The Disturbing Death Disparity on North American Roads

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@de-fault_de-fault
@de-fault_de-fault 9 ай бұрын
“You’re not allowed to notice our city is making people die for no reason, because you’re not from here” is an interesting argument
@micosstar
@micosstar 9 ай бұрын
the argument i believe makes sense if Miami bans visitors (or make some ridiculous law like "no looking at a car within 10 feet if you are pedistrian on public roads" and then get a citation)
@alexseguin5245
@alexseguin5245 9 ай бұрын
Truly one of the arguments of all time
@AMPProf
@AMPProf 9 ай бұрын
Yah I also splz realy good
@enmorot
@enmorot 9 ай бұрын
Underrated comment!
@brandonkirisaki9708
@brandonkirisaki9708 9 ай бұрын
STOP TELLING ME THAT I AM SUBJECT TO THE LAWS OF PROBABILITY AND STOCHASTIC PROCESSES /joke
@stephensmith1509
@stephensmith1509 9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to the Miami folks who were offended but when someone can come in with numbers and prove that *Edmonton* is doing better than you by an order of magnitude, you've got to get your shit together
@domingonavarro1288
@domingonavarro1288 9 ай бұрын
Miami has 3X’s the population….
@maoschanz4665
@maoschanz4665 9 ай бұрын
@@domingonavarro1288do you understand what "rate per 100k population" means?
@gabrielgarcia7554
@gabrielgarcia7554 9 ай бұрын
@maoschanz4665 Expecting people from Miami to understand anything is a tall ask tbh.
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 9 ай бұрын
Miami can always fall back on "we have better weather".
@richatlarge462
@richatlarge462 9 ай бұрын
@@sexygeek8996outside of hurricane season and summer
@CaptHB
@CaptHB 9 ай бұрын
lmao "NOOO YOU GUYS DONT UNDERSTAND WE JUST KILL MORE PEOPLE WITH CARS DOWN HERE THAT'S OUR CULTURE" is what I'm hearing from carbrains.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 9 ай бұрын
The problem is the internet has allowed Am3ric4ns to be shown that they DONT live in "the greatest country on the planet" they just live in an ordinary country with lots of sh!tty stuff that others do better. And they simply can not cope with it - their personality is built on this myth...
@Dill709
@Dill709 9 ай бұрын
I read that as "carbarians" and I think it totally works.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 9 ай бұрын
@Den_store_Kalmarunion Ive had to talk to lots of Am3ric4ns as aprt of my job - to many the fact you are poor is in and of its self proof you are morally bankrupt, to them you can NOT be poor and a "good" or "decent" person, if you were - you would not be poor Its a personal kind of "manifest destiny" or even "god would have blessed you if you deserve it" The FACT you are poor is and in its self obvious proof of your failings in life - it can NOT be an unjust system, they wre NOT privileged - YOU are unworthy its a really hard concept for a European to even get
@Zalis116
@Zalis116 9 ай бұрын
@@piccalillipit9211 The succinct American term for this is "prosperity gospel," which also works in reverse, i.e. "my wealth and success are proof that I am a virtuous and moral person!"
@patriot9487
@patriot9487 9 ай бұрын
My country is such a joke
@themanyouwanttobe
@themanyouwanttobe 9 ай бұрын
"Stop criticizing Miami!" "Well, now we're going to criticize harder."
@achen131
@achen131 9 ай бұрын
Based tbh
@micosstar
@micosstar 9 ай бұрын
@@achen131seriously, to crticize means to exercise free speech!
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz 9 ай бұрын
They deserve being criticized
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz 9 ай бұрын
@@micosstarthey don’t like that type of free speech, they like the hate speech and disinformation
@PendulumCancel
@PendulumCancel 9 ай бұрын
It is ironic because I've seen people from other states calling NYC drivers the worst drivers in the country despite statistics showing the complete opposite. Extreme polarization is the worst. At some point you lose the ability to even understand basic numbers in adulthood which is something we all learn about as early as grade school.
@denali637
@denali637 9 ай бұрын
The "safety=crime statistics" paradigm is infuriating.
@gamewarrior010
@gamewarrior010 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, crime is something that is very connected to Miami in popular culture. And we have shows like Miami Vice to thank for that.
@AbstractEntityJ
@AbstractEntityJ 9 ай бұрын
It's partly because people have the idea that crime is something outside of their control, while getting in a car accident (whether as a driver or as a pedestrian) is somehow entirely within their control.
@sven_ftw
@sven_ftw 9 ай бұрын
There was a person who replied in a public setting recently in my area to a proposed protected bike lane installation saying the city needed to worry about crime, not "recreational cyclists". That road had 4 traffic-related deaths on it in the most recent couple of years. The ward it was in had ZERO homicides in that same time period. /facepalm.
@baddriversofcolga
@baddriversofcolga 9 ай бұрын
Especially since violent crimes are very much tied to who you associate with. Traffic safety applies to anyone who goes anywhere.
@olska9498
@olska9498 9 ай бұрын
@@baddriversofcolga And children die much more often in traffic accidents than by homicides. But the self-proclaimed children protectors suddenly don't care about child safety all of a sudden...
@rabbbirumba2397
@rabbbirumba2397 9 ай бұрын
As someone who lives in Miami (Part of the year at least) your previous video definitely nailed it. I don’t think any of the Miami residents who criticized you actually walk or bike in the city. As someone who does both I can confirm it’s a pretty crappy experience. Even by North American standards.
@Arjay404
@Arjay404 9 ай бұрын
6:39 "Driving is freedom" I would agree with this under a very big caveat, it's true IF it's a OPTION. Personally, this is the one thing I hate the most about this whole thing, even more then the roads being too big, speeds too high, cars too big, it being more dangerous, etcetc. Just the fact that for most people in the US in order to simply have a chance to thrive, you HAVE to drive a car. Cars are amazing, but being REQUIRED to get into a car and drive just to buy bread is insane.
@Pystro
@Pystro 9 ай бұрын
Like that line in a song in "Team America: World Police" says: "Freedom is the only choice".
@malonea27
@malonea27 9 ай бұрын
The "driving is freedom" statement resonates with me too, but so does "biking is freedom", or "frequent public transit is freedom". Freedom is just the ability to get wherever you want to go, and not be constrained to a small set of choices on how/when you can get there. Biking gives you that on a small scale in a city which supports it, and frequent trains between cities gives you that over longer distances. Driving isn't the only source of "freedom".
@ianhomerpura8937
@ianhomerpura8937 9 ай бұрын
​​@@malonea27 when I mention "more options mean more freedom", the very next thing they mention is "I don't want my taxes wasted on unprofitable public transit" and other similar shit. Like why? I don't get why they feel the need to push that everything be profitable.
@delftfietser
@delftfietser 9 ай бұрын
Gravity makes dance possible because you are pulled into the floor. No gravity, no floor contact, no dance. Doing without gravity is not an option. The lack of that choice makes the freedom of dance possible. Constraints, whether chosen or not, do make freedoms possible.
@alfredsaalo1441
@alfredsaalo1441 9 ай бұрын
​​​@@ianhomerpura8937True, and in what way do they think owning a car is profitable? Unless you rent it to someone it will always cost you money. Transportation is needed for a society to function and public transit ans biking is often the most cost effective option. Especially if you account for negative externalities. It's not like a city's transportation costs dissapear if it is payed by individuals
@christinevigeland5196
@christinevigeland5196 9 ай бұрын
This video is great. As an American, I'm ashamed by the fact that Americans seem to think of traffic deaths as an inevitable part of life. If a pedestrian or cyclist is killed by a car, they are usually blamed for using the road without a car.
