Persona 3 FES - Secret Boss: Elizabeth (Hard)

[@RadiataStories1]

Elizabeth: I know several ways of inflicting pain. *hits with her book*

[@sendylie1774]

Makoto: *reflects attack*

[@fjordon87]

This is Elizabeth we're talking about here

[@softdentsu]

Sendy Lie I remember seeing you on Jotaro Vs. Anubis. Nice to meet you again

[@noticeme6412]

yet her melee is stronger than Nyx’s strongest attack

[@W.2026]

*hits with her book* BAKA BAKA BAKAAAA

[@GameGuyandLuLuPink]

"If you can't push it, pull it" "If you can't pull it, Megidolaon"

[@alphakenny1620]

If you can't Megidolaon, Armageddon

[@General_C]

If you can't Armageddon... Well, your absolute fucked.

[@adinatamuhamadmuchsinmuchs1887]

True

[@theinfamousguil]

armageddon only works on half hp

[@theinfamousguil]

when liz is at half hp (10000) you cannot get absolute fucked. well if you survive another 10000 hp at least. 😀

[@JyujinPlus]

See it’s funny about the ‘must fight alone’ requirement. Because Elizabeth doesn’t refuse the fight if you bring your friends. She just kills you. Meaning shes still holding back in this fight

[@prettyplease1879]

you kinda take her by surprise using armageddon before she feels like she's starting to be in a pinch anyways

[@ultragamer4465]

yeah by simple power scaling the attendants are infinitely powerful. they lack creativity and strategy which the protag has. We fight to convey that feeling

[@hardcopetillo69]

@@ultragamer4465 im not sure if they're infinitely powerfull than us, but since we can fuse and use spells by using two personas at once, maybe they arent like gods, they may have that potential, but since some of them aren't that much of adults (except margaret, of course) that could explain why we can fight them, even if we are just someone who has a special power.

[@seunghoonyu6863]

Actually, the reason she one shots you is because the party has a null skill. Take them early on when they haven't upgraded their personas and she doesn't auto-spam megidolaon. Never tried beating it with them cause they are at best canon fodder and worst extra turns for her so never tried beating her with the party.

[@oldcat1790]

@@seunghoonyu6863 well, it still means she can megidolaon infinitely but chooses not to, to give you a chance

[@Le_Dom]

Elizabeth: deals more damage by throwing a card at you than Nyx does with his strongest attack.

[@noticeme6412]

Nyx’s strongest attack is Night Queen, isn’t it?

[@17madman39]

Yeah but Nyxs strongest attack charms you and makes you heal nyx to full health

[@cantufekci23]

17madman not if you have narcissus flower accessory on everyone that has diarahan in their skill list

[@flonnetheangeltrainee1713]

@@cantufekci23 The Tome of the Void is better for everyone

[@johnboona4048]

@@17madman39 Not gonna work if you have Unshaken Will

[@Mattyjp28]

You can tell a lot about a person by the music he chooses to listen to in Tartarus.

[@carnagewolf1]

I like the Persona bgm

[@tenkuken7168]

persona 2 is the legend

[@1010otep]

he playing a real shin megoomi tensay game dude

[@A_Weegee_Board]

What if I mute the game and listen to podcasts on my phone? lol

[@Mattyjp28]

@@A_Weegee_Board I would guess that it means you're tired of hearing the same songs on repeat 🤣 I don't remember posting this comment at all lol

[@SpecterReaper]

Elizabeth: Please fight the opponent alone. Also Elizabeth: **Uses "Ma" skills**

[@DoNotSuiciniv]

Guarantee

[@SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC]

Single target skills kinda hurts more though. So she's putting in a restriction for herself.

[@comunisman4368]

Just flexing

[@asad9414]

Elizabeth's Ma-dyne spells are actually modified and different than the ones you have access to, even though they look the exact same. They deal much more damage than the regular ones. Edit: source: gamefaqs.gamespot.com/psp/971508-shin-megami-tensei-persona-3-portable/faqs/64770

[@Honest-King]

@@SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC How ??

