Is DSS WORSE than Players Thought in Helldivers 2?

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OhDough

OhDough

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@NCHProductions
@NCHProductions 3 күн бұрын
I love to see this as part of the story lore perspective where the higher ups of super earth are using the DSS as a false flag operation and just being non chalant in screwing with the front line forces just to test their death star weapon effectiveness
@Tac6497
@Tac6497 3 күн бұрын
I didn't know you played helldivers, love seeing your videos and look forward to more wilds content!
@popdogfool
@popdogfool 3 күн бұрын
​@@Tac6497 They not only play but have made animations about it too.
@Tac6497
@Tac6497 3 күн бұрын
@@popdogfool I must have missed his helldivers vids, I need to check em out
@alexzephyris1455
@alexzephyris1455 3 күн бұрын
If they wanted to write funny lore they could do it with a book instead of making a game, saves everyone a headache.
@LaserTractor
@LaserTractor 2 күн бұрын
Man, this is some multiverse of madness type beat Never expected to see you here
@DelinquentDJ
@DelinquentDJ 3 күн бұрын
i read a comment somewhere that was like "well maybe the devs arent tryhards and can handle a little bit of chaos and fun" bro what are you talking about blowing up to my friends stratagems is funny because its actually unexpected and only happens once or twice a mission being constantly bombarded for 40minutes, on every difficulty, on every mission isnt fun. the "wow this is crazy" effect lasted like 3 minutes before i was just annoyed for the rest of my mastia session
@basedcringe9000
@basedcringe9000 3 күн бұрын
A few weeks ago i had the worst day ever on HD2. Dying to random one shots is just as "fun" as dying to ragdolling. It was that Personal Order of "Get Kills with Bombardments", people absolutely SUCK at using barrages and would throw them on 95% empty bases/objectives when they had arrived a minute late after i started clearing it. Needless to say they got absolutely no kills except for teamkills on me and even themselves. This is just that multiplied by like 5 times. Absolute d0gshit game design and the mouthbreathers on Reddit call you a "try hard" for disliking such things.
@mac-bs1ng
@mac-bs1ng 3 күн бұрын
Actually Twinbeard replied on discord saying they DID do teating on the DSS, which is horrifying that this was the "polished" version
@dramat123
@dramat123 3 күн бұрын
thats a lie 100% i see only two options they have testers that play on difficulty 1 and dont have any idea what they are doing and second option is that they just lie and never play this game
@xbvrdzc469
@xbvrdzc469 3 күн бұрын
​@@dramat123my bet is the latter.
@TheYungDyrude
@TheYungDyrude 3 күн бұрын
Third option: Alexus is now a tester and does his best to do the most mental damage to the playerbase
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 3 күн бұрын
@@TheYungDyrudeOmg…I wouldn’t be surprised if
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 3 күн бұрын
Bullshit! absolute bullshit, there is no way any thinking person, even a new born toddler fresh out of the womb could see that this was NOT tested at all.
@oscarortiz1529
@oscarortiz1529 3 күн бұрын
The irony of how the temporary solution of a free shield generator exposes the mediocrity of that stratagem to the entire player base
@fireblast133
@fireblast133 3 күн бұрын
yeah, though the sudden shift of 'planetary bombardment is broken bad' to 'eagle storm is broken good' is wild. it pauses the defense timer, not slow it down
@RirimoYT
@RirimoYT 2 күн бұрын
Use shield gen relay and shield backpack + the shield gen relay the DSS grants. Now you have a full path of constant shields to protect you from the bombardment on your way to all the various points of the map you wanna travel. I tried it with a friend (our very first game on that planet with the DSS) and never died to any planetery bombardment. In fact the DSS completed objectives, killed the bots fighting us and cleared fabricators randomly. Our experience was very fun but i'd appreciate that they fix shells so that they never fall closer than 15 meters away from Helldivers. Because otherwise this is still gonna be unplayable vs terminids, as shield gen relay + shield backpack are way less effective against the bugs and there's way more close close combat and unintentionnal ragdolling. But overall if you actually want DSS planetary bombardment to be fun vs bots just go double shield gen relay and back pack and you will never die to it while you contemplate the destruction.
@lordgaledron6969
@lordgaledron6969 2 күн бұрын
@@RirimoYTso just walking around the map watching the arty do everything for you for roughly 30-45 mins is fun?
@numidium3
@numidium3 3 күн бұрын
Nothing says "actual strategy" like bombarding your own troops when they're trying to do their job.
@SneedRemembrancer
@SneedRemembrancer 3 күн бұрын
Arrowhead always jump at the opportunity to fuck up
@Akantorz
@Akantorz 3 күн бұрын
The one time the devs literally meant what they said, it gets us killed, lmao.
@Carnun009
@Carnun009 3 күн бұрын
While we were grinding MOs for months, devs actually thought this was a good idea.
@berserkerpride
@berserkerpride 3 күн бұрын
Yea its wild that their amazing DSS launch idea was "Traitor barrage with a blind gunner."
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 3 күн бұрын
They thought it was a good idea months ago when then DSS was already in the game, we just "unlocked" it over 2 months, probably was done before the whole "60 days to stop the bleeding player base" buff phase that ended up being... minor buffs yet again just to a wider range of weapons. So between maybe August to November, not a single second was dedicated for testing to see if the DSS was properly implemented. They just completed the code and the shitty JPG interface and sent it to be put into the game.
