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0:00 Start
0:44 Tier List
7:20 How air force spirits differ
8:55 Spirit of air force command
22:02 SECRET SPIRIT
26:00 Conclusion
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[@TurbulentEitri]

The "Design Cost -75%" is from before BBA back when plane design modifiers took hundreds of air experience to max out. It's also why Dive Bombers gives CAS research since plane types used to be individual research before being merged into frame sizes. So design cost -75% used to be really powerful, but it hasn't been updated to fit the newest expansion.

[@patrylec1510]

also without BBA bought you still retain the CAS aircraft type

[@JohnJohnson-fy6dt]

Before bba I loved the dive bomber spirit

[@kellymcbright5456]

The plane designer embarrasses me anyway. The tank designer provides option to strengthen motor and armament by a percentage using XP. There is nothing similar in the plane designer. Is that a great plan or just lost in the haste?

[@aleksandarmanojlovic4988]

​@@JohnJohnson-fy6dt before bba it was op

[@AlneCraft]

Dave knows. He was the one who popularized maxing CAS with CAS designer when it just came out in No Step Back.

[@diegonayahernandez6801]

i think the reason the air force does not have an academy spirit is because unlike army and navy you dont have comanders for your air wings you have aces and that wouldnt really make sense

[@melfice999]

This, and also airforce as a military branch as a whole was rather new, and was stuck in a constant limbo of "is it part of the army? or is it part of the navy? or is it neither? or is it a politically connected".

[@saulmedeiros8836]

They could have an "Ace Academy". But would be great if you have air commanders and an academy.

[@kellymcbright5456]

@@saulmedeiros8836 so obvious air generals in the german army (those with the blue uniforms) would finally find their place.

[@TurbulentEitri]

Paradox did mention looking into Air Marshals for the future iirc

[@maysef7722]

Pretty obvious reason so no surprise feedbackgaming didn't realize

[@Horticulture-Cosmo]

Effective Training Programs doesn't give air XP currency (aka the red star) IIRC, rather it gives more XP for an air wing itself, so they reach regular veterancy faster. It can be useful for training up an airforce from scratch

[@schwarzschild976]

That's what I thought too, since it is "Air Wing Training Experience Gain" and not "Air Experience Gain".

[@Archive41024]

That's still garbage

[@RobsRedHotSpot]

19:49 the wording is "abilities" not "agility". It just increases the mission efficiency for any plane on a CAS mission by 25%. It's unclear on the wiki what that affects (number of land battles eligible for air support?, number of planes in combat?, losses?)

[@davidbascom5781]

Everything in the game that says CAS now means small airframe. Which means some focus trees are soooooo broken with getting things like fighter 3 early bc they have a fighter and CAS boost

[@roboparks]

So the Stat applies to the Frame NOT its Dedicated Fixted Primary use?

[@kellymcbright5456]

@@roboparks The research bonuses refer to "Cas" or "fighter" in the focus trees, but will be applied to the small airframe. The engine seems to take over the old command lines and apply them to the new system. If you modd them using the term "small airframe", nothing happens in the game engine. It is just that bonuses for small fighters and CAS do both refer to the small airplane. And if you have a research bonus for each of them in the focus tree, you do in fact have TWO of them for the small airframe. If there is a country which has a "two-years-earlier"-bonus for cas, and one for fighters in it's tree, it does have two of them with the new system and can indeed rush towards the 1944-fighter. If you have stats bonuses by manufacturers, it works another way. Then, bonuses apply to CAS or fighter only, since they still follow the old ideas and you usually have manufacturers for either CAS OR fighters. I do not know one except the "commonwealth works" of Australia. Which is a serious problem, since You research both of them together with "small airframe 1940". But just one manufacturer bonus can be active at one time, thus the stats bonus can apply to only one of them and you have to decide whether you want boosted fighter OR boosted CAS. Both is not possible, unless you mod a manufacturer yourself to onw providing a bonus to fighter AND CAS. Which i can, but which leaves a feeling of uncertainty over the question: "do i manipulate the game to become too easy?" That's all really imbalanced shit, typical the overhasted "work" of paradox. And once again one is fooled if one pays for their fucking DLC.

[@leiaorgana5098]

They should share the bonus with medium airframe aswell for heavy fighter CAS

[@tbeller80]

Several focus trees need some cleanup with those airframe bonuses.

[@simplypepe1732]

I actually think Industry Liasons is S tier. The earlier you get fighter 2s the better.

[@Nick-yj8nj]

Research economy is always better, you just save time for other research and get bonuses faster.

