Odin 3 : Walkthrough

[@Skyverb]

The UI design team needs a raise. Love the quality of life features.

[@thaimcgrathmusic]

You have no idea how stoked I am on this ❤ Can’t wait to give it a try in the new productions!

[@SolemnTones]

If you previously purchased Odin 2, make sure to check your e-mail for a slight discount on Odin 3. If you did not receive the e-mail, please contact support.

[@Blitz83]

What if you puchased Odin II 5 days ago? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@GIANTENEMYB1RD]

@@Blitz83 according to the email I have from them, "*If you purchased Odin 2 between May 1st 2024 and June 5 2024, please contact us for a custom "damn I just bought Odin 2 which is really great but now you go and release the best virtual guitar ever made on planet earth??!!" discount." Based on my personal experience with SolemnTones, I'd expect them to be fair about it :)

[@cassclips]

​@@Blitz83 email them and they should give you a better discount

[@Blitz83]

@@cassclips Yeah! They did!!! 🙂

[@collinthomas6288]

I did not. I will contact support.

[@gavin46063]

I said it repeatedly yesterday and I keep saying it today! Odin 3 is a BEAST! Having gotten more time with Odin 3 and some sleep on top of that to process I truly am blown away at this advancement in y'all's work as I have been with each sampler before it, but all the more with Odin 3. The Chord Delay and Huminization features might be some of my personal favorite features. Again, thank you for this wonderful tool Maxime! Well done Solemn Tones!

[@SolemnTones]

Amazing to hear! Thank you so much

[@Dan-vb7lz]

Finally, I can fire myself from my band

[@SolemnTones]

Sometimes, we all deserve a little rest

[@picklechiken16]

String select, better sliding options, hammer ons and pull offs, everything I wanted from Odin2, buying it straight away

[@Dirk_Ehlert]

Bought it and like it a lot. One thing that I think could improve the performance capabilities a lot would be to have the knobs/switches Midi learnable. That way you could bring in Vibrato whenever you need with just a midi CC instead of fixed DAW autmation. Great product overall.

[@niccobambino]

I have been using The Odin Deluxe and Odin 2 for years, it is truly a metal writers wet dream. I cannot express how excited I am to dive into Odin 3! Thank you for all of the time and work you've committed to these plugins.

[@Tremendouz]

A couple of suggestions: - being able to set keyswitches to latching - being able to use the non-pre-recorded slides with a keyswitch rather than the auto slide function because sometimes you might want to overlap notes without sliding

[@SolemnTones]

Noted! Keep in mind the auto slide can be automated on/of, but I'll keep it in mind regardless :)

[@JakeAdkinsMusic]

+1 for latching

[@davidvierabarreras]

+1 latching

[@skyow733]

My guy comes in and literally implements EVERYTHING that I felt tedious about the previous iteration. IMMEDIATE purchase

[@PaulOrtiz]

Hey! Finally digging into this now, love it - just wondered is there a way to tighten up the attack, or is there a recommended negative MIDI offset to get it a little tighter on the grid? I get with sample instruments like this you need a little pre-attack for it to sound natural but it feels a bit behind the click...maybe? Sick work though, best sampled guitar I have by a mile. And I *play* guitar. This is just easier and more convenient haha.

[@SolemnTones]

Thank you! You'd want to use delay compensation on your midi track around 20ms :)

[@ArgentIcon]

I'm a big fan of the Odin 2, but this looks even better :O All the little usability improvements like the "auto chord delay" are great :)

[@GolfFoxtrotCharlie-gfc]

Messing around with it right now and im blown away! Those chugs, all the new keyswitches, being able to switch pickups! Its amazing.

[@SolemnTones]

Amazing to hear!

[@yeserguitar]

Blown away, I could really use something like this for my writing sessions and have them as quad tracking!!!

[@Josh-Poore]

Did not expect this… Odin II sounds great but had a few limitations that had me going to different guitars in some circumstances. I was just thinking yesterday how I wish it had a string select feature. Looking forward to hopefully using Odin even more now 👀

[@MarikoTheBard]

i got your mjolnir drums a few years ago and still can't imagine using anything else. keep up the good work! I love your stuff so much!

