The MOST CONTROVERSIAL JERSEY NUMBER in Baltimore Ravens HISTORY | Scott Mitchell (1999 Ravens)

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In 1999, Baltimore Ravens quarterback Scott Mitchell announced that he was going to wear the #19 jersey. Turns out, by announcing that he was wearing this number, originally worn by Baltimore Colts legend Johnny Unitas, he caused a giant controversy that, in the eyes of many people, made him public enemy number one in Baltimore. This is the story behind Scott Mitchell, the 1999 Ravens, and the controversy behind the jersey and uniform number
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@82dorrin
@82dorrin 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Tripucka: Manning was going to wear #16 with the Broncos, but Frank Tripucka himself contacted the team and asked them to take his number out of retirement so Manning could wear it.
@SouthstanderRSM
@SouthstanderRSM 2 жыл бұрын
Manning still should not have worn it. Ray Bourque could have continued to wear #7 after it was retired by the Bruins, yet he skated to center ice and removed that jersey to reveal his new and legendary #77. Joe Montana did not wear Dawson’s number in Kansas Ciry.
@joeylawn36111
@joeylawn36111 2 жыл бұрын
😎
@reidcraig3739
@reidcraig3739 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was going to say, he contacted Manning as well to give him the blessing to wear the #18. JJ Watt contacted Goldberg's daughter to use his number which she blessed as well.
@JBTriple8
@JBTriple8 2 жыл бұрын
as A Broncos fan it doesnt bother me Manning is HOF and clearly the better # 18 yes Tripucka was hired as an assistant coach in Denver he then Played 4 Seasons in Denver yes it was great he was our first starter but Manning Gave us our 3rd Superbowl and set Records in Broncos Country Manning is the better 18
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 2 жыл бұрын
Scott Mitchell-Water Buffalo
@scawfan75
@scawfan75 2 жыл бұрын
What is so funny about this story is that the name "COLTS" is never mentioned in Baltimore anymore especially when Indy comes to play on the road, because the PA announcer at the Ravens' stadium calls them "The Indianapolis Professional Football Team" due to their hatred of the Colts relocating in the middle of the night.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to enforce Eminent Domain was classless, as well, neither, side looks particularly good here, blowing, "Ghost To The Post," meant that they were, already, on borrowed time, no doubt.
@reidcraig3739
@reidcraig3739 2 жыл бұрын
I would’ve love to here what the announcer would’ve been like if the Super Bowl was there in Baltimore in 2020 or 2021 and it was Washington vs Indianapolis.
@stevenbauer4799
@stevenbauer4799 2 жыл бұрын
and i knew fans in md. that said colts fans didn't become skins fans after colts left md.
@stevenbauer4799
@stevenbauer4799 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdaley746 bert jones playoff years pre injuries was the last hurrah for balt. colts. irsay was probably too drunk to understand e dom laws.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbauer4799 Fair enough, but, once the, possibility, existed, his hand was forced, the phenomenal success of Washington was another factor in their departure, however, indirect.
@ComedyJakob
@ComedyJakob 2 жыл бұрын
So since Scott Mitchell is the only Raven to ever wear #19 for the Ravens, that means that they retired the jersey as Scott Mitchell's number.
@bobma6342
@bobma6342 2 жыл бұрын
I guess.....LOL. He always wore #19 everywhere he went. His misfortune was being traded to the Baltimore Ravens. Had he gone to the New Orleans Saints none of this is an issue.
@leethecomedian
@leethecomedian 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah just like the Bears 7 was for Avellini instead of Halas. 😂
@ski8615
@ski8615 Жыл бұрын
🙄
@sofaking8228
@sofaking8228 2 жыл бұрын
We didn't boo him because he wore 19. We booed him because Scott Mitchell was a horrible quarterback.
@CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420
@CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420 2 жыл бұрын
thats why he was a horrible QB lol.
@chrisbeach423
@chrisbeach423 2 жыл бұрын
that makes sense 😄
@Reginald-Montgomery-Astird-III
@Reginald-Montgomery-Astird-III 2 жыл бұрын
No, we definitely were booing him for wearing 19, we were rightfully hating on him before he ever even took a snap, the disrespectful bum.
@LessGo7921
@LessGo7921 2 жыл бұрын
@@Reginald-Montgomery-Astird-III Exactly. As y’all should’ve
@dnasty312
@dnasty312 2 жыл бұрын
NFL Network's #1 *QB Tease* of All Time
@Matt_Fields_29
@Matt_Fields_29 2 жыл бұрын
If Johnny Unitas told Scott Mitchell it was cool, then case closed imo. If we are to consider Baltimore Ravens numbers 'Baltimore' numbers based on Unitas's opinion, then Unitas's opinion on his own number has the same authority. If it's his number, he can do what he wants with it. It's not blasphemy; technically it's ordained.
@richardadams4928
@richardadams4928 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I'm as big a Unitas booster as anyone: STILL the GOAT in my book. If Johnny says it's okay, Baltimore fans should respect that. No matter how good (or AWFUL) Mitchell was, his intent was to pay homage, not compare himself, and that's more laudable than not.
@tinakane4451
@tinakane4451 2 жыл бұрын
johnny unitas is part of the colts records, the ravens are a completely different franchise.
@Matt_Fields_29
@Matt_Fields_29 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinakane4451 It's a little more nuanced than that when it comes to Baltimore because of the circumstances under which the Colts left.
@RELLertainment
@RELLertainment 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardadams4928 how could u possibly think he the goat and you have seen tom brady? Rest In Peace to great Johnny U but he is no Tom Brady. This coming from Giants fan who also loved Ray lewis’s ravens
@ryanmcgoldrick8499
@ryanmcgoldrick8499 2 жыл бұрын
@@RELLertainment Unitas played in a league that Brady couldn’t have survived in, literally. Unitas also revolutionized the game. Led the first 2 minute drive and won the first overtime playoff game. He was Montana in the 50s and 60s. He also was a big part of Dan Fouts success as well as he served as his understudy in his final year.
@Garrett316
@Garrett316 2 жыл бұрын
The second I saw the number and logo, I knew what this controversy would be.
@bioLarzen
@bioLarzen 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I am literally facing a Johnny Unitas McFarlane figurine as I'm writing this - it's on the a shelf above my desk ;)
@JO-bq9tz
@JO-bq9tz 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@AustinCDavis
@AustinCDavis 2 жыл бұрын
This is funny because I just got a custom #19 Unitas Ravens jersey made last year to honor his legacy because Unitas always stuck with the city of Baltimore over the Colts franchise when they left in the ‘80s.
@richardsiemion5903
@richardsiemion5903 2 жыл бұрын
That is an awesome Jersey idea. Man.
@Techstrobe
@Techstrobe 2 жыл бұрын
being in baltimore i actually never heard about this controversy probably because i was born this year and wasnt really an avid football fan until the late 2000s, but as soon as i saw that #19 i knew what this was gonna be about, unitas' legacy remains here and is prevalent just about whereever you go in this city.
