OFF - Zone 0 Boss: Sugar

[@blackcapchannel9553]

I think Sugar was hard to beat because she's human, a creature of flesh.

[@psychopianist630]

Enoch is also human (according to Mortis Ghost), and in his boss battle, he's several times bigger than Sugar. Yet Enoch has 7000 HP in his proper boss battle, while Sugar has 12000 HP.

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

@@psychopianist630 thats enoch at his weakest state, his first battle shows his true power

[@GengUpinIpin]

​@@psychopianist630"bigger doesnt mean better" Thats what im guessing...

[@cupidswingman]

The issue is that every single elsen is also a human. But i guess you can say its an exception because every(?) elsen we fought were the burnt version

[@FrostiOrca]

what makes this fight creepy/meaningful is that after beating Sugar the batter doesn't say She's been purified but instead that she's dead. All the Specters fought to this point kinda vanish after defeat but sugar is on the floor bleeding till she dies

[@naraka5028]

+GaminEevee I'm sure purified is Batter's nice way to say murder

[@plusminus7699]

cause she's a human

[@kennethlatorre5505]

she's been confirmed to be human. that's why

[@FrostiOrca]

+kenneth latorre and? when other characters who die that aren't specters die, they disappear. she's the only character who leaves a body

[@Furigou]

Hugo is human too, yet the batter purifies him.

[@harrisonfackrell]

"I guess it's better like that." This line really adds a lot of characterization to Zacharie, I think. It's the same response The Batter has when The Judge accuses the player of 'immersing this place in a pristine nothingness,' but Zacharie is ambivalent about it at best. He understands and believes in The Batter's cause, but out of necessity, because--as he declares when he introduces himself in Zone 1--he has a role to play as the one who sells items.

[@godisdeadandimheretorule7587]

Batter: hey zacharie I killed your girlfriend Zacharie: yOU WHAT?!

[@yohann8809]

omg XD

[@As-yx3pz]

He literally says "It's better like that" not otherwise

[@MisterJohnDoe]

@@As-yx3pz I think it’s a joke.

[@LeafyCooldown]

@El canal del weirdo sugar means de sucre in french

[@waddleds665]

"HUHUHUAAAHUHUAYAYAYAYAYA"

[@askgoverntale2298]

I'm pretty sure Zacharie, Sugar, The Judge, Valerie, and Hugo could see the batter's true form

[@wak5240]

U know, with this comment i wanna a mod in the game that only is The Batter in he's real form in the entire game

[@askgoverntale2298]

@@wak5240 I like to imagine each time he gets an Add-On it makes him more monstrous. Alpha make his right arm grow, Omega grew his left, Epsilon made his head into the terrifying Alligator.

[@punpunonodera9984]

@@askgoverntale2298 I like to imagine he was always like that from the perspective of the utopionists while Zacharie saw him as normal because he’s a nihilist

[@chaosinc.382]

@@punpunonodera9984 I like that idea.

[@imp437]

I’m pretty sure everyone saw him like that but compared to other enemy designs he looks surprisingly normal in his “ducky” form

[@kennabolt9361]

The huge frightening ducky? Is sugar referring to the batter in his monster form?

[@randomsongmodifierdude7721]

Mhm

[@ThatOneArtist33]

I thought he was a crocodile. But nevermind, he's a duck. WOOOOHHHOOOO!!!

[@yonkbonk9249]

The Batter has no monster forme.

[@lemonpeppafish4452]

Yonk Bonk idk man...he kinda does

[@josuemoreno7002]

@@lemonpeppafish4452 I think the Judge just sees him like that. He's the one saying you are an allucination and stuff

[@thewitness4134]

"I'm ignoring... Why everything's so frightening..." if that isnt my mood when anxiety's acting up idk what is

[@melon0637]

Oml sugar and zacharie laughs when you talk to them. And goddamn, their laugh is beautiful

[@Vaehlo]

Batter: And I um..killed her. Zacharie: BATTERRR! Batter: What, she needed to become pure. Zacharie: Batter- Batter:.... Zacharie: What are we standing in... Batter: Sugar...