[@lllWicked]

try mixwave

[@Shane-zo4mg]

You sold me with auto sustain. I've been wanting this feature forever!

[@HeyNoah]

Great walkthrough! Just bought this yesterday, and have been loving it so far! Only thing I can't figure out how to do yet, is get those Meshuggah type sounding overtone ring-offs from palm mutes. Like the chugs. Killer work though. You guys have done an incredible job!

[@Ambitiouz_mindset]

It says you can access all tunings but how do all tunings show up correctly on the fret board I’m confused

[@JakeAdkinsMusic]

Hope to see latching mode in an update!

[@leader6303]

bro, I almost launched some songs with odin 2, god bless you, now i need save moneys damn im excited

[@wyatt.traxler]

Love the Yu-Gi-Oh cards on the wall! Definitely going to pick this up for pre-pro for the soundtrack I'm working on 🤘

[@simonschrenk6647]

just came to the comments section to see if somebody else "picked up" on that ;)

[@PoopilussMcDoopiluss]

I just bought cabal 8 and now I'm seeing this wtf. This plugin is a dream come true since I lost my guitar recently. I can't wait to purchase this and use it as a songwriting/production tool even after I get an 8 string with Evertune.

[@MixReady]

Oh wow 🤯 I need to check this out!

[@christiankrause92]

The timing on this is insane. Literally JUST started a new project under my artist name for the Electronic Music I produce. Was playing actual guitar to come up with riffs then rewrite the MIDI with Odin II in Ableton - (same method as I do for my live/metal band projects/releases) - and incorporate some metal into this new Dubstep-like Electronic project. Unfortunately, gotta wait until next paycheck, a couple days out, but this track is gonna hit heavier and SO much better than I was imagining when I use the newer Odin instead!!! I guess I’ll just keep writing the ‘basic’ MIDI for the guitar parts and when this bad mf gets brought in, THEN the specific sounds, patterns, styles, etc will come into play. Cant wait! Another badass plugin dude! Loki, Odin, Mjolnir, and Fenrir are part of my premade template every single time, and has never failed to bring my tracks to life, sounding just like I want them.

[@Musical_Unicorn]

I'm glad this is cat-friendly. Now cats can program epic guitar solos more realistically.

[@antonm_]

The tuning section seems to be just a drop down. Is there a way to create custom tunings?

[@YashGadwal]

Nope, there doesn't seem to be a way, you're stuck with those predefined tunings. Bummer, I cannot get to import my Guitar Pro midis directly in as I could with Shreddage 3 Hydra / any other Kontakt based libraries. I think Ample Sound Hellrazer can also import midis directly from Guitar Pro.

[@GMNHenry]

When I finish my latest project, I think I can review Odin 3 and compare it with Ample Sound's products

[@jsamaofficial]

Yes! Standalone is a must!!!

[@wimmeltje]

Beyond stoked on this. It really has everything 😍

[@Emm_R_Guitar]

Question. I play in a drop G# variant on a 7, which is obvs not standard 7 string tuning, will I be able to programm the fretting on the 7th string and it still sound /display the fretting properly - if that makes sense?

[@Emm_R_Guitar]

I also love that this is not a kontakt library lol

[@th3soundofcrows44]

Hello, late to the party but what drums are used in there? I want to make a DOOM Dark Ages themed argent metal, thanks!

[@ahendowski]

3 questions: Can you pitch bend 1 note during a chord? For example a dissonant bend, where i have string 1 on 13th fret, string 2 on 17th fret, and i just bend the 17th fret while not bending string 1? does the sequencer use any previous midi information to determine the string? Like if i write a note in on the 15th fret, but i want it on the 12th fret of another string, so i modify that one note, will my next drawn in note know to use that area in relation? Im a little confused on how to change positioning. For example if i want to solo frets 9-17, and i have the pattern / position set yo play there, cool, but what if one run later i want to do the same but starting from like 5-9 going across the strings with some chords inbetween - it seems like the pre defined areas cant be changed and i would have to input a separate guitar for just those parts with different string positioning.