[@OpXarxa]

The real hardest part about this fight is actually getting orpheus telos with a workable skillset.

[@kratosgow09]

The painful memory of spending too much time shuffling skills in the velvet room. Gives me conniptions!

[@Alan-cm7ye]

I must satisfied with 7 skills. I want to change Akasha Arts with Salvation, but it's too random. Akasha Arts still useful for random enemies, thought.

[@ZX-Gear]

I have only gotten 6/8 skills once and even then it was a suboptimal build. The Death Arcana gives me the most headaches with Skill Noise. Seriously. Atlus should have given Persona 3 Fes the Golden Treatment.

[@opadrip]

Just imagine fighting Igor himself...

[@jamesa.646]

opalander He's pretty weak,

[@kazenna]

SPOILERJNMEAFOIJASDOIF No you don't, even if there's a slight relationship.

[@claudiolancia319]

what are you looking at? ... Well, not exactly.

[@mosh6292]

What are you looking at no but in persona 5 (Spoilers) The igor that you will fight is a god of control which is evil that took control of his body

[@102xxScorpionxx102]

Try Philemon

[@SpecterReaper]

"I apologize in- UHH UUUUU" "A token of my- NYERGH"

[@claudiolancia319]

"You get a Megidolaon, you also get a Megidolaon, everyone gets a Megidolaon!"

[@romiarkan450]

Unlike in 4 and 5, this is the only Velvet Room attendant boss fight which strictly demands that it must be one-on-one.

[@Observe-h1t]

And has so many rules we have to follow or else, she one-shot you

[@TheRawyan]

@@Observe-h1t *Laughs in Lavenza*

[@kratosgow09]

Requires extensive preparation, and a deep knowledge of the game's battle mechanics. If you screw up your turns, you're done! Margaret, Caroline/Justine and Lavenza are much more forgiving.

[@soba.]

like you couldve won with the p3fes dogwater ai anyway with the dumb rules you have to follow to beat her anyway lol

[@Morichoradio]

@@TheRawyan *Laughs in its so easy I can just myriad truths her ass*

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

I know I've commented here before, but here are some key differences with this fight in _Portable:_ -Skill cards exist to cut down the unnecessary time (and frustration) in the Velvet Room, and there are only a few skills that don't have cards. -Fusion spells exist as items. While you do need gems for them, you don't need the Personas tied to them anymore. Infinity and Armageddon are just as necessary, but Best Friends is also viable (IMO) because of this change. -The Paradigm Door (which appears in Tartarus' entrance in January) has powered-up versions of the previous Full Moon bosses (top row) and a few other challenges. You can get some pretty sweet rewards from these, including some of the aforementioned Fusion...items, skill cards, top-tier Incense Cards, Homonculus, and gems.

[@reimumario4733]

also in portable you can dodge elizabeth's attacks so equipment that increases magic evasion or skills like angelic grace are good to use

[@mizzix]

@@reimumario4733 you can't in fes?

[@reimumario4733]

@@mizzix yeah that's why using the divine pillar in fes is very important

[@bagasadipramana5089]

In fes you can dodge, i use barbaric bracers during this fight. But it's riskier than using divine pillar

[@ZX-Gear]

I prefer not having to grind for my Fusion Spells. Thank you.

[@genericusernamelast8914]

Gets hit by book Strike Attack *takes 213 dmg*

[@ulime]

431 dmg

[@TheKewlPerson]

So I guess Elizabeth summons personas Persona 4 style

[@gitgud3245]

No she move the cards she dont brak them

[@theinfamousguil]

r/youngpeopleyoutube

[@pablo_giustiniani]

@@theinfamousguil r/Ihavereddit

[@vority2860]

@@pablo_giustiniani r/ialsohavereddit

[@antonywu6672]

@Renato Barros r/Ihaveredditaswell

[@janussimonsen24]

Elizabeth: I apologize in advance. Misato: THAT DOESN’T MAKE IT HURT ANY LE... Oh wait, never mind. Time to solo win!

[@Reevro]

the letter s is nowhere near the letter n, how could you let that typo slide?

