Oh no! Looper Threads Hanging Off Serger and Overlocker

[@AbisDen]

Two years on and we still see lots of people suggesting tension problem - let's share this video! & How about the dreadful music ! Haha! just watched the video through, now I can see why I have so many comments about it.

[@znycelondon5313]

Abi’s Den Maybe check the quality of the video prior to posting😊

[@Zodliness]

Being a total novice with an overlocker, I found your information and guidance about tensioning answered why my stitches were looping on the edge. Thanks Abi. 👍

[@vivienlee610]

What music?!!

[@rhurley2439]

Thank you! Spent like 2 hours messing with my serger tension with no luck. Adjusted the blade and voila! It is awesome! Thank you!!!

[@AbisDen]

Glad it helped!

[@AB-jh4nq]

Thank you so much, you saved my hoody project and my sanity AND the overlocker being smashed with a hammer!!

[@dcortez]

EXACTLY!!!! I WANTED TO THROW MY SERGER UP AGAINST THE WALL!!!! WHEW!!!!!!

[@tex1622]

Your comment about the hammer made me laugh so hard, with deep hysteria caused by my overlocker I might add!

[@DianaZak]

😅😅😅

[@penelopepennington3838]

Haha 2years later and you just took the words out of MY mouth! Thank You again to Abi !

[@MamaInTheMitten]

Thank you thank you thank you. You are the ONLY person out of all the videos I've watched this week that addressed this exact issue which is the very one I had. Now I can finally finish my baby blankets before the baby arrives in the next few weeks.

[@AbisDen]

You are so welcome

[@amykins73]

Thank you so much!! No where does the manual mention this and I was ready to drop the machine off a cliff. Everyone talks tension but no one ever mentioned the knife!!

[@regalrose3365]

Saved me from pulling my hair out, been trying everything Thanks a million 😊

[@sol5803]

Thank you, watched many videos. You were the only one that addresses the knife part!

[@AbisDen]

sadly, lots of people are misled to thinking only tensions are adjusted on the overlocker - unfortunately they couldnt be more wrong. overlocker tension hardly changes, just as you leave the tension on a sewing machine, you leave the tension on the overlocker.Glad to help. I have a Top Tips video coming soon, subscribe and hit that bell to get the notification :

[@diptijudd]

I have just come accross your channel and absolutely love it. You explain it all so well in your soothing calm voice

[@AbisDen]

Oh thank you!🌷

[@flippy_11]

Your instructions saved my sanity! I could not figure out why the thread was over hanging on my rayon fabric. I watched your video and changed the cutter and i did a perfect finish on my skirt waistband. thank you!

[@AbisDen]

You superstar! Well done 👏🏽

[@azdcxdf]

Thank you madame. My wife just thought that she broke her overlocker. Your video saved her a lot of nerves :)

[@LaureenHart]

Thank you!! Adjusting the knife fixed the problem. I am with all of the others who are surprised this is not in any manuals. Most searches just had info on looper tension. My old serger did not do this, so I was baffled when my new serger did. The only way to get a good edge was to put it in rolled hem mode.

[@AbisDen]

Which machine is it?

[@LaureenHart]

@@AbisDen The new one is a Singer S0230, my old one is an ancient, Singer 14 U 12. It still does a good job, I just wanted a 4 Thread. I also have a Singer 14T967DC that I don't like - loaned it to a friend years ago, good riddance

[@maryb.c.507]

​Thank you. It is surprising the troubleshooting sections of serger manuals (at least the one I own) don't mention changing the knife position or even identify this "loopy" threading as an issue. Your tutorial was very helpful particularly the explanation why one layer of fabric causes so much grief. Often on the same garment some areas are serged over double fabric thickness and a few others might be single...good to know.

[@heatherwilson487]

Bless you for this . My overlocker and I have been at odds with each other for ages - and now we are friends again - Thank you

[@brattynati6642]

I knew very little when I got my serger and got so discouraged for a while when I got this issue- but this fixed it for me and I feel a lot more confident moving forward now! Thank you for your video

[@VerityJasmin]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I’ve spent ages today adjusting all the tensions trying to fix this, looking at so many ‘cheat sheet’ images to try and find something similar to my issue, and getting no where, and then I stumble upon your video- adjust the knife as you suggest, and BAM perfection!! Thank you thank you thank you!!

[@susanniker9697]

Hi, Abi. At last, someone who explains my 'loopy' problem. I've been going loopy trying to get to grips with my machine.