@jamalgibson8139
@jamalgibson8139 9 ай бұрын
As an engineer, this one is particularly depressing. Remember, roads in the US are designed to specific standards. Imagine if we had an electrical code that set standards for electrical products in the US that just randomly electrocuted 40k people per year. How absurd would that be? Even worse if those electrical products were the leading cause of death for children for decades! This is my main reason as to why this argument is indefensible, because our engineering codes explicitly allow this to happen. If we want to change our roads, we have to change our codes.
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 9 ай бұрын
No, they're not. Federal highways have standards, but local road standards are at the state level or lower. Often the issue is developers & local government collusion approving construction that is too high density for the available infrastructure. I live in Florida, and a road that was 2 lanes when I was growing up in the 90s is now six lanes. A drive that took 15 minutes in 1994 might take an hour today.
@jamalgibson8139
@jamalgibson8139 9 ай бұрын
@@PsRohrbaugh I'm not sure what you're talking about. All roads are designed to standards, and in the US that standard is (almost always) the Manual for Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD). The problem is that this standard was written in the 50s mostly for highway construction but has been adopted by state and local agencies, often by law, for all road construction. So we have highway sized roads running through residential areas, or stroads running through retail centers. You're not wrong about local government working against making improvements, though. It's not so much that they approve development that's too dense; it's that they view everything from a lense of car dependency, and see road widening as the only tool to improve transportation access. This isn't helped by the general public also lacking understanding and awareness of the issues with car dependence, but that's why it's important to educate folks on the issues.
@moosesandmeese969
@moosesandmeese969 9 ай бұрын
One of the most shocking things I found going through the statistics is that the US has a higher rate of drunk driving deaths and a higher percentage of crashes that are due to drunk driving than in *Russia*
@HallsofAsgard96
@HallsofAsgard96 9 ай бұрын
THAT'S INSANE!! 🤯 Did u find out why? I thought Russian babies had vodka in Thier formula?? (sarcasm)
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 9 ай бұрын
@@HallsofAsgard96maybe because of that, Russians are used to do things while drunk ;) Still, a country with potholes large enough to swallow a pickup, cars which had their last inspection 30 years ago, drunk driving being the norm and basically no law enforcement does better than "gods own country"… Oh, and wearing a seat belt in Russia is seen as an insult to the driver.
@quackywhackityphillyb.3005
@quackywhackityphillyb.3005 9 ай бұрын
You know there is more to russia than vodka and spys, right?? Not to mention they have some very advanced transit systems
@conorreynolds9739
@conorreynolds9739 9 ай бұрын
Not to absolve the US (I had an uncle killed by a drunk driver), but I don’t really trust any data coming out of that country.
@MrAronymous
@MrAronymous 9 ай бұрын
I would say Russia is mostly less car dependant as a whole than the US. Most people there live in cities in the typical "commieblocks" style (denser than US suburbs) that have supermarkets and bars at walking distance. During day time there is also public transit available. There really is no reason to drink and drive there. Bars located in an environment that require you to drive there fulfill a self-defeating purpose and somehow only make sense in America.
@cyclingzen
@cyclingzen 9 ай бұрын
It's beyond frustrating to see people thinking autonomous vehicles are the silver bullet for pedestrian safety. Why are we not focusing on improving public transportation and road infrastructure, which are proven solutions to make streets safer for everyone? Betting everything on tech that's still in its infancy over practical, tangible improvements is just mind-boggling. Especially when autonomous vehicles will have their own safety problems!!
@lonestarr1490
@lonestarr1490 9 ай бұрын
I work in software testing and we're currently involved in ongoing research programs regarding pedestrian recognition (through AI, of course). We're basically trying to come up with a paradigm about how to tell if you've tested the software "thoroughly enough" (which is a necessary measure for certifications and such). It's already clear that 100% certainty is unachievable. Even if you just focus on preventing false negatives, you basically have no way of testing every circumstance that might occur. And this is only about pedestrians so far. No cyclists or motorcyclists. That's why I predict: should autonomous vehicles actually become a widespread means of transportation, they will kill people. Probably less than die nowadays. In some areas even a lot less, I can imagine. But we won't see traffic fatalities going away completely in our lifetimes.
@DiogenesOfCa
@DiogenesOfCa 9 ай бұрын
@@lonestarr1490 Autonomous cars WON"T serve the poor. We already see this with Uber not going into "bad" neighborhoods. Just another way to keep the poor in their place.
@scruf153
@scruf153 9 ай бұрын
the politicians have invvested there money in the stock market
@denelson83
@denelson83 9 ай бұрын
Because capitalism opposes public transportation, and capitalism has *way* too much power in this world.
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
Autonomous cars are still cars. The real solution is improving walkability, cycling infrastructure and public transport.
@gamewarrior010
@gamewarrior010 9 ай бұрын
As someone from Miami who has driven in a lot of places, Miami has some of the most aggressive drivers I’ve ever encountered this combined with the fact that the city is so car dependent that a lot of people who have any option but to use cars don’t have a drivers license or insurance.
@Redrally
@Redrally 9 ай бұрын
That's terrifying
@sven_ftw
@sven_ftw 9 ай бұрын
Florida as a whole.. drivers speed SO FAST. And lots of sports cars and large SUVs too.
@scruf153
@scruf153 9 ай бұрын
that is the problem too many people driving most people drive only 3 to 5 miles a day I cycle more than that and I am 48 living in Alabama
@denelson83
@denelson83 9 ай бұрын
​@@sven_ftwIf only speed limits could be enforced by EMP. You drive too fast, your vehicle gets permanently disabled, which results in at least a five-figure financial penalty.
@Fenthule
@Fenthule 9 ай бұрын
I won a cruise trip some years ago and had to fly to Ft Lauderdale to get on the boat. Our planes had issues so we missed the connecting flight and came in the morning we had to board rather than the night prior, and thus the driver was instructed to speed. OH MY GOD. My dad and I were white knuckling our seats the entire time, along with everyone else on board. This dude was driving like a maniac, but what was worse, was that we weren't the only ones. There was 2 other busses and several cars all basically doing what could best be described as impromptu Fast and Furious races down the freeway. It was absolutely insane. Upon getting back home from that trip both of us decided we weren't going to travel to Florida ever again. I've since extended that to the US as a whole.
@YourCanadianGuide
@YourCanadianGuide 9 ай бұрын
I get that people don't want someone to show up and criticize them from their high horse, it makes sense. However, if your city has poorly designed infrastructure that's flat out more dangerous, sometimes you need someone to point it out and get the conversation moving. Especially if you are speaking out in behalf of marginalized people in their community (poor people who walk/rely on public transit/don't have $80k for a RAM pickup that never towes anything).
@TomPVideo
@TomPVideo 9 ай бұрын
I welcome outsiders being critical of my city. It's with everything that you do: sometimes you get so caught up in your way of doing things that you never consider an oftentimes minor change that could result in a major improvement.
@bloodycrepe
@bloodycrepe 9 ай бұрын
The irony is both Montreal and Toronto that get praised by this channel are terribly designed cities. Both have absolutely horrendous public transit and very poor drivers. Montreal was the worst city I've visited when it comes to drivers. Careless, aggressive and zero concern with pedestrian safety. So the high horse is actually a donkey.
@mindstalk
@mindstalk 9 ай бұрын
@@bloodycrepe They're great compared to most US cities, and however you measure driver quality, they kill a lot fewer people than US drivers.
@bloodycrepe
@bloodycrepe 9 ай бұрын
@@mindstalk I couldn't disagree more. They are overrated, ran by incompetent branches of government that do not communicate to each other, incoherent with fundamental issues that this channel conveniently skimps over. I lived in GTA for over 20 years. It's funny how people that visited it as tourists try to tell me how "great" it is.