@mcdull68
@mcdull68 3 күн бұрын
Probably just because they have lazy and unmotivated devs meeting deadlines, while the person in charge didn’t want to scrap the thing because they didn’t have time and didn’t want to make the DSS again
@Grimm9890
@Grimm9890 3 күн бұрын
fun fact: the dss is supposed to be above you during the mission but is bugged gotta love how they never test stuff never
@Kenny-hy5pj
@Kenny-hy5pj 2 күн бұрын
More realistic thing they didnt include Planet is round When DSS is bombing one side The other side shouldn get bomb
@berserkerpride
@berserkerpride 3 күн бұрын
The whole DSS proved you right when you said that Arrowhead had not learned from their mistakes. They have to be browbeat into good choices. It took six months of bad balance before they finally started the 60 day balance patch.
@twilightgaming5023
@twilightgaming5023 3 күн бұрын
And in 60 days they did more good then 6 months of bad is the damning part. They can make stuff that's fun and feels good, they just adhere to this idea of making GTFO x Tarkov x Deep rock
@DemoDivsion
@DemoDivsion 3 күн бұрын
At this point, I'm starting to become a conspiracy nut because it just seems like there are two different studios that worked on Helldivers.
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 2 күн бұрын
@@DemoDivsion That was at least all but confirmed by Piles himself during a few of their Ted talks, he said Sony brought in some help when they had to get the game up and running in time to release it. As far as after that... honestly I do not know anymore.
@matthewdeklerk3457
@matthewdeklerk3457 2 күн бұрын
60 more days!!! Don't worry guys Helldivers will be a great game for your grandkids! They'll get it right eventually (they wont)
@lordgaledron6969
@lordgaledron6969 2 күн бұрын
@@twilightgaming5023if only they did take some inspiration from deep rock weapons would be balanced and fun.
@lightyagami758
@lightyagami758 3 күн бұрын
Why not make it where the bonus makes your stratagem cooldown faster, so instead of planetary bombardment it could be like 50% faster obital stratagems?
@BillMcChode
@BillMcChode 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I was so sure it was gonna be free orbitals with faster recharge
@Mad_Dog-by2nl
@Mad_Dog-by2nl 3 күн бұрын
To be honest that would be kind of boring
@basedcringe9000
@basedcringe9000 3 күн бұрын
That's not what we want out of a death star looking thing.
@JC-eo2qe
@JC-eo2qe 3 күн бұрын
Should give lasers instead. Like an exclusive DSS Super Orbital Laser that does more damage and is bigger; give it the Death Star treatment basically. And we choose to summon it instead of random laser, then have orbital artillery shells blowing up in the background outside the map to give the scenery more flavor instead of destroying our ear drums and killing us.
@lVentoxl
@lVentoxl 3 күн бұрын
Exclusive stratagems would be cool like the carpet bombs or something
@25xxfrostxx
@25xxfrostxx 3 күн бұрын
It's there so you can run it with the constitution as a challenge. That radar tower death was funny as hell though.
@NewYear7878
@NewYear7878 2 күн бұрын
Peak gaming.
@seanandrew262
@seanandrew262 3 күн бұрын
OhDough being proven right yet again that the devs are clueless, the glazers finally catching on late as usual.
@gameplayer42069
@gameplayer42069 3 күн бұрын
They'll catch on late then go back to glaze on the very next decent patch, same happened with the big buff patch. This game is doomed and it's the community's fault at this point.
@dramat123
@dramat123 3 күн бұрын
@@gameplayer42069 a bit community fault but i would say devs fault mostly cuz they should at least have few testers for the game cuz they clearly DONT HAVE A SINGLE FK TESTER which is so fk stupiddddddddddddd and they dont even know how their game looks like in higher difficulty then 1
@aeririahelmold
@aeririahelmold 3 күн бұрын
​@@dramat123Pretty sure most of the devs can't even finish anything past diff 7.
@Ltwaters77
@Ltwaters77 3 күн бұрын
Glaze all over the place
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 3 күн бұрын
Waiting until something actually releases and experiencing it yourself before fully forming your opinion on it counts as “catching on late”?
@Jaeger_89
@Jaeger_89 3 күн бұрын
Ultimate HD2 "try-not-to-unninstall" Challenge: -Dive on DSS Orbital Barrage covered planet. -Difficulty 10 -Primary weapon: Constitution. -Secondary: Peacemaker -Grenade: Smoke -Airburst Launcher -Eagle Smoke Strike -Orbital EMS -Idk, Machinegun Turret or whatever. Good luck...
@Tenchua917
@Tenchua917 3 күн бұрын
You might be more lucky with the planetary bombardment than that loadout you are using
@xtxownage
@xtxownage 3 күн бұрын
bet.
@Spoofls
@Spoofls 3 күн бұрын
You forgot mines
@Jaeger_89
@Jaeger_89 3 күн бұрын
@@Spoofls Good one. Anti-personnel mines instead of the MG turret.
@jamesThebulbmin
@jamesThebulbmin 2 күн бұрын
Tesla turret
@AverageWatched
@AverageWatched 3 күн бұрын
OhDough saying skill issue for the toxic positivity community losing their mind for being bombarded is the pettiness I strive to pull off 😂
@LaserTractor
@LaserTractor 3 күн бұрын
Jokes on you, wait untill you see people REALLY saying it's a skill issue and you can akchually🤓 predict where shell will fall
@kokorochacarero8003
@kokorochacarero8003 3 күн бұрын
​​​@@LaserTractorAlready seen a dude say exactly this in Eravin's comment section "Just stick close to the host and if you're the host don't sprint in the same direction too much" NO. How about AH gets it right for once?