[@ilcakramarka]

Thank you very much! Also, your voice is really soothing to listen to after dreadful couple of hours trying to solve this problem on my own

[@AbisDen]

Thank you

[@Thehamautachannel]

Dear Abi. After one hour trying to fix the loops my serger was giving me trouble with i found your video and now its beautiful. A big fat thank youuuuu!!!!!!!

[@jeaniecutler9147]

Adjusting the knife for lycra/spandex fabric worked perfect for me, and your comment about the double layers of fabric was so helpful Thank you so much.

[@AbisDen]

Excellent stuff!

[@colin101981]

Thanks Abi, understand more clearly the interaction between tensions and knife position. Much appreciated.

[@janettolhurst5705]

Thank you so much. My manual didn't identify this as a problem and I didn't realise I could alter the knofe. Great video tutorials.

[@marianredmond9366]

Excellent I needed to know about the nife instructions .brilliant instruction for settings too thank you so much

[@AbisDen]

Glad it was helpful!

[@MsLindair]

THE KNIFE!!! Thank you so much for this video! I am HAPPY and you are wonderful!

[@barbarabarnett8228]

Thank you for the information. I had the same problem, and rethread the lower looper and all is fixed, even if the lower looper is a pain to thread. You are a gem.

[@AbisDen]

Glad it helped! Fiddly but works!

[@Zodliness]

@Abi's Sewing Den - I've always been one for hand stitching my clothes, however I recently purchased a used Toyota SL3000 triple thread overlocker/weaver on a whim. Having never used a sewing machine before, let alone an overlocker/weaver. It's a robust little machine and only cost me £50 in a charity shop, with lots of accessories. Now armed with some very useful information about stitch positioning and a clear explanation of thread tensioning, I've managed to achieve quite satisfactory results in one afternoon's practice on different samples, while following your insightful guidance. Fore which I'm most grateful, because I'm disabled, live alone and have a big pile of tatty favourites. And I can now finally make some net curtains that actually fit the bloody windows. I would otherwise be paying someone else. Not any more! 😉 #sewwithabi indeed.

[@AbisDen]

Thank you for sharing. This is so lovely to read and absolutely what this channel is about. Empowering each of us. You want to sew, great? Great let’s get on with it. You don’t need to pay out £££’s for classes and repair men who don’t actually know what they’re doing anyways. Bravo!!!

[@marydiamond3322]

Thank you I also have been struggling with loops hanging over. I hope I can adjust knife

[@AbisDen]

Hey Mary!! Did you work it out on your machine?

[@dmalf3]

Thank you!!!!! It was my knife settings that was causing the loops to hang over the fabric! Thank you Thank you!!!

[@youmetube246]

Thank you. I just bought a serger and had this problem and wondered if it was the knife. You just confirmed it! Thanks again.

[@silviaduo8888]

Amazing! Really helped me on my first go at an overlock!

[@AbisDen]

Thanks for. Your feedback Silvia. Keep watching for more!

[@carolmaclean5421]

thank you! just finished a t-shirt with light weight material; very frustrating to see those loose loops. Didn't even know you could move the blade that way....newbie.....thank you so much.

[@catherinewhewell6868]

Thank you so much for this video. For over a week I’d been faffing about with the tension getting increasingly baffled and frustrated. I’m just repeating comments below, but it’s amazing the manual and other guides don’t suggest changing the knife position. I’ve finally finished my sweater dress now 😊

[@nch1646]

Thank you Abi! You’re very thorough and explain everything so well!

[@jesspeak7543]

Fantastic information, thank you. I know how to disengage and engage the knife but about adjusting its distance from the edge. I shall have to check that out, I have used my overlocker for more than 40 years.

[@lotsoflola9516]

Thank you so much! Something so simple like moving the knife made a huge difference.

[@susanmiro7449]

THANKYOU nowhere could I find why I had these big loops. You saved me.

[@maryhardimon4799]

Thanks so much! This helped me when I was setting up my new machine. I had just changed from woven to stretch and gotten all “loopy” ha!

[@AbisDen]

You're welcome!

[@alcas7864]

Thank you!!! I always forget about the knife. Makes so much sense.

[@NathalieMitchell]

Thank you so much- my serger has been driving me crazy and none of the repair shops are open in my area. I couldn't figure out why adjusting the tension knobs wasn't doing anything- the knife settings are a hidden secret!