[@KeepWalking2500]

@@Reevro weirder shit has happened in persona~

[@lucassworldofletsplays9270]

The music for this fight is called Unavoidable Battle, but this battle can in fact be avoided. How? *By not accepting the quest.*

[@СашаБланкОтветов]

Или просто отказавшись сражаться с ней, уже прямо на вершине монада

[@johnboona4048]

This fight involves some luck with the rng of high counter iirc. You need it to go off on her second turn because if it doesn't and you deal enough damage she will cast diarahan on herself when her hp falls below the 9999 damage threshold.

[@muhammadsyaugiarif1984]

when saw that first time " what a jerk move"

[@mak_707]

10 minutes into the ultimate battle and she fully heals

[@ZX-Gear]

That is if you fail the Armageddon Vibe Check.

[@F3Krnn]

I wish they gave her own theme or "Battle for everyone's souls"

[@ArclightLuna]

To be fair I feel this song fits

[@KA-qv7be]

@@ArclightLuna unavoidable battle is nice, but to be fair, you could easily miss this fight. So it's a little ironic to listen to while attacking Elizabeth.

[@sirkinsella9831]

Honestly, They give Battle for Everyone's Souls as her theme in the fighting game. If your aware.

[@BitchChill]

Battle for everyone's souls definitely would've fit

[@Aerodeth]

I dont mind. I think giving her the boss theme for Evil Jesus's crew is rather fitting.

[@notspiderman4158]

11:06 you got so lucky if she had attacked with a Slash etc attack after you got shocked you would be dead

[@cunnyman]

He got lucky wayyyy too many times in this video. He would've died in many of these occasions.

[@Alan-cm7ye]

Gasp! Look out!

[@thefunkyfish5640]

@@cunnyman I can only imagine how many attempts this guy did that were less fortunate. You have you get so lucky so survive this fight

[@seanbenedictpacquiao3445]

True

[@anonimonovids]

When You get shocked/frozen/petrified phys attacks deal triple damage, right?

[@RegalPixelKing]

Well it took me more than 2 FUCKING YEARS, but I finally bested her. It feels awesome to know that I have finally finished everything that Persona 3 has to offer.

[@dharmairmansyah2844]

Try to fight margaret in p3p

[@ItzAeternus]

Dharma Irmansyah in persona 4?

[@GGsJane]

@@ItzAeternus nah you can fight Margaret in persona 3 portable when you unlock the desert of doors

[@JustPersephone-o5w]

"Try to kill me if you can." -gets repelled by her own attack-

[@tyknight2488]

I used to think when she said "I have chosen" that she said "I have chills"

[@evitsu4405]

Same

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

"A token of my apprecia-"; "I apologize in adva-" **High Counter** 9:20 667 damage! I'm assuming that triggering the 9999-damage Megidolaon via breaking rules is not a one-and-done deal, even with the turn limit. Right? Because there's only so long you can keep casting Infinity. Using Armageddon is pretty damn risky, because you have to be *absolutely certain* that Elizabeth is below 10,000 HP in order to use it, otherwise she retaliates with *that* Megidolaon. It's still satisfying to finish her off with an attack that awesomely equals its power, though!

[@zaqareemalcolm]

AzoriusGamer if u wanna be safe and a little extra, you can have a calculator on hand to tally damage lmao

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

You realize I have calculator *apps* on my computers, right? I also play through the PS2 emulator PCSX2.

[@Smoketrees1969]

She has 20000 hp so just use armagedon when her bar is below half isn it?

[@Gothaman1]

The only way he could match her power in megidolaon was with 2 personas...but thats still quite impressive

[@Reilly-K]

Is it just me, or is that version of Maya's theme strangely appropriate for the protag's interactions with Elizabeth, both before and after battle? It's... melancholy... and I find that oddly fitting, for whatever reason.

[@salmonfish4829]

1:02 “Yes. I am referring to myself.” You also seem to be carrying yourself.