@mindstalk
@mindstalk 9 ай бұрын
@@bloodycrepe You seem to be having trouble grasping "compared to most US cities".
@sophanphin4199
@sophanphin4199 9 ай бұрын
I live in Boston but work in Miami (actually Coral Gables) so I'm there quite oftn. As someone who spends a lot of time in the major cities in the Northeast (NYC, Boston, Philly but also Toronto and Montreal). I can say without a doubt, Miami is the scariest to walk and bike in. Its not just the larger vehicles but also the mixing of high speed roads and smaller residential streets. You can be biking or walking on a quiet residential street (often with no sidewalk) then suddenly find yourself needing to cross a busy 5-lane road with cars reaching near highway speeds.
@nwash0080110
@nwash0080110 9 ай бұрын
I’m from Miami, I grew up in South Miami and went to highschool in Kendall. I never had a car and my parents couldn’t drive me around all the time so that meant I had to walk, bike or try to take public transit to get around as a kid. I grew up just assuming that car centrism was the standard and kind of took pride in getting around despite how difficult it was without a car. Then I moved to DC for college and realized how incredibly unfair and isolating car centric infrastructure really is. This video was really vindicating
@frankhammond9909
@frankhammond9909 9 ай бұрын
Nice, actually I was nearly the exact same. Grew up in South Miami and Pinecrest and went to highschool downtown, and never drove. I even went to FIU for a semester taking the city bus. Once I left Miami for college it became much easier to be without a car, and even to this day I barely drive and get around just fine. It's doable down there if you are mostly along the coast, and have some good luck and amazing cat like reflexes.
@neiljohnson6815
@neiljohnson6815 9 ай бұрын
"car centric". the new leftist buzz word.
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
@@neiljohnson6815people on both sides are increasingly realising the dangers of car dependence. It's not a "left vs. right" political issue; it's good vs. bad planning/policy. Politicising the issue is incredibly ignorant and needs to stop.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 9 ай бұрын
*MY ENTIRE EUROPEAN COUNTRY HAD 468* traffic fatalities last year - and the newspapers are complaining that that is way higher than the EU average per capita 73 per 1 million Miami Dade County is 163 per 1 million and we are THE WORST in Europe - the average is 46 per 1 mill and the lowest is Norway with 21 per 1 mill
@pettahify
@pettahify 9 ай бұрын
This ☝️👆
@chrisbartolini1508
@chrisbartolini1508 9 ай бұрын
What’s the rate of car ownership?
@vask3863
@vask3863 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisbartolini1508 Car ownership is very high in Europe. Each family has at least one car. But it's less used, when you have better alternatives to choose from (public transportation, bicycles, etc.).
@chrisbartolini1508
@chrisbartolini1508 9 ай бұрын
@@vask3863 i mean thank god for that, because as bad as we are, European drivers are by far worse. Traffic deaths would be borderline apocalyptic if they had our cities.
@stephenlee5929
@stephenlee5929 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisbartolini1508 I'm not sure what this question is trying to get at. I people don't own cars, they still get around, go to work, shop, etc... Are you suggesting owning a car is inherently dangerous?
@TommyJonesProductions
@TommyJonesProductions 9 ай бұрын
Hey! SUVs may be dangerous, get poor gas mileage, have horrible handling, and poor visibility, but at least they look stupid!
@AbstractEntityJ
@AbstractEntityJ 9 ай бұрын
Plus their size makes them impractical anywhere with narrow streets, and they're difficult to park in many places for that reason.
@TommyJonesProductions
@TommyJonesProductions 9 ай бұрын
@@AbstractEntityJ - We call them "normal sized streets" here. The extra wide lanes out in the suburbs make for ridiculously wide intersections.
@tommyshanks4198
@tommyshanks4198 9 ай бұрын
Huh? I get 4l/100km on mine. Handles similar to a sedan. Visibility is alright, especially with the backup and fwd camera. What century SUV are you talking about?
@juliansmith4295
@juliansmith4295 9 ай бұрын
@@tommyshanks4198 What on Earth is a forward camera for?
@FrostyShadowYT
@FrostyShadowYT 9 ай бұрын
@@tommyshanks4198 the fact that you need a forward facing camera already shows that the car is poorly designed. A driver should be able to see what's in front of their car without a camera.
@yogtheterrible
@yogtheterrible 9 ай бұрын
The really stupid thing of people defending pedestrians is EVERYONE IS A PEDESTRIAN. It doesn't matter who you are, if you leave your house at some point in your day you are walking to or from your car and a building.
@littlesnarf
@littlesnarf 9 ай бұрын
Yeah. The hostility towards pedestrians is super weird. I think about this a lot. It's like... dude, you are me.
@Armor23OnPatrol
@Armor23OnPatrol 8 ай бұрын
*proceeds to build roads inside buildings to eliminate the pedestrian cause*
@Poptartsicles
@Poptartsicles 9 ай бұрын
To all the skeptics who are anti-pedestrian and anti-public transport. The great thing about pedestrian friendly and public transport friendly cities is they're still car friendly too. They're safer for you to drive in, there's less traffic, and the places you do need to drive to aren't as far away. It's a win win scenario for literally everyone.
@chrismoule7242
@chrismoule7242 8 ай бұрын
This...
@denverspin
@denverspin 8 ай бұрын
Yes. But the auto manufacturers and oil companies don’t believe so. And they pull the strings. $$$$$
@BenriBea
@BenriBea 9 ай бұрын
"My convenience and comfort is more important than your life" should be the US' slogan at this point
@theuncalledfor
@theuncalledfor 9 ай бұрын
Except the car-centric world of North America is neither convenient nor comfortable. There is literally no reason, NONE, to oppose better transit and walkability. Having viable alternatives to driving _makes driving better for drivers._ Less cars on the road requires less extreme intersections to cope with all that traffic makes driving more relaxed and comfortable and you get to your destination faster and more safely. Any opposition to better transit and walkability comes purely from a position of arrogant, wilful ignorance, an unwillingness to learn and change one's position under any circumstances. So here's my proposal for a new slogan: "My ignorance and delusions are more important than my own life."
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
*most of the country, not all. Generalising an entire nation is incredibly ignorant and something only NJB and his equally obnoxious fanboys do.
@toasterowens8916
@toasterowens8916 9 ай бұрын
@@crowmob-yo6ry feel like its his fans that do that more than him
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 9 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!@@theuncalledfor
@gregorybiestek3431
@gregorybiestek3431 9 ай бұрын
For everyone's information - In January 2024 the city of Eastpointe, Michigan proposed a road diet to make a five lane highway (2 in each direction plus a turn lane) into a three lane road. Approximately 75% of the populace, INCLUDING almost all the millennials & gen z attacked this plan. There were protests, threats of legal actions by businesses and letters & emails to the state highway dept. Finally on March 19, 2024 the city relented and voted to reverse its plans and will now sign a contract by March 31, 2024 to merely repair the five lane highway to keep it as it is. Most of the people who forced this reversal are people of color and young working class families. It seems they like things the way they are.
@HallsofAsgard96
@HallsofAsgard96 9 ай бұрын
This was the video i was waiting for from CityNerd. He showed in one of his videos that the traffic fatality rates were worse here in the US compared to our northern neighbours. Thanks guys
@maoschanz4665
@maoschanz4665 9 ай бұрын
people from the FREEDOM OF SPEECH country will gladly explain that you shouldn't be allowed to have a negative opinion on the places you visit as a tourist. The world cup will be wild
@carloszenteno
@carloszenteno 9 ай бұрын
Wild? Boring. The last one there was boring. Police do not let the fans party anywhere and disperse any gatherings of more than 10 people. Very boring world cup.
