Is the Trident 660 really that much better than its rivals? - 650cc big boys compared! OVERDRIVE

[@mariomanus3176]

Just bought a z650rs a few days ago as my first big bike from a 110cc scooter. The transition from the small bike to this one is so far very smooth. I am very happy and satisfied at the moment. Considerations for my choice: price, weight, ease of use in congested almost stand still traffic where you compete with small scooters in filtering through, ease of parking in cramped parking spaces, and lastly - look that won’t easily age with time. Since my bikes main purpose is as a daily rider on a slow heavily trafficked commute and won’t be likely used often with speed greater than 60km/h, the exciting but more pricey trident, cbr650 and mt-07/xsr700 would easily be an overkill. The z650’s design is just not fit for my age and imho can age fast. The suzuki offerings (sv650) in my area are still outdated (still with non-LED lamps and poor visibility LCD displays) and pricey. A lot of cheaper Chinese offerings are also available in my locality (Benilli, CFMoto) but not in my consideration since they still have to prove their reliability. RE models are not available in my locality. The z650rs somehow hit the spot for these requirements. The small fuel tank doesn’t make it top heavy even when full and combined with it’s tuning for low and midrange torque makes it very light and agile for filtering in stand still cramped traffic.

[@karthikd03]

Look that won't easily age with time - because it's already having an old look lol

[@akilghosh]

You are just justifying your buy. Anyways congrats

[@mariomanus3176]

@@akilghosh Thank you. Actually, I researched extensively before I bought my bike so it's not rationalization of a decision made. I know what I need and what I want. And this bike fits that and is a choice that I can be happy with😉. With the availability of so many makes and models, it's what is important for any prospective buyers imho. My wife preferred and was pushing for a Ducati or a BMW over this bike btw.

[@venukrithish007]

110 to 650 is a big jump dude not to mention a scooter

[@mariomanus3176]

@@venukrithish007 really made me hesitant to this jump for a long time. Made the purchase after a video by McRider regarding riding skills development as an important requirement in choosing your next bike. That prior bike size won’t matter if you have developed the necessary skills.

[@saurabhmuneshwar]

As yamaha fan, yamaha India is really poor at marketing their high performance bikes they only target below 2 lakh bikes despite they have absolute beauty Plus beast bikes

[@McvlogforPh]

kzbin.infomultibrandmotorcycle

[@vaibhavhalgekar914]

So true.... Even suzuki is absent 🙏

[@bonjovi1354]

@@vaibhavhalgekar914 suzuki is same everywhere and they don't have that much of newer collection

[@pauld.b7129]

If I lived in India, I dont think I'd buy a bike for more than that. So many options in India, why pay 2-3x more when you really can't use it. I'd be riding a nice 125 if I lived over there, seems like plenty and a good value..

[@bonjovi1354]

@@pauld.b7129 no dirt bikes in here ..can't modify bikes custom bikes not allowed and we have indian standard product ... 😑 Quality becomes heavy

[@SureshRides16]

I have done nearly 5100kms in my Trident 660 am Happy with the overall Performance of the Bike.

[@huka83]

How's the suspension?is it too stiff to tour on to?

[@SureshRides16]

@@huka83 Its on the softer side but we can adjust it.

[@McvlogforPh]

kzbin.infomultibrandmotorcycle

[@McvlogforPh]

kzbin.infomultibrandmotorcycle

[@getanand321]

How is the wind blast on highways? What kind of cruising speeds do you do usually?

[@biprarshichakraborty1255]

Have been eyeing the 650R for a while now as my first big bike. Hope can pull it off by next 2 years, provided they keep this thing of beauty in production lines.

[@varun_shankar]

did you buy it yet?

[@slimsin6049]

These are all nice bikes, but I have always had a good eye for the Honda.

[@reclusiarch4622]

yeah cb650R FTW, have mine for over a year now and enjoying every moment with it at 19000kms now and haven't had any issues so far :))

[@nanid6320]

Is it cheaper to maintain compared to the rest?

[@rpuneeth4014]

How is the throttle sound

[@ronaldomsjr]

2 years later and still relevant for me as I'm deciding between exactly those bikes :) Thanks for the review.