@Burnt_Lamp764
@Burnt_Lamp764 3 күн бұрын
​@@kokorochacarero8003pipe down and stop crying kid
@tristana6025
@tristana6025 3 күн бұрын
@@kokorochacarero8003 and it's a straight up lie. I was playing as the host and watched a guy next to me get vaporized by a direct 380 shell to the head. Only reason I survived was because I had the shield back and democracy protects.
@LaserTractor
@LaserTractor 3 күн бұрын
@@kokorochacarero8003 oh God
@AsterSea
@AsterSea 3 күн бұрын
They hated OhDough because he told them the truth.
@caperdz9553
@caperdz9553 2 күн бұрын
He was banned for our missplays!
@SpongyKarma
@SpongyKarma 3 күн бұрын
I mean it was fun/funny for like 2 missions then I went to Trandor.
@alessandrotullio-perez1674
@alessandrotullio-perez1674 3 күн бұрын
I straight up just left and played some DRG. Those devs actually test their stuff😅
@fxracer1860
@fxracer1860 3 күн бұрын
@@alessandrotullio-perez1674DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE
@DemoDivsion
@DemoDivsion 3 күн бұрын
GSG devs actually play and stream the game😂 At least they wouldn't do dumb stuff like using fire against bots and burning up 1/2 reinforcements before even starting on the main objective -_-
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 2 күн бұрын
@@DemoDivsion Plus, their game is cheaper, smaller, no Kernel 0 Anti-cheat that hogs your system and free seasons and fairly inexpensive paid cosmetic packs that get updated every update if there's a new weapon or gear. Arrowhead will never to that level even if they tried.
@DemoDivsion
@DemoDivsion 2 күн бұрын
And mod support. I'm aware Helldivers has premium currency so mods are limited to visual changes only But DRG mods allow you to make the game as easy/fun as possible or as sweaty and impossible as the player wants it
@MattyJ55046
@MattyJ55046 3 күн бұрын
At least the meteors were supposed to kill you
@berserkerpride
@berserkerpride 3 күн бұрын
And they had a warning light. Lol.
@LaserTractor
@LaserTractor 3 күн бұрын
@@berserkerprideat game's launch they didn't have warning light and hit harder💀 It was added later + meteor damage aoe was nerfed You can see bigger picture now - this was SUPPOSED to be fun. It was MADE to be fun. It's what devs think of fun.
@hyperduplafly2941
@hyperduplafly2941 3 күн бұрын
​@@LaserTractor man these devs are absolute coo coos, thats why we need a harsher community to try fix this game.
@NoNo-xh7ru
@NoNo-xh7ru 3 күн бұрын
@@LaserTractor if I remember right the meteors DID have a warning light at launch, it was just always wrong. The area lit up was always safe. I could be misremembering but I thought Tien Kwan was the first time the meteors were active and that’s how I remember it going.
@Deadjim17
@Deadjim17 3 күн бұрын
The DSS icon hovering over a planetary system is now just the indicator of why bloody bother, find some other planet to liberate.
@demyx0067
@demyx0067 3 күн бұрын
We're sending it to Gaellivare, so the bots can have it.
@itsmedqz
@itsmedqz 3 күн бұрын
They don’t fix or adjust the old stuff and keep on releasing new dog shit. This is a repeating cycle ever since the game dropped. Edit: As of now, the Eagle Strafing Storm is working much better compared to the Planetary Bombardment, because the Eagles actually target the enemies and Strafing run doesn’t have large AOE so it doesn’t tk as much. Cant say if they will implement the same for other Eagle strikes tho
@OhDough
@OhDough 3 күн бұрын
Yuuup
@shift_del3te249
@shift_del3te249 2 күн бұрын
Been waiting for a new stratagem for weeks and random bombardments randomly kills you is what they thought of... thank you arrowhead. We really wanted that.
@NewYear7878
@NewYear7878 2 күн бұрын
​@@shift_del3te249You're so right. They could drop any new vehicle or for exemple a gas barrage. Everyone would go nuts.
@trenerluka6726
@trenerluka6726 2 күн бұрын
That's why I stopped playing
@maxwessel7786
@maxwessel7786 3 күн бұрын
Arrowhead: “do you want DSS?🤭” Divers: “What’s DSS!? Yes, please!🥺” Arrowhead after 3 months: “DSS NUTZ!😈” Divers: 🤯
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 3 күн бұрын
Hah Got 'em
@mayasamsara
@mayasamsara 2 күн бұрын
😂
@ozcalavera1667
@ozcalavera1667 2 күн бұрын
nice one xD
@jamesThebulbmin
@jamesThebulbmin 2 күн бұрын
NOOWIWIWIWIWIWIIWI
@OrAngelicBlitz8633
@OrAngelicBlitz8633 3 күн бұрын
Okay, I'll be positive. I am positive the arrowhead team is extremely bad at game design.
@hyperduplafly2941
@hyperduplafly2941 3 күн бұрын
Yeah theses devs are tweaking.
@basedcringe9000
@basedcringe9000 3 күн бұрын
They "playtested" and green lit this btw 😹😹😹
@basedcringe9000
@basedcringe9000 3 күн бұрын
Wtf were they even thinking
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 3 күн бұрын
No, I think it speaks of malice that AH devs have for the players, they've constantly downplayed their bad designs and insulted the players, they hate us but they demand out money and praise.
@KJT45
@KJT45 3 күн бұрын
I thought the “bombardment” would mean we get to control the bombardment as an additional stratagem, like an orbital barrage with a lower cooldown drop more bombs more consistently. I fail to see how this implementation makes sense. Not only is it not a fun idea, but nobody would DO this. Its a dumb waste of munitions.
