mark
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark ... Yes indeed any interference between the controller or the drone will affect signal, you're just as likely to fly your drone out of an high interference area as you are to fly in to it. Of course if your controller is in an urban area yet you fly out to countryside yes you are right you will still struggle at times.
@markkeoghan3902
@markkeoghan3902 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Gavin.
@danman32
@danman32 3 жыл бұрын
However on takeoff both the RC and AC are in the same area so a channel would be selected that's ideal for both. So unless you walk significantly from takeoff location, the RC should be in the best channel for its environment.
@RobertoSteveLou
@RobertoSteveLou 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! is there a way to change channels on the middle of a flight?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
On the Mavic mini no, on the mini 2 Yes it does it automatically if you leave it in dual band
@RobertoSteveLou
@RobertoSteveLou 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR that means that if I am in dual band I can change myself channels while up in the air? superb!
@haroonvlogs5437
@haroonvlogs5437 3 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense. Just dynamic channel selection helps with range as opposed to static channel. That's why when you reach weak signal if you hover there for few seconds it gets better signal sometimes as its re assessing the channel based on situation
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly that Sir ! That's all ocusync is 👌 but also explains why newbie first drone Mini 2 owners expect it to be rock solid 100% of the time and the misconceptions on why it's actually better and saying the mavic mini is 'just' WiFi .. so is the mini 2 ☺️
@DjTonioRoffo
@DjTonioRoffo 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR that is just false. Mavic Mini uses a WiFi standard. The encoding used in Occusync has nothing to do with the WiFi standard whatsoever.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
So why do DJI call it a WiFi based system if that's the case ?
@DjTonioRoffo
@DjTonioRoffo 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR It's using the same frequency bands because those are free to use in most countries, but the radio signalling isn't WiFi. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfUlIasbtiFZqM
@droningwesternaustralia
@droningwesternaustralia 3 жыл бұрын
Ok question. Say I'm flying on Enhanced WiFi, my display shows Weak Signal, can I manually change channels or will I run the risk of loosing the drone
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
On the mavic mini you cannot change channel once it has taken off anyway, but if you lost connection you would be fine as it would return to home :)
@droningwesternaustralia
@droningwesternaustralia 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR cheers I wasn't sure.
@edgarrousselin6075
@edgarrousselin6075 Жыл бұрын
So all that said, if I am to fly at the beach or in the countryside where there are no homes or interference. What would be the best? and what will determine my range? THX
@OriginalSniperLol
@OriginalSniperLol 2 күн бұрын
Had a DJI Mini SE back in 2022 before I sold it in 2023 and enhanced wifi transmission was pretty bad at most cases: Even in line of sight the drone’s feed would disconnect and auto rth would have to let it come back sooner than it should and obstacles like buildings or trees are a huge problem and it was irritating. Ordered a Mini 4K and it’s arriving tomorrow and I can’t wait to see how ocusync is like (I know it’ll be so much better). Thanks so much for the vid!
@2057-p2n
@2057-p2n 3 жыл бұрын
Very accurate explaination. Shame on others youtubers who did not do their research and bluff how good the occusync is, but did not realise occusync still use 2.4 and 5.8GHz which is same as wifi
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Most people on KZbin like to just tell you how good something is without explaining it, I try to give straight up advice on my channel as best as possible. Thank you for watching
@jtepsr
@jtepsr 3 жыл бұрын
I own the mavic pro 2 with dji goggles, will the goggles connect to the min 2
@addahebburn3473
@addahebburn3473 3 жыл бұрын
so can you change frequencies during the flight of mavic mini or not.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Nope once in flight it is static plus if you could I wouldn't fancy choosing to break signal as then you wouldn't be in control of your drone
@geraldbrady5860
@geraldbrady5860 3 жыл бұрын
Only just seen this video Gavin and wanted to thank you for the excellent explanation of the wi-fi with the Mini2 which I bought last year.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome I'm glad it gives you a good understanding 😊
@UKBUBBLERS
@UKBUBBLERS 3 жыл бұрын
What In your opinion gav is the best range extenders for mini 1 :)
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Covered it numerous times mate... The best value and all rounder are the simple parabolics, I'm choosing them because they work on 2.4 and 5.8, I would obviously suggest my own superyagi ones they give a super strong signal or the parayagis mate
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHzXl2Wcgrqsg8k
@UKBUBBLERS
@UKBUBBLERS 3 жыл бұрын
Cool so.how do I buy them directly of you I did go to your link for amazon but looks like 3rd party sellers
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, if you want the superyagis just drop me a mail on superyagi@outlook.com, name / address / phone number then PayPal to superyagi@outlook.com £36.99 and I get them sorted for you. I do say allow 14 days for delivery just in case
@wesleywhite6597
@wesleywhite6597 2 жыл бұрын
Is ocusync going to be better then a Mavic mini se with a range extender
@fonzieskatesurf
@fonzieskatesurf 2 жыл бұрын
What if I'm out in the jungle or ocean with zero wifi service, can I still fly safely and RTH? Or I turn off all wifi on my phone to save data, can I still fly with no internet?