[@The_hermit_kama]

The honda is an inline-4 with a 180-degree crank, Triumph an inline-3 and the Kawi a parallel twin with a 180-degree crank. These are the founding factors in making the characteristics of the bike and in turn defines the nature of the machine. The Triumph is a contemporary Moto-2 representing bike. The honda is of the previous-gen when version moto-2 used honda's engine, whereas the Kawi is predominantly retro only in looks. So it really just depends on which era of bikes you'd like to get into and not necessarily about the price when it comes to bikes in my humble opinion. For someone like me who grew up in the 90s and early 2000s, the Honda inline-4 650 is the dream. So I think motorcycles are more about passion rather than cost and practicality. I would gladly pay more for that extra cylinder. P.S The Ducati Panigale V-twin also falls in this category of retro bikes.

[@DayumSonny]

For the people choosing the Z650, CHANGE THE TIRES. It makes a world of difference, especially in less than perfect conditions. The stock Dunlops are crap. Taller riders need to get a thicker seat to increase the saddle height. Thank me later.

[@AdventureAndBikes]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZzXZJt-ft9popo

[@ReySChasey]

Absolutely beautifully crafted reviews, from the soundtrack delivery, volume control and information delivery!

[@stevendavis7079]

Have a Trident 660 and its a terrific bike. As a mature experienced rider I found the suspension a little harsh and was my only criticism of an otherwise great package. I have uprated the front with a Maxton GP20 cartridge and the rear with shock factory unit. Now I have premium suspension and its still cheaper than the Honda.

[@sarathjuly11]

Absolutely right.

[@shaun374]

Spot on. I will say I've gotten used to the more rigid suspension. It's definitely a shock to go over some of the bigger potholes from time to time we have up here in MN. You just have to accept it's tuned for better cornering and not cruising around in luxury (despite most things on the bike being far, and I mean FAR, higher end than most of the competition). But a suspension change/upgrade isn't the worst idea in the world. I have thought about changing out the seat, though. haha

[@firstperspective9131]

Height?😊

[@keshavpandey6417]

I simply love your points table in each of your videos... It put things in to prospective so well and makes so much sense Great video 👍

[@ade531001gmail]

They're a great heads up so our hearts don't bias us from manufacturer's past reputation

[@siddraj2002]

Good to see how far things have come in terms of bike availability and gear! ... remember the days of RSA? Great video Rohit

[@saleh-dt3qj]

That Kawasaki 650 RS is a perfect bike only problem is the engine's configuration which makes it sounds worse than a single cylinder

[@coolkatz9012]

How u come up with that inline 4 to a single ?!

[@chrishart8548]

I saw a kle500 today. I knew it just from the sound. I had a gpz500s myself it's 180° crankshaft but sounds so unique. Not in a good way.

[@mikedomingo23]

honda cb650r 👑

[@tonydare7614]

Very good comparison. I've ordered a Trident in Paris, simply because I almost never get to use the top end and do a lot of urban riding. The Kawasaki is the best looking for me. In an ideal world, we'd probably all have 5 bikes in our garage.

[@Zbroja69]

Did you consider mt07 or sv650? they are very torquey at low revs, especially mt07.

[@tonydare7614]

@@Zbroja69 yes, but I prefer the Triumph. In the end, I'm going to trade for a Zero FXE 🤣

[@wurf5336]

wtf how have I never seen this channel before? Awesome content guys! Hope to see more intermidiate naked bike content :D

[@f.i.l.d.e.p.s]

very interesting how different reviews from different countries showcase different points in terms of needs. seldom to none western countries talk about pillon let alone pillon comfort.

[@neosmith166]

Japanese manufacturers continue to hamstring their offerings in the India market. I don't like that they underestimate Indian market potential and bring in such small variety compared to other countries. I hope our Indian motorcycle companies apart from RE enter the space for 500cc+ segment soon and completely make other foreign brands who stereotypically offered brands for "third world country" to get wiped out.

[@coolkatz9012]

Perhaps look at government interference protecting local manafactures ..

[@YouTuber-lb9ot]

Both are excellent bikes, would like to buy Trident but don't know when.. I am 40, still could afford Splendor.. 😬

[@Anjankumar222]

Same here brother

[@chopsandarchie7015]

I love Triumph's triples; the torque and top end are both there and they sound great.

[@summerslider2487]

Yes. The headlight design looks so bad tho

[@dhiraj0212]

Very informative and need more reviews like this ❤

[@ParaBellum2024]

What on Earth were you thinking at 7:30? Is it normal to force other vehicles to swerve out of the way so you can overtake into a stream of traffic?