[@bellbird]

Thank you so much for your very clear demonstration. I have had this problem with over locking a seam on taffeta and your suggestions have allowed me to fix it up. My machine is brand new so I am still learning its little quirks.

[@koalasez1200]

Thank you!!!! Great explanation and especially the samples so we can see the effect of the adjustments.

[@AbisDen]

Glad to help. I have a Top Tips video coming soon, subscribe and hit that bell to get the notification :

[@Floresblancas131]

thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I spent two days trying to figure out how to tread and then look for a looping solving video

[@AbisDen]

You're very welcome!

[@carolinel2088]

Oh my word, I’ve been struggling for 1.5 hours to figure out what was wrong and this has helped to sort it out! Thanks so much!

[@karenboek1193]

Very helpful and I hadn’t thought about adjusting the knife. Thank you.

[@AbisDen]

No worries!

[@jenniferstevens2957]

My saviour you are Abi.... Thankyou sooo much

[@susanniker9697]

Abi, thanks SO much for the tips to solve loops hanging over the edge of my fabric. I've just finished my first project - a zipped lined bag in which to store my accessories. As we're in lockdown, I have no excuse but to sort through my fabric stash and keep busy!!

[@Maridith2]

Thank you! I always learn something very helpful from you!

[@pamela235]

THanks Abi. I've had this problem so many times and didn't realise it was the knife. The manual just isn't detailed enough (on my Janome overlocker).

[@bmnegus3772]

Thank you!!! This was driving me mad. I never realised that the knife could be a factor. Your videos are so clear and helpful.

[@diana-jg1jh]

Thanks you for this video i have a Singer overlocker S14 -78 en mine also gives loops with Thin en strech fabric. I didn't,t know what it was and is have try so lang Times to rethreaded. And tension bit nothing helps. Now i now that i need tot adjust my nife, so thank you , thank you, thank you

[@patriciahorvath1137]

thank you so much for your sharing all of your great knowledge!! so much appreciated!

[@AbisDen]

🙌🏽you are welcome

[@adelinemarechal5539]

I have just learned so much with your video. I bought the new singer lidl S010 and I was fighting without result, I will try the knife tomorrow and it will probably solve the problem. *happy dance* thank you

[@krystleroy3068]

Just got a baby lock air thread used the lady never used it but it dose loook like some one tryed to clean it and some screws were loose and I feel like the tension might be off alittle and my knife is probably dull

[@krystleroy3068]

Just got her today all clean and pretty

[@AbisDen]

Brilliant

[@krystleroy3068]

@@AbisDen thank u Abby for ur reply I love ❤️ your videos and I look up to you and learn from ur videos I know it must be hard work recording when you just want to sew 🧵 I am very thankful for All the videos u make

[@amygutierrez2287]

Thank you so much. That was very very helpful. I'm learning to use my serger and had the thread tension perfect. I used thinner fabric and i noticed the loops, but the actual stitching looked perfect. Increasing the stitch width was the answer! You saved me alot of time 😁

[@theedorbs]

Yay! I got one of these machines today and had to adjust the knife for the same reason. I had never had to do that with my other, so thanks for confirming here :).

[@valeriehofmann2615]

What if your serger doesn't have a knife? Mine does this but doesn't trim the fabric

[@AbisDen]

The knife really just tidied the raw edge for you, if you cut the seam allowance to ¼” then use the overlocker without the knife

[@valeriehofmann2615]

@@AbisDen that doesn't fix my issue.

[@AbisDen]

Maybe your overlocker has a fixed width. Which model is it?

[@valeriehofmann2615]

@@AbisDen its the tiny serger by Singer

[@mooster47]

I've been struggling with this and it seemed the tension did nothing. Thanks for the info about moving the blades - problem solved!

[@louiselill1528]

Thank you abi I shall have a look at mine after I calm down from wanting to throw it out the window had loads of problems with it .

[@AbisDen]

louise lill 💪🏼you’ll be okay, just don’t rush it.🌷

[@louiselill1528]

@@AbisDen thank you I finally got it running after 2/3 years lol your video definitely helped me

[@meghancarr9813]

Thank you so much! I have been struggling with this issue for a while now and this advice is straight forward and helped a lot :)

[@Maryam-sf7qd]

Thank you for your useful videos especially the one that shows retracting the knife.

[@Moneybags8989]

What if there is no setting to alter knife positions its either on or not there is no way to position it slightly its engaged or not what then?

[@AbisDen]

Then there’s nothing you can do. However, I’ve yet to see a machine that doesn’t allow you to alter the knife. Which machine?

