Oddity Archive: Episode 139.5 - Ben’s Junk: Sankyo Dualux Dual8 Projector (Model 2000H)

…or, Telecine redux.
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[@Larry]

Ha, my family had the cine-film version of this model, only thing was the bulb used to get so hot, the machine eventually caught fire. But I always remember it burning dust in the air. Freaky.

[@markanderson350]

I think my dad had the same one. I found it and porn films when I was a teenager. LOL

[@bobbyberetta4206]

Mark Anderson I had found my dads Betamax 70's porn tapes and I would transfer onto VHS tapes as a teenager when I had the place to myself.......goodtimes, goodtimes.

[@chrysanth.5700]

Pornography on video tape just seems all-too-fitting. People just used to have get it any way they could, and now for my generation it's all just a few clicks away.

[@markanderson350]

It was more shocking to me. I was 16 and had no idea. I found some sex toys and a bag of weed. He has been gone 18 years now. I had no trouble threading it, I had no idea it would autothread anyway.

[@markanderson350]

the good old days of BC. Before computer.

[@MitchellDanaStewart]

My family got one of these very same models for Christmas 1975. I just used it this past week. I had one of the belts and the bulb replaced.

[@TheScottytr6]

I have the same projector. The belt can be hard to find but I used a large O-ring from a local transmission shop and it works quite well.

[@robfriedrich2822]

Variable speed makes it possible, to run normal 8 with 15 fps and super 8 with maybe 20 fps. In PAL/SECAM countries they recommend 16 2/3 fps for normal 8 and 20 fps for super 8.

[@dogsbody49]

There should be a little cutter with the projector. The idea was that it would trim the end of the film to a taper which means that it will auto thread easily. There was a string attached to it so that you could tie it onto the carry handle so that you don't loose it. I bought mine in about 1978.

[@marktubeie07]

OH my gosh, I had one of these as a kid! Excellent! Nice to see it again... Hey Ben, this machine originally came with a specific Sankyo take-up reel that gently grabbed the film from the back and thread it onto that reel. Maybe that's why you are having some issues with that...

[@robfriedrich2822]

A universal projector stresses the normal 8, for it doesn't change the size of the spikes, what moves the film step by step.

[@robfriedrich2822]

One question, have you to exchange the transport rolls? Do you have the adapters from the smaller "tape reel type" hole to the S8 hole?

[@CoolDudeClem]

So what's the difference between 8mm and Super8 film? I just thought Super8 was a higher quality film but other than that exactly the same as 8mm.

[@markanderson350]

I think its wider too.

[@NR23derek]

Same width film (8mm), but the sproket joles on Suprer 8 are smaller, allowing for a bigger picture frame, I seem to remember it was about 25% bigger. It also ran faster, 18 FPS instead of 16 fps for standard 8. Incidentally, the Super 8 format was Kodak's system, but the actual film guage was claimed to have been invented by Fugi film and was called "Single 8". It used a different shaped cartridge for the unexposed film.

[@NR23derek]

Maxx Fugifilm is a well known company - over here anyway. And no, Super 8 is 8mm wide (hence the "8" in the name. Here's the fuji website: www.fujifilm.eu/uk/

[@robfriedrich2822]

In East Germany they had double super 8 film, where you use both halfs of a special 16 mm film. It's interesting, that normal 8 reels were used for quarter inch tape, so the larger tape reels may be compatible to 8 mm film, but I doesn't know about a projector large enough for this.

[@robfriedrich2822]

1:56 In a 2 format projector, sound is much difficult, for nomal and super 8 has different standards for sound and also different speeds, beside 24 fps for playing home movies you bought, normal 8 runs with 16 fps and super with 18 fps.

[@wendyokoopa7048]

Omg leisure suit Larry

[@AussieTVMusic]

I have the same one. Bought it in 1974? Still have it somewhere.

[@emmarose4234]

Psst, Ben! You should do an episode about MovieCD! Unless you’ve already done one.

[@SoulDamnFunky]

We're both into so much of the same old equipment its ridiculous, enjoy this channel loads :)

[@ninjamaster3453]

Anyone know good models that can take an LED bulb? Should last longer bet brighter and not burn the film.

[@markanderson350]

I don't think any research is going into that one. it is the shading that matters, more, not the light output.

[@NR23derek]

WHAAAAA! It's "Tele-ciny" PLEASE!!!! Not "Telescene" - ie TELEvision from CINEma

[@markanderson350]

I thought so too. I am from Canada, maybe we talk funny.

[@Fluteboy]

Like, Telecin-eh?

[@markanderson350]

Smart ass!! No Tele scène. That is a good one. LOL

[@ninjamaster3453]

Yeah we've a been there. Telecine can be expensive but better to have a not the best transfer vs no transfer at all.

[@markanderson350]

I think its a French word and Americans destroy half the French words like Foyer.