[@canuck81]

I think that's normal in India

[@papaiganguly1889]

the best mid segment comparison ever 👌

[@thangavelkannant81]

Excellent overview of these bikes !!

[@aravindbnr]

Honda did base the cb300 r on the 650 r but made it a lot smaller, wish honda could beef up the cb 300r to a better size.

[@fguimara]

In the acceleration from 30-70 in 3rd gear, it looks like you decided to take the shine off the Triumph. Gotcha ya!

[@fguimara]

By the way, in a comparative 0-100 kmph test between Trident 660 and Z650, by a specialized magazine in Brazil, the results were 3.32s and 3.59s, respectively. In other words, the difference was much greater. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKDCd6VqZsqmmrs

[@mindspinn311]

How is the MT-07 not in this test but you have two nearly identical Kawasaki’s?

[@amvj]

That is not in sale in India.

[@mindspinn311]

@@amvj That is a shame.

[@amvj]

@@mindspinn311 Yamaha India has a weird bunch of people. :(

[@mindspinn311]

@@amvj They seem like lovely people for the majority. Millions of motorcycle enthusiasts, most of them poor but happy.

[@TechnoTweet]

I bought Street Triple R and happy with it. More Power.

[@raghavtank6381]

Best looking Meter console is on Z650RS I just love how 2 needles swipe up 😍😍

[@satgul]

Even the gt 650

[@chrishart8548]

@@satgul what is a gt650 ? Suzuki?

[@subhammohapatra7987]

royal enfield continental 650 gt

[@akilghosh]

Let's drown the engine note and sound with loud music. That's what our viewers love

[@arvinamurao8505]

Watching from the 🇵🇭 great review 💯

[@shifujiyt9724]

I love people on this channel just what I hate is camera angels, cinematics n all

[@bikegeist]

You're spot on with every single one of your observations on these bikes. And by that I mean I have the same opinion. :D Excellent overview of these bikes. I'm a massive fan of the Kawasaki Z series, but I'm a Honda GB350S owner and a brand new rider. Maybe my next bike will be a Z.

[@yinyangthang]

Excellent review. Thank you!

[@MrDsheel]

The Trident reminds me of Pulsar classic 180, one with the round headlight. No surprise since Bajaj & Triumph are into a partnership.

[@abymathew295]

How on earth a person can possibly sit as a pillion on the Trident. Whats wrong with these guys not to increase the length of the seat to couple of more inches...🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@dmitryc760]

I'm in love for looks of both cb650r and z650rs, ideally both bikes needs to be in my garage, however as a returning rider Honda is concerning me a bit. How would you say both of them for a beginner, which one would you recommend for mixed city/freeway riding? Thank you in advance for the response.

[@sureshmanne7245]

You could have included RE650 twins and shown us where do they stand in comparison and where do they loose out

[@hanu0913]

@@xxneggalee2785 lol, thats a hell of straight answer

[@BharatJusta]

They're a lot cheaper and built to a price point. They're different bikes altogether. Easy to maintain on your own, just try to change an air filter in any one of these. And the service reach is incredible. I live in a rural area in Himachal and there is an authorised RE service centre right in town. And general mechanics can easily do maintenance jobs too. RE Twins are more like workhorse bikes. You ride them anywhere and don't have to worry about repairs. Plus they're intentionally underpowered to make them easily accessible to beginner riders and A2 license holders in UK. Interceptor has won retro bike of the year award in UK in 2020. In UK! The home of Triumph motorcycles. That tells you a lot about how impressed the brits are with Indian built RE Twins. Of course, there are more powerful, faster and lighter 650cc bikes out there. And people will buy a bike according to there preferences. But if you want to buy a cheap, classic, low maintenance, great sounding, good looking bike, then either of the RE 650s is going to be a good choice.

[@random_cocaine4667]

you should compare them to 400cc bikes since they are RETRO & can get away with having extra cc(s) because of their weight Triumph does this too with bonnovilles eve though they are 1000+ cc their weight to performance is close to 650 to 800 cc Japanese bikes; so to sum it up you should compare RE 650 twins to KTM Duke 390 BMW310 etc

[@justlookingaround9834]

Nice review, but who did the dodgy overtaking?

[@Triumph_Trident660cc_Boy]

Out of yall of them with factory exhaust the triple sounds the best

[@desidudev]

Yet another meaningful comparo by none other than OD with Rash_Rp!