@Tomas001cz
@Tomas001cz 3 жыл бұрын
Does it mean that both drones would have about the same range in not wifi polluted areas?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
The mini 2 would have slightly better range becsue it has more broadcasting power. But I have shown on a previous video that a Mavic mini with a range extender can outperform a mini 2 with ocusync yes. It's on my channel somewhere ! 4000m for the mini 2 Vs 5000m with the Mavic mini and extenders
@Tomas001cz
@Tomas001cz 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR Thank you for answering 😊
@monztur
@monztur 3 жыл бұрын
Great info but can you answer a question for me. I have the mini two. I also have mavic pro. I have dji black racing googles. Why cant i use them with mini 2. Is it a software problem or is it a incompatibly problem. Thanks ahead for any answers Armand
@tledger1716
@tledger1716 3 жыл бұрын
mine goes about 500m then disconnects but there is houses in my way is that causing the problem
@thedroningoflife
@thedroningoflife 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried flying the mini2 in doors? Have seen a few videos but any specific settings should be used,?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mark no mate just make sure you keep it in cinemode for nice slow movement and you will be fine :)
@johnwalker1
@johnwalker1 3 жыл бұрын
More good stuff keep em coming gavin Thanks for your time to help us barnsley john
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@jackmuraguri1836
@jackmuraguri1836 3 жыл бұрын
What really impressed me about Occusync (mini 2) is that I could operate the drone through a very thick glass door with the Remote control facing the opposite direction!
@user-rmftwz-yrjsoq
@user-rmftwz-yrjsoq 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy! If I ever get one, I might stay at home and look at the footage on the phone while I keep the drone flying outside until it's battery goes down 😅
@novavolex5568
@novavolex5568 2 жыл бұрын
Simple and very understandable explanation. Great job, thank you!
@drkevin3235
@drkevin3235 3 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful in expanding my understanding. You're a great teacher! I'm very pleased with Mini 2 and Occusync. Big difference in my area where there is lots of interference, I get much better range and more importantly, no interrupted filming. Keep up the great videos!
@SimonChiarvesio
@SimonChiarvesio 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, didn't know that, great video, many thanks
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@arekmanakyan2240
@arekmanakyan2240 3 жыл бұрын
So why can't the ability to dynamically change between channels be added to the Mavic Mini via a firmware/software update? This seems like like a software than a hardware issue, no?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I was told that the mavic mini could change channels but I believe I was incorrectly informed as I never saw any evidence of it in my testing
@dontme000
@dontme000 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! Great video well explained sir! Helped me a lot on my DJI Mini 2. I thought the problem was the Fly App, after i watched this video i tried downloading the latest Fly App version then changed the frequency to 2.4ghz. BOOM! My rc signal went good and no more lost connection. Thanks a lot 😍😍
@dontme000
@dontme000 2 жыл бұрын
but dual band on my mini 2 doesnt work why??
@celdouble0
@celdouble0 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I Have A Question, If I Live In A Urban Neighborhood With Trees & Power Lines & Buildings Do You Think That It Will Effect My Dji Mini 2 As Bad As The Mini 1 & Mini SE ? The Mini 1 & SE Has Wifi Only But The Mini 2 Has Ocusync. *PLEASE ANSWER*
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
The mini 2 has more broadcasting power than the mini 1 and se. Ocusync is still WiFi, it will be a bit better however in those scenarios
@celdouble0
@celdouble0 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR thank you so much
@uac1710
@uac1710 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly. This video made me decide to really buy the mini 2. I like the technology DJI installed in this device. Thank you sir.
@alecmichie1128
@alecmichie1128 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys does any one no of a free editor for the Mavic mini 2 please thank you. Enjoying to these helpful information cheers fella
@peterh1911
@peterh1911 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gavin thanks great explanation. On the Mini 1 if flying in manual Wi-Fi settings can the channels be change manually in flight?