[@roboparks]

why the AI never upgrades its frames . It doesn't need to. It will up date EQ but not the frame . Just like its navy . It never updates the hull only EQ. That's why in 1944 the Ai running around in Early : Converted . 1945 Germany is sending up IW fighters with T4 and T3 EQ ?? LOL Each New Frame should offer the AI a new Pre set template . Because the Ai will use Per Set Templates and upGrade those

[@antosqa7343]

Tbh the airframe itself is not that huge of upgrade for me imo. The MAIN research for air imo is the engine. And the industry liason doesn't increase the speed of research of it at all

[@ufuker5754]

Hard disagree Light air frame 1 45 agility 2 weapon slots Light air frame 2 65 agility 3 weapon slots Light air frame 3 85 agility 4 weapon slots like think 24,36,48 damage and 45,65,85 agility even without engines also cas 1 16max damage cas2 31 max damage (antitank2) and cas3 37 max damage air is best thing to Rush other than nuclear

[@frankunderbush]

Apparently carrier air groups do not operate at night. So having the UK night fighting spirit makes their navy massively OP.

[@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120]

Only in MP then. In SP if you know what you're doing, navy is already massively OP. You need huge speed and surface detection for spotters and huge speed and loads of light attack and torpedos for your deathstack and then GG. Light attack will chew screens apart and torpedos will sink capital ships. This is why cruisers are the best meta, especially light cruisers. I only bother with carriers as Grand Fleet UK because they are quite good at hunting down subs with Grand Fleet. You basically get small stacks of heavily anti-sub specialised destroyers paired with one carrier each, full on naval bombers and maxed radar, which is why UK is better at doing it. You will sink the whole German sub fleet in 3 months.

[@TauGDS]

2:40 it's definitely 'lee-ays-on' not 'lie-as-on'

[@Stouzough]

Yes, as it's coming from French

[@shaggybottomtext8363]

I wonder if paradox will ever add Air Marshals to Hoi4. It would make gameplay more enjoyable as you could also level up your air advisors like your navy and army and People like Herman Georing could have special mechanics (like how there is Wehrmacht revolt of hitler is assasinated there could be a luftwaffe revolt or events). Maybe this will come when they revamp all the old nations like Germany, Japan and America

[@penzorphallos3199]

Big features like that are in dlcs only and paradox already missed their opportunity with BBA and the dlc focus on airplanes

[@joelp7665]

At 2:38 your first try is correct, since paradox never fixed their typo of liasons into liaisons...

[@magni5648]

Veteran Air Instructors will keep having an impact at any time your wings are losing aircraft, not just when you're losing enough that the experience level of your air wings is dropping. In a stalemate-y war of attrittion in the air, your wings are going to keep gaining xp from their kills and missions while also losing some from getting planes shot down. VAI will reduce the latter and hence improve your overall rate of experience gain, regardless of wether it was positive or negative before adding the trait. It's actually the opposite of your thinking about snowballing: The only time it does nothing is when the air war is already such a one-sided blowout that you're barely losing anything. Or when your wings are max experience badasses. Continous strike I guess would work well when you design a fighter that has a rocket rail strapped to it and use those for CAS. The penalty for using a rocket rail is so small that it might be offset to the point where your fighter-bombers can now throw down with defending enemy fighters and still trade well enough. On a sidenote, Germany starting with Erich Hartmann in 1936 is really damn stupid. He was *14 years old* at that time, and about to become a glider aircraft instructor in the Hitler Youth. He only started training as a military pilot in 1940, and he went into combat the first time in October '42.

[@shhhvcnear]

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I would say compare it to how a hospital will take troops that are taking heavy casualties and greatly increase their rank (my heavy fighting units often only hover around fully trained but with hospitals they start ranking up easily). With Vet air instructors my wings are all max experience most of the time, it's incredibly powerful, XP gained vs loss is very close but this one blows that calculation wide open. For some maths - lets say you gain 10% xp in dog fights and lose 8% on average so each battle you gain effectively 2%xp. Now, with VAI you gain 10% and lose only 6% - thats 4% XP which is double of what you were getting before. As someone who has used it a lot, it's a powerful spirit. The best one of that slot, in most cases imo

[@FatheredPuma81]

25% Faster training means you can get trained planes out faster and -25% EXP loss from losing a plane will help further boost that. The latter is better for getting Seasoned and Veterans faster though.

[@ovvkeyvvo]

The -75% airframe costs have been left purely for people who have only the base game as they still have the old 1-5 upgrades from before BBA.

