'Oh, That's Interesting...': Nathaniel Moran Surprised By State Dept. DEI Chief's Answer

At Tuesday's House Oversight Committee hearing, Rep. Nathaniel Moran (R-TX) questioned State Dept. Chief DEI Officer Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley.
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[@bocephus1911]

He knows something, he’s on target, she’s got real nervous, and her attitude changed

[@hihoe1882]

She is a racist

[@Dr.Cosmar]

She is the worst poker player....

[@johnd7304]

She is so unfit for office and this is a government office that should be eliminated as completely unnecessary! She and that office are part of the government waste in America.

[@curtisbryce5096]

Have you noticed that a lot of these people in the SloJoe administration have "Crazy Eyes"?

[@user-xp7ju2sd6o]

​@@curtisbryce5096Yes, because they are absolutely crazy as loons. Sad that they hold these positions of destruction rather than being in an insane asylum.

[@WTFisgoingon8]

What a title...Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer. We are living in a clown world. She's probably making at least $400k a year to call everything racist

[@russty5692]

Being soft spoken does not make her any less of an idiot!

[@SpenzOT]

His questions seem to be designed to put her on record for when he unveils her lies at a later time.

[@ShaggyRogers1]

Yeah, these are the questions you ask when you are in the process of getting the evidence needed to confirm all of those possibilities as realities. These are the exact questions an investigator or prosecutor asks right before they drop a file folder full of proof saying otherwise.

[@danielletimmons3176]

Textbook questions. She is in the moment, relishing that she is not sworn in, meanwhile completely unaware of the rope being handed to her.

[@ruffen1365]

So she is basically a professional racist who systematically categorizes race, gender etc and uses that information to make hiring decisions rather that treating all equally and focusing solely on qualifications.

[@thunkjunk]

Yes. She is a disgusting racist and Marxist. Both are very dumb.

[@sodman4874]

Unqualified people are easier to manipulate and control.

[@keithyoung7]

Absolutely- a sociopath.

[@danshort5264]

Imagine having a job in this admin to be the chief of "racist." Time to get rid of DEI!

[@dcxo88]

She's delightful..in the scariest way possible.

[@jowpro]

Affirmative Action at work.

[@Pystdammit]

I get the feeling she got complaints... about her... from all 12... often.

[@thebox6225]

Her Job is to Hire as Many Blacks as Possible

[@yvocinfo3381]

What do you mean by "Blacks"?

[@mandychadwick9262]

Absolutely 👏 💯 Thats ALL she is There for..Keep the white man out..DISGUSTING PIECE OF....

[@whitemale6227]

Shes lying and withholding info.

[@eshelly4205]

They pick the weirdest people for these positions.

[@ginaguarino3163]

They pick the most un intelligent people!! None of these people should have jobs in the Biden Administration. They are all equity hires

[@elizadabulewivz1851]

Wow cant believe this lady was seen as competent to hold any real job

[@jazzybluesguitar4317]

Granny provides a glimpse into the banality of evil.

[@fugazifrog876]

Why do we waste taxpayers money on a dei chief

[@daleemrick9816]

Or even a DEI office

[@hihoe1882]

Weak leadership

[@ajaxoutlaw5479]

Another sub standard box checker.

[@OhPleaseMary]

Dolores Umbridge has left Hogwarts for our Ministry of DEI?? She's the most terrifying witness since He Who Must Not Be Named. 😱

[@pennyhaldeman5626]

Why doesn't the office of diversity and inclusion ever include the disabled?

[@ImprovmanZero]

That actually can effect the ability to do a job so it is handled differently

[@pennyhaldeman5626]

@@ImprovmanZero It is not "handled" it is ignored.

[@bobprivate8575]

IDK what you're talking about, every DEI head I've seen so far has been ethically disabled.

[@hihoe1882]

Blacks only

[@mjanny6330]

"Put the blind man in the drivers seat!" Lol

[@dennisethridge7901]

Now you can see for yourself whats going on

[@Dairy917]

These people are insane. The idea that disturbed individuals like this woman are allowed anywhere near the corridors of power. Is a dangerous one.

[@easter_sunday]

Your tax dollars at work

[@tallgirlhappyme]

▶️ In case you are wondering, he was putting her on record, as she is under oath. He is not done with her!