@michaelk.jensen1611
@michaelk.jensen1611 9 ай бұрын
It isnt really a super negative comment about its entirety, its about a specific thing, which they are very interested in and they made some friendly notes we all could use and take into account. Yeah i get defensive too, but i still try to listen and not take it as a bad thing, why not taking it as a caring thing? Thats how i read it.
@josephcarreon2341
@josephcarreon2341 9 ай бұрын
You cannot reason a person out of a position that they did not reason themselves into. The people making those comments were not only born into the car-centric lifestyle, but they have never had to, nor do they ever want to, question their own beliefs. It's an unfortunate truth. Don't waste your time replying to any comments like that. Use that energy to instead go out to your next local city meeting or start/join your local strong towns community. We have the numbers to turn this around. We just need you all to be more involved. The change for progress is right at our fingertips!
@dudeguy2330
@dudeguy2330 9 ай бұрын
The purpose of public arguments isn't to convince your opponent. It's to convince the gallery. Videos like this probably won't change the minds of people too entrenched in their delusions to recognize the objective harm Miami's car culture causes, but they will change the minds of people who are vaguely aware that there might be a problem and just never considered the full statistical reality of it, or who are kind of on the fence and thought the critics had good points. Even if car-brain cannot be reasoned with, it should be challenged whenever the opportunity presents itself, because letting it go unchallenged allows it to spread, while challenging it helps to build the political will to make the changes that need to be made.
@josephcarreon2341
@josephcarreon2341 9 ай бұрын
@@dudeguy2330 Way to miss my point entirely. 🤣 I never once said videos like this weren't necessary. My comment wasn't even towards any urban youtuber. It was for the people watching. Public arguments are NOT youtube comments as that would mean both sides would need to remain civil, which is a rarity in youtube comments between people of extreme opposite beliefs. And when did I say to let it go unchallenged? I'm actively telling people to be more active in local voting/involvement to which is challenging the car-centric believers to the utmost. You very clearly did not understand what I was saying and came off extremely pretentious. Do better with your responses.
@gregorybiestek3431
@gregorybiestek3431 9 ай бұрын
@@josephcarreon2341 For your information - In January 2024 the city of Eastpointe, Michigan proposed a road diet to make a five lane highway (2 in each direction plus a turn lane) into a three lane road. Approximately 75% of the populace, INCLUDING almost all the millennials & gen z attacked this plan. There were protests, threats of legal actions by businesses and letters & emails to the state highway dept. Finally on March 19, 2024 the city relented and voted to reverse its plans and will now sign a contract by March 31, 2024 to merely repair the five lane highway to keep it as it is. Most of the people who forced this reversal are people of color and young working class families. It seems they like things the way they are.
@MrCyclist
@MrCyclist 9 ай бұрын
Toronto here. I spend two months in the winter in Apopka just north of Orlando. As a cyclist and part time car driver it is a pleasure to do both. I refuse to even drive much less bike south of Jupiter. West Palm Beach and further south is to be avoided. It is insane and super stressful. The reason for the high fatalities. Keep pointing out these insane places so everybody knows where to avoid.
@theuncalledfor
@theuncalledfor 9 ай бұрын
>video: respectful, rational criticism of unsafe road designs >response: "OH MY GOD YOUR SUCH KARENZ!!!11!!1" A Karen is a selfish and entitled individual that makes unreasonable demands and makes a scene at the slightest perceived provocation. Karens are known for hypocrisy, where reasonable criticisms against them are seen as severe personal insults, a failure to meet their unreasonable demands is viewed as a crime, and any similar behaviour from others, who are not the Karen's personal friend or valued family member, is met with dismissal at best and unbridled rage at worst. Calling others "Karens" to shut down legitimate criticism seems consistent with Karen behaviour patterns.
@gregorybiestek3431
@gregorybiestek3431 9 ай бұрын
For your information - In January 2024 the city of Eastpointe, Michigan proposed a road diet to make a five lane highway (2 in each direction plus a turn lane) into a three lane road. Approximately 75% of the populace, INCLUDING almost all the millennials & gen z attacked this plan. There were protests, threats of legal actions by businesses and letters & emails to the state highway dept. Finally on March 19, 2024 the city relented and voted to reverse its plans and will now sign a contract by March 31, 2024 to merely repair the five lane highway to keep it as it is. Most of the people who forced this reversal are people of color and young working class families. It seems they like things the way they are.
@gabrieldomocos7570
@gabrieldomocos7570 9 ай бұрын
But Charlie Kirk already explained that 50k road fatalities per year is the price of freedom, and all Americans agree. Also, transit makes you trans, it's in the name, and trains also make you trans but they added a letter to confuse children
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like something Kirk would say. He once said any man who rides a Lime e-scooter is automatically a vegan soyboy beta male.
@Alina_Schmidt
@Alina_Schmidt 9 ай бұрын
Like we needed another reason for more public transit and trakns 🏳️‍⚧️✨😉
@HorzaPanda
@HorzaPanda 9 ай бұрын
Cars make you free in the same way that turbotax makes doing taxes easy :P
@HorzaPanda
@HorzaPanda 9 ай бұрын
Also not surprised Jacksonville is No 4 😭
@smitajky
@smitajky 9 ай бұрын
Cars make you free in the same way that guns make you safe. Or that world trade makes everyone richer.
@tay-lore
@tay-lore 9 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you including mental health as a factor for some people who don't drive.
@dennisy2599
@dennisy2599 9 ай бұрын
The arguments in this video are unbeatable! Keep up the good work guys!!
@jpg3702
@jpg3702 9 ай бұрын
Recently there was tragic crash in San Francisco in which a driver crashed into a family of four waiting for the bus, killing all of them including an infant and toddler. This in a dense urban area with lots of transit, yet many great urbanist cities still have sections designed around cars and single family homes. These kinds of tragedies are reminders of why the work of Oh the Urbanity and the advocacy groups are so important.
@marcinanforowicz8319
@marcinanforowicz8319 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the informative videos. I like how you maintain an academic and respectful demeanor, even when discussing very emotional issues. Thanks for including charts, data, and satellite imagery. That's much more helpful than stock footage. Keep up the great work!
@JonathanCLacy
@JonathanCLacy 9 ай бұрын
As a resident of South Florida I need to say THANK YOU for this video!!!
@ShadLife
@ShadLife 9 ай бұрын
I live in Minneapolis. We are just shy of 1/2 million, but we have a large metro area because of Saint Paul and the surrounding suburbs. What is interesting is being a cyclist here, riding in Minneapolis or Saint Paul is pretty decent and vehicle traffic tends to respect you more, slow down, and give you space. But the moment you cross a border into one of the much more car centric suburbs, suddenly the roads are much less friendly to cyclists and pedestrians. Even the drivers will buzz closer to you, intentionally. They will oftentimes honk at you even though you have a legal right to be in the road. And most of these people are driving bigger vehicles like pickup trucks or larger SUVs. There is definitely an attitude shift as you get out into most suburbs. Some first ring suburbs like Saint Louis Park and Richfield are more bike and pedestrian friendly. But a wealthier suburb just South of Saint Louis Park called Edina is a whole different story. Those drivers are elitists, not only to cyclists and pedestrians, but other drivers also. It's clear to me the culture has a lot more to do with this. Sure, road design can help, but when people feel so privileged in their vehicle and don't stop for a school loading kids, that's an issue!!
@rosemarymcbride3419
@rosemarymcbride3419 9 ай бұрын
As a Twin Cities resident I can cosign all of this, except Edina being north of St. Louis Park
@ShadLife
@ShadLife 9 ай бұрын
@@rosemarymcbride3419 Ah... South...oops. I can fix that.
@StephanieHughesDesign
@StephanieHughesDesign 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you ShadLife. I used to live in the burbs of Mpls on the North West side. There were many stroads that I could not cycle on. In Los Angeles it is much worse.