[@fogrepairshipakashi5834]

Please do the Navy Spirit Tier list. I have been totally lost trying to pick spirits.

[@emboman256]

I do think the steel wings spirit needs a little testing; as having more effective recruit airwings means they’ll likely take less losses at the lowest XP level, getting them up to higher ones faster + with less cost. Idk, just feels like it could have some potential, since it gives pilots a boost when they’re weakest

[@karn_son]

I used Continuous Strike in a game recently and it seemed my CAS were shooting down a lot of fighters, I noticed this because I kept getting the Pop-up of my CAS Aces shooting down other Aces.

[@Stouzough]

with BBA DLC?

[@karn_son]

@@Stouzough yep, playing as India as I was relearning the game

[@iloveallah5960]

6:15 that's really useful because if you can't gain xp from civil war. But if you can, it is worthless. But 0.1/day isn't bad considering b4 the update air chiefs would only give 0.08/day

[@RobsRedHotSpot]

2:46 "Liaison" is a French word and should be pronounced "Lee-eh-zons" not "Lie-a-sons"

[@davidbascom5781]

If air crew surveys didn't exist, branch independence spirit is and would be very very good. If you get it at the beginning of the game it pays itself of 2 or 3 times over.

[@RobsRedHotSpot]

2:02 as democratic UK, I find Independent Airforce is vital in the early game to get air experience via the cheaper Head of the Airforce. Assuming a historical playthrough, air experience is hard to come by before 1939 (attaché in China will net you some) and UK doesn't start with suitable designs for the start of the war. Once the war starts, air experience is plentiful and you can max out doctrine, get all the designs you want and then switch out for better spirits. I do the same thing with the Army Spirit Relief of Command. PP is also scarce for UK, so the cheaper advisors are a real boon. Edit: worth remembering that as democracies you can't grind air experience by sending volunteers to the Civil war or China. You can get a bit via attachés.

[@tbeller80]

Once the wars start you quickly end up with more XP than you know what to do with. Playing all the majors I get through the entire doctrine tree without having to touch any of the Focuses that actually help buy doctrine.

[@RobsRedHotSpot]

@@tbeller80 Yeah Relief of Command and Independant Airforce are actually tools to save PP rather than EXP in this case.

[@hatimzeineddine8723]

Definitely going to start using centralized control now. Already used air crew surveys then I'd switch off to industry liaisons but I might do somethings else idk.

[@pedrosaur2549]

You're underrating the industry liaisons. Every MP AC knows it's the single most important air spirit. That will save you a lot of time researching when you're rushing but more importantly you'll get it earlier to build efficiency earlier. Even if you only get like 50 days out of it, then that means your planes are building efficiency 50 days sooner. Definitely S tier for anyone rushing planes. Not necessary against bad ai but super important in MP

[@archer8849]

finally! been waiting for this. come on guys, give more likes! we need navy too. btw, one more thing about Independent Air Force is it also reduces the cost of air theorists of which rocket scientist is considered one (for those who wanna rush rocket and jet research). so potentially saving lot of PP at the cost of air exp which is more or less easy to get.

[@iwantcrawfish6110]

Ok Dave, I clicked the like button 10000 times. Can we have spirit of the navy video now. Please 🙏

[@bytesol]

When you click on a technology if you hover over the research time at the top it will show you all of the modifiers that will apply to it and how many days it is saving.

[@quirinoguy8665]

Air crew survey is amazing, literally the only one I ever use in all of my games.

[@acsimark]

Hi Feed! I use battlefield support to make OP fighters. You put a rocket on the plane to get it CAS then heavy MG so you benefit from continues strike +25% and +20% agility from combat unit destuction. Also there is a bug, if you select air laisons and cas research and switch back to air laisons you get 2x 15% research speed for chasis, thats not bad. GL

[@tredbobek]

During the war, Germany have run into the issue of losing too many experienced pilots, weakening their air force. Which I guess what Veteran Air Instructors would counter, but the game does not really go into this, you just play a "who produces more planes" game, which is said. Add the fact that all these % stuff is quite hidden in the air battle screen (not like land battle, where you can see almost everything if you hover over numbers) and it just turns into a very simplistic thing, and confusing for new players But hey, the plane designer is nice

[@FurryCruz]

Hungary also can get the 44 fighter in 1940 without pushing it

[@franklinclinton4539]

700 hours and i have never even looked what these spirits do

[@cdcdrr]

Branch Independence is HUGE! It is so, so incredibly hard to gain air experience in this game if you're not at war. You can find yourself left far behind in the dust if you have to excersize pilots, because it does NOTHING for your air experience. Your only option as a country that is not able to go to war early or hop into another country's war with volunteers, is your air advisors, or this spirit. And I mainly play mods where opportunities for wartime experience are even more sketchy. And with BBA, you can't even build designs without the experience. The 50 experience cost is a bitter pill to swallow, but stacked with an air advisor, you will finally be able to actually build the air designs you want, instead of having to impotently flap your wings like a lame ostrich trying to get airborne.