[@fanreader7847]

Just realized, her attacks were a hint for persona 4 card mechanic of summoning

[@purplekiller2429]

And people say twins from p5 is hard

[@limpeng7638]

Elizabeth is essentially a slightly nerfed version of demi fiend considering how many 'rules' she has in place. The absence of such rules such as null/repel/absorb persona, not to mention being able to use your full party against them+ OP sune really makes the twins much less of a challenge compared to Lizzie.

[@mellamosteve331]

purplekiller 242 Twins are a piece of cake if you know how to use skills, but this is luck near the end. I remember that it took me a while to come up with a plan to defeat Elizabeth

[@dopeking1091]

Elizabeth : i guess I'm the one who's going to give you the hardest time in the game Demi Fiend : Hold my beer

[@thatballer306]

Beet the twins in one try thanks to Ann ryuji and haru Oh yeah looking foward to playing the awsomeness that is p3 fes for the first time buying it on psn for ps3

[@kotarouriderblack6118]

The kingdom knight on my way beating her. Good luck friend

[@dragonstormx]

She says she met someone stronger than her but she can end the fight anytime she wants, so really all she met was someone who could beat her when she pulled her punches.

[@BNSecrets]

Personally I always thought infringing the rules gave her the power to punish you for breaking them

[@bubbleteacore]

You can use any element you want on Orpheus Telos. None of her personas have weaknesses and each one persona drains their respective element. Nebiros resists them all and the rest nullify. Don't use a Strike or Piercing weapon because two of them null strike and one nulls pierce. So not hitting her on the Jack Frost turn isn't a huge loss. It's probably better that you don't.

[@OdysseyRPG1]

Hmm it could be that her endurance is considerably lower when Jack Frost is equipped because I remember only hitting for 600-700 when she had Thor or Cu Chulainn equipped.

[@SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC]

Nope. You see, when you use the compliment of an element (Fire-Ice, Lightning-Wind) against the element she used (In this fight, you using Ragnarok against her using Bufudyne), you'll get a 1.5x incentive in damage. That's why there's more damage

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC It's basically a soft weakness

[@moonbug7252]

A token of my appreciatio-*AAHUH*

[@oliverpease6719]

I love how megidolaon is a multi target spell and yet no boss uses it like that/ no player uses it like that

[@KTH96]

8:36 Perfection...

[@makoto-samaru8004]

Masakado unsheating his blade with a megidolaon, is the coolest thing.

[@sagoruzemo9557]

Last time i heard this song I was the one one shotting people

[@Mene0]

This is probably the hardest attendant fight

[@00F]

I love how one of her attacks is just hitting you across the face with the compendium

[@edd4946]

My man put maya's theme as tartarus theme... Based

[@blighttown169]

Imagine doing this without beads.

[@Alan-cm7ye]

Your personas must have Salvation if you don't have Beads

[@teddysaliwa5770]

"I apologize" proceeds to hit you with a book

[@thatnerdinthecomments4678]

Sexy Dance is a skill?! Man, the Megami Tensei series has been weird for a WHILE.

[@1r587]

I wish I could learn it to use in reality.

[@dreamviper3175]

👁👄👁

[@joshuagabrielcatindig7607]

@@1r587 but wouldn't that wear off eventually?

[@1r587]

@@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 Not if I keep dancing.

[@joshuagabrielcatindig7607]

@@1r587 sounds like a line in Dancing.

[@m0thz746]

this is supeeer late but, anybody notice how she seems to know that fuuka is there as a screen?

[@chris3904]

I actually just noticed that looking back at it lol, she moves her eyes a little in the direction of where the screen is

[@fikriakbar4789]

Remember when you think Elizabeth is the strongest secret boss fight??? . . . . . . . . 2023 and still YES IT DOES

[@ryanp7546]

Demi-Fiend from DDS:

[@chino-1291]

@@ryanp7546 fr

[@eileenlucynakurosawa7421]

I love playing through the Monad block, easy and faster way to level up.

[@Kagetora-]

Same, certain enemies give so much exp

[@adapperwalrus1662]

I love that he pulled out his gun to use an ability so many times

[@RubyTheWitchRTW]

Unique to Persona 3

[@maliook727]

persona 3 moment

[@mediaknight]

“I’m not as fragile as I look.” Immediately hurts herself trying to throw a card at you.