[@advprasanthb]

Great comparison & great location? Where is the location?

[@L1qu1dC00L]

Excellent video

[@melwyndavid7181]

How I wish MT-07 is in the competition.

[@kawthooleidevelopers]

In Australia, Honda CB650R is the best value for money in my opinion. It is sitting at $12k+. Mt07 and RS660 are sitting at $13k+. Z650 is also at $12k but for another 2k you can get Z900.

[@GoodBalak]

Ok, so you guys are forgetting why we want to buy these bikes in the first place. It needs to perform as well as look the part. Trident 660 just looks "smol" when you sit on it. Add the Ninja 650 and CB"R" 650R to the mix and all other pale in comparison. We want a big bike, one that would command respect among 2 wheelers and one that is also capable of long hauls, quick pickup and a lot of fun. I thought the Z650 and CB 650R are nice naked motorcycles, but I sure was not able to ignore the Ninja 650 that stole my heart on first sight.

[@iminyomomsbed]

I have a trident, trust me it is not small. It is compact, but it is not small! I have test rode all of these motorcycles and trident easily sounds the best. People hear it when you pass by and will look at you unlike the other bikes. Also, it is gorgeous and British. I fell in love immediately with the trident which did not happen when i rode the other bikes mentioned here, so I bought it.

[@GoodBalak]

@@iminyomomsbed Have you ever tried a Ninja or maybe a Honda CB 650R? Try one of them, and then your bike one after the other. I felt it because I test rode them before buying. If you still feel the Trident is big enough, then good for you! You're the target audience for this bike!

[@iminyomomsbed]

@@GoodBalak yes I tried the ninja 650 and the CBR 650R. These bikes are a different segment, full fairing sport bikes. So they are definitely bigger, no doubt. But you can't compare them with these naked bikes. Ninja 650 is a good bike, only thing I didn't like the sound, in fact it makes almost no sound 😂. CBR is too expensive. But yeah these bikes are bigger because of the full fairing, but they are more uncomfortable to ride for long periods of time. Anyways my advice if you are looking for a naked, overall best for the price is the trident and best overall is the CB 650R but it's too expensive to make sense.

[@GoodBalak]

@@iminyomomsbed True about the sound only for lower rpms. You can hear a lot after 6k rpm. Agreed that the CBR sounds much better, but it's way too overpriced for how much power it makes. Would rather add a little more and buy a Ninja 1000sx instead. But the Trident doesn't sound loud either... I even have GoPro recordings of my test ride. I'll reply with a link here later.

[@iminyomomsbed]

@@GoodBalak sounds good thanks, honestly I feel the best bike in a range between 8 to 11.5 lakhs is a Kawasaki z900. Best bang for the buck, big bike feel and big bike power.

[@nutashkotwal8955]

What about the RE interceptor ????

[@sarveshgovalkar]

Good comparison. But the video resolution / quality is too poor. i mean c'mon guys, you're OVERDRIVE team. you can definitely try for 4K videos with good quality camera.

[@UnicornRiderNarresh]

The management don't allow for professional cinematographer and professional camera equipment. Management belives in cost cutting.

[@sarveshgovalkar]

@@UnicornRiderNarresh oh.. that will be LOL moment here ! New youtubers with some 100k subs. are doing good quality videos. even iPhone is way too good for videos rather than a dedicated camera setup. But its really a STRANGE after reading your comment.

[@elemental9039]

You forgot about the big daddies of sales figures... the RE 650 Twins.

[@xpusostomos]

Curious that you say the Trident could be boring, but the Rocketman channel says all the others are boring except the Trident.

[@mircea5013]

Drove both the cb650r and the Trident 660, as a beginner. Just got my license. First on the Trident. Loved it, it has character, that's the word. Character. Didn't feel refined though. Then on the Honda. Instantly, the Honda felt mature. Felt less like a toy, heavier, more planted. Somehow, I found myself cruising at higher speed on the Honda - for some reason. Maybe it felt more stable? I don't know. 2 days later, thinking on which bike I want to buy.. They're both kind of small for me, that's the issue. But I look better on the Trident somehow. I think that Honda tries to look like a big bike and isn't quite a big bike. The Trident knows it's a small bike, looks like one, and owns it. hhh... mixed feelings all around: because of that brilliant sound, unfortunately, I just feel like I'll be going faster on the Honda, because it simply "asks" you to. But it doesn't have the Trident's character. Which isn't as refined as the Honda. But maybe that's what makes it special. You decide. I couldn't as of now.