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Is it really? Like I’ve been a Baltimore fan most my life and lived in the city for about a year, and I feel like the Ravens at this point have supplanted whatever the Colts meant to the city. Two Super Bowls, a lot of wins. I could imagine this hurting more at this point in the franchise (and what an interesting time. The NFL has never wanted a franchise in Baltimore, and at this point they could have become anyone. They could have become an offensive powerhouse, but the chips fell another way) but…it seems kind of silly now.
@Techstrobe
@Techstrobe 2 жыл бұрын
​@@dstinnettmusic well any colts stuff isnt around anymore, its just a bunch of Unitas memorabilia and tributes within the surrounding counties.
@chucklynch6523
@chucklynch6523 2 жыл бұрын
Unitas legacy? What happened to Lance Alworth's legacy when Unitas was traded to the Chargers and was given Lance's number? AND, there were no two teams associated with #19, unlike in Baltimore
@josephmosijowsky2354
@josephmosijowsky2354 2 жыл бұрын
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@freddyc1995
@freddyc1995 2 жыл бұрын
You were born this year? Dang, you’re way smarter than my stupid babies
@timfalch1969
@timfalch1969 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the other QB in that game was also making his first start for his team. His name was Kurt Warner. Things went a bit better for him.
@vittoriaradesi1137
@vittoriaradesi1137 2 жыл бұрын
As a Dolphins fan I can't imagine anyone else wearing the #13. I was shocked seeing some other Dolphins wanting Tagovailoa to wear it when he was drafted. No matter what you think of Tua he isn't better than Marino
@SlobbySlobster69
@SlobbySlobster69 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Mitchell wore it too Edit: No bc they were on the dolphins at the same time.
@herogibson
@herogibson 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and i dont think marino would have been cool with that. Tua is pretty good, but he isnt in the same universe as marino was. And never will be
@__yklim
@__yklim 2 жыл бұрын
@@herogibson how tf do you know?
@__yklim
@__yklim 2 жыл бұрын
Tua is entering his 3rd year lmao wtf are you taking about 😂
@madmikeschannel8128
@madmikeschannel8128 2 жыл бұрын
@@__yklim Because it's Dan Marino
@ryanmcgoldrick8499
@ryanmcgoldrick8499 2 жыл бұрын
Unitas always said that he never played for the Indianapolis Colts. He was a Baltimore Colt. He also invented the 2 minute drive in the 1958 NFL Championship game. Jonny U tops my list to this day as the greatest quarterback who ever lived. Montana just following.
@happybeingmiserable4668
@happybeingmiserable4668 Жыл бұрын
Otto Graham and Unitas share the title because Otto mentored Johnny
@ryanmcgoldrick8499
@ryanmcgoldrick8499 Жыл бұрын
@@happybeingmiserable4668 umm no he didn’t.
@austinhamby3088
@austinhamby3088 2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of Jerry Rice when he went to Seattle. Number 80 was retired for Steve Largent, but they unretired it for him. Fans were upset until Steve Largent step forward and admitted he WANTED Rice to wear the number, the fans went quiet.
@redmangc
@redmangc 2 жыл бұрын
Which is funny to me, Rice was the greatest player ever by that point. If one person can take any number they want its him, If Jerry wanted Matt Hastlebacks number hed get it... rules be damned
@fawnlliebowitz1772
@fawnlliebowitz1772 2 жыл бұрын
Largent was good BUT he wasn't God. Unitas was.
@NuRm69
@NuRm69 2 жыл бұрын
Not only did Scott Mitchell get benched after throwing the pick 6 vs. the Bengals, he got demoted to 3rd string behind Charlie Batch and Frank Reich. Interesting fact: Mitchell's last game as the 3rd string in Detroit was against Baltimore....it makes you wonder if he didn't meet with the team during that game
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I could see it. NFL seems like it was way more shady when less people had 50mega pixel cameras in their pockets all the time.
@johna9994
@johna9994 2 жыл бұрын
So Baltimore had 3 former Lions QBs…. Wow
@feck2594
@feck2594 2 жыл бұрын
As a unfortunate die hard Lion's fan I hate Scott Mitchell and the organization for getting him . It set them back for years.
@BabyKnukleDustr
@BabyKnukleDustr 2 жыл бұрын
And Frank Reich would become coach for the colts
@NuRm69
@NuRm69 2 жыл бұрын
@@johna9994 Scott Mitchell, Stoney Case...not sure who the third guy is.
@bookiemane407
@bookiemane407 2 жыл бұрын
I live in FL and I got a good story. I'm only 35 now but in about 3-4th grade we had a substitute teacher come in, he was an old man named Earl. Earl introduced himself and told us his story that he used to be Johnny Unitas backup QB. On his hand he had a Baltimore Colts SB ring. Me and my buddy in class liked fb so we at some point went up during class and got his autograph and talked football. #15 Earl Morrall Baltimore Colts it said. Now I had this autograph in an old elementary school backpack up until my early 20s it somehow got thrown out or w.e. I just at some point several yrs ago thought about it and looked up Unitas backup since now we have computers unlike when I was a kid. What did I find!? Earl Morrall was the 2nd overall pick by the 49ers in 1956, is a two time all pro, two time SB Champion and one time league MVP. He lead the Baltimore Colts to a SB as a sub and won League MVP in 1968. Guess what his other SB was with the Undefeated Miami Dolphins as he was a sub for Griese and went 9-0 leading them to win the 1972 SB along with another pro bowl nod. So it turned out or old Substitute Teacher is also the GREATEST SUBSTITUTE QB ALL TIME! I thought about this when I was watching your video because one clip at the 9:22 mark shows the colts and the QB is number 15 not 19. That was Ole Earl Morrall!!!
@jackwillis6867
@jackwillis6867 2 жыл бұрын
Earl morrall had a good year in 68 when Unitas was hurt, but I think the SB against the Jets if Unitas played half the game it would have been a different game.
@bookiemane407
@bookiemane407 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackwillis6867 Unitas was the best but Earl was the best sub ever! Lol
@fawnlliebowitz1772
@fawnlliebowitz1772 2 жыл бұрын
However he either blew it or threw it against the jets. Colt players themselves said he took a dive. That team was superior in every way against NY.
@theOlLineRebel
@theOlLineRebel 4 ай бұрын
@@bookiemane407he was indeed. Y.A. Tittle, Bob Griese, Unitas. I thought also Tarkenton or Starr? As far as the SB, regardless have to recall Morrall played most of the season, and Unitas was out most of the season. That not bad.
@ocularzombie6679
@ocularzombie6679 2 ай бұрын
EARL MORRALL WAS YOUR SUBSTITUTE TEACHER?!?!?!?!
@darkchocolate3390
@darkchocolate3390 2 жыл бұрын
We don't need a 16 minute video for a clear cut answer: No. 19 in Baltimore belonged to Johnny Unitas and Baltimore fans were not happy about that
@ThomasCarrieri
@ThomasCarrieri 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the videos!
@AdamJ617
@AdamJ617 2 жыл бұрын
When I learned about his decision to wear #19, I had a hunch I might hear your famous catch phrase, and that’s exactly what happened at 14:24.