@dustyfedora
@dustyfedora 3 күн бұрын
With us having to sink resources, all DSS boosters should be capable of being active at the same time. If they wanted it to be one at a time it should’ve been a pure vote with no resource cost.
@Vidman42
@Vidman42 3 күн бұрын
THIS!!! My disappointment with the lack of communication on core game mechanics cannot be measured anymore.
@fireblast133
@fireblast133 3 күн бұрын
or a resource sink with a vote on what effect.
@sei_asagiri
@sei_asagiri 3 күн бұрын
this event thing seems like a bunch of nonsense filler. they need to add more mission types and POIs. The game is getting stale.
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 3 күн бұрын
They spent that last few months working on the Escalation of Freedom update, and then the 60 day plan not long after. Now that both of them are done they should be working on new progression systems and other actually new content if their word and teases on the Discord is to be believed
@sei_asagiri
@sei_asagiri 3 күн бұрын
@@shadow-squid4872 the 60 day plan was not much more than slightly tweaking weapon statistics, not hard to do and it was required work that needed to be done to the game. Compared to other live service games, helldivers 2 is at a standstill in development. The new warbonds are unsubstantial filler cash-grabs, not even good enough to consider spending money on. They could have a working weapon modification system, modular armor system, more unique support weapons, new missions, new POI's, new vehicles (and maps to fit the vehicles in), and much much more. I grew up playing games like halo and destiny, Helldivers 2 cant hold my attention like those games can in its current state.
@lordgaledron6969
@lordgaledron6969 Күн бұрын
@@sei_asagirii agree its now at roughly 80€ dlc for a 40€ game and none of these 10 € warbonds has 1/4 of the games content. Helldivers 1 had the same problem imo gatekeeping weapons stratagems and cosmetics. Im dissapointed.
@BubbleShield570
@BubbleShield570 3 күн бұрын
At first, I thought it would be a player hub. Then theres the bombardement thing, and I thought, ok so this just gives us a free bonus stratagem either orbital or eagle bombardement. Somehow, AH still manages to do the worst thing possible. Or almost the worst thing, it could have been just plain useless. Hmm scratch that it would be better if it was just a scenario/story/lore thing without any effect ingame. WHY NO GIVE STRATAGEM IN YOUR STRATAGEM GAME ????
@ReddwarfIV
@ReddwarfIV 3 күн бұрын
Useless would be better than this. It's an active hindrance.
@thegreycrusader
@thegreycrusader 3 күн бұрын
No meaningful choice sums up the game succinctly
@WaveHolder
@WaveHolder 3 күн бұрын
we cant have more players or 2 mechs at the same time, but spamming 380 bombardment for 40 minutes is fine 😂😂😂
@D-S-G.
@D-S-G. 3 күн бұрын
Chaosdivers: Occasional teamkilling and drama DSS: Continuous teamkilling and drama Chaos Divers have helped the war effort more than the DSS has so far.
@NewYear7878
@NewYear7878 2 күн бұрын
We Owe a lot to all good criticism provider like Chaosdivers and some other content creators. And all people who drop out when the game was at it's worst state.
@superklippy6876
@superklippy6876 3 күн бұрын
I thought they wanted "challenge runs" lmao
@MidnightDrake
@MidnightDrake 3 күн бұрын
We got Mastia-baited....
@nagatodan
@nagatodan 3 күн бұрын
I'll vote for you as Helldivers joke of the month award, the great Mastia-baiter of November 14th
@MidnightDrake
@MidnightDrake 2 күн бұрын
​@@nagatodan This is the best birthday gift ever
@nagatodan
@nagatodan Күн бұрын
@@MidnightDrake Happy birthday there bucko, hope you enjoy your day to the fullest on yout birthday
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 3 күн бұрын
Update, apparently, and this has been confirmed in game, that there is a full 7 day cooldown period for any voted DSS booster/stratagem, 7 days! that it can't do anything other than give a passive +1% to the planetary defense or assault. You can not make this stuff up, you just can't, you have to be the single most out of touch person in history, up there with denying that the earth is round. Hey remember when AH said they were done nerfing things and making this bad on purpose on release? man that was a wild 2 whole seconds when Piles tried to sell us that lie.
@matthewdeklerk3457
@matthewdeklerk3457 3 күн бұрын
Lmao "hey did you have fun? No? Okay well you can try again in 7 real days of time". This goes beyond plain incompetence to pure malice towards players
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 2 күн бұрын
@@matthewdeklerk3457 It just really screams "F2P" game hidden behind a paywall, like they are not trying to break that trend of Gatcha game mechanics along with cellphone game like Clash of Clans or something. This is quite bad.
@matthewdeklerk3457
@matthewdeklerk3457 2 күн бұрын
@hawk9mm they're so desperate to make this game literallt anything but the massively popular monry printing super hit it already was on launch. All these bull changes and nonsense, now we have in game timers mapped to real life, what next "super earth gems" are purchasable currency that can skip the timer? Lmao
@hyperduplafly2941
@hyperduplafly2941 3 күн бұрын
I think the devs wanted that battlefield feeling. They missed hard tho, skill issue.
@Myythmeister
@Myythmeister 3 күн бұрын
It should've just gotten rid of operational modifier debuffs. That was such an obvious choice, I don't know why they went with turning every mission into the fucking somme
@hyperduplafly2941
@hyperduplafly2941 3 күн бұрын
This is a good idea. I think you have more knowledge of game desing than AH entire team.
