Oda May Have Revealed Joyboy's Crew...

"Forgive me, Joyboy" has a lot of implications coming from that robot...
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[@CantusTropus]

Idk if this is relevant, but in Greco-Roman mythology, Saturn killed and usurped his father Uranus. I wonder if it's possible that the Gorosei used to be part of Joyboy's crew but betrayed him (it would seem fitting for the Sun God's crew to be themed after the ten planets). Zunesha and the Robot might have been tricked into aiding this betrayal and come to regret it later. Idk, but it at least seems interesting to me.

[@WhosThatBird_]

Ten planets?

[@CantusTropus]

@@WhosThatBird_ OK, so, maybe nine planets + the Moon or something. This is also counting Pluto as a planet, which it was regarded as when Oda was growing up.

[@V1ralB1ack]

Your theory both sounds plausible and fits the themes very well 👌

[@JackahoonaLaGuna]

@@CantusTropus”cut Pluto out of that line up” - Neil D. Tyson

[@final2k565]

@@JackahoonaLaGunawhen one piece was still being plotted out it was still a planet

[@serpently9404]

For me you nailed it when you said that they didn't believe in Joyboy My theory is that IMU managed to convince everyone to turn against Joyboy

[@VR-xr1wy]

Good theory they probably did and then Imu turned on them and they regretted their actions and that’s why they said “Forgive me Joyboy”

[@MKL3165]

​@@VR-xr1wyagreed

[@joeysblind]

@@VR-xr1wy this is also proved by vivi

[@benjamincloutier8270]

@@joeysblind how does vivi confirm this

[@marcokrautwald1886]

all im saying is skypea reflects the whole series and the past is tol trough noland the lyer who nobody believed. so luffy will show joyboy was right

[@kingofdefense]

Zunesha sounds more like a Laboon than a Chopper to me.

[@TME-gm5sv]

yeahhhh

[@Orneyrocks1609]

That's probably because of her being so big. But considering that Joyboy was also a giant/buccaneer and all things from the void century are much larger than from the present, he does kinda scale to chopper's monster form.

[@Tijada]

I honestly just believe the robot is sorry because he didn't manage to complete the mission Joyboy gave him, which was to destroy Marie Jois and the 5 Elders

[@MKL3165]

That could be it too.

[@Coolgiy67]

Yeah but the robot attacked Mary joa only 200 years ago. 600 year difference between that event and joy boy being alive

[@Tijada]

​@@Coolgiy67His will could've been passed down being able to power the ancient robot, but his will will could've been destroyed when the ancient robot relazied he would have to wait until joyboys return

[@ffswege9244]

Funniest part is that a lot of people hyped it to be zoro's chapter becouse of supposed 1111 symbolic or whatever, and just almost nothing special regarding his charcter happened

[@therealestoat]

rob lucci’s “almost nothing happened” moment

[@ffswege9244]

@@therealestoat bro everything happened to him

[@Baji2202]

​@@ffswege9244didn't get it bud

[@borsalino177]

would have been a bit weird to put now an entire chapter for zoro. It would be so random especially since there is so much going on right now

[@deckleberry]

Its not that funny

[@pyremis]

The “bad timeline” thing at the end was a like a lightbulb going off in my head. 🔥vid

[@lilbariis1534]

Maybe most of his companions may have some guilt instilled in them because of the chains of events that led to their loss and may have committed something grave to stay hidden

[@DaksSake]

I may be doing a full vid on this exact thing, there is clearly shared remorse somewhere among all of them

[@masongroves4226]

@@DaksSakeI think this is spot on. I’m willing to bet money later we learn that Joyboys crew lost faith in their leader. But this time, Luffys nakama would never even falter in their belief.

[@stevenkunkle3857]

I never drew the connection to Franky and Chopper. Mind blown, makes so much sense

[@zacharyswygart337]

"Unlike the straw hats"...sir, willingly or not, half the crew has turned against the straw hats at one point or another

[@lukaswithak4443]

they may have left or even fought and argued but not once have they ever stopped believing luffy will be king of the pirates, even when ussop was leaving the crew he said it, they've never actually turned against him

[@lukas-kevynmuller6697]

they've separated for a couple of reasons but they never stopped believing. Sanji left because he tried to sacrifice himself. Usopp left because he was felt like he was lacking behind and would be left behind anyway, just like they had to leave behind marry because she couldn't carry them further. He did not stop believing in Luffy, he didn't believe in himself. etc.