@shackdaddy7106
@shackdaddy7106 2 жыл бұрын
Johnny Unitas was the first superstar in the history of the national football league. It all started when the Baltimore Colts defeated the New York Giants 23 to 17 on December 28, 1958 which was the first football game ever to go into overtime. And along with Super Bowl III is one of the two most important football games in the history of the NFL.
@markmiller3308
@markmiller3308 2 жыл бұрын
Sammy Baugh was the first “Superstar” of the NFL. Even Red Grange would enter the conversation. Unitas was the first modern QB not the first “superstar”. I say this as a kid who’s Dad was a huge Untias and before that a Baugh fan so I revered both as a kid and still do..
@shackdaddy7106
@shackdaddy7106 2 жыл бұрын
@@markmiller3308 Sammy Baugh and Red Grange were certainly great players but not superstars for one reason. The NFL was not a major league at the time they played. And it was not on national TV until very late in Sammy Baugh’s career. The only professional sports that really mattered in this country and the first half of the 20th century were baseball, boxing and horse racing. Yes there were pro football fans but nothing like there was after John Unitas came along. In my original comment I pinpointed the exact date when the NFL became a major league in this country. December 28, 1958.
@markmiller3308
@markmiller3308 2 жыл бұрын
@@shackdaddy7106 Sammy Baugh appeared in multiple movies and was very well known. Not arguing that baseball was ahead of the NFL but by saying “it wasn’t on tv” makes no sense in that how did baseball players get famous without TV? Can’t claim that the NFL had no famous players because of a non-existence of something then say the complete opposite about some one else. Oh, wait..It’s the effing interwebs where no one admits they’re wrong.
@shackdaddy7106
@shackdaddy7106 2 жыл бұрын
@@markmiller3308 As I have said baseball was the.only professional major league sport in this country in the first half of the 20th century. At that time baseball was being played all over the country. You had the two major leagues. And the Pacific coast league which was an effect almost a third major league. And the Negro leagues. Plus hundreds of minor-league teams. In the days before TV, baseball was covered a lot more by the newspapers and was on radio on a daily basis. And there is no doubt that baseball is better on radio than football. And there is no doubt that football is better on TV than baseball. Although I think football is good on radio also because they are both stop and start sports. You have a pitch or play and then a break in the action when the announcer talks. Relatively speaking baseball was more popular than the NFL is today. Pro football was not a major league sport. There is no such thing as a minor-league superstar. No matter how good they are. College football was far more popular than professional football. In fact that’s where Red Grange became famous as the galloping ghost for the University of Illinois. And he was and still might be the biggest name ever to come out of college football. But after his first year of the NFL, He did not do that much. Also when Red Grange played in the NFL, The league was barely organized. It was just a group of teams playing each other without a set schedule. different number of games for teams and no championship game.
@markmiller3308
@markmiller3308 2 жыл бұрын
@@shackdaddy7106 you are how old, again?
@matthewconnors1011
@matthewconnors1011 2 жыл бұрын
Mitchell was Marino's backup starting in 1990 in Miami, looking like a career backup (eight passes in first three seasons) until Dan ruptured Achilles in week six 1993. Mitchell became starter until he separated his shoulder (yielding to Jags HC Doug Pederson and Steve DeBerg before closing out the campaign with a few uneven performances). He was October 1993 player of the month and despite the insanely small sample size of just seven starts, he sparked an insane free agency bidding war that the Lions "won." It looked like Minnesota had Mitchell locked up at 3yrs/10.5m and 2.5m signing bonus. One of their coaches said publically he's better than Favre, who had just made back to back Pro Bowls and about to sign his first restricted FA deal w GB. But Detroit's reliable backup Erik Kramer, their fallback in chasing Mitchell, shocked the league when the Bears snagged him for 3yrs/8.1m. Detroit panicked and upped their original offer (3yrs/7.5m w 900k bonus) to Mitchell to 3yrs/11.25 and a whopping 5m bonus; spurred on by rumblings of counter offers from Rams and Saints. By comparison, Barry Sanders (dominating the game since 1989) was playing under a 4yr/17.2m deal and 2.1m bonus. It's unfathomable how Mitchell got paid this much for doing so little. But I guess it happens when you sit behind a legend, take over for a handful of games and keep the ship afloat. Obviously as you saw his Lions career was less than stellar. One funny story that's up for debate is Lomas Brown ridiculously admitting on espn in 2012 that he was so fed up with Mitchell's poor play in 1994, he tanked on a block on Packers Sean Jones who ended up knocking Mitchell out of the game in Milwaukee, when GB was up 24-3.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
OT, but, Doug Pederson's time, with, the Eagles may have really ended terribly, but, he, (and, Nick Foles), both, got the job done, simple as that.
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
To this day I call a backup QB looking great his first few starts before being figured out and coming back down to earth the Mitchell Effect.
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdaley746 Hey, I can see your comments again! 😄😄😄
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
@@DolFan316 Great theoretical name, seriously.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
@@DolFan316 Random deletion returns, drat.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 2 жыл бұрын
FTR, the kid to whom you referred at 1:45 was/is Jeffrey Maier.
@mrmoose6619
@mrmoose6619 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. As an Orioles fan, I still hate that kid... and the guy who hit that ball. I kind of hope in a way whomever didn't vote for the guy who hit the ball was from Baltimore and didn't vote for him out of spite.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrmoose6619 Whoever he was.
@stevengrvp
@stevengrvp 2 жыл бұрын
Still remember Tony yelling at the ump
@jasonbouracee8687
@jasonbouracee8687 2 жыл бұрын
gawd i hate that f%&kin kid
@markbrian7179
@markbrian7179 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they thought that giving Scott Mitchell #19 would turn him into Johnny Unitas.
@richardadams4928
@richardadams4928 2 жыл бұрын
🙄
@dustinsindledecker154
@dustinsindledecker154 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah was more like johnny manziel than johnny unitas.
@lisanadinebaker5179
@lisanadinebaker5179 2 жыл бұрын
Bahahahaha
@Davepool-hs7vr
@Davepool-hs7vr 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video on Jamal Lewis running for 500 yards in two games against the Browns in 2003.
@HillValley85
@HillValley85 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I didn't know about this controversy. Also, Irsay would still be the most hated (at least among older generations). And, Jeffery Maier, (the kid who caught *that* ball) did a bad thing. But, I put that more on Richie Garcia, the ump who called it a HR.
@TPTGopher
@TPTGopher 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Angelos has entered the chat...
@craigcavaliere6744
@craigcavaliere6744 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad he didn't say it cost the Orioles the ALCS, as so many do. They forget that it tied game 1 which the Yankees went on to win, but the Orioles won game 2.
@TPTGopher
@TPTGopher 2 жыл бұрын
@Craig Cavaliere Only to be actually ump-cheated out of the pennant the next year, when the 2-out home run that cost them Game 2 (win that they go up 2-0 and with the momentum and Mussina going in Game 3 and almost certainly win that game and the series) came after strike 3 was called a ball.