[@eoghanfeighery7383]

I think this battle pretty much keeps you on your toes a lot!

[@elcomemierda2624]

@@coffee9146 what happens if i bring my party members

[@coffee9146]

@@elcomemierda2624 She instantly kills you

[@elcomemierda2624]

@@coffee9146 nice

[@belmont1960]

jesus... and i thought reaper was the hardest boss. Never knew you could fight her.

[@yodagaming5905]

Imagine needing a calculator for a boss fight

[@uyuuto99]

Same bro...........

[@MetalPopka]

I can't listen to Elizabeth's voice without thinking of Vert from Hyperdimension Neptunia.

[@brusameba]

I can't listen to vert withouth thinking about Elizabeth

[@WirxawTanev]

Sounded like some granny.

[@Audiblegaming]

Same

[@burritowyrm6530]

“I’ve been waiting for you” “I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS”

[@LightKing1237]

This fight wouldn’t be so hard if she didn’t get 50 attacks in one turn

[@الدجاجالقيمر]

you know that most bosses gets 2 attacks in one tern and she is no deffrint

[@LightKing1237]

@@الدجاجالقيمر ya they get 2 she gets 50

[@Smoketrees1969]

*COMMITS NOCTURNE MOT*

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@الدجاجالقيمر No dude. In FES, only really Nyx and Liz do that

[@asurathedevigd3002]

@@Smoketrees1969beast eye

[@HazasDump]

Fuuka: "aRe yOu oKay?" Makoto: "No, I'm not!!"

[@insertnamehere2022]

Its interesting seeing fusion spells work so differently compared to the portable remaster

[@beyondtheinfinite3263]

Elizabeth can defeat Nyx effortlessly.

[@claudiolancia319]

By the way, did you notice that she summons persona in the same way as the investigation team, meaning with cards? Shouldn't Chie, Yosuke etc's personas be part of the compendium if that's the case? It's only a question, no hate please!

[@coffee9146]

No, the velvet people just use cards themselves. all of them do. Investigation team's personae are all unique to them, the same way everybody's persona is minus wild card users.

[@claudiolancia319]

Aidan Smith I see... so the Velvet siblings use the compendium that contains all the personas a wild card user can fuse/summon, minus the specific ones like Orpheus and Izanagi. Thank you :)

[@faragaroruga3229]

Man...It's pretty sad you had to specify the "no hate, please" at the end I wish the internet was a nicer place :/

[@ravenmerchant7151]

@@faragaroruga3229 The Persona fandom especially. We're so cruel to each other when one has another opinion.

[@Faceless_time_traveler]

The way persona 4 treats the investigation team is that they face the ugly side of their personalities to awaken their personas , but the protagonist didn't so maybe he follows the same rule as those of the velvet room ... I dunno I'm still not that far into the game

[@Althioski]

A token of my appreciatio- OOOUH UM!!

[@jadebayoba7073]

Fun Fact: What you are fighting right now, is none other than Zero herself from Drakengard 3 She also shares voice with the red haired one

[@jadebayoba7073]

And she's playing just like in a Touhou battle... Great

[@jadebayoba7073]

Girl its Mitsuru that's literally your bias WHY did you not remember her name 😭

[@W.2026]

Man, how do you get those personas? I'm currently 22 days away from the finale and no matter what I fuse I get the same 5 or 6 personas.

[@RubyTheWitchRTW]

I can only provide one m8, Orpheus Telos. To obtain Orpheus Telos, you need to max out every. single. social link. On 1 continuous run. It’s very challenging, and iirc you don’t have much room for fuckup. But if you do max everyone out, you will get an item that allows you to fuse Orpheus Telos. Good luck! I recommend using a guide

[@ilovetweek000]

if you're following a fusion calculator but you still end up getting trash personae, maybe you haven't maxed out the s link needed for that persona

[@aleaiactaest6503]

About as hard as the average Nocturne boss.