[@WillieManga]

Zach's like "Thanks for ending her suffering... Gonna buy something?"

[@ZealothiaArt]

She's so cute, too bad she doesn't have much time in the game.

[@theseashellqueenfandomgal9333]

IKR

[@MisterJohnDoe]

Yeah, the game never mentions her anywhere else almost like she doesn’t exist.

[@AlwaysAlone716]

I know it was saddest part of OFF so far but she was scared. Zach knew how scared she was so that's why he said it was for the best...because it was. I hate how she turned out too but was she really meant to live in fear? Is that what she was born for? Please think about these things before just starting to hate OFF

[@NoNoDontTouchMeThere]

R/im14andthisisdeep

[@robertostalone551]

yeah death is perfect option lmao

[@skinnyboi8937]

@@NoNoDontTouchMeThere not really

[@smallguy73]

r/ihavereddit

[@floofzykitten5236]

Sucre is really easy if you just use competence moves to heal everyone while she's poisoned and put in attacks when no single party member is defeated.

[@nicolasdamico1748]

7 YEARS AND I NEVER FIGURED OUT WHY THE FUCK HE HAS MAGIC ONION RINGS!

[@davidgn40]

Why not? They simply aid in the pursuit of purification.

[@LeafyCooldown]

nom nom nom

[@OcarinaOfTime]

Are you talking about the addons ? The creator of the game said that the addons symbolized the promises made by the 3 guardians to Hugo, a symbol of their friendship kinda. The creator of the game, Mortis Ghost, did a livestream for the 15th anniversary of the game where he reveals a lot of things

[@izzytoonz]

I'm so confused bc somehow I finished the game without ever fighting her, or seeing Batter's monster form....what???? This is all new to me?? Monster form? This lady? Wtf?!? Anyone else finish the game without seeing these things?

[@izzytoonz]

BreadFacedKitty ohhh ok thank you

[@analysissel]

kal after purifying zone 1, you need to go back into Alma and go to one of the puzzles in the meat river to find an item called the Grand Finale. After that, you can find sugar in zone 0

[@oqo3310]

@@analysissel you also need to find items in purified zone 2 and 3

[@AxpherLIX]

​@@oqo3310 You don't, you only need one grand item. You also are able to kill her quite early on, I managed with some struggle to beat her with 2 add ons with all of my team lv13

[@RealParadoxBlues]

Fights like this are why you have poison attacks. They're broken against high-HP enemies like Sugar and the Queen. (Enoch is immune, though.)

[@Bullboy_Adventures]

More like, broken against high hp enemies with low defense/low resistance to poison

[@electrobob992]

I always wished there were 5 secret bosses, each representing one of the five elements. We have sugar, but also smoke, metal, plastic, and meat. He could have had the smoke one be the final boss!! A ghost like being named Mortis xD With a surprise guide through out this bonus campaign, who would reveal themselves as someone we thought left the world. Someone who would be too "kind hearted" to leave his brother behind. Who would help purify someone who thought themself pure.

[@MisterJohnDoe]

I think Hugo was said to be the Guardian of meat, and it seems that Dedan’s body is made of steel according to one of the library books of Zone 2.

[@KonoGufo]

To add onto the above comment: Japhet likely represents smoke for the reason that smoke hides and obscures things, just as Japhet is hidden inside Valerie. On top of that smoke is formless and drifts away until it can no longer be seen, and Japhet's been forgotten and ignored by those who once knew him. Enoch could be plastic simply because he runs a factory lol. And his smile seems rather doll-like and artificial most of the time.

[@echothefreak9396]

⁠@@KonoGufodedan is probably meat, he lives(?) in the meat production place also he just seems… meat-y

[@MGharriy]

​@@echothefreak9396 metal*

[@echothefreak9396]

@@MGharriy alma has the meat fountains. Thats where you fight him, at least. Its unclear where he _lives_ since he also has an office in shachihata(plastic). Pentel is the metal place w/ all the cows

[@99colourful]

It's okay. I didn't need my heart anyways....