@TheMisanthropist69
@TheMisanthropist69 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it sounds to me like the fans were being more disrespectful to Unitas than Mitchell was. Mitchell had the decency to ask the man himself and got permission, whereas the fans and sportswriters simply decided by fiat that they were now Johnny Unitas's spokespeople without even talking to him. Mitchell may have sucked, but if anything, I think this was a shameful display by the city of Baltimore.
@bioLarzen
@bioLarzen 2 жыл бұрын
If memory serves well there were rumours that top draft pick rookie WR Breshad Perriman would be wearing #19 when he was drafted in 2015. He could not ask for Unitas' permission as he sadly had died by then. Maybe the Ravens remembered the Mitchell fiasco, as Perriman eventually got #18. Perriman went on having #19 with most of his other teams: the Jets, the Bucs, the Lions and the Browns. But not with the Ravens.
@richardadams4928
@richardadams4928 2 жыл бұрын
Nice that you worked in an EARL MORRALL clip in highlights of a Johnny U-centric video...😆😆😆
@richardadams4928
@richardadams4928 2 жыл бұрын
I guess Earl continues to fill in for Unitas, on KZbin, years beyond the grave....🤔
@GNRACDCAIC
@GNRACDCAIC 2 жыл бұрын
Johnny U and Scott Mitchell. “One of these things is not like the other”
@ahplaya2dolla
@ahplaya2dolla 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Mitchell made BARRY hold out to get his deserved money; and then caused my man Wayne Fontes to get fired! Bump Scott Mitchell!!!
@karlcooper7016
@karlcooper7016 2 жыл бұрын
He made his reputation off of backing up Dan Marino.
@christopherengel7436
@christopherengel7436 2 жыл бұрын
The things that got me most of all was how bad Mitchell is/was at that point in his career. The guy was stealing money for many years. 1 good year with Miami + 1 good year for Detroit = millions apparently. Nobody ever would think Mitchell is the 2nd coming of Johnny U.
@ahplaya2dolla
@ahplaya2dolla 2 жыл бұрын
$50 million dollars for Matt Flynn after that? I'm just sayin'.
@christopherengel7436
@christopherengel7436 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahplaya2dolla nice call. Flynn got that without even pointing a gun at anybody. Who do think was better, Mitchell or Flynn? Probably can put big old Brock Ostweiler in there too I guess.
@GR-bn3xj
@GR-bn3xj 2 жыл бұрын
Mitchell was so good for Miami that year there was talk of the Dolphins trading Dan Marino while they still could get something for him. I honestly think Mitchell gets a raw deal. At the end he wasn't a great quarterback but for his first few years in Detroit he wasn't bad and had glimpses of being a great QB. It all depends on your expectations I guess. He put up some big numbers with Herman Moore. He made the playoffs. Detroit was relevant to a degree. They were never in the Super Bowl discussion but they were always in the playoff discussion. I just don't get a franchise that's been so bad who hates on one of the only quarterbacks to have any success over the last 20 or 30 years there. I guess it comes down to expectations again. I will say this, I was alive then and watched Detroit and they were an exciting team with him at quarterback in that era. Mitchell kind of reminds me of Ryan Fitzpatrick. You didn't know if that dude was going to throw for four or five touchdowns or three or four interceptions. You knew he couldn't win the Super Bowl but you knew he could probably get his team to the playoffs.
@ahplaya2dolla
@ahplaya2dolla 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherengel7436 Hey at least Mitchell took the most snaps after stealing the money.
@aaronholcomb237
@aaronholcomb237 Жыл бұрын
In the NBA, the Thunder has agreed not to use Seattle retired jerseys including 20 which hadn't been formally retired but would have been. The Hornets did not apparently retain the jerseys retired from the original franchise that moved to New Orleans and I don't know if the Pelicans kept retired numbers from Charlotte.
@Rutherford12
@Rutherford12 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Jeffrey Maier reference. Great video as always
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the Diamondbacks, seriously.
@GetBenched2010
@GetBenched2010 2 жыл бұрын
At least he asked. When Evander Kane took #9 with the second incarnation of the Winnipeg Jets, number worn by the guy who put hockey on the map in Winnipeg, Bobby Hull, he LIED about asking and it ended up being a PR nightmare for the Jets moving forward. Kane's career has been star crossed ever since. Karma is a mean mother.
@Gsnyderman5
@Gsnyderman5 2 жыл бұрын
Not like Bobby Hull is any better of a person than Evander Kane is.
@karlcooper7016
@karlcooper7016 2 жыл бұрын
One of the few times it could be said that the Lions hosed another team.
@thesnake_513
@thesnake_513 2 жыл бұрын
Cool story, great footage, interesting topic. Could have been a 7 minute video instead of 17 though.
@roseymalino9855
@roseymalino9855 3 ай бұрын
That jangling music in the background somewhat interfered with the dialog but only succeeded in being annoying. It needs to be slightly louder to make it fully unintelligible.
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know football fans in Baltimore were acting like SJWs even over 20 years ago. Imagine getting offended over the number of a player that not only never played for the Ravens, but also the rampant hypocrisy of not caring about the Browns moving to your city the same way the Colts moved to Indy. That apparently was perfectly fine.
@Garrett316
@Garrett316 2 жыл бұрын
The Browns move was tragic, but they were promised a new team in the move. Baltimore got totally screwed.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
Situational outrage, truly priceless.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
@@Garrett316 If they hadn't given away, "Ghost To The Post," they'd still be there, simple as that.
@SimUmpSGC
@SimUmpSGC 2 жыл бұрын
@@Garrett316 The Browns move was worse. Ohio never threatened to take the Browns away from Modell; Maryland planned on taking the Colts from Irsay.
@stevenbauer4799
@stevenbauer4799 2 жыл бұрын
modell SUCKS.
@2jjordan124
@2jjordan124 Жыл бұрын
Because Johnny U wore that number…that’s why no one wears that number for the Indianapolis Colts to this day!!!
@bobscott2429
@bobscott2429 2 жыл бұрын
At the 2:27 mark......did JG9 say "the Scott Mitchell ERA" or "the Scott Mitchell ERROR"?
@89Firegod
@89Firegod 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of weird to be so passionate about a player who played for the Colts and not the Ravens. I definitely get the city loyalty though.
@davidlafleche1142
@davidlafleche1142 2 жыл бұрын
So what? The world is going to Hell in a hand basket, and this guy thinks a silly uniform number is "controversial"?
@jamesdulany2176
@jamesdulany2176 2 жыл бұрын
Not weird at all. A lot of people in Baltimore (per my dad) refused to root for another team after Irsay did what he did. Some later began rooting for the Bills and the now-Commanders (and people that were born early in the 12-year interregnum by and large cheer for the Commanders). A lot of the former Colts players stuck around in the area after their playing days. The Towson University football stadium is called Johnny Unitas Stadium, and even to this day you see former Colts players on local football radio shows.