@kiylemcgovern1340
@kiylemcgovern1340 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, big fan of your work, I was wondering of you could help me out with something please or anyone in the comments, I would really appreciate it. I have a spare dji mini 2 controller and If was to but the dji SE version would the ocusync work on that drone or not??? Thanks
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, unfortunately they are not compatible and it won't work unfortunately I am sorry to say
@DungarooTV
@DungarooTV 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained. In simple terms, Ocusync is just DJI’s smart mid-flight channel-hopping tech that allows for a more stable and stronger signal with 2.0 improving on this. That’s about it. Cheers
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Nailed it Kevin 👌
@DungarooTV
@DungarooTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR Like you bro, when people think OS2 is some type of new signal technology - I just laugh! LOL
@DungarooTV
@DungarooTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR Bro, my friends and I need your expertise on a topic that isn’t covered much in the droning community or even filming videos in general - it’s horizontal side-panning judder aka stuttering when moving from side to side - I notice it’s note evident in 30 fps but still happens even in 60. This is particularly annoying when panning with a drone gimbal that’s why I noticed most flyers will avoid this in their videos. Are you able to cover this in your next Mini 2 tutorial based on your years of experience? Many footage become unusable because of this! Some info here: www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4349208
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin... I didn't do a tutorial on this however ... If you watch my last video where I do some filming round a ship you can see that this judder is not there. I noticed that on previous videos I had done... Exactly what I'd mentioned on that forum - on initial playback it is not there but when it comes to the final KZbin upload it was there. I recently experimented with making sure my export bit rate was the same or higher as the bitrate it was filmed in. I found that even though my mini 2 was filming at 100mbs my software was exporting it at like 80m making it judder. Give that a try
@DungarooTV
@DungarooTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR interesting...thanks very much...that's probably why - it's the 100mbs per second thing - I will see if exporting it at higher or the same will fix. Man thanks.
@joemostacci6093
@joemostacci6093 3 жыл бұрын
My mini wont connect my mini 2 app crashes stopping recording.HELP!!!
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Which app update are you on? iOS or Android?
@joemostacci6093
@joemostacci6093 3 жыл бұрын
android n i undeleted it & reinstalled it
@MrMusic55123
@MrMusic55123 3 жыл бұрын
so Mini 2 has a more powerful remote only than Dji Mini and not on the drone itself?
@tukangbobo
@tukangbobo 3 жыл бұрын
I really have a tight budget and really want the Ocusync. But now here in my country already release the mini SE, and the price for Mini SE fly more are same price with Mini 2 standard. I only afford for the Mini 3 standard but the price Mini SE Combo really tempting. What do you think?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Well the mini SE does not have ocusync, for that price you should try pick up a Mavic mini fly more combo :) the original. It still does an amazing job
@tukangbobo
@tukangbobo 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR Mavic mini SE fly more combo only $34 more expensive than the original, so I think i just get the MiniSE more combo ;). thanks
@alfredk2731
@alfredk2731 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the wifi analzer app
@fernanbermejoduran619
@fernanbermejoduran619 3 жыл бұрын
So its not the same the ocusync of the mini 2 that the mavic air 2 has??
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Yeo it's exactly the same that's the ocusync I am talking about
@Peakabike
@Peakabike 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense when there is interference but in that case out in the countryside there should be no range difference...except the power is higher on the Mini 2 apparently. Although you'd think they would already be operating at maximum legal power with the M1 ?
@outoutmtb1949
@outoutmtb1949 3 жыл бұрын
Explained that really well Gavin keep it up, I work as network engineer at an Airport in the northwest of England, I couldn't of explained it better LOL ....
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Haha ! Im sure you could have explained it better but I very much appreciate your kind words! Thanks for watching 🙂
@FrankDrankA_Skank
@FrankDrankA_Skank 3 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the place youre at In the city with all the other antennas and signals it might get weak signal Correct me if im wrong
@richardsimmons6470
@richardsimmons6470 3 жыл бұрын
really useful thanks. Can i ask what you do for a living
@GeoDandrew
@GeoDandrew 3 жыл бұрын
Being a first time user with the Mini 2 I have a new understanding with better definition! Thank you for sharing!