[@shihoblade]

Only Usopp has ever betrayed the group. And Zoro has threatened to on occasion. Everyone else is super loyal.

[@mattb8412]

They have almost all done it, felt they did or thought they needed to. Nami ditched them and stole the Merry. Usopp when he left the crew. Zoro felt he had failed Luffy when he lost to Mihawk and when Ace died. Robin when she left the crew. Sanji when he left the crew.

[@ja3033]

​@@mattb8412 and chopper when luffy refused to help Robin at saboady. Ohh wait, nvm...

[@blazelion9883]

Maybe the robot will help the straw hats escape

[@DaksSake]

I think he will by taking over the fighting vs the Gorosei to stall them. Wouldn't be surprised if he knows how to permanently hurt them too

[@CoffeeTC]

That would be so sad but also epic if we get a full-blown flashback for Joy-Boy, and the Iron giant, and then he pulls some Kuma action makes us love the iron giant, and then it sacrifice itself to save Joy-Boy, and the rest of the crew from the five elders oh man, sorry bleach, thousand year blood war ain’t got nothing on this final saga of one piece, I bet Oda does some wild shit and makes the final arc like an entire meme just for the lols too. We all know it’s the friends we made along the way anyways the one and not how it really ends that matters. “The one piece is real”

[@blazelion9883]

@@DaksSake yea i think its about time the straw hats leave vegapunk is injured,zoro is done with his fight, kizaru is hesitant, and i don’t believe luffy can handle all of the gordsei

[@deckleberry]

Over 1000 EPs and the bitch ass straw hate crew still running away

[@uchihatanjiro123]

@@blazelion9883 he can defeat them if he understands his powers which he don't he still think he have gum gum fruit power

[@LordVanOskuro]

My theory is that Imu and Nika were space pirates that crashed in the OP world.

[@migaloomoki5724]

It could be that they failed to accomplish their goal, causing Joy Boy to die/be captured and now they have to live in shame

[@JVB013NL]

They say sorry for being unable to protect joyboy

[@BeggarVEVO]

I dont see many good OP theories at all but this one cooked

[@sytorias7143]

It's scary how late in the game it is now, it feels like just speculating is practically a spoiler

[@CJ-ct2mu]

Sounds similar to no one believing Noland. People have been saying that Skypiea is the whole One Piece story in mini form for a while now. It would make sense that Joy Boy wasnt believed in for some reason and his followers turned their back on him. Only to later find out that they were lied to.

[@sarougeau]

I've been thinking that the robot is an ancient Franky equivalent for a while. The other guess is maybe something similar to Kuma where they were once Joyboy's crewmate/friend but ended up being a tool exploited by the enemy.

[@shadowhell8378]

If they were joyboy's crew then he had a robot, a animal/ a mythical zoan user(that's what I think the elephant is) and a fishman/mermaid.

[@haevester3697]

i wonder if the betrayel of joyboys previous crew is lack of faith. cause we see a ton of faith from luffys crew. what if this faith was paralleled up until the major test of faith and with out the faith from his crew he lost his strength. thus they were instremental in his loss.

[@Upside_Down-]

That kind of reminds me of Ussop leaving Luffy, which would be another parallel between Luffy and joy boy

[@lancasteredc7773]

I think they apologized because they had to kill joyboy so that imu doesn’t freeze him in the deep freezer and stop his will from reincarnated into the devil fruit and passed down to someone like luffy which is what happened… joyboy told them to kill him to have hope for the future

[@Miss_Yonko]

The franky part is wild

[@thewanderersrespite8074]

I feel like we're gonna find out that Joyboy's crew lost faith in him. Like how the Straw Hats always, no matter what, always believe in Luffy and declare that he will be the King of the Pirates. I kinda imagine it being the same for Joyboy, but for some reason his crew was either convinced to betray or abandon him, maybe thinking it the correct choice at the time only to realize they screwed up when it was already too late? HAS IT BEEN 3 WEEKS I NEED TO KNOW

[@augustbeller]

Bad Timeline Franky looks suspiciously similar to the iron giant lol

[@samvanroon5041]

If Zunesha was a part of Joyboy's crew my money is their position at least partially being the ship.