[@Vaelosh466]

Hopefully they add a way to use air force commanders so they would have a spirit of the air force academy. Otherwise I suppose they could modify aces but those have pretty limited customization. Also you pronounced liaison correctly, Paradox made a typo and forgot the second i so your text to speech didn't know what word it was probably. I think the idea with Steel Wings, Steel Hearts is that the USSR will only start to pump out new air wings about halfway into the war as their industry snowballs, and they need every plane in the sky right away the whole war to defend Moscow so no opportunity to train them over Siberia for a bit. So it's not that you would build up a lot of planes and deploy them all at once, but that it takes awhile for your air production to outpace your air losses as USSR when you need every scrap of metal to be fighting Germany for the first part of the war and once it does you'll want rookie air wings available to fight as soon as the planes are made. I'd still take Centrallized Control over it but there it is.

[@philipdawes2661]

CAG Night fighting - until after WW2 the Royal navy was the only navy that flew carrier aircraft at night as part of normal operations, hence the UK only opton.

[@fogrepairshipakashi5834]

Really? I knew the US was testing things out with the USS Saratoga and USS Enterprise, but I didn't Britain had already made it standardized.

[@philipdawes2661]

@@fogrepairshipakashi5834 Example - the Taranto raid was during the night and had been contingency planned for some time, so the capability was 'standard', if unusual and risky (eg, during Mataplan, they rushed the last carrier borne attack in order to avoid nightfall, so perhaps, static targets but moving targets much more difficult, possibly until the advent of search radar equipped swordfish).

[@Nick-yj8nj]

Bombers top design video is soooo much awaited.

[@tbeller80]

With BBA I completely skip medium airframes. I don't know what to do with them.

[@deilusi]

5:00 effective training program needs to halve the accident chance on training while giving you that bonus. 11:00 as air dies, they loose experience, aka new pilot join, he is not as good as previous one. This is good when you have 2000 planes to burn like Poland do, and you want to chip away some germany. your guys go down like flies, but that does not take them to greenhorns as fast.

[@kellymcbright5456]

i dont know what to do with the much air xp in most games. I raised the costs per doctrine from 100 to 200 and even know i come to have a surplus before end of the game (with smaller countries at least). So -15 % costs would make me not know what to do with all the xp.

[@Stouzough]

It depends on your strategy: some of us prefer early wars and securing air doctrine a little earlier is critical. But then, yes, in the mid to end game we don't know what to do with all that XP, it should be interchangeable with CP for extra support

[@kellymcbright5456]

@@Stouzough that is an idea. One could make that possible via decisions. It is not necessarily hardcoded.

[@Stouzough]

@@kellymcbright5456 right, on the other hand I also like to change some doctrine/advisor for late game, that’s also a possibility and a good reason for XP surplus

[@pipmeyer3889]

I was under the impression that Air Superiority was a straight +% or -% to the bonus land forces get in ground combat.

[@prinzderark6828]

4:00 actually it applies two times to airframes, so technically (well, practically) its a 30% boost, and its OP... like... 30% permament bonus....

[@neonflxrine6264]

i loved this stream :)

[@ozzo1542]

Efficent training programm ist for the experience of the individual airwing (rookie-veteran)

[@makiavel2925]

As italy (in blood alone) i would mike to focus on naval bomber. What air doctrine should i used ? And air spirit ? I also will need fighter to get air superiority too.

[@Zack_Wester]

wild guess but something tells me the XP penalty was not uppdated on the steel wings spirit because it requires the airwing to be uppdated. be it waiting a few days or them getting some XP so the system can see that ohh this number is out of data let me fix it quickly.

[@robkurtzman7113]

Historically . . . Air Force Academies don't appear in the world until after WWII. Hence no "Spirit of the Academy" in HOI4 makes sense.

[@pavlenikic9712]

idea: battle tactics tierlist.

[@joda7129]

if you are britain romania or australia you need industry liasons to rush the fighters. so does italy i guess if they also rush them.