@nicholascrocker4329
@nicholascrocker4329 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the best explanation of Ocusync 2. The other day when it was calm I went flying my DJI Mavic Mini. Fortunately I live in a very rural area. I used up one battery, put in another, took off and quickly noticed signal issues. Checked the Transmission and found that it had automatically gone to 5.8. Landed drone and looking at the Transmission noticed the 2.4 bars turning red. At one point all the 2.4 bars were red! All 5.8 bars were green. In the past, when I have checked, usually every single 2.4 bar is green. What is causing this interference considering my rural situation.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thats quite strange however not uncommon, I wish I could advise perfectly but I can't- however I will say sometimes those bars need a few minutes to 'settle down' - for example its not uncommon if you switch to a manual channel for it to go red initially even if it was showing green before - just one of those little quirks!
@Guoenyi
@Guoenyi 3 жыл бұрын
Probably long range radio comm over the air.
@jbl7092
@jbl7092 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who can explain wifi and ocusync so that a tech dumb ass like me can understand it. Brilliant, and thanks! I just subscribed.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome! Thank you for watching
@anonn7727
@anonn7727 Жыл бұрын
And knowing that all devices around the world use the non overlapping channels 1,6,and 11 by default so you could choose any other channel besides those for 2.4GHZ, helps a great deal.
@Patrickakustisk
@Patrickakustisk 2 жыл бұрын
Can i use the smart controller with te mini 2
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 2 жыл бұрын
Not the mini 3 RC no unfortunately not
@MarcusTDM
@MarcusTDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, i currently have a Spark, and want to add a mini or mini 2 to my Arsenal. This video is really helpful.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome
@DroneViewsMedia
@DroneViewsMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man, it always surprises me how many people fail to understand these basic concepts
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thats my point exactly - yes it allows a stronger uninterrupted connection and it better at batting out interference but its still using 2.4 / 5.8ghz channels
@johncrable2275
@johncrable2275 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, I learned something today ,so you could say for all the drones that simply use wi fi only that if they had the ability to adjust for frequency changing during flight they could have greater range......so is this a hardware ,or software change that allows this ?
@medinabrandon76
@medinabrandon76 2 жыл бұрын
love ur video new sub here i have the mini se with the yagi would you recommend I sell out the 150 for it ?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 2 жыл бұрын
No certainly not, keep hold of it, if you use the right channel with the Yagi antenna if you are keeping within the distance that combination is more then good enough - plus when I did a blind video test people picked the Mavic mini / SE over the mini 2!
@stevebaker2211
@stevebaker2211 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gavin great clear and concise explanation thank you, I have a mavic mini and was considering the mini 2 however other than the camera & occusync I think i will stick with the mini for now and wait for the next evolution of the mini.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I feel that's a wise choice. It seems a major amount of my views come from mini 2 owners.. the fact I own both I can tell you that for my own personal uses the Mavic mini is absolutely fine for pretty much anybody
@stevenwright411
@stevenwright411 3 жыл бұрын
Finally the dark art explained, subscribed based on this vid alone 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly! There is more in-depth stuff to it naturally and how it gets the information on switching or to switch etc and also separate video / signal channels but ultimately this is the basic version which helps people understand why ocusync gives a better signal
@darrentoth7165
@darrentoth7165 2 жыл бұрын
So basically if I am flying in an area where there is zero interference, the mini 2 will achieve further range than the mini solely on having a more powerful controller and has nothing to do with Ocusync. The only benefit of Ocusync is in "busy" areas where it can auto adjust correct? Thanks for the explanation of how these systems work
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly that !
@armandopace6113
@armandopace6113 3 жыл бұрын
That's some very helpful information i had no idea I'm just a newbe to drones. Fantastic thank you for that mate. 👍👍
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@mustanghuey89
@mustanghuey89 3 жыл бұрын
Good video I learned something today.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for watching 😊
@thedroningoflife
@thedroningoflife 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as per usual, great explanation 👏, took my mini2 for first night flight, used your discount for the strobon Cree lights, used red and green, brilliant.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mark, yes they work fantastic don't they! Super bright and allow orientation! Glad you're happy with them
@contentlessincali602
@contentlessincali602 3 жыл бұрын
So what happens when the drone experiences interference, does it fall out of the sky?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
You either lose connection and the drone will auto return to home if you have that option set or if it switches it should clear up :)
@pril250
@pril250 3 жыл бұрын
As you know on both Mini 2 and Mavic Air 2 many are experiencing loss of connection, now that happens even on relatively short distances, ruling out signal strength issues, which makes me wonder whether the remote receiver is some times missing the data packet from the drone informing of a dynamic band change.....what is your take on that being reason? Ocusync out of sync?