[@jasonconstantine1811]

After struggling with a 2012 Ninja 650R for 2 years and 12,000 miles I will never own a Kawasaki road bike ever again. It was so uninspiring. So glad I went with a 765R over a Z900

[@jboy2621]

Man I'm in love with the 650RS

[@ritayudh4208]

Any update about the KTM Duke 390 2022 and Duke 490 launch?

[@HunterVlog350cc]

where is the leader-650 twins

[@johntheaccountant5594]

I am finding some of the best reviews are from India.

[@divakarownz3916]

What about vibratios please explain

[@ChakraVart1]

These bikes make me realise what an eyesore the sari guard is

[@dalesharpy9197]

Triumph... HELL NO ON BUILT IN THE UK. My Speed Triple gave me freaking electrical nightmares several times. They replaced the whole electrical harness and it still melted fuses!!! What a bunch of BS... loved the bike until that happened. So bad I had to sell it and bought a used Yamaha FZ1 which has been just a beauty!!! The CB650 is an inline 4......the Kawasaki is a Parallel Twin..... .....HONDA would be my choice in this category.

[@bassyey]

I'll pick the Japanese. I heard parts are cheaper and more available in my country. Also, I'm a beginner.

[@peddusaipraveen9216]

I have no idea about motorcycles, so just asking, why there is no interceptor

[@brendonfernandes2877]

Because it doesn't belong in these class of bikes. It's a lot slower and the fit and finish is way below these bikes

[@rakesh3967]

I couldn't agree more with you 👍🏻

[@javiervar494]

Good job 👍

[@cruze86]

Honda is the best in this comparison because of its driving dynamics.

[@Anjuraj]

What’s the jacket you are wearing?

[@qwertyme8338]

Looks like Dianese jacket, 25k+ price

[@Anjuraj]

@@qwertyme8338 it’s revit.. pretty expensive

[@jjoshua99]

I'm not sure on the plates infront though.

[@one277]

Should of done a sit on the seat comparison. Not just tell the height of the seat. I agree. It was between the honda and triumph for me. I choose the triumph bc of the extra four the price.

[@antonholovnitskyy779]

Suzuki SV650(X), Yamaha MT07(XSR700)?!

[@brendonfernandes2877]

Not available in India so we can't compare them

[@bharathmedala]

Trident is good but gets very hot Honda radiator does good job in comparison coz heat is the main problem in this nakeds..

[@shaun374]

My Trident doesn't get hot at all. Not sure what you're talking about.

[@two_wanderedsouls]

The kawasaki is really pretty but I wish they would make the exhaust like the old z1 have high exhausts on both side

[@arunk9510]

please do a video for 900cc naked bikes

[@BikeSounds]

Does anyone even buy Z650RS? I expected it to be a hit, but have only seen one on road here in Australia so far. I wish they gave couple of more color options.

[@brendonfernandes2877]

It's selling in small numbers. The out of place exhaust really detracts. I saw one out for testing and couldn't figure out which bike it was and then saw the exhaust and recognized it to be the Z650 exhaust which looked way out of place on an otherwise beautiful bike

[@deathtomorons9388]

Yeah people do buy them a lot. Kawasaki sells a ton of bikes per year. And this bike is also one of the many that Kawasaki sells like there is no tomorrow.

[@stilldajoker]

styling? --- the Trident gets one more point for not having that "nose--drip" license plate mount.

[@gunman9131]

You dont know what youre talking about. There are countries that REQUIRE having the plate in front and at the back as well. Yeah. You did not search or even ask question. You only OPENED your mouth. Thats why YOU DONT KNOW.

[@PRANAY6969]

Why interceptor 650 is not compared with these sports bike

[@nerdion1911]

It is really funny how intercepter and continental don't even make the list

[@bamboostick5]

The downshifts and blips on the trident are just not good enough. Rev matching is hard af below 4k rpm and below 2k rpm the bike really likes to stall while clutching.

[@OlivierGandou]

That overtake at 7:33 scared me!

[@BikeSounds]

Hi guys, You missed to include the bikes which are much better than these: Suzuki SV650, Yamaha XSR700 and MT 07.