[@brendaeves3236]

Thanks Abi... so often 8 have had this problem as a newbie and this video has explained so much for me. Clear and concise as always. Brilliant!

[@amateursewing]

This solved my problem with the ovehanging top thread on the edge of the cloth!!! thanks!!

[@rogenastyles9625]

Hi Abi, I have just bought some new knives for my Brother 1034D. Are they supposed to feel sharp to the touch. They feel blunt about the same as the ones I’m replacing. I’m no expert but thought they should feel sharper if I run my finger along them. ?

[@deveeda56]

I have seen this brand serger but it appears to be an older model my light bulb went in my simplicity 804 where do u find a light bulb for an older model?

[@AbisDen]

Hey Daveeda, usually it's just a Bayonett bulb x Good Luck x

[@SCTutu]

Are you moving the kite closer to the fabric or farther away.

[@AbisDen]

If you want the loops to be filled with fabric then move the knife out, further away from the needle plate so the knife trims only a little off. If you find the fabric is scrunched into the loops, then bring the knife in, closer to the needle plate so more fabric is trimmed off

[@fitnesswithmaria3701]

Thank you so much - I was ready to throw the overlocker out of the window!

[@amindraf1]

Thank you. I'm so happy i found your channel. You are such a joy to learn with.

[@AbisDen]

Thank you Anjel

[@chrisfriend4955]

I have a Janome MyLock 134D which I have used for a very long time with no problems. The stitches have no give/stretch and loops hang over the end of the fabric. I am unable to adjust the knife depth as you suggested for thin fabrics. Having sewn for many years with no problems I am mystified. Can you suggest what may be wrong? Thank you

[@AbisDen]

I have made videos on using stretch fabrics on the overlocker in the overlocker playlist

[@Enderchats2020]

I couldn't understand how to adjust the knife :( as your hands were in the way, and what did you mean to increase what the knife cuts.. I am such a surger newbe....thank you

[@AbisDen]

🫣 it’s taken me so long to get back to you. I’m sure you’ve sorted it out now x Move your knife over to the right to cut less fabric, to the left to cut off more fabric.

[@dirks8239]

I bought my pfaff hobby lock 4752 used and I can't seem to get the tension right. After I came home with it, a few tension knobs were removed from their spots so I couldn't see if they were all sitting at default 3 or not (from the last time it was used before I bought it) Do you know how I can get the tension set back to 3 for all 4 tension knobs? I put the knobs back on (my knobs are flat facing me which can be pulled off) but I can put them on to any tension number which is totally not accurate and I am having issues with getting the stitches to appear like "store bought" items.

[@isabelitalawan1848]

Pls help may overlock or edging machine is skip maybe the looper is not doing well

[@raedonnelly8692]

Thank God for you! I have struggled with this problem so many times! Finally I've adjusted the knife and - perfect! Thank you!!

[@delee2471]

Just watched a few of your videos about sergers. Will be using the trouble shooting tips and planning to sew the lounge pants and using the math formula for the self made pattern. Never seen it explain this way and the video was well done. Thanks for your time and shared knowledge, will be watching all of your videos and future ones. Happy Sewing !!! 👚

[@AbisDen]

Just seen this - great - glad to help!

[@shaidabegum.]

Priceless wisdom. Thank you Abbey. ❤️

[@scorpiochronicles]

This was super helpful thank you so much! I always experienced spacing at the top edge but f my fabric

[@UniversalEngineer]

Thank you! Such good, sound common sense and judgement. 😀

[@AbisDen]

Thank you Bill 💫

[@ZoeyDuncan]

This was exactly what I needed! Thank you.

[@dcortez]

THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH!!!! I CLEANED THE BLADE AREA AND ADJUSTED IT AND IT WORKED!!!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@AbisDen]

Magic! 🥳

[@dukkhan1288]

Thank you! Tried all the tensions but couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong

[@AbisDen]

awesome

[@margiehogan3315]

This was sooooo helpful. Thank you!

[@debbdebb60]

hi, good work thanks! I have a singer serger from LIDL and all of a sudden the stitches a very very loose! can you help me? please🤗

[@AbisDen]

Are you using the correct bobbin? And have you made sure it’s in correctly? 😊

[@debbdebb60]

@@AbisDen sorry but the surger hasnt got a bobbin

[@AbisDen]

Oh 🤣silly me. Sorry 🤦🏽‍♀️it’ll be the tension springs that need cleaning and rethreading xx

[@demossx]

Thank you SO MUCH for this video. It was the only one that suggested knife adjustment. It worked! Thank you for fixing my looper issue. Also the tip about dusting probably helped. (P.S. I had already seen other folks' suggestions about looper tension, tried that, and it didn't work.)