@michaelweeks9273
@michaelweeks9273 3 жыл бұрын
All honestly and with a hundred % truth the answer to your question . The actual reason is a regional. Let me explain DjI mini 2 that is sold in the North American drone market is different than the ones over in Europe and many other countries. Here in North America the mini 2 drone along with the RC231 remote control. Has better technology and stronger frequency. If you research there are three models. One model is marketed for the North American market and China. The second model is meant for the European market and most others. And last but not least the model that was intended for Japan a 199g it has a smaller and lighter battery. And if you actually sit down and think about this issue. I can almost guarantee you can't find one drone channel on KZbin that's from north America that has or talks about a signal loss or transmission
@dejan011
@dejan011 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly information I needed - big Thanks!
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@XAEA-XII503
@XAEA-XII503 2 жыл бұрын
To save you 11 minutes Extended Wi-Fi picks the channel with the lowest interference in that area and can't change that channel during light Ocusync 2.0 picks the channel with the lowest interference in that area but can change channels in flight to another channel that could have even less interference thus meaning it can go further (hope this helps)
@ivanjdrakov1957
@ivanjdrakov1957 3 жыл бұрын
Dynamic Extended Wi-Fi with a special coupling of the video over the control signal... Sweet
@DigitalJunior2003
@DigitalJunior2003 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video Gavin. What’s your wife analyser that you are using ?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate - its the one by olgor.com if you look in your app store :) and thank you
@blacksand9805
@blacksand9805 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, now I understand better the occusync. I dont know what's the range close to urban areas, I use my mini2 in the mountains. I've already tried it at 1.5 miles with absolutely no problem. I'm very impressed by the range of this little mini2
@alfbaldwin7144
@alfbaldwin7144 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent description and explanation. Thank you
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@eppixx
@eppixx 3 жыл бұрын
The best 'ocusync-for-dummies' video 🙂 Thank you!
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly! Exactly the sort of feedback I like, if it helps end explains I am happy
@Calvin.Cheney
@Calvin.Cheney 3 жыл бұрын
What is occusync 3 is it just 4 Ariel's
@davideberhardt4977
@davideberhardt4977 Жыл бұрын
I would guess that we are dealing with at least 3 points of signal interference, one where the drone happens to be and one at the controller position plus anything in between. Hopefully ocusync finds a clear channel amongst all the others that may be present.
@jetmartin9501
@jetmartin9501 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure that I convinced with your conclusion that automatic frequency hopping is the only special sauce that makes Occusync so much better than Wifi connectivity. I say this because the Parrot Anafi has automatic frequency hopping and yet it's transmission system is not very good.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the only special sauce .. there are other factors at work such as seperate video and signal channels and it's interference rejecting properties but that's all for another video. Essentially this is about people understanding the primary concept on why the mini 2 signal is better than the Mavic mini :)
@yanassi
@yanassi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is one of the bits of information i was looking for. I bought the mavic mini, happily because it was sub 250g. Then i learned about the coming fpv, occusync, etc. Now i’m feeling like system obsolescence is a problem. Why bother if the controller is not forward compatible with newer drones, it seems i really need to just hold off buying anything until the systems are well above my drone interest needs. Only the kit builders, maintain usefullness, i thought, then i saw a wall of unused drones, boxes with no longer used controllers. This industry is far from future (2 years) proof
@reshairo
@reshairo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx Gav for the clear explanation.
@jwolfers1
@jwolfers1 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of how the 2 drones differ. Thank you!
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly for watching
@WiljanWiljan
@WiljanWiljan 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation as always from your channel !
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome
@jillbluerei4806
@jillbluerei4806 2 жыл бұрын
Transmit power is not only stronger in the controller, it's also stronger in the drone. Combine a stronger signal (that inherently reflects/deflects better) with a system that offers auto-sensing and channel switching - that's a no-brainer! Thanks for the vid.
@Alan316100
@Alan316100 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you :-)
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@VictorMartinVandJ
@VictorMartinVandJ 3 жыл бұрын
Well done 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@geetee27
@geetee27 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting explanation. Once again Thank You.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 11 ай бұрын
You’re very welcome! I should maybe update it :)
@atyavilaag
@atyavilaag 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Very informative video!