@joshbanner7398
@joshbanner7398 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see how that’s weird. Unitas was NEVER a fan of the Colts after they moved to Indy. He was in support of the Ravens the entire way leading up to his death. They even have a statue of him in front of M&T Bank stadium. Everyone remembers that the Ravens stole the franchise from the Browns, but don’t forget the Colts originally were stolen from Baltimore a decade before that. But only one team got to keep their history 🤔 If anything, it’s weirder to honor someone who never represented the city, which was more important to a lot of players (INCLUDING UNITAS) than a few colors and a symbol.
@sak7785
@sak7785 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshbanner7398 well the franchise that became the Colts was in Dallas before Baltimore, before that it was in New York.
@joshbanner7398
@joshbanner7398 2 жыл бұрын
@@sak7785 It shouldn’t have to be said that there’s a major difference between an expansion team (the Baltimore Colts) getting the remains of an ALREADY DISBANDED TEAM and taking a team and all it’s history and sneaking them out in the middle of the night.
@bonanzatime
@bonanzatime 5 ай бұрын
There's only one number 19 in the whole NFL, let alone Baltimore. And It Ain't That Punk!!!!
@tonireynosojr621
@tonireynosojr621 2 жыл бұрын
What team has the Colts records from the beginning to 1982 when they moved to Indianapolis .
@RealisticFisHed
@RealisticFisHed 2 жыл бұрын
A similar controversy also happened in the NHL just a few years ago, when Josh Ho-Sang of the Islanders took number 66 made famous by Mario Lemieux, who of course never played for the Islanders. Although Lemieux himself approved of Ho-Sang using the number, he still got a lot of criticism from fans and media at the time. Like Mitchell, he lasted with the team for less than a season's worth of games.
@stevenbauer4799
@stevenbauer4799 2 жыл бұрын
lemieux's #66 wasn't retired by the nhl like say #99 was.
@pwinson
@pwinson 2 жыл бұрын
TJ Brodie also caught grief for wearing 66 in 2010-11 for Calgary. Its ridiculous how incredibly oversensitive some fans are about this. I'm a Bruins fan and have watched a ton of crappy defenceman around the league (Tom Gilbert, Ryan Parent) wear #77 and I couldn't care less.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbauer4799 Wayne Gretzky has more assists than any other player has points, Mario Lemieux's career was cut short, (through no fault of his own), as terrific as he was, Mario Lemieux was remembered more for what he, "might," have done, you can't retire numbers league-wide based upon hypotheticals, simple as that.
@stevenbauer4799
@stevenbauer4799 2 жыл бұрын
@@pwinson bourque gave up espo's no. 7 so it could be retired.
@stevenbauer4799
@stevenbauer4799 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdaley746 mlb retired robinson's #42 even tho he only played for dodgers and does not have like 60 statistical records to speak of. but that is another story...
@boogitybear2283
@boogitybear2283 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious knowing the Detroit Lions chose Scott Mitchell over the guy that almost got them to the Super Bowl with Erik Kramer.
@herogibson
@herogibson 2 жыл бұрын
Bro… if i ask you what time it is. Skip the part where you tell me every detail how to build the watch
@Mintman83
@Mintman83 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from the Baltimore area and all this about Johnny U is all true he was much loved and anything resembling him is held high
@phillylutz5
@phillylutz5 2 жыл бұрын
This seems a little ridiculous. The Ravens weren’t the Colts so I think this was a whole lot to do about nothing.
@brianoneill7186
@brianoneill7186 2 жыл бұрын
Part of the stereotype, which actually is based on fact, that Baltimore is full of idiots.
@gluserty
@gluserty 2 жыл бұрын
That's one way of looking at it, and a way that can be considered logical. I think if Mitchell was good at that point (he actually wasn't THAT bad, just not great, but I did see him run a few smooth 2-minute drills) maybe it would've been accepted. I just think that #19 should be a number left alone, as Unitas is a father of the modern NFL passing game and an all-time great of legendary proportions. NFL icon, community icon...yeah, John Unitas.
@universe-ie2mk
@universe-ie2mk 2 жыл бұрын
Unitas' statue is at m&t bank stadium and not in indy. Also, unitas was there when the team moved back to baltimore. He's a colt, but he's a baltimore colt.
@gluserty
@gluserty 2 жыл бұрын
@@universe-ie2mk I remember Unitas being on the sidelines here and there. As a whole, the Baltimore Colts players were a part of the community; as much as I love the concept of the Ravens, the Colts should've stayed in Baltimore (the Browns, same goes for them. Cardinals, Rams, Oilers, Raiders...I see them differently).
@floodsterssportszone3814
@floodsterssportszone3814 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine of Chris Godwin didn't give Brady #12 when he joined the Buccaneers 💀
@jasonfischer8946
@jasonfischer8946 2 жыл бұрын
The world would end, I guess.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
Probably, little, I, guess.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonfischer8946 No, but, Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp, and, Matt Gay, stopped the world from ending, they did.
@jasonfischer8946
@jasonfischer8946 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdaley746 ?
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonfischer8946 The Playoff Game against the Rams, I live in Tampa Bay, and, people still treat it, like, A Greek Tragedy, despite, the fact that Tom Brady had a QBR of 14, Matthew Stafford had a QBR of 68, and, at one point, the Rams led the Game, 27-3, but, to hear them tell it, the, "better," team/QB, lost, never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
@nuwildcat90
@nuwildcat90 2 жыл бұрын
When Barry Bonds signed with the Giants as a free agent, he asked to wear the retired #24 which Willie Mays wore (FWIW, Mays only wore #24 since he couldn't get #42 to honor Jackie Robinson). While Mays agreed to let Bonds, his godson. wear it, the resulting uproar resulted in Barry wearing #25 to honor his father, Bobby Bonds.
@teen_laqueefa
@teen_laqueefa 2 жыл бұрын
Before he became a machine, a literal walk or homerun, and I'm fine with that, let them juice as long as everyone else has the opportunity lol
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of, I think the Pirates need to take #24 out of circulation.
@fawnlliebowitz1772
@fawnlliebowitz1772 2 жыл бұрын
I can see that, Bonds was a cheater, Say Hey was great.
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this controversial? Unitas was a Colt/Charger not a Brown/Raven and Mitchell wore #19 wherever he played. This is a non-story.
@harbour08
@harbour08 2 жыл бұрын
.... yeah you aren't from Baltimore lol Even those old Colts legends don't claim indy, but the Ravens
@luksaantono2311
@luksaantono2311 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that’s a haircut you can set your watch to!
@Catdaddyacab
@Catdaddyacab 2 жыл бұрын
Haha damn the first thing I always think of with Johnny U
@KnightBoat
@KnightBoat 2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching the Super Bowl... if people don't support this thing it could go under!
@fawnlliebowitz1772
@fawnlliebowitz1772 2 жыл бұрын
And his shoes.............
@altfactor
@altfactor 2 жыл бұрын
There is currently no one wearing number 19 on Baltimore's other major sports team, baseball's Orioles. Perhaps that number is officially or unofficially retired across all of Baltimore professional sports.