[@MisterJohnDoe]

I wish we got to know more about her.

[@RageGS]

It's peoples head canon. It's canon they were friends and MAYBE lovers but its really up to speculation.

[@MrAlias-oc8uk]

Poison is crazy effective against her.

[@blitzmightyN7]

im lvl 25 and beat zone 3 boss and those stairs wont open she wants no parts of me

[@blitzmightyN7]

***** XD

[@Karins.Channel]

Then perhaps you need to get the special items from each Purified Zone (Grand Finale, Grand Diagonal and Grand Espectral).

[@thememer8736]

Karin's Channel no thats for the secret ending

[@anlaso1887]

how can i get the Grand Diagonal?

[@smallguy73]

Its in one of the bunkers in Bismark.

[@CrazyKevin1231]

Wait so is that duck thing on the floor the batters shadow?

[@lin-wt7lm]

I think it's just the logo on the ground but that's a interesting way to look at it!

[@anavhs9810]

I see a swan, dunnooo

[@retarded2457]

Your pfp scares me

[@LeafyCooldown]

pedaloo

[@Karins.Channel]

I think it becomes accesible after you go through the Purified Zones once, but I haven't checked before.

[@theseashellqueenfandomgal9333]

Karin's Channel yes

[@newalias7582]

Holy shit, Sugar has 20.000 health

[@umarzayn]

I thought batter was a raptor

[@ilovecoffeev]

Same here

[@stewartsaurus5796]

Same.

[@anavhs9810]

well, goose have teeth. but I wouldn't call that a goose evah heh

[@MisterJohnDoe]

Yeah, like he was a crocodile or something.

[@dapperblueberries9779]

My theory for her is she was once the guardian of zone 3 and Zach’s girlfriend but was kicked out and replaced for mass producing to much sugar without regulation. Soon she went insane and traveled to zone 0 to make all the sugar she wants. However she was once the Batter’s friend, or at least an acquaintance, however the Batter doesn’t remember her, making her go even more mad and violent in the process, resulting in her fight and eventual defeat.

[@shadowsoldier5371]

I ended up sticking it on Auto at level 15 and killed her. I was actually quite disappointed, for the Boss that gives you the most EXP she wasn't as difficult as expected. I then went on to Auto my way through the Queen and the Judge as well.

[@miraruiz3585]

Judge and Queen are commonly known as medium/easy fights. Judge is supposed to be easy as Batter, but most should go Judge route for challenge.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

auto unleashes the beast that is the Batter, with the player no longer holding him back with their stupidity and their need to keep everyone's HP high

[@chaosinc.382]

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Batter, when on Autofight: NO COST TOO GREAT.

[@circumpolar]

ok im confused she never even said anything about being zacharie's wife like did everyone just assume that or??????

[@GiffyMcgee]

argh fucketh She says "Say goodbye to zacharie for me" when she dies. It implies they know each other but that's it.

[@lio3501]

Giffy_Mcgee I think it was on the 10th anniversary of Off live.. Mortis says that Sugar is the ex or girlfriend of Zacharie

[@theseashellqueenfandomgal9333]

I ship Sugarie...

[@Kyubi888Naruto]

"We'll I guess it's better like that" that's how you feel dawg!

[@goreogre3084]

Sugarie is better than Batterie.

[@tlatoani931]

;-)

[@MilkuPinku]

Sugarie was real but Batterie can be real

[@eeeeeegbert]

I like both...

[@MikanUtikisama]

Sucre, is not your fault, but ours for destroy the Zones

[@seg162]

Actually, you could have just used some poison attacks straight from level 8 with only Alpha-- Sugar was really susceptible to those. Like, REALLY.

[@rep1600]

I'm not gonna kill Sugar :\

[@fandomtrash6396]

Kanaya Maryam WOOOOAAAHH. You're everywherwe.