[@hcorvnov6732]

The fact she has uber pixie

[@aleaiactaest6503]

@@hcorvnov6732 if you're referring to the one you get at the fifth kalpa, that's fricking hilarious

[@Zarathustra_infinite]

Yeah shes hard but have you fought demi fiend true pain I never want to experience I gave up maybe I'll come back to smtV one day I'm not playing the other smt games rn because I'm burned out

[@aleaiactaest6503]

@@Zarathustra_infinite beat demifiend

[@HellGod67]

So the hardest fight in this game is fighting an elevator attendant?

[@W.2026]

Well you can expect anything from a game where the most popular girl in your school agrees to date you provided that you drink 100+ cups of tea

[@elgranhermano8872]

@@W.2026 didnt know mitsuru liked coffe

[@W.2026]

@@elgranhermano8872 No, I meant Yukari. You need to have max charm to be able to form a social link with her (and eventually date her), and the quickest and most sensible way to increase your charm is to drink coffee at the cafe in paulownia mall after school.

[@kurosan9712]

Still the best attendant fight in the series.

[@paulogiovannialvarezramos112]

I just realized that Velet Room attendants summon Personas the same way the characters on P4 do!

[@spades_111]

Hardest Persona Boss Fight of ALL the SERIES!!!!!!

[@farina2729]

Josue Pineda still pales in comparison to Demi-Fiend

[@spades_111]

Farina technically Demi fiend belongs to shinigami series not the persona series but I admit it's really a very hard fight

[@farina2729]

Josue Pineda Persona is a spin off of the SMT series tho

[@andrewjohnson8919]

Wrong

[@Lucario1121]

What makes her so hard? Kinda new to this whole Persona series

[@doctorowl9473]

May the games of shuffling begin!! \o/

[@smilinggeneral8870]

when i thought reaper and nyx was hard.... although nyx was easier than reaper (if you didn't bring odin) though.

[@LckD008]

I beat the Reaper without Odin at bout lvl 70 before fighting Nyx. It literally took longer than the final boss.

[@Slenderquil]

Liz is really out here bragging by using unnecessary ma- skills

[@JoseLucasd]

Blud really threw the most op skills, lost and then did a Evangelion speech😭🙏 "Only i can decide who i am" shinji ahh speech

[@korshegv9733]

FR 😭

[@KibaNaruFan432]

This battle was a pain I could never do so. Also if u want the best equipment u have to beat her each time for a party member

[@JazzyJac]

Isn't Elizabeth like one of the strongest or is the strongest V.R attendant? If so then It seems like Yuki is the strongest Protagonist since he took her down?

[@dokkanbattleplayer2921]

Not even close Tatsuya is the strongest protagonist

[@tastethecock5203]

Velvet attendants strength is distributed by seniority. Margaret is the strongest.

[@oldcat1790]

So far P3 protagonist is the only one who can attack with multiple personas at the same time, fly, and perform literal miracles. So regardless of attendant power, he seems to be the strongest atm.

[@GabyEzePereira]

@@oldcat1790 He's one of the stongest not just because of those abilities. He was able to face nyx, one of those responsible for the creation of the CU.

[@milesstorzillo7650]

Elizabeth may have just been dethroned as the hardest Persona boss.

[@Mngalahad]

hey, is there a difference in this fight between normal and hard? I assumed that this super boss would do the same amount of damage regardless of difficulty or else, it wouldn't be hard.

[@anonimonovids]

The Main difference between difficilties are mostly on stats, and how far the rng leans towards enemies

[@anonimonovids]

IIRC, MANIAC Straight up kicks off by denying carry over and also all enemies have +10 stats, +20Acc/Evade

[@avideogamemaster]

how are you supposed to avoid 2 Megidolaons back to back without Infinity?

[@psirockin2251]

You can't? I don't know

[@Gusztika3]

You won't and can't. Bring a persona with infinity.