[@jaxkommish]

"lee-a-sons"

[@Stouzough]

I'm mixed here: great video with useful topics, but in the end some testing by ourselves is still required. So maybe we didn't need a 27 min video? Don't get me wrong, you explain your thoughts process well, but in the end, I'm still looking for a (definitive) conclusion for each spirit Your pick of Air crew survey and Centralized control is of course sound to start with, I would add that mid- to late game we might switch to Airborne heroes, become then you would have (lots of) aces and it's just great.

[@joshuamantz3795]

CAG is available as the USA though? I know I've chosen it though quite a few of my USA runs.

[@owenselkirk3950]

15% reduction of days so for example imagine you need 300 days is 45 days that 45 DAYS of new production saved

[@TheKlink]

argh you said liaisons correctly the first time baiting interaction angry Chewbacca noises!!!

[@lithographer]

Hey Dave @FeedbackIRL what are you using to copy paste like that?

[@lithographer]

"snip and sketch", ah a lovely tool, thank you sir Dave

[@lisabeckham5519]

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[@scottmorrison670]

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[@Springsteen002]

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[@37thgungrunts]

These bots have a great grasp of engrish

[@akasperowicz]

Carriers are OP now. You should try those.

[@njmfff]

I am new to this game, so sorry if this is obvious, but how do you use airplanes on carriers? Is it automatically used or you have to manually transport airplanes to carriers somehow (let's say move them to carriers like you would to air base), and do you have to make specific airplanes for carriers or any plane will do?

[@akasperowicz]

@@njmfff When you have airplanes landed on carrier, those are used automatically in battle. You can send planes t ocarriers like you are sending planes to airfield - every fleet with carriers have icone of airfield on air map. Yes, you have to do specific planes - if you have newest DLC, you have to resarch torpedos and add those to your frame to make naval bomber and prduce carrier variant. If you do not have DLC, you have to resarch carrier naval bomber (small resarch icone inside plane resarch icone). Do not use fighters on carriers, they do almost nothing.

[@njmfff]

@@akasperowicz Ah, ok, thank you.

[@Monksy1337]

Tank printing video with new tank exploit from licenses? also that liaisons pronunciation was way off by that program, lee-ay-znz or americans lee-ay-zonz There's also a hard cap on strategic bombing that is actually used so the only real use for total devestation is to make cheaper planes and keep a bit of the stats

[@Shadow-Pe8]

Is airborne heroes not really good when you have the full ussr air tree and a really high ace generation rate

[@zzooeecastles]

ind airfare also reduces rocket scientist and addviser

[@MadpupYT]

This is why the UK gets a night penalty reduction for carrier aircraft. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Taranto UK using 21 outdated bi wing torpedo planes launched from a carrier wrecked Italian naval vessels at port during a night raid. This battle is what convinced the Japanese that carriers were the dominant naval vessel and was the inspiration for the attack on Pearl Harbor.

[@romanviking7890]

I love how dive bombing used to be S tier, but with the new DLC it's now the worst

[@vinisnasc]

Air training makes ur Air wing gets trained faster. A tier.

[@bombidil3]

Operational Integrity isn't meta? I figured it would come back since they increased the importance of agility again, and Op Int offers the highest agility buff.

[@bittenamehiereinfugen3713]

Continues strike says "ability" not agility so CAS makes 25% more damage industry liasons is great for countries that don't have 6 tech slots ans have to build a airforce. That could save you half a year on tech for example as China

[@willyvonfalknerheim4128]

I have to note for hoi4 staff why do you do regrouping rather then logistic

[@SoneliasT]

in actual fact, they misspelled Liaison. ;-)

[@lordluxembourg8777]

I think you're misunderstanding the 'branch independance spirit' because it take the same time to pay back as a silent workhorse would. So if your saying that it is a D tier then that would imply a silent workhorse is worse than it is made out to be but in reality theyre very useful.

[@hanen_5639]

Silent workhorses are overrated depending on which country you play. For USA its great when picked early. For Germany its never worth it.

[@melfice999]

@@hanen_5639 Depends. as some Germany builds take both of them, take everything and everybody that requires PP as fast as possible, and then changes them out for other things.

[@RealMcChaffee]

I'm going to add to this that the xp stacks with air reformers and some countries like the USA can effecitvely get it for either free or at a discount because some focuses come loaded with passive air xp. Getting 0.55 xp daily ticks as the USA pre-war is pretty big.

[@hanen_5639]

@@melfice999 when would one go for such a build? A super late strat? Usually you have picked both the war support guy and the extra spy guy about may 1937.