@matthewdeklerk3457
@matthewdeklerk3457 3 күн бұрын
Imagine being a level designer painstakingly crafting new beautiful planets and then they go and slap three kinds of smoke onto it. Why bother lol. I don't think I've been able to see the horizon since launch. Every mission is fog and smoke and rain and duststorms, it's actuallt exhausting. Like why are sniper rifles even in the game at all if this is every mission
@swift-pawedteif386
@swift-pawedteif386 2 күн бұрын
Should change them to positive effects.
@MiharuSuzuki
@MiharuSuzuki 3 күн бұрын
"Players HATE DSS" × "Dev HATE players" √
@nickpang4630
@nickpang4630 3 күн бұрын
i would complain but splattered gibblets can't talk
@absoluteandrew398
@absoluteandrew398 3 күн бұрын
The players got no control. Think about this. The DSS is as it stands, a glorified mission modifier. Random barrages. It’s a mission modifier. What it SHOULD HAVE BEEN, was a huge code punched in by any helldiver, similar to the Hellbomb, and AFTER the player throws the stratagem, any teammates must confirm authorization for the DSS to fire via punching in a simple up arrow on their pad. Then the DSS barrage should be equal to 4 380mm barrages at once, in a concentrated area. Devastating. You ever seen 4 people call in a 380 on the same spot? It should look like that. And then give it a 10, even 15 minute cooldown.
@crackededge9351
@crackededge9351 3 күн бұрын
They should’ve dropped the fing nuke strategem for the DSS. It works just fine, I’ve seen hackers use it and it annihilates giant bug bases instantly.
@matthewdeklerk3457
@matthewdeklerk3457 3 күн бұрын
Wow a cool thing I get to see once a game that sounds so fun! Lmao beyind bad idea. One charge every 15min absolute terrible. Make it fun. Make it something I can and want to use, not something my team mate wastes and j don't see again for 15 min
@crackededge9351
@crackededge9351 3 күн бұрын
@@matthewdeklerk3457 It’s a far better idea than what Arrowhead has currently done for the DSS lmao
@matthewdeklerk3457
@matthewdeklerk3457 3 күн бұрын
@@crackededge9351 we need better standards. Not just "less worse" ideas, avtuallt good ones that are tested
@matthewdeklerk3457
@matthewdeklerk3457 3 күн бұрын
@crackededge9351 oh bro I was talking about the 15min cooldown. The nuke idea sounds sick
@AlyxCrouch
@AlyxCrouch 2 күн бұрын
There was someone glazing on Reddit (as usual) saying that people just need to adapt and wear heavy armor. The delusions are real with these people who actually think heavy armor and a shield will save you from a 380mm smacking you in the dome. Never mind that immediately locks out most support weapons and heavy armor being objectively the worst.
@thelordraimondo
@thelordraimondo 3 күн бұрын
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. It's stupid to me that we can throw a beacon for a precision orbital strike, and the destroyer knows precisely when we leave the operation area and when to mark us as a traitor. It at the same time somehow cannot mark our location as a do not target area for bombardment though.
@Dstryrr
@Dstryrr 3 күн бұрын
They should have just given us like 3 uses of 380mm orbital bombardments with 0 cooldown per mission for free, AND on top of that give us a massively shortened cooldown on bombardments. I have no idea why they thought non-stop bombardments would be helpful
@matthewdeklerk3457
@matthewdeklerk3457 3 күн бұрын
Because they don't think, or play their game, or listen to play testers
@dot0l
@dot0l 3 күн бұрын
whenever i heard someone in other gaming communities say that the developers "don't play their game" i always thought it was a ridiculous notion because i could see conscious choices even in bad design decisions. arrowhead, though? i'm fully convinced they don't play their game at all. there's no way in hell a human being playtested this and thought it was okay to add.
@Reach4God1
@Reach4God1 3 күн бұрын
I dont mind the meteor shower much because there is at least a 'tell' on the ground. You know where (and roughly when) they are going to hit. The DSS just blows up the ground with no warning.
@Onesadcatto
@Onesadcatto 3 күн бұрын
As a solo diver, every reinforcement is valuable af Dying because I mess up is one thing (being careless with the crossbow) but it’s another thing when I die from something out of my control and could potentially jeopardize the mission AND operation It’s either keep going, find new planet or I can go orbit Meridia and take a super dump on my super toilet
@punishedgwynie
@punishedgwynie 3 күн бұрын
a lot of people voted right when the DSS activated and it wasn't clear that you only get one at a time or that it takes 24 hours to kick in.
@discountcobracommander2494
@discountcobracommander2494 3 күн бұрын
A lot of people assumed we'd get the planetary blockade that's why I voted
@mauricio7797
@mauricio7797 3 күн бұрын
Wow, instakilled again by environment. Arrowhead: outplayed
@wafflezz52
@wafflezz52 3 күн бұрын
Watching the bots (mainly hulks) just mindlessly run towards you even with all the weaponry in the world is an issue
@MrHocotateFreight
@MrHocotateFreight 3 күн бұрын
Hey military members of arrowhead, in what crazy sweedish world did your artillery teams fire DIRECTLY ON YOUR HEAD Let me know, clearly im not seeing something here.
@LaserTractor
@LaserTractor 3 күн бұрын
The only thing about all that is them being gun nuts. Animations on guns, bullets, bolts, everything is realistic af (except of course energy weapons) Every gun can function irl It feels like their main priority
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 3 күн бұрын
@@LaserTractor The problem is that's animators and sound designers, not coders, not mechanics, the realism only factors in when it's things we see but when it comes to things we use for our benefit suddenly the realism is on the bots/bugs side of things and we get nothing.