[@LIONREV7]

There is another combination that makes you invincible for 1 turn but it leaves you with 1 hp

[@andresarancio6696]

The whole Elizabeth fight is a gimmick fest, you are supposed to use Infinity, Armaggedon and Orpheus Telos to win (I imagine someone actually beat her in more complicated ways, but pretty sure there is no way to bruteforce it). Which makes sense, it is an ultimate battle in a SMT franchise game, it is supposed to be hard and expect you to learn every littly thing of the game. Or read a guide

[@zaqareemalcolm]

Andres Arancio You don't need Orpheus Telos (the boss fight did exist before Persona 3 FES was even a thing), but it is more or less tailor-made for the boss fight due to his resistances.

[@Aoun01]

Now you've seen what great of guy he is, go and save him from his misery cause I have cried a lot at the ending of the game😭😭😭😭 RIP YUKI😭😭😭😭😭💔💔

[@anthonycrank6406]

What is the song at the start of the episode? It's so....peaceful.

[@avideogamemaster]

Maya's Theme

[@rocketprime]

Does this strategy still work on Beginner difficulty?

[@zenr04]

Ofc, The only way to defeat Elizabeth is your luck

[@FyrenRei]

please can you tell me the fusion process you went through to have that Orpheus Telos. I want him with Ragnarok but i cant find guides that detail the process, they just say "get x skills and you are good". Please i beg you, i have the patience so ill do whatever it takes.

[@OdysseyRPG1]

I don't remember the process I did, but for Ragnarok I know it involves fusing a lvl 56+ Surt somewhere into O.Telos' spread. Use a fusion chart/calculator to help you determine which combinations to do. Make sure you're capped on yen when you do this, because there will be ALOT of high level fusing. Since you're gonna want to have as many of these skills as you can, on all the personae required to fuse O.Telos. Once you make a final product of Helel, Thanatos, Metatron, Chi You, Asura, or Messiah. I would register it to the compendium and then try to incorporate it into one of the other 5.

[@FyrenRei]

***** i did it without the element amp and boost but with morning star and sharp student instead. I guess i got lucky cuz y only needed 4million yen. But thx nontheless :)

[@OdysseyRPG1]

Nice, how did the fight go? Also I forgot it's like 4x yen cost for fusing on hard mode lol.

[@FyrenRei]

***** rough but i won through RNG bullshit :b Book of Enoch babyyyyy!!!!

[@OdysseyRPG1]

Nice and congrats!

[@Arieline_D_fur]

I would still enjoy this boss fight even when makoto dies

[@SeekGrace]

2:40 lol

[@newbplaygames]

we call her elizadeath for a reason

[@haseozenithmaru1186]

I apologize in advance

[@seanbenedictpacquiao3445]

Elizabeth's diarahan is actualy like Margaret in pesona 4 but Elizabeth is way more harder lol

[@thatguy7155]

It's not even magic She literally just use her book and yeah no magic at all and yet she is very powerful

[@theinfamousguil]

i thought the shoes of light but it doesn't matter. since divine pillar prevents dodge.

[@Alan-cm7ye]

I tried without Divine Pillar in Normal Mode, i won. Weapon: bow

[@zarcsakaki8758]

Can you get and additional turn if you get a critical hit ?

[@xc0xupx]

No, she cannot be knocked down through a critical hit, so no additional turn.

[@jfiffl7]

Spotty cows see Folly of hallowed grounds More feasibly.

[@CVicMagpantay]

So you don't need salvation on Telos like one of the gamefas guides suggested?

[@nerothewateruser8030]

You don't need it but if you can fit it into the skill list then that's nice

[@CVicMagpantay]

@@nerothewateruser8030 k.

[@loganreidy7055]

Really makes p5 and especially p5r look easy lol. I remember in my first playthrough of Royal I fused a maxed izanagi-no-okami and it made superbosses on merciless a joke

[@LuizHenrique9406]

But let's be fair, Izanagi-no-okami is OP as hell in P5R, the only ones who was this OP damage-related is Yoshitsune and Kaguya

[@CereDulce37]

Bruh if you are gonna use that persona then you might as well play the game on "safe" mode.

[@loganreidy7055]

@@CereDulce37 it's easier than safe mode lol. You can literally ohko the reaper with it :/

[@spacegnome2476]

Yeah but that's pretty much just using your wallet to beat it.