[@keyman245]

Fandom Trash you 2 here in another of video (fake orchestra)

[@ronalfons409]

Couldn't you just flee out of here.

[@LeafyCooldown]

a must

[@ephraimallen234]

this game made me feel like I was playing earthbound halloween

[@invertebrado]

It is because Toby Fox has been inspired by games like this:yuminiki,OFF even the mother franchise it's self

[@Waluigi420]

I've purified all of them but the staircase isnt there

[@mercurybby]

I didn't want to kill her.. I played the game seeing what would happen if I did and did not.

[@_shuki]

Best OFF char.

[@dukefishron517]

What's with her hands? Are those... hooks!? Definitely creepy...

[@MisterJohnDoe]

They’re supposed to be candy things on strings I think. When their sprites disappear, the strings remain in the air.

[@LeafyCooldown]

dummies

[@MrsVeggiedude]

no you only need to go into the Purified Zone 1 and get the Grand Finale, then you go back to the Nothingness, then to Zone 0 and find her

[@rchetype7029]

Does Zone 0 always remain yellow? Even after purifying it's master?

[@CassandraTheScalie]

+Original Narrator Pablo is the guardian of Zone 0, not Sugar. He has a card like the other guardians, and I think Mortis Ghost said it himself at some point.

[@rchetype7029]

Latimew333 Huh, that reminds me of the day I met my boat.

[@elcomemierda2624]

@@rchetype7029 your what

[@LeafyCooldown]

@@elcomemierda2624 His boat

[@somechupacabrawithinternet8866]

i want her to adopt me

[@chaosinc.382]

When ya gotta put em down ya gotta put em down..

[@mimilune2746]

zacarachie x sugar is the notp

[@stewartsaurus5796]

It's cannon you train.

[@chaoscrab]

Yes, Sugar and Zacharie do in fact share some type of backstory together. However, Mortis ghost did say that "She's not his mum, but I don't know if she's his girlfriend." in response to someones question about Sugar. Zacharie and Sugar being a couple isn't exactly canon. It's not confirmed rather or not Sugar is his girlfriend, sibling, friend etc. (Source: comments.deviantart.com/4/3470838/3022385962 )

[@tlatoani931]

Oww

[@linzig32]

well sugar is ridiculously strong

[@theseashellqueenfandomgal9333]

linzig32 and hot-

[@Jugdjay]

Dem 10,000 HP tho :/

[@skyjack1]

Use your poison attacks, kids.

[@LeafyCooldown]

@@theseashellqueenfandomgal9333 😳😳😳

[@federicomoreira8841]

that's a long ass battle

[@alexanderlora6850]

Does Sugar appear before this fight in any place whatsoever?

[@Pokecatchofthestars]

So, this is the extra boss of the game?

[@miraruiz3585]

Yes.

[@MrsVeggiedude]

sugarie feels ;~;

[@tlatoani931]

:''''u

[@umarzayn]

But a raptor is close enough

[@Feliz20010]

+MMD Toy Chica and Zayn This is vision of Judge in relation of Batter, confirmed by creator of game

[@umarzayn]

ok

[@thatonecommentor7758]

How on earth do you get the basement to appear?

[@invertebrado]

I dunno if you already know,but we go To enter there you have to come back to zone 1 in the meat river solve a puzzle and got a item called "it has beem 3 year i don't play this game i sorry"(i really forget the name) after that you can battle sugar

[@jasmeme666]

sucre didnt deserve it

[@toceeno874]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO I cant believe i missed this boss, ughhh and I just had to delete the game after completing it hnnnnnnnng

[@elcuy3544]

Why does she look so unfitting with the game thematic? Like if she was some sort of edgy oc

[@PrincessCadenceyo]

**dying** "-("

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

she wasn't strong, you were just underleveled and had insanely low agility

[@LeafyCooldown]

you'll kill them anyway

[@Waluigi420]

how do you access the staircase to her?

[@melon0637]

Sugar and zacharie is a nice ship

[@jozofallknowing]

R.I.P Zacharie You gurl ded He will never forgive batter....