[@topawesomevideos8230]

Yo imagine they being crewmates of Joyboy. Their crew must've been insanely strong

[@guardianknight3447]

Theory the crime they commited is simple but so sad and heavy their crime is they let Joyboy get killed by the five elder so this is like sabadoy arc but the difference is joyboy is killed and only a handfull of crew remain and eventualy scatered and in guilt they give themself self punishment as for let joyboy killed and make the what supposed to be the final war became the beggining of the tyrant of the world goverment

[@reduxgamingyt1176]

Robot about to send hell to the Straw Hats enemies

[@blackrags6916]

Someone caused a Great flood… Just think about…

[@Luminosityy7]

Oda did state that the ending of one piece will be the saddest moment in history. This could mean that joy boy’s history and the void century’s history could be revealed.

[@sneek8057]

Joyboy's crew are forced to betray him if they have no choice. Maybe the choices were Billions of lives or Joyboys's life.

[@PRTYPPR]

From history we know the only way for the 20 kings to defeat the ancient kingdom which was so powerful and advanced, was to turn their own "weapons" against them. Fooling, manipulating or even forcing good hearted people to do horrible thing is a recurring theme in One Piece so those entities could have been manipulated, pressured or even mind controlled into failing the ancient kingdom. Also I think the AK invented devil fruits but in some way Imu cursed them all (I may pull this up from another fan theory)

[@johnnstamoezze4047]

Well, since JoyBoy was a radical anti-government revolutionary. What we do know is that the celestial dragons took over the last power in the world. Covered up the history of such power. I believe the robot and zunisha were in a great battle and I think some forces never showed up and abandoned Joy Boy. We also know JoyBoy created the Arc to bring the fish people into the world. That his failed promise, he promised to ensure the world would be free, but instead turned into a world power dictatorship.

[@tawhidhasan826]

And maybe when robot realize then attacked mariejos after 600 years😂 I liked your theory so far❤️

[@Tobirama_isHimju]

I think that JoyBoy went around to each island and helped each of these members, and then made a pact with all of them like the Strawhats and Vivi. That is what is called the D clan. They believed in JoyBoy after he saved them from something. We saw how Akainu convinced Squard to turn on WB, which ultimately lead to his demise. But someone he trusted was the only way. Maybe they were forced because they held a family member hostage like Big Mom did to Zeff to get Sanji to betray Luffy. Had he not inflicted such a fatal wound, they weren't going to beat WB so easily, and would have taken catastrophic losses at the top. So it's not farfetched that someone was convinced the same way to turn on JoyBoy because that was the only way to create an opening for the rest of the events to unfold, which is why everyone is apologizing to him. JoyBoy apologizing to Poseidon might be because he promised to take her to Sea so she could experience an adventure kinda similar to how Luffy gave Poseidon the confidence to face her fears, so eventually she could go on an adventure with them.

[@ethanreid7631]

I think that zu was tricked and betrayed joyboy while the robot simply failed joyboy, i also think emu was a member of the joyboys crew and maybe his second in command, which would make a creat comparison to zoro, the only og straw hat to not betray luffy in some way.

[@Haw_Ree]

Real theory zunisha & Robert can't save the joyboy who was betrayed by imu she was also joyboy crewmate . That's why they are saying sorry🎉❤❤

[@theoraexplora]

Damn, got me looking forward to 2 years of Void Century flashbacks in the manga...

[@jeremyringkamp2490]

The elephant was tricked into betraying joyboy due to the dango dango fruit power. Which framed joyboy for the first 109 m flood that binks sake sings about.

[@betteroffbrent]

new theory, Imu can possess people/take on their bodies. Imu possessed someone that had the gravity fruit to bring down the old kingdoms moon planet to create the redline. Imu then took over Vivi's ancestor and convinced everyone to betray JoyBoy

[@voidtrap966]

"forgive me joyboy.. i failed you and let you fall"

[@the_chestnut_tanuki]

W THEORY 🔥

[@DaksSake]

the chestnut goat

[@RealTampaKatnapper]

that actually makes a lot of sense makes me wonder if that one guy from thriller bark it think ryuma was his right hand man?