[@darkghoulproductiondesign8198]

Is there no more “latching” mode for keyswitches?

[@SolemnTones]

There is not. Is this something you miss?

[@ConnorRileyMusic]

Latching mode would be great!

[@peptok]

Can you add more tunings to the tuning section? I play in Drop C#, Drop A, Drop A# and even Drop D. I don't play in double drop tunings.

[@SolemnTones]

Hi there, the only problem with adding these would be that the string selection keyswitches would then attempt to pull from fret/sample combinations that don't even exist. The tuning section is purely a visual aid and has no impact on the available notes, so making it break certain other features would be a problem.

[@3082frank]

Hi Solemn tones, i just got your odin 3 with the sanguine bass...can you plesse make a tutorial on how to make riffs like the djent style or may be a doom mick gordan style. 😊

[@troller88]

Can I also do some simple Black Metal Chords and let them strum? How is that done? Do I always have to puzzle these blocks on my piano role?

[@BrianHullRI]

This is great. A couple questions: How would you automate Force Vibrato so it can be toggled on or off as necessary since it's not a keyswitch? And how does the auto slide work when you overlap two notes? Should the new note start when you want the slide to start from, or should the previous note extend into the new note? Do other things need to be turned on or off for this to work? It just sounds weird when I'm doing it. And will you have a written technical manual describing how all these features work? Thank you!!!

[@adammassacre4715]

Having crazy fun with this. Can i ask a question. When im using the natural harmonic keyswitch sometimes it rings out nice like i want it to but some times is stops dead. I cant figure out why this is happening. Im using the same natural harmonic keyswitch with the same string on the same note. No notes or keyswitch notes are over-lapping. Any advice would be awesome! \m/

[@СашаЛарин-с2с]

Best VST guitar! Thx! But not find information how to make pith harmonics with bend and tremolo?

[@xv.luc1d]

Two months ago I was like "I like Odin II, but I cannot select strings or hand positions like shreddage". While it offers this feature, Shreddage Hydra, which I purchased, is nightmare to set up and program compared to Odin. + It has some phase issues. I got used to it, but it devastated me to realize Odin 3 just dropped, and it has all the needed features, but none of the headache.

[@SolemnTones]

Sorry for adding all the features everyone asked for :') To make matters worse: we're soon releasing Odin 3.1 which will bring a ton more features everyone has been asking for. The horror !

[@xv.luc1d]

​@@SolemnTonesno way you are rubbing it in for me 😭

[@SolemnTones]

sorry 😭😭

[@roxnroll8050]

Amazing, just AMAZING!!!

[@codexstudios]

6:43 can you automate that fret position target?

[@ruinofspace]

Massive sound 🔥🤘

[@MatthewSimonFletcher]

Some incredible functions in this! Thank you so much!!!

[@Deathstaroya]

im super new to this - very enjoyable, would be great if someone did a full song tutorial that the absolute beginners who are slow as f*ck can follow along - learn/ pick up tricks - that way less frustration and we'd get more out of it

[@SolemnTones]

Hi there, we got tons of song breakdowns on the channel where you can download the midi files and load those in your sessions to learn from (as well as many odin 2 tutorials throughout the years). Is there something specific you currently find challenging?

[@STEPHxCA]

Been using Ample metal Hellrazer but I need to get another one for that thick wall of sound~ been looking into this. Also hi I watch your YGO vids when they pop up on my feed lol

[@SolemnTones]

Haha amazing to hear! I’m sure you’ll love this one 👀

[@wmxx2000]

I appreciate the "Auto Chord Delay." That's been a big time eater for my writing. How long is the sustain? Is using midi from Guitar pro the same as Odin 2, just have to flip the "octave drop" switch? I'm curious to see how the "force vibrato" works. Will that be keyswitch activated as well? Because you probably don't want all the notes in a lead section to have vibrato.