@fl4shblade
@fl4shblade 2 күн бұрын
@@LaserTractor I raise you the reprimand, a gun with an MOA of 50 is a blunderbuss and wouldn't be adopted by any military ever!
@LaserTractor
@LaserTractor 2 күн бұрын
@@fl4shblade they overcooked with this one. It's totally unrealistic in having INNATE bullet spread apart from recoil. But not that it matters, it's not the main thing. What matters for Arrowhead is IF IT CAN FUNCTION in theory. If all the parts are on the right places
@KalijahAnderson
@KalijahAnderson 3 күн бұрын
Well lets look at this. We worked for 2 and a half months to get this thing finally unlocked. Then what should have been bombardment strategem being the bombardment for being a traitor is a kick in the damned balls. This option is completely useless. It feels like way too much work just to get trolled. I don't blame the community for being pissed.
@The_fusion_physics_guy
@The_fusion_physics_guy 2 күн бұрын
1. honestly your sarcasm is a little tough to recognize but it's probably cause we don't actually know you in real life 2. Yup, this is insane. I think the end of you being like "should've dodged it." was Really funny and kinda cathartic :P
@jovifidelis
@jovifidelis 3 күн бұрын
Didn't notice a single thing, my brain just puts the barrages sounds and visuals at the backdoor and completely ignores it, I mean, it can't even kill the enemies I'm struggling with. So I ignore it... until it kills me in one shot.
@dramat123
@dramat123 3 күн бұрын
DSS is a combo weapon
@basedcringe9000
@basedcringe9000 3 күн бұрын
Viable ceremonial combo weapon.
@claydoe34
@claydoe34 3 күн бұрын
Dead internet theory is real. No way those braindead glazers are actually human. Yeah, this is "strategic" gameplay...
@JoeSneeky
@JoeSneeky 2 күн бұрын
´"getting ragdolled more often" I'm just getting killed. There is no skill check or knowledge check. You just die randomly. Usually i barely die on lvl 10. now i die over and over on lvl 7. who the hell designed that shit? There is no creativity in it. The devs are maliciously sabotaging the game. those people need to be fired before doing more damage!
@ctdubzz
@ctdubzz 3 күн бұрын
I played a couple missions with the “Eagle Storm” active and literally nothing happened. Saw eagles in the sky but nothing ever shot or strafed once. It’s literally either broken or it’s just for show and the real “merit” is the passive (faster defense and +1 to reinforcements).
@hawk9mm
@hawk9mm 2 күн бұрын
Except based on what I'm reading, the +1 tickets aren't even being applied properly.
@Zamnian
@Zamnian 3 күн бұрын
The ironic part about them complaining about their engine is the fact that fat shark(creators of vermintide and darktide)uses the same one and has a team of 180 people compared to the 150 that arrowhead has…
@PopePlatinumBeats
@PopePlatinumBeats 3 күн бұрын
i didnt know what was going on when i jumped in... i was like did the automatons get a bigger mortar cannon?
@spartan078ben
@spartan078ben 3 күн бұрын
Gee its almost like having troops running around during an artillery bombardment isn't a good idea...Didn't we learn this lesson in WW1 with the walking barrage strategy that never quite worked?
@ElevenAce
@ElevenAce Күн бұрын
I haven't changed my negative review from months ago. Yes the 60 day plan added some good things but the DSS just shows the devs dont really test their game. All they did was spam 380s across the map and called it a day. Quite a shame....
@zgmfx10afeedem
@zgmfx10afeedem 21 сағат бұрын
Same here, since the start of this game can't play with anyone unless I use my phone's network, guess they will never fix it at this point
@Nartanek
@Nartanek 3 күн бұрын
Vote to rename the DSS in CSS, ceremonial space station, and mothball it.
@Lordbobomb
@Lordbobomb 2 күн бұрын
This must be so cathartic each and every single time you turn out to be right. It's too bad that the people complaining didn't do so earlier, or figured out to listen to you.
@Eagle-eye-pie
@Eagle-eye-pie 2 күн бұрын
The people complaining are complaining about something bad that just happened. Why would they complain about it earlier? Wtf are you talking about? Time is linear.
@Lordbobomb
@Lordbobomb 2 күн бұрын
@@Eagle-eye-pie Because we had the info from leaks weeks if not months in advance. And people could have told (and some of us did) Arrowhead that this was a stupid idea back then.
@Kiyomoto657
@Kiyomoto657 2 күн бұрын
I thought it was hilarious until the bombardment killed me three times at extraction.
@xtremewlr
@xtremewlr 3 күн бұрын
The constant noise from Orbital Bombardment, is also super annoying. Hate it so far.
@IshmaelDoe
@IshmaelDoe 3 күн бұрын
The game always have a element where thing like meteor shower, sentry..etc will track player movement and shoot directly to them, it is just that for DSS bombardment they turn the % to hitting player to 11. And people thought it is random, if it is actually random, the chance of you standing still on a obj and get head on hit is next to zero. and if it is actually random you will actually get hit by the bombardment on the side instead of dead on way more often.
@rhetro777
@rhetro777 3 күн бұрын
I'm surprised Thicc and Eravin didn't try to tell us it was amazing like they do with mid to toilet tier weapons when a warbond drops.
@samturner6061
@samturner6061 2 күн бұрын
Arrowhead: *drops crappy new thing* Everyone: This is crappy. Arrowhead: We hear you. *takes months to fix the crappy thing, in slow motion, screw by screw, sometimes breaking it again several times during the process*
@miemsliva4464
@miemsliva4464 3 күн бұрын
10:08 As a Liberator Penetrato user.... You don't even wanna aim for the chest, you still go for the belly or legs on Devastators. You use it on Scout striders
@LaserTractor
@LaserTractor 3 күн бұрын
Why not use any other better medium pen gun?