@John-pq8fk
@John-pq8fk 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video buddie, learned so much from you past months.. any videos on the Skyline in the pipeline
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Hi man! Yes that's the plan, it's all tucked away for winter right now but as soon as as the warmer weather comes I have another cinematic video planned
@John-pq8fk
@John-pq8fk 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thanks mate 👍
@crashpilot1
@crashpilot1 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic i thought it was a different thing. Thanks for that loving the videos matey 👍
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
So do most people - exactly why I made this video! thanks for watching
@denkn
@denkn 3 жыл бұрын
Having been involved in setting up long range WiFi service systems in the 90s, I am well impressed with your explanation of how it works and OccuSync's role in the spectrum. I would like to see an explanation such as this that discusses the LEAS system of such as Hubsan products some time. I've subscribed to your channel as a result of this video... Thank you...
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very kindly I'm glad you found it useful ! Appreciate the sub thank you
@stephenshaw6244
@stephenshaw6244 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou, very helpful and well explained.
@nickstevens6398
@nickstevens6398 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Thanks!!
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@Ste300uk
@Ste300uk 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained 👌
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@petermcgarrymusicandflying
@petermcgarrymusicandflying 3 жыл бұрын
Super job
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@richardstewart4866
@richardstewart4866 3 жыл бұрын
This is why one needs a phone with 802.11ac WIFI to run the software effectively. Because it is capable of changing frequency on the fly as it were.
@howardtownsend3139
@howardtownsend3139 3 жыл бұрын
Again, as I have said before, high power RF signals can also give connection problems even if not on the same frequency. The most problems people have is near airport or weather radar systems plus near aircraft ILS or beacons. These can be in very unusual locations such as the beacon at Holderness in East Yorkshire. It literally is a horizontal mast on what looks like a farmhouse but the beam transmission from it is immense!
@hawkinsuk
@hawkinsuk 3 жыл бұрын
Really well explained. Thanks a lot :) Mike
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome thank you for watching
@宁蒙
@宁蒙 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video My mini2 has been in service for more than a month, and I am very satisfied with its performance, image quality and flight performance. As far as signal transmission is concerned, I have encountered two times of loss of image transmission (control signal is not lost), which is really stressful. Both times were in the case of a lot of trees, so I suggest that when flying mini2, avoid taking off in the forest and other places with luxuriant vegetation.
@mirrorman30
@mirrorman30 3 жыл бұрын
very very imformative,,thanks for explaining it in simple terms cheers bud
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped !
@yasirjamal1
@yasirjamal1 3 жыл бұрын
Super explanation, very helpful.
@RCsbyRich
@RCsbyRich 3 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation of the 2 variant types of transmission, I like the ease of the description without getting overly technical about it especially For people that didn't understand I'm sure they do now 👍
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard, I appreciate some purists won't agree as there is much more technical differences but the basic principles are it still is WiFi based and effectively the channel switching that makes the difference to a better signal
@jetmartin9501
@jetmartin9501 3 жыл бұрын
Related to my other comment your video seems to conclude that the Mavic Mini's (v1) Extended WIFI does NOT have real time frequency hoping (and hence this is largely but not solely per your clarifications in your response) why Occusync 2.0 signal is significantly more resistant to interference. Do you have proof (based on tests) that this is the case (i.e., no dynamic frequency hopping in Extended Wifi)? I don't know for sure...so it's an honest question. I guess I'm dubious that DJI's Extended Wifi wouldn't include dynamic channel hopping capability given that other competitor's drones from 2-3 years ago had that capability. I ask because if the Mini 1's Extended WIFI offering DOES have dynamic channel hoping then one must conclude that the "other special sauce" of Occusync 2.0 is far more important than the dynamic channel hopping capability and that other "special sauce" accounts for the significantly better range (and interference resistance) of Occusync 2.0. Again, it's possible you are 100% right but I'd love to see some test data to prove that your assumption is correct. Any chance you could do some more testing to confirm your finding (that the Mini 1's Extended Wifi doesn't do dynamic channel hopping). Or maybe DJI techs could confirm your assumptions...personally I haven't had much luck getting technical info from DJI. Sorry not trying to be "difficult" it's just my nature to ask questions and verify what I hear. Cheers.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
No problems at all.. to sum up.. I have tested this on the Mavic mini, I once asked DJI support if the Mavic mini can channel hop as I believed it made sense to do so otherwise what would be the point in the auto feature right? That was my thinking. When I asked them they told me that is could switch channels in flight - I was happy and went away to test it. On numerous range tests that you can see in my back catalogue - of course all the range tests are not published only the ones that go perfect and show conclusive results made videos - and in all that time flying I never once saw the drone return home on a different channel when left on auto after take off - observing the channels whilst in flight it also remained static coming to the conclusion that other people were correct and that it cannot channel hop as I was actually trying to prove.