[@ramkrishnasamratnookala3062]

@satwant singh they are not on sale in India

[@BikeSounds]

@Ramkrishna Samrat Nookala Yes, I realised that after posting my comment 😅.

[@dry509]

Doesn’t the Trident get hot?

[@ferdiebeer3092]

Should have included the XSR700 instead of the Z650, as it's based on the class-leading MT07 platform! It might have performed better than the Z650RS too!

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodguy]

XSR700 is not available in India

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

I see the cb650r comparison a lot and every time I can’t help but think ... it’s not really in that class..... the truth is it’s Z900/gsx-s750 money, and at that price it sucks. I can get a new trident with add ons for less than the Honda is used, and the same features can’t even be added on.

[@deathtomorons9388]

No. It's absolutely worth the money cause it's a sports bike.

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

It’s more money and missing 30hp. The mt-09 - 200 dollars more than the cb650r - 37 hp more - 6 axis imu....

[@davea9946]

Not in Australia. The Z650 is $12.2K Cb650r is $12.8 k Trident $13.1k. and the Z650RS $13.3k.

[@yuvrajrana5404]

do better color grading please, would make the video more enjoyable while watching, it looks like it was shot on a phone

[@AeroSpMaven]

Listen to this @3:37 min of the video "take a listen"? Does it mean something? Or just a glitch. Anyway the Honda is a great bike.

[@debanjanbanerjee1706]

What about ninja650?

[@madhusudhanasharma9082]

@overdrive hi 👋 what do you think about CF MOTO 650NK Plz tell me

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodguy]

Shit 🤢

[@CTR2K]

Interceptor 650 is also a worthy contender

[@prathaps848]

Yes, OD must have included re650

[@akshayakumarbehera5840]

Actually no competition with RE twins.. 3.5 lakhs budget best twin cylinder engine IMO

[@sungmaa4345]

yes because of its affordability people get a honda trident the price of interceptor they never look at the Interceptor 650 anymore🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mucho02]

Love my Trident

[@shannonrego6517]

legend rohit is back

[@cjk9242]

Upcoming Duke 490 will blow the competition with its VFM tag... 😀

[@prathaps848]

Ktms are no longer VFM....sad but true

[@bikergenetics]

Cb650r 23kmph in 6th gear

[@umakantkumar7457]

Honda is the most beautiful, I would take is just for looks

[@prorider4992]

No usd in z650

[@yatrikashish]

Bro, the Interceptor 650 sells more than than all these four combined.....many times over. That's my baby!!

[@AdventureAndBikes]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZzXZJt-ft9popo

[@hanu0913]

yes because of its affordability, but build quality and performance is subpar when compared with triumph and honda

[@sungmaa4345]

yes because of its affordability people get a honda trident the price of interceptor they never look at the Interceptor 650 anymore🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@涛哥涛哥-i1p]

So,where are yamaha xsr700 and Suzuki sv650? This comparison is not fair. Honda is too expensive and Kawasaki 650s are not good enough.

[@borisrz3080]

Not available in their market.

[@norbertovillarealiii6750]

The MT-07/xsr700 will blow these toddlers out of the water.

[@alfredkhoo1353]

That why they didn't include it 🤭

[@borisrz3080]

Not available in their market…

[@xtc2v]

An upswept exhaust on the Kawasaki would interfere with fitting a deep pannier. These bikes are not copies of any retro models (otherwise they would have twin shocks and wire spoke wheels like the Gold Star) so why are you referring back to old model?

[@teej1987]

You're wrong. Cute

[@northeastev]

I'm sorry. This is not a good video on how to clean it. You have some great safety tips but you are making a mass with over spraying the rear tire with you chain lube. You can use some cardboard as a barrier to separate the wheel and chain. And I would not use any water while doing chain maintenance. Just my 5c.

[@yoroptics]

Short answer - No. The 660 was quite underwhelming, as compared to say the Honda at the top or KZ at the bottom end of things.

[@aroy8731]

You didn't say anything about tridents suspension

[@prathaps848]

Intentional?

[@aroy8731]

@@prathaps848 maybe, also no mention of their clutch feels, I've heard trident has a stiff clutch.

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

I hear it’s buttery smooth, but then I hear the fueling/throttle is strange.... then I hear it’s perfect..... you gotta go ride each to know.

[@hanu0913]

@@aroy8731 yes it bit stiff for city use, once you used to it you will be fine