[@JohnDoe-xp6oh]

Ryuma was alive after joyboy, not during the void century. So nope, impossible.

[@Vhargon]

I do like the idea that One Piece takes place in the bad timeline of the void century. What would Zunesha look like if it was the good timeline? Just imagine how happy that tusky boy could have been...

[@PaiKaushik]

When you realise Imu is just Blackbeard piggybacking Shanks...

[@trcznx8017]

My thought is that just like nami in Luffy's crew who is greedy for money , imu or his/her ancestor were in joyboy's crew who is so greedy for power and wealth . Maybe because of that greedness imu or imu's ancestor betrayed joyboy and zunesha or the robot can't save joyboy and imu become powerful above the celestial dragons. Maybe because of that they both Zunesha and the robot were seeking forgiveness from joyboy or his reincarnation.

[@JohnDoe-xp6oh]

Imu is a male. This is confirmed. Stop the his/her crap like we don't know.

[@attilaherceg369]

he got captured by imu and with his god mode he would never die neither anyone could free him, but apparently them two , his companions had the capacity to blow joyboy up in his captivity so hecan reincarnate

[@jonathanmartinez1655]

Wait wasn’t joyboy apologizing to the back thens princess mermaid could she have been apart of there group like Ginba

[@katastrofygames]

JoyBoy’s crew committed mutiny. Imu is the one who led the mutiny. After which, imu betrayed the rest of the crew and left them for dead and/or punishment. Imu did this so that they could claim mass wealth and power without having to share it with the crew or the people JoyBoy made friends with/made promises to. That’s what I think anyways.

[@xaovangshineonlyfe]

So Imu is Nami?

[@aspopulvera9130]

possibly the robot's attack on the septic tank named mary geoise is it's form of repentance

[@scipioprime69]

Zunesha and Emeth could have failed to assist Joyboy in battle. Just like how Strawhats feels sorry about Luffy in Marineford when Ace got killed and they didnt helped him in anyway possible. I doubt that they betrayed Joyboy at all.

[@devastatheseeker9967]

Everyone keeps thinking we'll get a void century flashback. It's not set in stone as far as I'm aware

[@javedskitchen9609]

would have ben nice to get some fight scenes from that time as flash backs or something

[@BuddyRIP]

But can we point out that not only does bad timeline 50 franky turn into a robot, it looks like the ancient robot but with his facial structure. Look at the shoulders. Thats very interesting. Honestly even if this theory isnt true, it may be the idea oda is going on. Like it was the original idea and he slightly changed it but the concept is still there. On another note age 70 franky being a boat is hilariously wild to me. Makes me wonder if thats ALSO part of the joke, like pluton was the iron giants "Sunny".... Actually........ wait......

[@Koinoo-q8f]

I think he probably lost to imu and his crew couldn't help their own captain in his time of need

[@kevinmoore4355]

bro, this is a great theory and I wished to see it come true

[@hitoprice7913]

There isna theory I read that the giant robot killed the real joyboy in the freezer in order for the devil fruit to go in rotation again.

[@ultimatevaltryek1235]

Lol I was the first person to think of this a while ago and now it's everywhere like everyone else is coming to the same conclusion

[@420rashaad]

The secret to beating the five stars is gonna be on a ponegliff

[@ITheAscended1]

I saw in a recent episode they kinda revealed what happend during the void century

[@chrisdanks6447]

The elephant WAS their ship.

[@Lokoclutch98]

Im thinkin it might hint at the joyboy crewmates like zunisha and the iron giant, must have maybe betrayed joyboy kinda like jon snow and the nightwatch. In what they percive to be a greater good, the betrayed theyre leader

[@unclesam9591]

So Frankie could turn into a shipment

[@MattC-q8d]

Everyone betrays each other and thus sorry. 😢

[@maxmurray6680]

See the bad timeline was made before the timeskip designs (as evidenced by Franky's look in the good timeline). But as of now, isnt Franky physically closer to the bad timeline??