@itsjakesports
@itsjakesports 2 жыл бұрын
Former Oriole Chris Davis wore 19 for years
@Slade347
@Slade347 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsjakesports Sufficient to say, the Orioles won't be retiring that number any time soon, lol.
@harbour08
@harbour08 2 жыл бұрын
@@Slade347 .... why you have to rub that in man lol🤣🤣🤣
@gregorycyr9272
@gregorycyr9272 2 жыл бұрын
Orioles 🙄
@bobma6342
@bobma6342 2 жыл бұрын
I could understand if he was an Indianapolis Colt, but Johnny Unitas didn't play for the Baltimore Ravens franchise, which used to be the original Cleveland Browns.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 2 жыл бұрын
This unofficial Official Jaguar 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about what another player who wore Raymond Berry’s #82 for the Ravens, Shannon Sharpe, said after his first game as a Raven.
@E.HondaSF
@E.HondaSF 2 жыл бұрын
How'd he not bring that up?!
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@E.HondaSF I’m guessing he only has a limited number of links he can include with each video.
@E.HondaSF
@E.HondaSF 2 жыл бұрын
@@CTubeMan ahh prob right!
@tombodette2429
@tombodette2429 2 жыл бұрын
Over doing the ads a bit I see.
@michaell874
@michaell874 2 жыл бұрын
The fans were wrong because Johnny Unitas played for the Colts. Had he played for the Browns or Ravens, it may have been more understandable, but he didn’t, as these are two totally different teams with the only commonality is the city which Unitas and Scott Mitchell played for. Would it not look stupid if fans protested a rookie linebacker for the Jets who wanted to wear the number 56 because it was Lawrence Taylor’s old number?
@bjrollick5262
@bjrollick5262 2 жыл бұрын
As a Steeler fan I’m hoping they’ve pulled #7 from circulation. #43, #36, and #86 need pulled also. I can’t imagine anyone else ever playing for the Steelers that isn’t Polamalu, Hines Ward, or Bettis wearing those numbers.
@UserName-ts3sp
@UserName-ts3sp 2 жыл бұрын
those 3 numbers are out of circulation. what pissed me off is when they gave #53 immediately to kendrick green. the disrespect to pouncey.
@patrickvolk7031
@patrickvolk7031 2 жыл бұрын
If I can get used to people wearing Lynn Swann's or John Stallworth's numbers, or Rocky Blier.
@PENS68
@PENS68 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see how this would be a big deal Unitas played for The Colts, Mitchell played for The Ravens two different franchises. I understand The Colts were in Baltimore and Unitas played for The Colts while they were still in Baltimore, but it's two different franchises.
@PYLrulz1984
@PYLrulz1984 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is, it’s about the football history in Baltimore. If the Colts were an ass team, that had retired a number, left, and a new team eventually moved/were created and called that town home, yeah, there probably wouldn’t be much care if that number gets used again. Because it was a legends number, for a great team that the city highly revered, even if the Ravens only connection is they play in the same city that Unitas once played in, it’s gonna rub people the wrong way, even if Unitas himself had no problems with a player wearing his number.
@evancortez2
@evancortez2 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine someone else wearing number 9 for the Redskins or 16 for the 49ers, or 13 for the Dolphins, or 12 for the Steelers, Cowboys and Patriots - you get the idea
@JonPITBZN
@JonPITBZN 2 жыл бұрын
Those aren't really good comparisons, since all of those are the same franchise and all of them are more recent. Unitas played for the Colts, not for that Other Baltimore Franchise, and he played more than 50 years ago. The closest comparison I can think of would be a player wearing #1 for the Houston Texans. Which has already happened twice.
@madmanszalinski
@madmanszalinski 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say 7 for the Redskins as well...and Broncos
@sak7785
@sak7785 2 жыл бұрын
As a Cowboys fan I wouldn’t care if they issued any of their numbers that are out of circulation to a new player. NFL rosters are too large to be able to retire numbers, that’s why the Cowboys started the Ring of Honor. Giving a player a former stars number has also proven to be a great motivator. Plus it actually helps keep the memory of former greats alive because they get talked about when the number is issued & even sometimes during games.
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 2 жыл бұрын
But these numbers are retired(with the exception of Brady in New England). That's the difference. And it's no one playing for the Flyers wears #31 even though the team never officially retired Lindbergh's number.
@evancortez2
@evancortez2 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmanszalinski And just like Scott Mitchell, another failed QB Dwayne Haskins had the nerve to wear number 7 for the Redskins - thankfully he didn't it wear it too long before he was shipped to Pittsburgh
@PowerPackers90
@PowerPackers90 2 жыл бұрын
8:37 Art Donavan.....so how much did he weigh?
@JacaboBlanco
@JacaboBlanco 2 жыл бұрын
9:20 and this is why the Ravens have a Johnny Unitas statue in front of the stadium. Stand up guy!
@bobma6342
@bobma6342 2 жыл бұрын
The way I see it this would be like the Houston Oilers retiring number 34 (Earl Campbell) and after the team moved to Tennessee to become the Titans, the Houston Texans issue the number 34, which they did for linebacker Troy Hairston.
@DwayneIsKing
@DwayneIsKing 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, the fact that the Ravens realized their 2 games in the season is kinda admirable. Some teams stick with someone for years and years despite the cries from everyone with a brain. So you gotta hand it to them
@dc1397
@dc1397 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but when the Lions got Mitchell from Miami, everyone called him "Stump" Mutchell. Yes, there is the real Stump Mitchell who had 10 NFL seasons and now is a coach for the Browns. I believe the news outlets, coaches and fans called Scott "Stump" for the first year or two until he threw a hissy fit about it.
@seanswinton6242
@seanswinton6242 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he was a RB/KR/PR at The Citadel-a military college in Charleston, SC. The same college Nick Buoniconti's son, Marc attended there until him life changing injury on the Bulldog football team.
@dc1397
@dc1397 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanswinton6242 I don't know if Miami was calling Scott Mitchell "Stump" before we got him or not. But Scott Mitchell's nickname was Stump for a year or two.
@ColtsPacers1
@ColtsPacers1 2 жыл бұрын
meanwhile, the Colts have kept all numbers retired since Baltimore to this day
@DaveKostka
@DaveKostka 2 жыл бұрын
As they should, the Colts are the Colts regardless of geographic location.
@patrickwagner6247
@patrickwagner6247 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know anyone who complained about this. Lived in Baltimore my whole life. First time hearing this. I know Unitas refused to associate with Indianapolis and has a statue out front of the stadium too. This is all news to me.
@seanswinton6242
@seanswinton6242 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the principle, but it doesn't look right. Johnny Unitas like Bert Jones, are my all-time favorite Baltimore Colt QBs. I guess it's the colors. Johnny Unitas was a Colt not a Raven. He wore blue and white. That jersey is what he wore in his peak. Mitchell asked the man, and he said yes. Unitas wasn't a Raven and Mitchell sucked, so Unitas' legacy is intact!