@atomicscout7676
@atomicscout7676 3 күн бұрын
The people calling you a rage baiter have been real quiet ever since the dds dropped.
@andrewkong3154
@andrewkong3154 2 күн бұрын
DSS should've just been putting samples towards voting for that as a mechanic as it would effectively give devs real-time feedback and acting as a PTR: -using extra stratagem and planet wide booster -testing out new weapons and stratagems -introducing stat modifiers for armors, cooldowns, etc. How useful would it be if the DSS is hovering over a fire planet and we're allowed to vote for extra 25% fire resistance to all armors. It wouldn't make all armor sets useful, but players would probably intuitively vote for this perk to use the fire resistance armor to essentially be immune to fire damage while on the planet. Playing on a low-vis map? Maybe taking the radar booster clears a portion of the mini map for a large radius that's centered around the diver. Maps that have increased cooldown mods for 25%, the agency to choose either 50% reduction in cooldowns OR having an extra stratagem makes it a very interesting player vote A lot of missed opportunity and lack of forethought and creativity with whatever they thought was the purpose of implementing this mechanic.
@decat4
@decat4 3 күн бұрын
I have expected nothing but dissapointed when I noticed the UI for the DSS getting added 3 weeks ago, the devs have put little to no effort into this for over 4 months of no real content, it was honesty clear. This update could’ve been pulled off in even just 1 week and it would’ve been the same
@matthewdeklerk3457
@matthewdeklerk3457 3 күн бұрын
It's literally just the meteors mission modifiers but worse. They could have done it in ten seconds of coding. 2 months what a joke
@RomanGuro
@RomanGuro 2 күн бұрын
It's hard to believe that the developers came up with such bad realizations. I thought it would hit random enemies' bases from time to time, not just random useless drops. 💀 The problem is, this is not just random event. The Devs have been cooking this for months, and people are waiting for it, donating, and doing orders!
@devindoge5510
@devindoge5510 3 күн бұрын
My favorite part is all the clips with NO enemies around but the barrage is still hitting just to kill people. I have a fix that's not great but a very easy one that would make it less annoying, THE BARRAGE MARKS ITS AREA AND GIVES YOU TIME TO MOVE. Like is thinking that damn hard.
@devindoge5510
@devindoge5510 3 күн бұрын
Bigger issue no one seems to talk about, what about when the thing is good and then it gets hogged by the highest population of players? The community already hates each other for fighting one faction and now they add this to make it worse.
@bryansmith2859
@bryansmith2859 3 күн бұрын
I’m wearing blast armor and shield pack and haven’t gotten killed by the DSS.
@rzr0015
@rzr0015 3 күн бұрын
​@@bryansmith2859congratulations, meet with the dev team at 10 pm for your scheduled pegging session.
@devindoge5510
@devindoge5510 2 күн бұрын
Good for you? So instead of fixing an issue people should just not play the game the way they want to?
@Lakelaogaiorthewin
@Lakelaogaiorthewin 2 күн бұрын
Thank god videos are finally coming out on how absolutely garbage the system is. The first couple of hours and reading the whole “I actually love the chaos and really understand what they’re trying to do” was so so fkn cringe. Not to mention people commenting dumb shit like just reinforce arrowheads brain dead decisions. #DownWithGlazeDivers
@3literdieselengine264
@3literdieselengine264 2 күн бұрын
Just another whole nothing burger of arrowhead. Let's just throw the thing into meridia and see what happens.
@ELTWINKY-_-PR
@ELTWINKY-_-PR 3 күн бұрын
Before it was finished, I was expecting the DSS to give players some OP stratagems temporarily. And even after I saw what it was gonna be, I thought maybe it will target enemies, not just randomly bombard everything
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 2 күн бұрын
6:46 very much this. The barrages would be way less of a nuisance if the entire enemy spawn system wasn’t “keep teleporting in ambush squads right behind the players or a nearby rock”. If let’s say half the enemies spawned at an active base then strolled towards the new flares/farts gaining reinforcements as it travelled before you finally see the army cresting the hill coming after you that would give the DSS something to shoot at that’s not already in knife fight range of the helldivers
@Partiallyinteresting410
@Partiallyinteresting410 2 күн бұрын
3:20 supply pack+heavy fortified was what I found the most success with, you’ll still die to direct hits, but with indirect hits you take a lot less damage from the shell and can often stim to survive wherever you land. Also here’s a “quick” explanation of the best way I know to not get bombed (still will happen, but makes it less likely) Explanation of mechanics: •up to 2 people will randomly selected as barrage centers •It seems like the barrage is a 100M radius that linearly gets less likely to hit as you approach the center. •the shells take a while to fall, so you may get hit outside the 100M if the targeted is moving and will get hit more if you’re moving •The barraged will usually have a weather banner, but it doesn’t seem like they always do Strategy: •everyone (including the barraged) should be either outside 100M or as close as possible to all people being barraged •if you’re distance isn’t safe (and you don’t need to run from enemies), lie down to reduce ragdoll and explosion damage •try to figure out who has the barrage, ask about weather banners then just see who’s exploding •wear heavy fortified, I do this anyways but any light armor warriors will probably take a lot more damage from any indirect hit Most of this was gotten by stealing from people on discord and testing, so it’s not 100% accurate, but it got my team a super helldive Mastia win with ~3 deaths total
@ElusivePandaMan
@ElusivePandaMan 2 күн бұрын
Anyone left defending Arrowhead can officialy be called a cultist. There is no shot for anyone with non-glazed brain to stand for this.