[@ryangartland8245]

Literal quotes from the Grandline Review channel

[@mark.lizettegrant]

They didn't help him with the big boat that lead to the darkness taking over

[@Trickster___]

Me personally I’m thinking someone from the WG used the soul-soul fruit back in the void century, after the defeat of Joyboy and the AK, to take all of JB’s companions souls and put them into living things, which is why the Robot can speak, which, if this theory is true, makes me think if there are many other weird creatures (that used to be joyboy’s companions) that have existed since the void century, and perhaps they reside in laughtale? This is a stupid theory but I just had it in my mind.

[@jeno-gc4pb]

My theory is that joyboys crew could not help him in a fight that got him killed and feal guilty but im only on skypea and my knowlage of joyboy and that kind of stuff is from youtube so im probably hella off 😂😂😂

[@anttilaitinen7304]

So pluton actually is some old shipwright who turned himself into a ship 😂😂 gets me wondering what the countermeasure pluton was/is 🤔

[@defaulthero3498]

I think it more that they had a choice to denounce him as king or die with him and/or there home land being destroyed something to that effect

[@shisuiuchiha1201]

What if the robot rides zunesha into battle like doc q rides the mule 😂

[@Ironcorgi2]

I think joyboy ultimatly failed against the elders and celestial dragons that’s why they are sorry.

[@happyface9973]

I think the forgiveness is for not able to save Joyboy, or something told them to do but could not fulfill the task

[@mckennalester2248]

Idk maybe he had a robot this is possible the ones who are saying sorry are his crew members or they can be his subordinates

[@RandyTillman20]

Joyboy is not dead! He’s frozen 🥶…. Need external flame to thaw him out

[@abiyyupanggalih854]

Old pirate : Rocks Ancient Pirate : Joyboy "Void" Could be name of the pirate crew? 🤔

[@izayah4151]

The only reason I see one of luffys crew asking for forgiveness is if they weren't able to give it their all I'm guessing they lost a fight

[@uncommonunsense2107]

RE: Location Location Location

[@tabplayy]

What if imu has the ability to control everyone's will to d0 against their own willingly desires ? That's why the robot and elephant apologises for ?

[@TheSkyrux]

Joyboy fought alone against 20 kings, his crew got scared and away, thats why they are all sorry

[@suntzuking]

watching and making this kind of content it's as if Lufy would've said yes to Raleigh to be told the story about the one piece. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, I want to be surprised

[@lucentd.dreamer8012]

So Would the Cavendish Demon thing be a Brook equivalent?????

[@acguerrero3567]

No hes apologizing for failing

[@themizfittoy4752]

Let’s be real zu was the ship not chopper

[@Engifarting456]

They apologize for losing against don krieg😂😂😂

[@Mo-2100b]

I’m thinking all ancient weapons are sentient

[@blackragecalamity9336]

Maybe they didn’t believe something bad was gonna happen like Imu betraying them and they wanted Him to forgive them because they didn’t believe

[@lynx9311]

Or they could have failed to help Joyboy. They're asking for forgiveness fir letting him down.

[@ManheisMailliw-ox2rl]

Make them pay then write up the business insurance contract right after they leave. Sigma???

[@MrRourk]

No it's Sanji and all it does is microwave noodles

[@tawandamanangazira4499]

Oh daymn

[@jamoya5412]

I loved one piece but they could do without the long useless clips. I mean we're on 1116 and we still haven't seen this robot again is he still walking or what?

[@RossNerdyScotsman]

I don't think they did anything, I think joyboy disbanded his crew to keep them safe and they feel guilty as he took on imu and the world government on himself

[@mclastschrift9541]

Maybe Something happend to joyboy and they went on a rampage about that ?

[@dylanmorgan4681]

What's hilarious, is if what you said about akainu is right, then i guess akainu is marshall mathers 🤣 (tattooing his daughter on his arm [akainu with the flowers], and the reason they do what they do is for their daughters)

[@hotboybenjiblanko]

Luffys nika is a god he grants life

[@Ronnie_James...]

Omg I literally made this same comment a few days ago!

[@Luffy889]

So.. Ruffy - Joyboy Chopper - Zunesha Franky - Iron Robot Jimbei - Poseidon Nami - Uranus (because literal Meaning is "Sky" and Nami was on Weatheria-Sky Island) Brook - Pluton (because dead and God of Underworld) and the rest is still a mystery to me

[@phoenix6930]

Daks! Get out of my head!!! ❤❤