[@hihoe1882]

None of us are ;) They will “hang” themselves

[@joeyhammitt9462]

Taking a page from DHS playbook. Lie. Lie. Lie.

[@JOkERBIDEN]

Hey lady a wise man once said “why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a plank in your own?” or something along those lines.

[@vegasvato55]

sounds like a used car salesman

[@timfatout5339]

The whole idea of having employees for "DEI" is stupid.

[@hihoe1882]

It’s a racist cult

[@dennisethridge7901]

She is going to dance around everything.

[@bigron8346]

Like she really obeys the laws. 😅

[@patriciadavis784]

ME Too. I would find that out!!

[@dennisethridge7901]

Wow can you believe this.

[@_TheGman]

She is full of it. Went from not being informed to having to say yes. I thought you weren't informed? If you knew why didn't you just say yes. 🐍

[@jocec3283]

Take that liar out of office, NOW !!! She's the CHIEF officer, and she claim she "doesn't know" ????

[@megamus3]

I would love to be a fly on the wall in her office, I bet its rotten with discrimination.

[@Savetheworldfirebidennow]

She’s a bag of hot air

[@ingerlander]

This woman is a genuine creep and genuine creeps are rare

[@mikedavidson9852]

The DEI has very special Chief Officer, she makes Gobbly goop normal, she is tricky but would only fool idiots.

[@clydegoodrich6720]

Who noticed the tone she used in answering the very first question? It was not a matter-of-fact answer; it smacked of: why, the Secretary of STATE, as in "whaddaya think, dumbass." A person's tone really is quite telling. I could predict virtually every response to all the following questions.

[@daviru02]

All of them have that smug look on their face when they answer questions. They think they're untouchable.

[@xusmico187]

an ambassador over a 12 person office? IIIIIII would know..... As a rule a good lawyer does not ask questions they don't know the answer to.

[@Rawkstar1960]

Love how she lies and attempts to lie with that sweet little grandmotherly voice.

[@conan6869]

she can hide behind her race ...her domineer....and the pearls ..... but she is still a high level politician....NOT a complement

[@timcarr6401]

You meant demeanor.

[@conan6869]

@@timcarr6401 i did...thanks for the correction

[@yvocinfo3381]

Don't whites hide behind their race?

[@dzfh98]

What could you possibly do for 40 hours a week supervising "diversity and inclusion"? And for 12 people, no less! And if you're including some, aren't you excluding others?

[@fishgutz4272]

DEI "OFFICE" shouldn't even exist. That office requires discrimination based on race, age, and religion.

[@justadudeandhisdog9421]

I thought they were casting the new Morticia... 😎🚬

[@marshaestep7453]

How do you run an office if you are not in the know?

[@garyhall4326]

WOW! SMH!

[@heatherwilliams6558]

Fire her right now

[@curtisbryce5096]

I am a Canadian and I am offended at the improper hanging of the Stars and Stripes with the stars on the left. What are they trying to tell us?

[@AnnieNelson-wo6bm]

Amazing how fucking much shit I've been fucked out of and how much shit I've been blamed for just because i was never notified about how I'm being stalked and targeted

[@johnqpublic8070]

Appears to be a nice woman. Terrible liar though.

[@kirk5030]

Blimey, Cleopatra has aged !!

[@tonyaosier1678]

YES she has because she is now irritated.

[@corneliusdeskins9875]

She a piece of work.

[@artifexdei3671]

in USSR they had ideologues attached to every military, civilian unit with an idea of upholding communist ideology and ratting out undesirables, it seems, US has gotten there now too.

[@waldodontliveherenomo2488]

looks like she takes too many mood elevators.

[@randybridges7365]

End Affirmative Action

[@yvocinfo3381]

Ending Affirmative Action would affect white women, no?

[@stevelangstroth5833]

How to say yes, without saying yes.

[@michaelfisher1537]

there should not be such a position

[@kirklamb3270]

Throwing the bait right by the fish's mouth. Something going on here.

[@yourgooglemeister6745]

This sweet demeanor is clearly something she has practiced for decades. You just know there is a video out there of her going from zero to ghetto in 2 seconds flat

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

This lady embodies the slow thinking that’s synonymous with government

[@jocec3283]

Since when do we need to hire someone based on "diversity" ??? You hire the BEST candidate based on COMPETENCE. Nothing else...