@lizcademy4809
@lizcademy4809 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. I live just in the Lowry Hill area, and have no need for a car in daily life - so I no longer own one. Everything works well normally, the drivers respect non-drivers, mostly. A few times a year, I go shopping in Edina. Bus to Southdale, then lots of walking. The streets I have to cross are very stroad-like, drivers speed all the time. I'm very careful, use lights and beg buttons, get the driver's eye before I cross, and wave "thanks!" as I'm crossing. No problems so far, but after having been a driver myself for 40+ years, I can usually anticipate the high risk drivers. For anyone doing this, there's a lovely walk/bike path south from the Galleria, past the backs of many "medium box" stores. Only a couple streets to cross, no parking lots.
@ShadLife
@ShadLife 9 ай бұрын
@@lizcademy4809 The path from Centennial Lakes? It's short, but super nice. It also goes east towards the park with the YMCA in it. If you go west it leads to the nice 9 mile creek trail. Not really great commuter routes, but nice to recreate on.
@lucagattoni-celli1377
@lucagattoni-celli1377 8 ай бұрын
Highlighting injuries and the analogy to crime is incredibly powerful.
@chelseashurmantine8153
@chelseashurmantine8153 9 ай бұрын
I get frustrated moving to a new city and feeling like I’m not allowed to complain about how insanely dangerous the roads are. Like why the eff don’t we have sidewalks in this town? How blind and untraveled do you have to be to not notice that? Like how am I the weird one for wanting better? It doesn’t have to be this way
@gregorybiestek3431
@gregorybiestek3431 9 ай бұрын
For your information - In January 2024 the city of Eastpointe, Michigan proposed a road diet to make a five lane highway (2 in each direction plus a turn lane) into a three lane road. Approximately 75% of the populace, INCLUDING almost all the millennials & gen z attacked this plan. There were protests, threats of legal actions by businesses and letters & emails to the state highway dept. Finally on March 19, 2024 the city relented and voted to reverse its plans and will now sign a contract by March 31, 2024 to merely repair the five lane highway to keep it as it is. Most of the people who forced this reversal are people of color and young working class families. It seems they like things the way they are.
@nwsportstilidie
@nwsportstilidie 9 ай бұрын
@@gregorybiestek3431 I find that hard to believe given some of the millennials and gen z I have encountered.
@ericelfner
@ericelfner 9 ай бұрын
Rock on!! Those death rates are painful and difficult to internalize. Keep up the incredible work.
@xyzxyzxyzxyzxyzxyz
@xyzxyzxyzxyzxyzxyz 9 ай бұрын
As a comparison to actual Europe, Sweden has about 200 traffic fatalities per year. With a population of 10.5 million. And to the naysayers out there: No, this is not because Sweden is rural. Actually, the great majority of Swedish fatalities happen where it gets rural. Dense urban environments, like Miami-Dade, are the safest environments in Sweden. Sadly, not everything is perfect in Sweden. Traffic fatalities have greatly come down in recent years for motorists. But sadly not for bicyclists and pedestrians. Nearly all of Sweden's efforts at curbing traffic fatalities have been targeted at reducing motorist fatalities. Some of those measures, like traffic calming, also benefit pedestrians, but that is mostly an afterthought, not a result of active choice.
@linuxman7777
@linuxman7777 9 ай бұрын
The safest roads are divided highways. Stroads and Rural undivided roads are the most dangerous.
@Sp4mMe
@Sp4mMe 9 ай бұрын
This might be controversial to say, but "traffic deaths" also aren't just a linear number where less is always better. Your numbers might go up due to fundamentally good things - like the Dutch having more deaths on bicycles because of their excellent bicycle infrastructure, and thus more people using it, and among them more old and vulnerable people, where a fall more easily is deadly. Obviously the goal at the end should be 0 deaths, as far as that is possible, but if you get "some" deaths, there's a huge difference of those being because people are out and about and getting into accidents as opposed to getting them from avoidable stupid road design that still confines everyone else to their homes and into cars.
@GordonSlamsay
@GordonSlamsay 9 ай бұрын
I was so impressed in Sweden (though I only visited Stockholm and some of the surrounding area) low speed limits, drivers respected pedestrians no road salt, and all that gravel didn't track into buildings.
@edj4833
@edj4833 9 ай бұрын
Just let that sink in. 348 traffic fatalities in Miami Dade alone, more than the whole of Sweden, an actual county of 10 million.
@linuxman7777
@linuxman7777 9 ай бұрын
@@edj4833 some counties in the US are quite large, the county I live in has 1 million people. LA county has almost as many people as Sweden.
@LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts
@LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts 9 ай бұрын
Numbers don't lie. Keep up the excellent reporting. Momentum is building for a change in how we transport ourselves and the answer is NOT more roads, more lanes and faster speeds.
@theaveragejoe5781
@theaveragejoe5781 9 ай бұрын
Its a bit unfair tho to compare the US to Canada and EU given that the US is a developing country
@drakewalters2618
@drakewalters2618 9 ай бұрын
We all got cars at the same time. We all began road construction in the 50’s. We all began developing road networks At The Same Time. We went with massive stroads, highways, Euclidean zoning because we had an abundance of space to waste. other places in Europe like the Netherlands focused on building pedestrian based infrastructure. Our infrastructure is unsustainable financially. We can’t afford the amount of wear and tear on our current roads much less construction and maintenance of MORE roads.
@theaveragejoe5781
@theaveragejoe5781 9 ай бұрын
@drakewalters2618 would love to see a video on fair cost comparison of suburb vs city, public transit vs car. It's not simple tho, I understand
@helpanimals-
@helpanimals- 9 ай бұрын
haha love this. Yes, Let's tell Americans their country is still developing and see their reaction. They're like any poor country
@LouisChang-le7xo
@LouisChang-le7xo 9 ай бұрын
what do you mean the us is the RICHEST COUNTRY ON THE EARTH. Also miami is only ONE CITY, there are plenty of decent big cities in this country, especially in the northeast (philly, nyc, boston, dc, etc)
@nahuiollin6962
@nahuiollin6962 9 ай бұрын
​@@LouisChang-le7xo lol learn to read sarcasm 😂
@MultiCappie
@MultiCappie 8 ай бұрын
4:10 ... Edmonton just recently announced that 2023's traffic fatality rate had fallen by half.
@nickwannn
@nickwannn 9 ай бұрын
this is actually a great Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings moment but obviously opponents wouldn't hear it that way because it might actually challenge their notions
@michaelk.jensen1611
@michaelk.jensen1611 9 ай бұрын
That has always seemed an excuse to just ram things through, whether your point of view was based in facts or not, why not just see it as kindness and caring. If your kind and caring(not related to this specific topic, but in general), you will try and tell people if you think you need to talk about it, also something about talking with people not to them, if you do that and people can see you care there is also a good and better chance that it affects them and they take some of it in. Facts actually do care about our feelings, and its has always to me been something of a VERY arrogant stance, were you extremely cock sure that your idea or what you are saying is just so clearly right, even if you are right, such an attitude is untrustworthy , so people have to be wary if they have that approach, this makes the decision and the account of it more difficult, because now you have to navigate and evaluate their intent besides the information.
@maythesciencebewithyou
@maythesciencebewithyou 9 ай бұрын
If you haven't yet, you should show how pedestrian deaths had gone down significantly since the 90s, but then suddenly went back up again, correlating with the increase in SUVs and pick-ups.
@bramvanduijn8086
@bramvanduijn8086 9 ай бұрын
The idea that mass and speed can kill is apparently a well kept secret.