@jetmartin9501
@jetmartin9501 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR Thanks for the response...I have a follow on question re: your answer. While I've seen some of your range tests I've not seen all off them. So here is my question, have you ever done a range test in a wifi congested area? Typically range tests are done in areas where there would be little to no interference as the goal is to see how far you can go. If you aren't testing in wifi congested areas then I think it is possible that you wouldn't see the frequency hopping...particularly if your only measurement of it is to compare the take off channel to the channel used on the return. It could be that DJI's algorithm is to only check other channels when the interference is detected vs hopping when the channel signal becomes weak due to distance limitations. Or they could check other channels and if no better channel is found simply return to the original channel. It's also possible that DJI's channel hopping algorithm is very simplistic (e.g., only try one other channel and if that is no better return to the original one. I'm jussayin..... So with that in mind it would be interesting to see if you could observe channel hopping in more congested areas. Maybe fly a short distance away but at high altitude and then descend to a height where you know will encounter WIFI interference and see if the channel changes. Also rather than just comparing the outbound channel to the inbound channel could you check for channel hopping on it's route...e.g., when you are descending in to the Wifi interference zone. Just a thought. Also have you checked for channel hopping on Mini 2 with Occusync 2.0? One would think you'd see channel hopping on Occusync 2.0. If you aren't seeing channel hopping there maybe your technique for measuring it is not accurate? Just a thought.
@ivanjdrakov1957
@ivanjdrakov1957 3 жыл бұрын
Very, very good and accurate video, sweet, thanks for making it!!! Sweet 😁🇧🇬🛸
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Ivan! How's the FCC hack working? Do you know maybe I am wrong ...I am sure I read somewhere the Mavic mini CE and FCC had different hardware and the FCC hack didn't do anything ? Just what I read months and months ago. Have you noticed a stronger connection?
@ivanjdrakov1957
@ivanjdrakov1957 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAVINHR yes, for the 5.8ghz channels I now feel the power hey! Yes you are correct, there are 2 different hardware models, but it's not the drone hardware that is different the drones are exactly the same, it's the RC the controller that has different hardware! The FCC model controller has only 5.8ghz channels, not even 1 of the 2.4ghz channels are available.. The CE model of the controller has no amplifier chip for the 5.8ghz band like the FCC model has.. Basically that's the difference, the controller for the USA model has an amplifier and 1W of Transmission power for the 5.8ghz channels, that's how they get their huge range with the FCC models while they have only 5.8ghz channels.. So I permanently FCC Hacked my controller and boy am I happy now! I have only 11 of the 2.4ghz channels, that's because in the USA channel 12 and 13 are not for public use, I think only for government and military services, that's why when we do the FCC Hack on our CE controllers/models we still get 2.4ghz channels but they ommit 12 and 13.. So yes the power is not 1W after the FCC Hack is done on the CE model RC, but the power of it doubles! So say it's 200mw or something the power for Europe for 5.8ghz channels, it boosts it to 400mw! I can feel a huge difference because I fly only 5.8ghz channels and I fly heavily wi-fi polluted areas.. Without the FCC Hack you can see in my videos at 350m, even though I use my homemade parabolic reflectors, I get really really bad lag sometimes, I'm afraid to fly to 500m altitude without the FCC Hack. But with the FCC Hack I can get over 1km with still perfect, full signal.. That is impossible without the FCC Hack.. They actually call it a Boost the developers of the hack exactly for that reason, it's not FCC power levels but it is boosted to double the power of normal.. It only affects the power of the 5.8ghz channels though and it removes channel 12 and 13.. So yeah, for you, I'm not sure how much 5.8ghz channel flights you do, but for me flying only on 5.8ghz this FCC Boost is really really essential.. I get very, smooth, fluid video transmission further than 1km easily, where usually I'd get 300m and crazy, scary lag... I prefer to fly with 5.8ghz almost everywhere, I know this way I'll have the best quality signal.. 📶👌👍🇧🇬🛸😁 Keep well and be safe bro!
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