[@melfice999]

@@hanen_5639 early war is one build that requires you to work fast, and the aditional 30% PP gain after few initial focuses means you do not need to wait on focuses to get enough PP to declare simultaneous wars. And you don't really need WS guy due to focuses and general rise in WT already giving you enough for war economy on regular historical playthrough. Another one is tech rush build for something specific as it allows you to get design companies and theorists up and running earlier so you can tech cycle with higher efficiency.

[@kumayasei]

I'm going to create new accounts to give like with just so you do the Navy ones

[@cg1699576400]

What DLC adds "More Ground Crews"?

[@tygertyger77]

You said Liaisons right the first time. The guy who chirped up said it wrong.

[@ThunderFarter]

no naval video?

[@sylvananas7923]

What's even worse with air training on countries like france is the lack of fuel to begin with, and with how PD designed france to be basially a disarmed nation with massive debuffs no one country can compare to it feels really useless

[@emiloster2454]

Navy one pleeeeease! 🛥

[@mehmetsahsert3284]

0:30 the only nation in the entire game that had an air force academy at the start date of 1936 is Royal air force college cranwell. soviets get it in 1940s and even the damn us gets it in 1950s so its uındertstanable. considering the history of it air force is a specialty area that only appeared in last 30 years.

[@joaco4619]

i read gag fighting instead of cag fighting and im fucking dying

[@WilliamBrown-yl8tt]

ahl you mii yumms

[@zzooeecastles]

Feedback hi hi i cant leave a bug report think you could? CANT SCROLL ON DIPLOMACY SHIPS!! :( whole window now scrolls not the ship window:( makes spies and navy intel pointless

[@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120]

I like discounted recruitment on exp costs but... man, it's the fryin pan into the fire : do you want to spend 35 army exp/50 air exp now to save 200 pp later, or do you want to spend 200 pp now to save up some already scarce as it is exp for your designs ? I dunno man, I feel like spending the pp now is better because pp is cheap and comes early but you get loads of exp specifically when don't need it anymore. P.S : Intervention in Spain and China will earn you loads of air exp, true, but few nations can do it. In fact, most Democratic nations won't be able to do it.

[@user-sp6wm5cb1d]

PLS NAVYYY

[@johngalt191]

Abilities not agility for air support doctrine

[@roboparks]

Doctrines are Unbalanced because of the new system

[@saulmedeiros8836]

Is this an exploit? You can get much more agility with CAS than proper fighters. You can get +20% CAS agility (fighters gets only +10% with doctrines) with battlefield support and +25% with continuos strikes. Rockets gives no agility penalties, bomb locks gives small penalties only in CAS missions. So you can create a ultra agile CAS dogfighter than a proper fighter.

[@aidanjones4067]

The X hotkey drives me fucking mental. It makes me not want to use Cas

[@allyputira3986]

Industry Liasons is made worse because it doesnt seem to actually be working right now at all.

[@VarenvelDarakus]

where's Victoria 3 content 👀

[@yoshilovesyoshi]

In American English, "liasons" is pronounced the way you pronounced it the first time, because it's not English, it's French.

[@jeremyszpicki491]

Ok, but -75% base cost for the airframe in factory production? Good? Bad?

[@haukionkannel]

That is sad... So many options! Only two worth considering... So you can chose two slots from two options... Not very encouraging.

[@madboo1267]

first

[@Anarkopsykotik]

why the hell you do a tierlist where half is like "need some testing". Do the testing and then post the vid.

[@PikaPilot]

Feedback you bungalow, Effective Training makes your airwings get veterancy faster, not Air XP

[@ramiel7666]

......I kinda really wish he learned how to read....

[@roboparks]

a 5% buff to anything is useless . Any navy Focuses have been useless since MTG and now Plane Focus are worthless in BBA . The Vanilla game is completely unbalanced and almost unplayable. CAS wasn't even a thing yet in WW2 . Logistic Strikes were But NOT CAS. So the whole CAS thing is another Paradox Fake ww2 . The 1st true CAS was the P-51 Mustang . Then The Sky Raider (1950) . England with the introduction of the Spitfire Brits took its Hawker Hurricane's and turned them into Logistical multi - role bombers. They weren't true CAS . Now it's even easier to spam more CAS Than Before LOL which is silly. ESP when a CAS and a Small Fighter have the same Air -superiority rating??

[@drandren9093]

Bro what. What were German DIVE BOMBERS IE STUKAS then?!?