@Sythemn
@Sythemn 9 ай бұрын
Supposedly this entirely boils down to their looks, AKA, high hoods. There was some paper that showed that cars are already so heavy that the weight difference doesn't really matter. But getting smacked by a wall was an order of magnitude worse than falling on a hood. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6HYiWBrepyrpbc
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, even minivans manage to kill far fewer pedestrians per collision, despite being plenty heavy; it really is the high hoods
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 9 ай бұрын
@@bramvanduijn8086, Not everyone needs to take high school physics to get a high school diploma.
@nispelsm
@nispelsm 9 ай бұрын
@@prophetzarquon And the high bumpers, causing more pedestrians to end up going under the vehicle and getting run over, rather than knocked forward onto the pavement. In addition, those high-clearance pickups and SUVs are much more likely to "ramp" over a smaller vehicle and land on top of it, caving in the windshield and/or roof of the passenger compartment.
@icanhazADHD
@icanhazADHD 9 ай бұрын
Incredible that Boston is the #2 safest city in the USA. As a pedestrian, cyclist, and driver in Boston, it's honestly scary being on the road sometimes. I didn't realize it was THAT MUCH WORSE in other parts of the country! I guess I should feel lucky?
@Alina_Schmidt
@Alina_Schmidt 9 ай бұрын
When I found out my city was the worst to cycle in my state, I was a bit relieved. Happy that everyone else was better off 😆
@mindstalk
@mindstalk 9 ай бұрын
It'd be interesting to compare "number of crashes" to "number of deaths". You can have more collisions that don't kill people, if the cars aren't going very fast. And "not going very fast" describes a lot of Boston. :p But yeah, also just fewer and shorter trips than a place like Miami or Dallas.
@jayziac
@jayziac 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video, I hope everyone passes this onto their local politicians to raise awareness, and hopefully change!
@Abhishek0S
@Abhishek0S 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! I have never seen those numbers before, and it was really shocking how bad it is. Also, your argument for safety stats including traffic fatalities and not just crime, is very reasonable. This video needs to watched by everyone, I will do my part in sharing!
@Capybellie
@Capybellie 9 ай бұрын
Cars are freedom for drivers. Being able to choose if you want to drive, walk or take public transport is freedom for everyone
@Kattbirb
@Kattbirb 9 ай бұрын
Oh, Miami-Dade county gets worse. 358 car related deaths was fine, but a small town there having one ebike related death was enough to ban electric bikes and scooters from the whole town. The town of Key Biscayne if anyone is interested.
@fallenshallrise
@fallenshallrise 9 ай бұрын
Don't get me started. A hundred years of cars and motorcycles being able to exceed 100 MPH and it's just ignored but as soon as an ebike goes over 25 everyone starts freaking out.
@Kattbirb
@Kattbirb 9 ай бұрын
@@fallenshallrise Yeah, seriously. I'm going to register my next ebike as a moped just to get in front of that madness. As well as shutting up the folks complaining about not paying taxes.
@richardpetty9159
@richardpetty9159 9 ай бұрын
Legal and illegal are only loosely related to right and wrong.
@Kattbirb
@Kattbirb 9 ай бұрын
@@richardpetty9159 Very loosely.
@NathanBurnaman
@NathanBurnaman 9 ай бұрын
What’s crazy is that Florida…which has so many of the most dangerous cities…is a place where it’s flat and never snows…so bike and transit infrastructure should be trivial
@Zalis116
@Zalis116 9 ай бұрын
Florida's terrain is a double-edged sword -- you can't build tunnels or underpasses there, because of the high water table.
@matthewshultz8762
@matthewshultz8762 9 ай бұрын
Same thing with Southern California. Some of the best climate in the country and it has been turned into a parking lot!
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 9 ай бұрын
Guns for Greens. Using guns against SUVs and oversized pickup trucks killing people and taking away cyclists' freedom would be a JUSTIFIED use of guns. This is NOT some stupid cause like antivaxxers complaining about vaccines saving millions of lives or anti-immigrant fascists complaining about migrants doing business and building a better life for themselves.
@KevinHawkshaw
@KevinHawkshaw 9 ай бұрын
trivial and even easier to justify. no arguments about the infrastructure not getting used half the year in winter.
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
Yet some people claim Florida is perfectly safe because they're blinded by politics.
@thomasthuene3173
@thomasthuene3173 9 ай бұрын
probably the best video you have made so far. kudos
@user-tz5uq2bt1s
@user-tz5uq2bt1s 4 ай бұрын
I flew into Miami in May for my sister's wedding, and my goodness am I glad I didn't rent a car. Just used ridesharing apps. I have never seen such horrendous infrastructure use and design, mixed with such aggressive and dangerous driving by the entire population.
@Nouvellecosse
@Nouvellecosse 9 ай бұрын
The "Karens" comment is particularly hilarious. A Karen is someone who is pushy and overbearing in a public setting in order to get their own way. I've never heard of someone discussing the pros and cons of their travel experiences as Karens. 😆
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
You just described the correct definition of "Karen". Way too many people incorrectly use the term as a political slur.
@S_Roach
@S_Roach 9 ай бұрын
Some people will never be able to get rid of a car, because some people will always live some distance from everything. However, living in a city should at LEAST offer you the freedom of NOT NEEDING a car.
@Gary_C
@Gary_C 9 ай бұрын
Dangerous drivers think: If I kill a pedestrian or bicyclist they'll just sue the city, my employer, or my insurance company. Can you even go to prison for disregarding like a crosswalk or bike lane and killing someone? A pedestrian and a cyclist died recently in my (small) city and I didn't hear anything in the news about anyone even being in trouble. That's the part that's a little insane to me.
@matthewshultz8762
@matthewshultz8762 9 ай бұрын
'No-fault accident' at worst, involuntary manslaughter at best. Even when the pedestrian/cyclist is completely within their govt approved crossing/lane you can't fight for yourself in court if you're fucking dead. Just 'oops another traffic accident'
@jamesodell3064
@jamesodell3064 9 ай бұрын
Carmel, Indiana, a city of about 100,000 has been replacing traffic lights with roundabouts and has greatly reduced traffic fatalities. People hate roundabouts until they get used to them so there is a lot of resistance to installing them in other cities.
@StephanieHughesDesign
@StephanieHughesDesign 9 ай бұрын
Oh The Urbanity. I could not agree with you anymore. Spot on!
@RipCityBassWorks
@RipCityBassWorks 9 ай бұрын
The US has badly needed federal regulations on vehicle size and hood shape for years now. Our dysfunctional system of government is contributing to this.
@RoCK3rAD
@RoCK3rAD 9 ай бұрын
Freedom to drive anything you want except a Japanese kei truck. The beauty of the us is you can do just about anything you want with your money.
@enchantedbananas
@enchantedbananas 9 ай бұрын
"driving is freedom and convenience" is such doublespeak
@smitajky
@smitajky 9 ай бұрын
As a cyclist and a pedestrian when I visit the USA I notice how everyone driving makes it so convenient for me.
@railroadforest30
@railroadforest30 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it can be more convenient especially in the country to drive but there are a lot of downsides especially in a urban area true freedom would be the ability to chose car or train/walking
@risu6894
@risu6894 9 ай бұрын
It really would be if it wasn't for horrible infrastructure design and commuters
@everythinggame5
@everythinggame5 9 ай бұрын
Too many people are dissing public transit for its crime when driving has similar or worse safety and you can really only do so much to make roads safe when you are a car centric city but with crime there are ways to reduce it a lot.
@LouisChang-le7xo
@LouisChang-le7xo 9 ай бұрын
they say they dont want to ride public transit with crimminals and homeless and the poor when they lobby against anything that will actually solve the problem (aka public transit and affordable housing)
@MrBirdnose
@MrBirdnose 9 ай бұрын
On the other hand, the National Guard doesn't have to be deployed to protect me when I drive...