@patrickwagner6247
@patrickwagner6247 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanswinton6242 I think it sounds pretty dumb since it is a different team. I don't remember ever hearing of this either, but I'm not surprised that people had issue with it. People have issue with everything. We just didn't have social media platforms to voice it like we do now.
@fawnlliebowitz1772
@fawnlliebowitz1772 2 жыл бұрын
You obviously never went to a game while Mitchell was playing.
@robertpaige4505
@robertpaige4505 2 жыл бұрын
I can only assume a video covering a near-washed Jerry Rice doing the same thing in Seattle is on the table?
@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 2 жыл бұрын
At least with Jerry Rice, people associate him with the #80 jersey, and he’s regarded by everyone as the greatest WR of all time Completely different situation compared to Scott Mitchell taking the number of arguably the greatest QB in NFL history at that point
@robertpaige4505
@robertpaige4505 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Yeah, it was a different situation. Mitchell was honoring his childhood hero. Rice was honoring his own ego. It's like if Michael Jordan finished his career in Houston and wanted #23, which was already retired for Calvin Murphy. Yeah, Jordan's the superior player, but it's still a dick move.
@zachbernheisel2239
@zachbernheisel2239 2 жыл бұрын
In 1999, I'm pretty sure people considered Joe Montana the GOAT, not Unitas.
@sak7785
@sak7785 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure he said Unitas was the goat in Baltimore sports.
@richardadams4928
@richardadams4928 2 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show ya, recency bias makes people WRONG alla time.... 😲😉
@stevenbauer4799
@stevenbauer4799 2 жыл бұрын
t least montana didn't take #16 in kc and settled for #19.
@jeffanderson3962
@jeffanderson3962 2 жыл бұрын
Not me (not necessarily saying Unitas was that either but I always thought Montana was kind of overrated)
@Skinnyd4
@Skinnyd4 2 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea - if you didn't want any Baltimore Ravens wearing #19 - then officially retire it (rather than just keeping it out of circulation). No one in Baltimore would have objected. It's just that simple.
@DaveKostka
@DaveKostka 2 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous concept for the RAVENS to retire a jersey number because it was once worn by somebody who played for the COLTS. I don't care if they played in the same city, is it literally two entirely different franchises.
@gr8daynegb
@gr8daynegb 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKostka Should do what Packers do with #5. They haven't retired Hornung's jersey but due to who they already retired for jerseys and that with training camp rosters you have to fit all those in training camp with a number the #5 is practically only worn in preseason and then player takes another number when it becomes 53. Think Ravens fans could get over themselves if 19 was only a preseason worn number.
@DaveKostka
@DaveKostka 2 жыл бұрын
@@gr8daynegb the difference with that scenario is the fact that the Packers have remained in Green Bay. When a franchise relocates, they take the history with them. The Ravens are in no way affiliated with the Colts franchise.
@gr8daynegb
@gr8daynegb 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKostka fully aware it's two franchises and in reality anyone should be able to wear #19 for Ravens regardless. But if they not to retire the number the Packers way of dealing with the #5 jersey seems like the ideal compromise. Different sport but many in Milwaukee wanted numbers associated with Hall of Fame Braves players to be retired by the Brewers back when. Only one that got that treatment was Henry Aaron....and that was because he actually played for both teams.
@DaveKostka
@DaveKostka 2 жыл бұрын
@@gr8daynegb in the case of Aaron, because he played for both teams, I do agree with it.
@vollrathfgc
@vollrathfgc 2 жыл бұрын
For like half the video I was wondering why then suddenly Unitas popped in my head and it all made sense
@skittlecar1
@skittlecar1 2 жыл бұрын
Notre Dame does it right. When you get issued your number, you get a list of players who wore that number before you. That way you know who you're honoring.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 2 жыл бұрын
Since you mentioned baseball quite a bit in this video this seems to be an unwritten rule that was violated. I also think if anyone in Baltimore was thinking clearly they’d realize that Mitchell would be the last person on whom to vent their wrath.
@Donald38
@Donald38 2 жыл бұрын
damn no historian takes?
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 2 жыл бұрын
Unwritten rule? This would be like saying no one who's on the Mets should ever wear numbers 3, 4, 5, or 7 in respect for Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rockhound6165 The better analogy is that the Mets couldn’t have issued any numbers that belonged to the New York Giants or Brooklyn Dodgers. In this instance the Ravens didn’t officially (for you Donald38) retire #19.
@410balla
@410balla 2 жыл бұрын
They never let anyone wear 19, but I think it will change soon because of the new rule, WR’s and defensive players are taking up the single digit QB numbers, so the Ravens will be forced to relinquish 19 to a QB soon and number 1
@xClutchTalentx
@xClutchTalentx 2 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck is there an ad every minute
@Erichev
@Erichev 2 жыл бұрын
It's not until the 7 minute mark that you get the reason. So, be prepared. And if you're watching this I'm willing to bet you knew why before deciding to watch the video in the first place.
@rexblade504
@rexblade504 2 жыл бұрын
Football fans can be silly at times. Like we get really passionate and upset over really meaningless things in the grand scheme of things. Like there are tons of problems to get angry about in the real world, but instead we focus on numbers on a jersey. A player is more than a number and their legacy can't be tarnished by another player wearing that number
@jasonfischer8946
@jasonfischer8946 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Baltimore and think that this is a stupid controversy.
@jamesdulany2176
@jamesdulany2176 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Kyle Hamilton asked to wear Ed's number. Would you seriously be OK with that?
@jasonfischer8946
@jasonfischer8946 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdulany2176 Yes. I don't care. It's just a number. It doesn't have magic powers. You have over 50 players on a team with a number and 99 available. After a while, they get repeated.
@marcus813
@marcus813 2 жыл бұрын
This wasn't the same franchise that Unitas played for, so it's not that deep to me. This isn't the same as someone playing for the Bucs and requesting jersey No. 63 (Lee Roy Selmon).
@jgangstahippie
@jgangstahippie 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of in 2008 Yankee reliever LaTroy Hawkins wore #21 to honor Roberto Clemente. The #21 was not worn by a Yankee since 2001 when fan favorite Paul O'Neil retired. LaTroy was booed harshly by the Yankee fans. LaTroy had to change his number to 22.
@gluserty
@gluserty 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the Scott Mitchell signing at the time: I was like "There's a tall man with human body parts, this is going to be lit!". But yeah, seriously, Mitchell should've left #19 alone, maybe go with #16, like how Joe Montana wore #19 in respect for Len Dawson and his #16. Mitchell would've been better off wearing a John Unitas Halloween mask. Humorously, Mitchell barely played for the 1999 Ravens,which opened the door for Tony Banks and his okay-ness (who then opened the door for Trent Dilfer).
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 2 жыл бұрын
The difference with Montana is that #16 was retired in KC. #19 wasn't retired by the Browns/Ravens. Also, this also wasn't a situation like the Flyers who haven't retired #31 for Pelle Lindbergh but no one has worn #31 since he died. But I dunno, maybe you can make a case for Bernie Kosar but I doubt it.