[@Acefdiamonds]

I first tried her poison destroys her

[@motsumono01]

THE FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELSSSSSS ;-;

[@cinnabun1301]

HOW DO YOU GET THOSE? ;O;

[@Matchstick-1]

JANJAAI

[@ShadowIncarnate6]

:-)

[@chaosinc.382]

:-)

[@LeafyCooldown]

:-)

[@creamymilk4857]

How unlock?

[@yalingap1169]

Mmmm yellow

[@0megazeero]

She looks like min min

[@susurreal3779]

purify isso purify aquilo mehhh foda

[@susurreal3779]

PUTA QUE PARIU ZACHARIE "ACHO QUE É MELHOR ASSIM" SE QUISESSE SE SEPARAR ERA SÓ TER FALADO NA CARA PÔ ELE NÃO QUER MAIS DANÇAR COM A MOÇA DO AÇUCAR LSKSKSKSKSKZSKSKSHGUABEUEHRYE ah to convulsando

[@invertebrado]

Mas o batter não disse nada sobre purificar ela,muito pelo contrário ela é a UNICA que quando você encontra o batter não chama de espirito do mal ou coisa do tipo e além disso é também a UNICA que o corpo não desaparece e que o batter não fala algo depois que ela morre,ele só fala quando vai interagir com o cadáver e ainda fala "She is dead" todos os outros até o hugo era purifacado,mas ela não,ela só estava morta Vai Brazilian

[@retarded2457]

@@invertebrado pelo oq da pra ver ela e humana *Vai brazilian*

[@invertebrado]

@@retarded2457 É, mas batter trata todos no seu caminho praticamente igual. Edit: _Vai Brazilian_

[@ultraprincesskenny6790]

Man, this is easy at level 30

[@love_radiation6408]

11:37

[@ZAN23966]

only boss to have killed me...

[@itsjustjaketv6666]

Zan fran olan HOW DID ENOCH NOT KILL YOU. I DIED TO HIM SEVEN TIMES BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO FLEE.

[@skyjack1]

@@itsjustjaketv6666 Dude, the Batter literally told you to flee.

[@itsjustjaketv6666]

@@skyjack1 I didnt know how to flee? I had never scrolled down in the menu

[@skyjack1]

@@itsjustjaketv6666 You don't need to scroll down to see the option though

[@itsjustjaketv6666]

@@skyjack1 maybe I'm just lame brained

[@minombreesadrid5372]

I dont like sugar, that's why i watch so many times this video, i love to see how she dies over and over and over again~ (I'm stupid, i know xd)

[@AllThrill]

SatoWhiteMeow :3 Why don't you like her?

[@makio8965]

that's kind of scary man

[@MisterJohnDoe]

Weird.

[@SuperBearNeo]

We found a sadist

[@SamueldaSilvadosSantos]

:-)

[@SamueldaSilvadosSantos]

Info for ppl because why the hell not: To get the stairs to go to the fight Sugar: Hidden in each Purified Zone is an Element, a collectable item associated with one of smoke, metal or plastic. The elements are always found in a room with two chests, a Red Cube and several spades on the wall. The element of meat can only be purchased from Zacharie near the end of The Room. The element of sugar can only be obtained once the other Elements are obtained, by defeating Sugar in Zone 0. Once the Elements are all obtained, they can be given to Zacharie in Zone 0 for either the Ashley Bat, the most powerful weapon in the game (which hits twice per physical attack) or the Aries Card, which unlocks a secret third ending.

[@SamueldaSilvadosSantos]

^^ copied this from wiki

[@chaosinc.382]

:-)

[@midwife7325]

:-)

[@MitsubishiDelica-fm8gk]

:-(

[@doggoarmstrong9216]

Each one has a perfect balance of likes... NOT! MUAHAHAH

[@fudgecandi]

@@luciaemilce9747 /-:

[@elloriii]

@@doggoarmstrong9216 UR ADORABLE