@thisismarkbro
@thisismarkbro 9 ай бұрын
@@MrBirdnose what would the national guard do if they were deployed to protect you drive ?
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 9 ай бұрын
@@thisismarkbrosend half the population to jail for reckless driving *fg*
@Kresimir_
@Kresimir_ 9 ай бұрын
@@MrBirdnose Even if you were on the NYC subway the same day as that incident occurred, your chances of injury were still lower than driving.
@rosemarymcbride3419
@rosemarymcbride3419 9 ай бұрын
Minneapolis and by extension St. Paul always occupy a strange space in statistical comparison because unlike many other cities with similar histories they did not engage in annexations of suburbs and bedroom communities to the extent that other cities west of the Mississippi (although both cities do straddle the river). This results in Minneapolis and St. Paul being fairly far down on the list of most populous American cities when at the same time they're part of the 16th largest metro in the country.
@keystonedriving8180
@keystonedriving8180 9 ай бұрын
Just a further thought. In the UK we no longer have Road Traffic Accidents, we have Road Traffic Incidents/Collisions. The point being that these things are not Accidents, they are caused by people getting it wrong. When we get it wrong we need to accept responsibility for the outcome, regardless of whether or not it was intentional. Hiding behind the term 'accident' is essentially refusing to accept that we got it wrong. It may be a small thing, but it has been a part of changing people's attitudes.
@benjaminhigham3624
@benjaminhigham3624 9 ай бұрын
nah you’re totally justified making these criticisms. Biking in Tampa is SCARY
@cloudyskies5497
@cloudyskies5497 9 ай бұрын
My hometown is OKC, one of the cities mentioned as near the top with speed & fatalities. When I was four, we were in a car wreck that nearly killed my brother. Our family van was t-boned. That is a my first memory of being alive. I had to learn to walk again due to injuries & I had to go into childhood trauma therapy because I was having PTSD symptoms. Even as an adult, if a loud crash/bang/boom catches me off guard, my brain can still flash back to the carnage.
@davidfouts1939
@davidfouts1939 9 ай бұрын
Love this video. I work for a non-profit that promotes Vizion Zero (which is actually about ending deaths of all road users) across Texas. These kinds of arguments are super helpful when we try to convince local governments to change.
@kylerogers9965
@kylerogers9965 9 ай бұрын
going out on a limb here, but one way you might be able to quantify "driving culture" is the rates of car insurance premiums, which takes into account all accidents and car damage in their methodologies. i don't know the ins and outs or where to find the data, but when i lived in georgia people would always lament how high insurance was, and you could see why on the road. driving on sidewalks, speeding as the norm, multi-car pileups as a regular sight on your commute.
@OhTheUrbanity
@OhTheUrbanity 9 ай бұрын
Interesting point!
@bramvanduijn8086
@bramvanduijn8086 9 ай бұрын
How is only having access to a single mode of transport more free than having access to multiple modes of transport?
@DesertRat332
@DesertRat332 9 ай бұрын
We need mass transit like Europe. Get young drivers, bad drivers, and old drivers off the road.
@rederic2004
@rederic2004 9 ай бұрын
I drove in Miami once, about five years ago, and was astonished at the aggression and disregard for traffic rules there. I'm surprised the fatality figures are not higher than they are. Safer traffic infrastructure is worthless if it's simply ignored and rules not enforced.
@seaotter42
@seaotter42 9 ай бұрын
As someone who only agrees with about half of what y'all put out there, I say keep the criticism coming! It's funny that there was pushback to your Miami video of all things... pedestrian access seems like it should be critical to the Miami tourist business. Who goes to Miami beach to sit inside or in a car the whole time? There's a reason people talk about "long walks on the beach"... It doesn't snow and only has modest rain... the whole point of visiting Miami is to be outside!
@hairypotter259
@hairypotter259 9 ай бұрын
Weird for them to be mad that people are calling out that cars kill people?
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
You should host a debate against John Phillips from 790 KABC! He's the ultimate car-addicted suburbanite NIMBY, and literally celebrates the deaths of pedestrians. P.S.: notice the totally biased news headlines: "Pedestrian dies after collision with vehicle" Vs. "Drunk driver kills two other motorists"
@Arjay404
@Arjay404 9 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that New York is so safe. Probably has a lot to do with cars only being able to drive like 10mph because of how congested the roads are.
@Newbyte
@Newbyte 9 ай бұрын
Would line up with how traffic deaths went up during Covid-19 in the US overall due to less congested (st)roads.
@TommyJonesProductions
@TommyJonesProductions 9 ай бұрын
It actually has more to do with the fact that you don't HAVE to drive anywhere in NYC because there is adequate public transit and bike lanes.
@HallsofAsgard96
@HallsofAsgard96 9 ай бұрын
​@@TommyJonesProductions It's funny because both of those reasons feed into each other. Because there's so much traffic it encourages people to use transit,walk and bike
@TommyJonesProductions
@TommyJonesProductions 9 ай бұрын
@@HallsofAsgard96 - It's a shame that same mentality doesn't take hold in places like Atlanta and Los Angeles, both which have more traffic and shoddy public transit.
@seaotter42
@seaotter42 9 ай бұрын
Hard to get hit by a car when you're riding the subway... The percentage of people leveraging transit seems to be a huge indicator for the U.S. numbers... doesn't explain as much the difference between NYC and the Canadian cities though.
@frmcf
@frmcf 9 ай бұрын
For comparison, Barcelona has about 20-25 fatalities from road traffic accidents in a year.
@jonathanstensberg
@jonathanstensberg 9 ай бұрын
Step 1 is recognizing you have a problem.
@Mcfreddo
@Mcfreddo 9 ай бұрын
Those trucks should be taxed out of existence.
@pex3
@pex3 9 ай бұрын
Disturbing Death Disparity Data Drivers Dispense
@AustinSersen
@AustinSersen 9 ай бұрын
You folks really knocked it out of the park with this one. So interesting, great analysis and data, and a fresh perspective with specifics.
@Gert-DK
@Gert-DK 9 ай бұрын
Copenhagen has between 5-7 killed in traffic pr. year. About 1,5 million inhabitant.
@jbdelphiaiii7637
@jbdelphiaiii7637 9 ай бұрын
The two big statistics (as deaths per 100,000) I find being ignored are; Guns kill more people by suicide than murder or defense. You're buying yourself a toxic depression enhancer, not security. The other is that you get more deaths by instant random acts of vehicles in the suburbs than you get by random (non domestic violence) acts of violence in the city. Suburbs are actually pretty scary places in their own way, but aren't seen as that compared to lesser city street crime.
@JoshKablack
@JoshKablack 9 ай бұрын
I'm becoming ever more convinced that Bugs Bunny had it right about Florida.
@OscarLange-xl3ds
@OscarLange-xl3ds 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Important to show this data to get people to listen and understand. We can all do better if we curb externalities from driving!
@Coccinelf
@Coccinelf 9 ай бұрын
They act like you attacked them personally. Do they not know that how the city is planned and designed is not their fault? If you came here and said negative stuff about how my city is handling traffic I would say: Yes! I completely agree! It's bad! I guess maybe they felt attacked personally if they have black windows on their cars...
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 9 ай бұрын
but the shitty driving, Florida is world known for, is their fault… As are the mentioned black windows or having a raised pickup "to look more intimidating".
@Coccinelf
@Coccinelf 9 ай бұрын
@@kailahmann1823 You are totally right! I'm so used to feel completely powerless that I failed to realize they in fact choose to be dangerous.
@yovanilla
@yovanilla 3 ай бұрын
I feel like this video validates some comments I left in your other videos about how winter cycling in the US is basically too dangerous to consider
@dozenthdragon
@dozenthdragon 9 ай бұрын
Expect New Zealand's traffic fatality rate to get worse as the current government is cutting public transit projects left and right while going all-in on widening roads. We're so 20th century.