@prebenkul
@prebenkul 3 күн бұрын
Good news though, people voted for the CSS to go back to gaellivare even tho we have zero chance in defending it, and according to the dispatches, if the bots take the planet while its in orbit, it would be an i quote "In extreme danger". Rip the DSS, you weren't good and you didn't even last an MO.
@tylermacleish2487
@tylermacleish2487 3 күн бұрын
I started dark tide because of you ohdough im liking it a lot, I uninstalled this bad game
@jacktheripper7935
@jacktheripper7935 2 күн бұрын
I did ONE mission with the bombardment, never again. Literally 90% of my team's deaths were due to this sh*tty bombardment and we ran out of reinforcements super fast... I almost ragequitted when I got killed 3 times in a row just after a landing...
@malguskerensky
@malguskerensky 2 күн бұрын
Test Server? Internal Design Review? Common sense based on previous player feedback? Arrowhead Studio just does not learn.
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 2 күн бұрын
I swear to god that those meteors used to blink once as it spawned on behind you like the enemies used to. If you didn’t spot the old version in the half second it warned you your u just died. Now the light stays on.
@datseb997
@datseb997 3 күн бұрын
Just let the bots destroy it. We can remake another one that doesn't target only helldivers.
@kesn8317
@kesn8317 2 күн бұрын
problem is dataleakers confirmed that this is a no effort recycled code of traitor barrage, they merely gave it a big inaccuracy so it shoots around the diver but can still pinpoint by chace, that is why it never attacks fortresses, just around the diver
@AlessandroParisi95
@AlessandroParisi95 2 күн бұрын
Helldivers has become more of a meme than a game. The devs are an absolute disgrace and can’t do one single good thing. Unbelievable
@Antisanitarix
@Antisanitarix 2 күн бұрын
those reddit posts are on point. i really want strategy in my tactical shooters. I just wonder when HD2 became one?
@Foxador
@Foxador 3 күн бұрын
There's a 7 day cooldown on the DSS abilities so even if you liked the bombardment or wanted to switch to the booster, you can only do so once a week. IE Once you use one of the abilities that ability goes on a 7 day cooldown before it can be used again Source: The game it's self when you look at the DSS screen
@Malphorus
@Malphorus 3 күн бұрын
Yeah, what do you know. Jumping on the ground and wiggling like a worm for 40 minutes is how you're supposed to survive.
@Embrace69247
@Embrace69247 2 күн бұрын
After being forced to improve weapons after review bombs we at arrowhead have decided to take revenge against the community and their complaints by making the long sort after DSS an active planetary modifier instead of a tactical additional stratagem.
@9unslin9er
@9unslin9er 3 күн бұрын
No the DSS trolling isn't what's pathetic. What's pathetic is people not understanding that Gaellivare is a lv.47 Defense and liberating Mastia will instantly net us a Major Order W. There are 25,000 idiots playing the game right now. Can't blame the bugdivers.
@wuzzman40k
@wuzzman40k 2 күн бұрын
Man, if helldivers 2 was designed like an actual video game, they wouldn't be having these problem.
@sub7se7en
@sub7se7en 3 күн бұрын
The department of social security can't be that bad
@arthuryatsenov7790
@arthuryatsenov7790 3 күн бұрын
I actually hate this game. Took a 2 week break from it, came back and even after "improving" the weapons it feels so bad and frustrating and, honestly, after a 12 minute mission I just quit
@bored_person1640
@bored_person1640 3 күн бұрын
the dss single handedly got rid of half of our entire reinforcement budget on a round i played
@Necroes
@Necroes 2 күн бұрын
As someone who fights almost exclusively bugs: Just get good, divers! In all seriousness, though; It makes no sense that you would launch orbital bombardment at a section of the planet that has an ongoing operation. Especially when this bombardment is supposed to be coming from the DSS itself, which is a single space station firing from orbit. What would have made Much more sense is if all operations only spawned on one side of the planet, where it wasn't being actively bombarded; That way, all missions happen during the day.
@NoNo-xh7ru
@NoNo-xh7ru 3 күн бұрын
This had to have been made during the nerfdivers era. There’s no fucking way they thought this through.
@notascoutface1268
@notascoutface1268 2 күн бұрын
I agree that the game is way too easy for what it is. And it sucks, since this game could be so much better in the difficulty department. Its not that hard to increase the difficulty either, they could just take example from HD1 and just crank enemy spawns to 11, but arrowhead can't do that due to "limitations" What limitations exactly? Ive had missions were there was an army of 100+ bugs or bots and my game performance was not hit that hard. But I think that "limitations" is just an excuse. Instead of increasing difficulty in the fun way, they just make arbitrary and braindead decisions to take player agency away, which is a terrible way to balance difficulty.
@thePatryn
@thePatryn 2 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed HD2 back in the day... Nowadays I truly despise the devs and believing that all the good things in the game was either did by Sony's engineers or hired freelancers as in Arrowhead is absolutely no talent whatsoever
@effive7817
@effive7817 2 күн бұрын
Harness the inner South Park with that ending there
@07buicklucerne
@07buicklucerne 3 күн бұрын
Easy fix... increase the number of bombardment intervals, lets say like 5-10 per match. But when bombardment starts, show an area of affect on the map, at least give the player the tools to avoid that area. They can even make the area large, like a quarter of the map at a time. But to bombard the entire map almost the entire time is a little overboard.
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