@gluserty
@gluserty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rockhound6165 I see your point, and honestly the Mitchell thing isn't a big deal to me (personally, I would've worn a different number though). I say "No" about Bernie Kosar though, mostly because the Ravens are in the books as an expansion team, while the Browns franchise was listed as inactive from 1996-1998 (any consolation there is that the Ravens didn't gain much purchase in those years, and didn't begin to wear the look of a winner until the 2nd half of 1999). In mentioning this, I've always liked Unitas's attitude about the Colts move; I can relate to such loyalty.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of, John Brodie allowed his #12 to come out of retirement with the 49ers when Trent Dilfer signed there. One of them has a bust in Canton, and it’s not the one with a Super Bowl ring.
@gluserty
@gluserty 2 жыл бұрын
@@CTubeMan John Brodie's not in the Hall of Fame though; I'm sure something of his is in the building ng, but no bust (really good career, and he is in the College Hall of Fame).
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@gluserty You’re right, I just assumed Brodie was in. Otherwise, I think it’s analogous to the Unitas/Mitchell situation.
@TenshinhanIsKing
@TenshinhanIsKing 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine hating someone over a jersey number
@mikec6678
@mikec6678 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Growing up with a father that was a diehard Lions fan his entire life, I saw firsthand how mediocre and often bad Scott Mitchell was. He obviously didn't do his research on who wore the number 19 and how special, important and iconic that jersey is in Baltimore. Billick should have let him know and convinced him not to take that number and make himself the most hated man in Baltimore
@jamesdulany2176
@jamesdulany2176 2 жыл бұрын
The name of the kid that caught the ball is Jeffrey Maier.
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
Diamondbacks put matters right.
@jamesage24
@jamesage24 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdaley746Wedging in the Eagles every chance you get is annoying enough. Now it's the Diamond Backs. Insufferable!
@matthewdaley746
@matthewdaley746 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesage24 Alas, they were superior.
@mikeandreach3777
@mikeandreach3777 2 жыл бұрын
I get that Baltimore fans had a fit. But this isn’t the Baltimore COLTS. This is the Baltimore RAVENS. End of story
@nuwildcat90
@nuwildcat90 2 жыл бұрын
The Baltimore Modells (er, Ravens) adopted the Baltimore Colts records since the NFL agreed to let Cleveland keep the Browns logo and statistics in return for the city of Cleveland stopping its lawsuit against the NFL.
@universe-ie2mk
@universe-ie2mk 2 жыл бұрын
No, the number thing is more of a pro football in baltimore thing. The ravens (and i am a fan) are basically designated as an expansion team, while the browns are an active team with a pause in operations from 96-98.
@Visionary_Watcher
@Visionary_Watcher 2 жыл бұрын
@@universe-ie2mk only an expansion team on paper and not in reality
@timhefty504
@timhefty504 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not into retiring numbers, doesn't matter who it is. Can't retire too many numbers in this sport given the roster size.
@royveteto4134
@royveteto4134 2 жыл бұрын
would the nfl team in indianapolis ever allow the nfl team in baltimore have the name colts back. maybe this is something that the league could address by saying , " if a team moves to another city then they relinquish the team name , colors, and history.
@watcheroffools366
@watcheroffools366 2 жыл бұрын
Johnny Unitas is from Pittsburgh originally
@davidg1612
@davidg1612 2 жыл бұрын
Why would it matter? The 19 of the Ravens did not carry the same legendary status as it would with the Colts and don't share history with them. If he had joined the Colts and asked for the number, THEN I understand the outrage.
@torgman
@torgman Жыл бұрын
So, it was insulting to Johnny Unitas's legacy in Baltmore to wear that jersey number. It took long enough to make that point.
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 2 жыл бұрын
14:24 The moment you all came for
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I came all right. (Rim shot.)
@DavidSmith-xs3or
@DavidSmith-xs3or 2 жыл бұрын
When Mitchell got benched for Charlie Batch in Detroit, Batch was no improvement. In a Lions home game against the Steelers, Batch got sacked so many times that the Lions fans got so fed up, they started cheering for the Steelers. In fact, Batch mentioned this after his career with the Lions was over. He'd be flat on his back after getting slammed and he could hear the fans rooting against him.
@bjnt922
@bjnt922 2 жыл бұрын
This would be like a quarterback coming to the Houston Texans and wearing number 1 without asking Warren Moon first. Lonnie Johnson did wear it as a DB last season but I don’t know if he asked Moon first.
@wuttamark8584
@wuttamark8584 2 жыл бұрын
lol What? Warren Moon? I mean, he was good in his day but he was never some transcendent legend. Its nothing like that at all.
@bjnt922
@bjnt922 2 жыл бұрын
@@wuttamark8584 Tell that to the people in Houston. He’s in the Hall of Fame for a reason.
@wuttamark8584
@wuttamark8584 2 жыл бұрын
@@bjnt922 Yeah he's a legend in HOUSTON. That doesn't make him some all-time great. He was HOF worthy but he's not some transcendent player that players feared and opposing fans hated and racked up titles through his career. Maybe Canada sees him that way like with Doug Flutie
@markmoseley5759
@markmoseley5759 2 жыл бұрын
o.k. I know it's saying a lot for Mitchell to use Unitas' number and well, the importance of history has to be respected.... HOWEVER, he ASKED Johnny U HIMSELF.... THAT'S being a MAN.... had he'd been told NO... BY Johnny U himself... he'd have respected that...... so.... the uproar wasn't from the two people that this effected the most... Johnny and Mitchell......
@genix5700
@genix5700 2 жыл бұрын
Entitled colts fans don't realize that the Ravens are a new/different team with their own history.
@dennisbessey5161
@dennisbessey5161 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot Scott Mitchell even played for the Ravens
@TWCAlex802
@TWCAlex802 2 жыл бұрын
He was actually very good w/the Lions in 1995. So much great QB play for that year
@dustinsindledecker154
@dustinsindledecker154 2 жыл бұрын
Well he had Herman Moore who at the time had a record breaking receiving year.
@TWCAlex802
@TWCAlex802 2 жыл бұрын
@@dustinsindledecker154 Brett Perriman was great that year too
@thescatman5029
@thescatman5029 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Baltimore: Be mad at Mr. Irsay, not Mr. Mitchell.....!
@BuckshotPA1
@BuckshotPA1 2 жыл бұрын
Any Baltimore sports fan of a certain age revers the numbers #19 and #5!
@leogetz3570
@leogetz3570 2 жыл бұрын
So the fans of the team that moved from Cleveland to Baltimore are upset about a number?? Yeah, I figured this was the controversy
@stevenbauer4799
@stevenbauer4799 2 жыл бұрын
'never go thru the drive thru. you know why? they #k you. and they know you will be a mile away before you figure it out...' leo getz thing done.
@leogetz3570
@leogetz3570 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbauer4799 yep!!!
@mikegiralico7642
@mikegiralico7642 2 жыл бұрын
The people of Baltimore surrendered the rights to anything Colts related once they stole the Browns from Cleveland.
@teen_laqueefa
@teen_laqueefa 2 жыл бұрын
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