[@SolemnTones]

The sustain is much much longer than Odin 2. It obviously varies from note to note as an open string can ring far longer than a 24th fret, but you can rest assured sustain on your chords and such will not be an issue. There is no octave drop switch anymore so you'd have to manually move all notes 12 semitones by highlighting them. The reason for this is that Odin 3 has SO many articulations, we could never fit them onto the midi spectrum when losing an octave. In essence, if a library matches guitar pro's octaves, it's impossible that it has as many articulations as Odin 3 does. Force vibrato can be automated on/off but is not keyswitch activated. Not all notes in a lead section would have a vibrato, since you can make them start late into the note with the attack knob. That said, worst case, it can just be automated on/off.

[@EricJohnson-fh8zj]

I'd be interested in a bass guitar VSTi that is as fully featured as this one is. Another great feature would be a step sequencer feature (like able to choose from 1 - 16 or 32 bars. And being able to save selectable A thru D sections/patterns for each instance). A good, intuitive step sequencer with scales and drag & drop midi can make programming very fast solo's much easier. Thats my vote for future feature requests lol

[@thevoidamongus3910]

As a dad I want to produce but can’t manage to practice a lot… This plugin is a blessing 😂 I have uploaded a video on my KZbin channel showcasing Odin 3 in a mixing context for the ones wondering how it can sound :)

[@miguelowls]

If you wanted to play a song in drop A how would you set that up??

[@SolemnTones]

Go to the “tuning” menu and set it to “7 string drop A” OR if you like the thick warmth of the 8 string, just leave it default and play your riffs :) Note the sampler will be calibrated 12 semitones off guitar pro’s midi notation so you’ll want to transpose your whole midi 12 semitones

[@punyhuman5405]

This was an instant buy, the only regret is I have to sleep and go to work tomorrow so not enough time to play with it.

[@IanDavis]

What's the best way to make a good old fashion 2-3 string chug on Odin?

[@SolemnTones]

Just play them all at 30 velocity. Perhaps put the higher notes at 20 if there’s too much bloomy buildup when all are at 30

[@tuantranproduction]

What are drum samples used in this video?

[@mrjarhead]

I've been using Odin 3 for a few days now and all features are as advertised, but I find myself constantly having to go back to Odin 2 specifically for sustained palm mutes. Even the most open palm mutes available in the sample library of Odin 3 die out too quickly. Hopefully an update comes where this is fixed

[@SolemnTones]

Hi there, we sampled new long held out palm mutes the past 2 weeks and are adding them to the engine as we speak. Odin 3.1 will come in a few weeks with these, along with a bunch of other new features :)

[@mrjarhead]

@@SolemnTones yessssss thank you!

[@synapticschism]

Do you have a trial version so that I can review and test it?

[@nickwatland3565]

Fuck yes . Using Odin 2 for years . Can’t wait

[@rickjames5684]

If you wanted to alternate between Bright 'n Spanky and 8 String Chug, would you want to have another track with Odin to separately play those parts?

[@SolemnTones]

That or automate it, but I find separate tracks to be faster

[@svenwetzel4927]

which real guitar would the direct input resemble (no amp)? if i ever to play my music on stage and had to recreate my sound

[@SolemnTones]

esp ltd sc608

[@Egg67538]

Loved the odin 2, but Im now using the shreddage hydra. How does the odin 3 compare to the hydra?

[@Андрюша-ч1ч]

I can't put a halter on the first version, and here the third already...

[@Moulk]

This video started as awesome, and suddenly there was a cat and it turned into a perfect video.

[@BorisHotinov]

Great job! But is there tremolo for black metal sound?

[@codydrums2175]

You have to have the tremolo key switch enabled and lower the velocity down to trigger it.

[@codydrums2175]

So since all notes are available at all times, to change “tuning” you would simply drag the midi notes up or down however many semitones until you get your preferred sound, correct?

[@SolemnTones]

Yes exactly. Though you still may want to change the tuning/string selection presets to get different tonal characters as the same note played on different strings will still sound warmer or brighter

[@codydrums2175]

@@SolemnTones I appreciate the clarification! Thank you so much!