[@perfectionistist]

Thank you for your expert advice, i watched your video then i cleaned the dust out then cleaned the knife plus took the lower tension to 4 no more loops and it seems to be faster. I forgot that when it started i made some caravan cushions out of upholstery fabric plenty of dust. Yes it worked although i have just bought a janome 1110dx my other machine is a janome 8002d works perfect but is now up for sale. $175 brisbane

[@AbisDen]

No problem, try this. Top Serger Tips - A Beginners Guide To Starting A New Project #sewwithabi kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH_Mm6msZ9yKbpY

[@Lyagushka8669]

Thank you so so much for making this video!! I was starting to go a bit coocoo changing all the tensions back and forth and not getting the desired result. Thank you!! ❤️

[@AbisDen]

I’m so glad it helped! Please share with. Others x

[@Lyagushka8669]

Will do! ❤️

[@valclements7092]

I learn something every time I watch your videos. This is particularly helpful to me, I have the Janome Pro 4 D looks very similar to yours. I don’t know if it’s a different model number for Canada than yours. My old 20+ years old didn’t have the adjustable blade on foot pressure so things I’m learning. You’re never too old to learn something new. 😁😁. Can’t wait to get in my sewing room now. Thank you so much for sharing Abi. Have a great weekend. Val 🇨🇦🇬🇧❤️

[@2nywa2]

Thank you for the tips, Abi! One question, do we need to lift the presser foot before adjusting the tension?

[@DeeDee-tt3ek]

Hi Abi, After watching your KZbin channel i then when and brought a very old pfaff hobylock 794. That's still works lovely. Though I was getting loops. I have followed your advice and adjusting the knife has helped. Though when I used a cloth between the tension disks I only heard a ping as they snapped back on the disks for the needles not the loopers. Would you advise that I take it for a service or is there something else that you can advise me to do?

[@AbisDen]

Hi Dee Dee, thank you for your message and support 😊 If the machine is working fine, I wouldn’t worry. If the stitches still don’t look right then maybe but you don’t always hear a ping when you wipe between them, it was just to demonstrate the difference, although you might feel the discs rather than hear them. Are you using a good quality thread? Also Pfaff machines are beautifully made, quiet and smooth in comparison to the brother and singer that I demonstrate on in my videos - they generally form great stitches so it’s very much

[@louisesearby7522]

I've just got a Janome/NewHome Mylock 434D :)

[@atekandi6715]

Mine gave me this kind of problem on strechy fabric. Not only hanging threads but also it was sucking all the fabric in and got it tangled really bad. What seemed to fix the problem was just turn the button that is next to the knife to R. It just started to run perfect...no clue why l did what l did, l suppose out of frustration becsuse nothing else had worked l thought to try that too.

[@AbisDen]

Ate Kandi yes, that’s the knife screw x

[@tonyray4203]

I'd been struggling with this problem, I thought it was me,. now I know what to adjust and fixed the issuenwithing minutes - many thanks

[@tatianatorhova6637]

thank you so much for a very useful video, you saved my day...

[@leevisevelus9005]

Thank u.u are best teacher.

[@sandracook890]

Thank you for a great video it solved all my overlocking problems 🤗👍🏽x

[@pablopersonal7693]

Can’t wait to try because all my Loooks are too long n I just know it’s about that

[@AbisDen]

Brilliant

[@hlumelabongobi3933]

Thank you mam. This sorted out my issue 🙏🏾

[@AbisDen]

Most welcome 😊

[@MrsWheezer]

So very helpful!

[@dorothy8701]

Wow didn’t know to try adjusting knife 👍🏼 thank you

[@JayRocker1000]

Thank you for posting this! Solved all of my problems

[@DianaZak]

Thank you Abi, it was very helpful 😊

[@thegymnast1142]

I have taken my serger to 2 different repairmen. First said “ it was in a bind” and he couldn’t fix it. Second has it running great, but it doesn’t make a stitch!! What could be wrong?

[@AbisDen]

The timing is out. What a shame they couldn’t repair it. It’s so easy

[@Ranemarel-cx2cu]

thank you so much i just fixed my issue .

[@AbisDen]

Yay!