[@johnnybravo5964]

Time to trim the fat of big gov, starting with the office of DEI which is NOT needed

[@jacobcohen9205]

Is there a senior DEI officer in any government department who is male, Hetro, and white?

[@flyingfowltraining]

follow the law? that's funny from these guys.

[@charlescox290]

Is there any specific reason the aspect ratio is off? It's a little disorienting.

[@_TheGman]

Hey lady...we all know that you are lying. 😂

[@dennisethridge7901]

Wow

[@michaelJohnson-jr1oi]

as federal employee receiving a paycheck from the federal government you have an obligation to speak out using the available channels at your disposal - it comes with the salary; whether you want to acknowledge it or not - it is a position of trust

[@cindaanderson8655]

Where do these people come from?

[@brentdykgraaf184]

Is she the racist in chief. Refusal to answer questions from oversight means contempt charges.

[@michaelJohnson-jr1oi]

having worked at the department for forty four years the place is a racist cabal of under performing individuals. during my years there i filed an eeo complaint against every secretary of state during my employment - i felt that it was part of my job to confront those that lacked the ability but were so willing to attack others based solely on race and actually profited from the behavior, however let me e clear the overwhelming workforce was outstanding and was pretty impressive if i must say so myself

[@MoonBurn13]

Shadow yeeted. So shocked.

[@pascalouellette8516]

doesn't walk the talk get rid of her whole department

[@1_richdog346]

And she is paid with taxpayer dollars????

[@lcweave2016]

Her whole demeanor gives me nausea.

[@gbas76]

She gad the creepiest smile.

[@maxcookiep4397]

This one reminds me of Kathy Bates sister, from another mother

[@mandychadwick9262]

STOP THESE BOX TICKERS..

[@jakerazmataz852]

Correct me if I'm wrong, her office wasn't needed because no money was awarded for DEI issues. Sooo, the dept. is unnecessary. It probably didn't exist 2 years ago and it's obviously not needed today.

[@gpmoore]

Her office definitely isn’t needed BUT they are the “DEI” office, who are supposed to hold other people in the department accountable YET she actually had to affirm that people in her office were being investigated for the very thing they are accusing others of. His direct line of questioning leads me to believe there’s more to the story but he definitely got her to admit that her office is saying one thing and doing something else. They can’t “hold everyone accountable” for not operating under the DEI policies while they are accused of breaking their own policies themselves.

[@markparkes9377]

Her lips keep moving.

[@daviru02]

This chick discriminates based upon race in order to have a more "diverse" workforce is that not correct? How is that NOT discrimination?

[@bohacekml]

I love her demeanor. Even if there's a "there-there", she's calm and collected.

[@johnbroderick1565]

Funny... After watching her at length, I find her to be nervous and unsettled.

[@bohacekml]

@@johnbroderick1565 She did stumble a bit, especially when there’s a probability that she is the subject of an investigation.

[@timcarr6401]

bohacekmi :You meant calm and collected.

[@dalegriffin6755]

Smug and smarmy comes to mind.

[@alementary4065]

Wow, your standards are low.

[@Lomojo31]

Her voice is beautiful tho her responses arent

[@gavindouglas7020]

Unfit for purpose

[@SoniaSilva-fm8zv]

Acho que agora começa a famosa peteca 💪😜

[@noeldelcourt]

That black woman is a top liar

[@rogerwolfe7476]

Lie spin repeat

[@СберегательныйБанк]

signs of sociopathy He is too charming... He is not ashamed... He doesn't have a close relationship... He manipulates others... He is rude and aggressive... He invents fantastic lies... He never sorry

[@JOkERBIDEN]

😁 that’s me ☝️

[@nido3238]

Damn. This list describes me perfectly. (Cartman voice), "SWEEEETTTT"!

[@zeezerzam]

Her role is chief racist

[@lauren_winstead]

She seems like a nice lady

[@ctwatcher]

He's looking crazy imo. Yet many can lose their freedom by following him, just don't expect us to even acknowledge his mental illness. I identify as having more power than he does and I want a meeting with him to see if he can even follow the laser.

[@danielterry6511]

You can tell she's lying because her lips are moving

[@jacquelinelenahan9093]

Shes lying!!!

[@jacquelinelenahan9093]

Another liar

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