[@Morichoradio]

@@spacegnome2476 Doesnt matter. it still proves persona 5 royal is too easy. Lavenza was just too easy even if you dont use dlc personas.

[@ImmaNort]

Nice.

[@NTheHedgehog]

I keep hearing she has all these different rules for the battle but I dont see what she means

[@grotus5549]

Use a persona that can nullify, reflect, or drain more than one property? Equip a persona that can null/reflect/drain the element of the persona she's using? Use an Attack/Magic Mirror, Tetrakarn, or Makarakarn during battle? Equip an accessory that nulls physical or elemental damage? You use Armageddon before she's below 10,000 HP? Fail to defeat her within her turn limit? You do any of those, Elizabeth will heal herself to max HP and then proceed to drop her special, max damage Megidolaons on you until you die. Think you're clever and use an auto-revival item on the protagonist? She'll keep dropping those on you until you stop getting back up. Also, failing to use Infinity on the turn she brings out Masakado means almost certain death.

[@zaqareemalcolm]

James The Hikage fanboy She doesn’t tell you the rules; they were found out by trial and error (before anybody wrote any P3 guides i mean) It basically boils down to - Don’t have any elemental Block/Repel/Absorb - Don’t use attack and magic reflect items and skills - Don’t use the Omnipotent Orb - Don’t use Armageddon unless it reduces her HP to 0 Shell repeatedly cast 9999 Megidolaon with Pixie if you violate any of these Elizabeth’s turns also follows a set pattern, and she will use 9999 Megidolaon (with Masakado instead) before it cycles back, so you need to use Infinity (Vishnu + Ananta) to survive.

[@jadebayoba7073]

I still dont get why she uses multiple target attacks

[@zaqareemalcolm]

i imagine the devs wanted to give a little reprieve since ma- spells have slightly lower accuracy doesnt account for most players usually coming in with a divine pillar or firm stance but w/e lol

[@jadebayoba7073]

@@zaqareemalcolm also ive heared ma- skills do slightly more damage?? I don't think so tbh

[@zaqareemalcolm]

@@jadebayoba7073 no they have the same base power as their single target ver. in this game

[@makhyusnimakhyusni401]

That Maya Theme

[@Galo_do_drip]

Wouldn't it be better to have 4 personas each with each severe elemental spell?

[@Silver_Eruptor]

You can't null her attacks or you're dead

[@rocklobster4942]

If you don't have divine pillar is it possible to actually dodge her attacks?

[@tankerlover2698]

possible but her accuracy is very high. i use a modded skill in P3P to test dodge build (shoes of light + barbaric bracer + ali dance + angelic grace + premonition) not to mentioned 99 agl and some respective elemental evade/dodge according to her elemental turn. reaper just able to hit my char either 1 or none at all. same story with margaret. however elizabeth is on another level. not only her accuracy is high but she also hit like a truck. u can try dodge build but be expect to get kill in 1-2 attack. btw i test it on lvl 98 on maniac level (just some sort of challenge :P)

[@shikotsu9394]

2:02 Only the most dangerous Velveteer 💁🏾‍♂️

[@adindaproborini9047]

how you make lucifer.blade ? and.messiah.

[@andresarancio6696]

Weapon fusion with Lucifer for the blade. Thantanos + Orpheus (normal one) after Judgement is maxed out for Messiah

[@primsmokes]

@@andresarancio6696 dont forget lvl 90 player for messiah

[@kittenpower9017]

Salisbury-san proves to be quite tough

[@MuddiWasTaken]

Why not have a full team, spam Infinity to defend your team, and have them wail her down till Armageddon time?

[@PhantomEnderium]

you can only fight her alone, she won't let you bring a party

[@DoubleJ466]

I need that beginning song

[@BlitzkriegOmega]

how did you get your Orpheus Telos to have 99 flush stats? is that just the main selling point of that Persona?

[@FadedPhoenixYT]

Card sets + arcade games

[@irisdaniels2318]

lmfao why is orthrus just there