[@fopbass]

I just wanted to make sure on something with the tunings in Odin 3: I normally tune my 8 string down a step and a half to Eb with the lowest string. Odin 3 can go to notes this low and produce the pitch, right? It's just that those low notes might not be represented on the virtual fretboard, which essentially doesn't matter for the actual sound output

[@SolemnTones]

Yes, it can go down that low and you can even change the visual tuning in the "advanced" settings, but it won't impact your sound whatsoever.

[@fopbass]

@@SolemnTones Thank you for the quick response! Now it's time for me to go get Odin 3 and run it through that beautiful Fenrir amp 🤘

[@officialhardnox]

What drums sounds are you guys using for this video? They’re sick!

[@developdevicestudio]

I can't wait to write some killer new riffs. This just sounds awesome. 👌🔥

[@zdurso27]

Any chance that you'll be adding sharps/flats to the tuning section?

[@ConnorRileyMusic]

Would love to see latching mode in a future update!

[@ThadoesanMM]

Can i try it and shoot a review? I’m so stroked for this and make a review track.

[@MrPaperdude1]

very cool 🤘 i wonder how this could sound on pop punk...?

[@Falscord]

Is it possible to set bend range to 4 semitones? I like to bend 3 semitones especially to emphasize phrygian dominant or harmonic minor

[@SolemnTones]

Currently the bend range is set in stone, but in our coming Odin 3.1 update, we are adding a bend intensity knob that lets you change this.

[@DAUBSKI]

The keyswitches how to use them without the keyswitch sounding aswell?

[@SolemnTones]

Is it possible your daw lists the keyswitch numbers differently? (the keyswitches do not make sound, so perhaps it’s the wrong octave numbering if you’re on Reaper or FL studio)

[@DAUBSKI]

@@SolemnTones Sry i was not looking good, it works fine , thx for reacting

[@remochiun266]

Is there a setting for how far bends go and is there a release bend? Like if I want to bend up a whole step and release it back down to the original note. Is that in there or do I need to use pitch automation in the daw?

[@SolemnTones]

You’d need to draw it in pitch bend modulation

[@remochiun266]

@@SolemnTones Cool. Thanks for answering. Thing sounds sick. You did a wonderful job.

[@Dysomniah]

Can't wait to try it, huge thumb's up ! 🏆

[@WforWrath]

Thank you! this is a massive upgrade!

[@Basu117]

Can't wait to start using this

[@restingbonkface]

Wish I could post images as comments so I could post that meme Fry saying "Shut up and take my money!" I fucking love you guys

[@vicodinvictim]

I just bought Odin 3 and I love it. I'm new to using midi guitar so I'm sure I'm just doing something wrong but when I switch it to DI and add a guitar amp sim the panning seems to go from wide to narrow. How would I go about fixing this? Thanks!

[@SolemnTones]

it’s possible your amp sim is set to mono output? bias fx can do this, for example

[@vicodinvictim]

@@SolemnTones Ok I'll check it! Thanks!

[@codexstudios]

Also, is there a way to change pitch bend range for the pitch wheel?

[@SolemnTones]

Afraid not! Is this a feature you'd want to see?

[@codexstudios]

+2 -2 bends are very usable, but in some fringe cases I'd like to be able to go +12 for those ridiculous thall high notes without needing an external pitch shifter.

[@SolemnTones]

@@codexstudios I will add it to our feature requests :)

[@LosingFaithMusic]

Why do I feel my life just got easier

[@TonyToneBone56-ho9op]

Its badass!!! Once you get to fiddling with it and putting time into programing I would go as far as to say it sounds like the real deal. A lot of guitar players refuse to park their pride and admit those sort of things because it's a bit of a kick in the dick, but hey...technology is incredible these days. I got it to basically sound exactly like a really polished modern metal guitar recording. It seems to have this annoying honky frequency in the 600-700Hz area, but that's a very minor complaint and nothing an eq cut can't fix. To my ears anyways. It really is a beast though, excellent job again Solemn Tones 👏

[@SolemnTones]

Thank you! That mid-bump might be coming from the "bridge def" pickup pattern. Do you still have this in the "bridge modern" pickup pattern?

[@TonyToneBone56-ho9op]

@@SolemnTones Switching it to modern tamed it. Thank you for the tip, I feel silly for not thinking of trying that!

[@diostaylow]

Does it have a split coil tone? Hehe

[@jamesmandarino6641]

This program appears to not work with reaper at all because the midi doesn't allow you to go low enough to add hammer ons or slides or anything really feeling like I wasted money big time on this. I would really appreciate some help

[@SolemnTones]

Hi James, Reaper numbers its octaves differently, but the keyswitches are actually still fully available. You'd just have to place the keyswitches in an octave higher. We're addressing this in our 3.1 patch releasing this week, where the numbers will match Reaper as well, but it should already be fully functional keeping this error in mind

[@jamesmandarino6641]

@@SolemnTones I have tried and can't seem to get it to work I am getting ready for a guitar lesson here in a second afterwards I could try sending a video maybe I'm just doing something wrong

[@SolemnTones]

@@jamesmandarino6641 could you contact us by email with your midi file and any screen recordings? I'm sure we can figure this out for you :)

[@cassclips]

Very keen to try this out

[@j-katinfusino4930]

very excited for this.

[@burneraccounthandle]

how do you disable the left or right guitar?

[@SolemnTones]

load guitar 1 or 2 by itself in the preset loader

[@burneraccounthandle]

@ is there a way to do it without using the presets

[@kaboomproduct]

I want to use this but it never sounds good because idk how to use it 😭🙏

[@SolemnTones]

Feel free to send over your midi file/demo through our email so we can see what can be improved/fixed :) You can also join our discord to learn from others and get critiques

[@GIANTENEMYB1RD]

So what you're telling me... is my only personal draw backs/wants of Odin II, .... you've addressed with Odin III? THIS IS A MUST HAVE FOR ME

[@GIANTENEMYB1RD]

Fret markers would be really nice on the display

[@SolemnTones]

They're being added in 3.1 :)

[@CrushingAxes]

Cool dude! Can't wait to try it out! Really nice!!!

[@thecinematicexperience420]

Super stoked for this

[@musicjustice9330]

„Evertune Bridge for maximum Tuning stability“ , it‘s a virtual Instrument , since when Virtual Instruments get out of tune ? I don’t get the point 🤔

[@SolemnTones]

When we recorded the samples, the Evertune ensured the strings don't go sharp on the impact of the pick. This is a big challenge in recording aggressive metal guitars.

[@wimmeltje]

It was used while tracking the samples!

[@musicjustice9330]

@@SolemnTones Awesome 🤩 , i didn’t think about this concrete recording case! Thanks for your Answer! 🤘🏻

[@edgarkreiter638]

great work man

[@MarkDatines]

No taping articulation ? Using hammer on will emulate taping ?

[@SolemnTones]

yes

[@sounakkarmakar-tb8gc]

God bless you \m/

[@MahmoudNader]

A whole new lvl

[@iodfusj]

Is there going to be a cheaper version that's DI only?

[@SolemnTones]

Afraid not

[@davidvierabarreras]

It seems to a "continuation" of the MIGHTY and ABANDONED Heavier7Strings... Great Job Solemn Tones!

[@nobot99997_xxl]

can the developer play real guitar ? I think this midi guitars need a decay time for mutes which can set with a controller so can set decay time(which mean mute pressure depend on music speed) to sound good in gallop rythms. or best is have 8 or more mute strengths to choose. odin 3 have 3 mute strengths i see in videos. many diffrent mute strength need only for 8 7 6 5 strings. also mutes are short so need not much ram space . maybe odin 3 can enhance ? . i have AME ample guitar this allow set of decay time for mutes so can enhance sound alot

[@SolemnTones]

We are adding more palm mute options (as well as decay controls) in our Odin 3.1 update which is dropping soon.

[@nobot99997_xxl]

@@SolemnTones thats good news hope it come soon then i can buy