@williamhuang8309
@williamhuang8309 9 ай бұрын
And there are a lot more utes and SUVs on the roads now
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
I recently visited NZ, and unfortunately I noticed exactly what you're saying. Also lots of people drive trucks and SUVs now.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 9 ай бұрын
*I LOVE AM3RIC4NS* "Stop pointing out I live in a collapsing sh!t hole - my personality is built on the lie this is the greatest place on earth - I JUST CANT TAKE IT...!!!"
@LouisChang-le7xo
@LouisChang-le7xo 9 ай бұрын
bro cant spell americans. Also even if this is a collapsing shit hole, we can always fix it
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
Only a few crazy political extremists think Florida is the sacred cow state that's perfect. Looking at you, BlazeTV...
@SL420-
@SL420- 9 ай бұрын
American here, one huge problem that you guys partially address but likely skirt because it isn't data-driven is the dehumanization and anonymization that driving creates. Why should you care if the way you put others at risk or makes them uncomfortable? That's just another beamer or Honda. Why should you care about pedestrians? Kill or maim one and there's at least a 50/50 chance that you can get away if nobody has the mental acuity to try to get your plate number (which is becoming more and more difficult as [ILLEGAL] plate covers become more common). I have to be here until I can retire but one of my most heavily weighted considerations when it comes to where to retire is walkability.
@enjoystraveling
@enjoystraveling 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you. Drivers can definitely easily be anonymous.
@jonmcclung5597
@jonmcclung5597 9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that because these statistics have a decent amount of consistency year to year, and it's no mystery why some countries do better than others, a better term than "road accidents" is "planned road deaths". Every year that cities refuse to fix this, they are planning for a certain number of people to die who would otherwise live.
@mikeydude750
@mikeydude750 9 ай бұрын
The thing about America is that we value freedom and opportunity more than safety. We're a risk-taking culture, higher deaths are a cost of doing business if it means more productivity and getting things done. That's why we're the largest economy in the world.
@OhTheUrbanity
@OhTheUrbanity 9 ай бұрын
Interesting point but when I look at the numbers it seems like the most dangerous places are the ones that are doing worse economically (like Detroit and Memphis) while the economically dynamic cities (like New York and San Francisco) are much safer.
@vejet
@vejet 8 ай бұрын
3:19 Lol funny how this is somehow seen as something to brag about - Toronto literally has THE WORST (slowest) rush hour traffic speed in all of North America, which makes sense to me because as a Torontonian I can attest that it is indeed absolutely infuriating to drive through the city during rush hour. My drive to work should be only 10 minutes and yet it regularly turns into a 25-30 minute drive during rush hours. Then maybe I should take public transit like the TTC instead right? Yeah, except that same 10 minute non-rush hour and 25-30 minute rush hour trip to work takes OVER AN HOUR by transit since it requires a total of 3 separate routes and two transfers - a bus trip to the subway, a subway trip to the next station over and then another bus trip. And you want to know how far my commute is? 8 KM. Heck walking to work doesn't even take me that much longer, only about an hour and 40 minutes. Sure, there's no debate that walking down Miami's busy boulevards and 'strods' are dangerous, and their transit network is even worse still, though lets not act like Toronto's network is some golden gem for all the world to envy though - an hour long transit commute to go 8km is laughable. That's why I AVIOD THEM when I visit Miami and stick to walking along the seaside boardwalks and smaller side streets.
@kookamunga2458
@kookamunga2458 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the car-brain mentality is all over North America and every year there are ever increasing car sales and increasing city populations without any new land and vehicles are getting larger and people are driving faster than before .It's hell here for pedestrians and cyclists.
@barrysteven5964
@barrysteven5964 9 ай бұрын
For further perspective - The population of Miami Dade is 2.6 million. The annual death rate on the roads was 358. The population of Greater London is 9 million. The annual death rate on the roads was 102.
@JJ-ds5fs
@JJ-ds5fs 9 ай бұрын
Anyone who has lived in a city with good public transit can see that the whole "driving is freedom" viewpoint doesn't make sense. Real freedom means you can leave your front door and go and do things without needing a giant hunk of metal that costs tens of thousands of dollars.
@RoCK3rAD
@RoCK3rAD 9 ай бұрын
I’m from nyc grew up with no cars in my household but I agree and disagree with this. We were essentially trapped within the city most of the year except for the rare flights to go visit family down south while my cousins all have great road trip memories to various places around the country. I appreciated having the independence as a teen to get around town but after moving to Vegas I love having a car
@Mcfreddo
@Mcfreddo 9 ай бұрын
Miami has also been called hideous n tacky.
@CMDRMedievall
@CMDRMedievall 9 ай бұрын
We have a mental health issue above all else, people started driving even worse when the government made things worse with Covid nonsense. People are genuinely more manic now than ever, they can stand to what for anything anywhere, they're all high strung, everything in their life has become more expensive, life has become harder. We have about the same number of children killed by drunk drivers annually as have been killed by school shootings over 120 years combined, but which one do you hear about on the news more passionately?
@AcuraLvR82
@AcuraLvR82 9 ай бұрын
A lot of it comes down to just a few simple factors: Americans have enormous vehicles and an overwhelming percentage of low skill drivers. Its a culture that promotes material excess and selfish individuality which manifests itself in the country's driving culture.
@atavanH
@atavanH 9 ай бұрын
8:10 yeah people are always surprised how car centric New Zealand is.
@NATESOR
@NATESOR 9 ай бұрын
Boeing was in the news the other day and I mentioned to my dad that we lose 16 737 MAX's worth of people every single day to car violence. And it's just interesting that everyone is losing their minds over airline safety right now. Imagine if 16 full airliners were crashing and killing everyone on board every single day. And he said, "But a lot of those people are bad drivers." It was an interesting reaction...
@cindyeisenberg3273
@cindyeisenberg3273 9 ай бұрын
I had to walk, because my car was in the shop. I could have been invisible at the stop walk. If I didn’t watch for this, I could have been hit at least 10 times. Our cities and suburbs are very car centric and pedestrians have to cross stroads that are basically 6-9 lanes and there’s not enough time to get across, because you have to wait for the not yielding cars that don’t stop at the cross walk at the red, when the walk sign is on. Also, cars are breezing past at 10-20 miles over the 45 mph speed limit. I won’t be giving up the car, unless the roads are changed. Even, driving here is dangerous. I would never have learned to drive if the traffic was that bad. We also had smaller roads that I could drive, until I was more comfortable around the car.
@briandavis8629
@briandavis8629 9 ай бұрын
Never stop complaining about safety. If stop it will never get better.
@pinoygal6232
@pinoygal6232 9 ай бұрын
You guys should do a video on Honolulu Hawaii, It's terrible for pedestrians and cyclists.
@ianhomerpura8937
@ianhomerpura8937 9 ай бұрын
Which is why I don't get why crazy politicians like Cayetano have opposed building the railways for decades.
@OhTheUrbanity
@OhTheUrbanity 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we've never been there, but if you know of an organization that wants to sponsor a trip, we'd be happy to go!
@MrAronymous
@MrAronymous 9 ай бұрын
As a European who only used to know the bare minimum about Hawaii that we saw in media; waves, surfing, beaches, tiki, houses on stilts, vulcanos.. seeing images of what Honolulu was actually like for the first time was truly disppointing. They had an island that is described as paradise and made it into your average US car-overloaded suburb with stroads and strip malls. Insanity.
@crowmob-yo6ry
@crowmob-yo6ry 9 ай бұрын
I blame the evil tyrant Pavos Prevedorous.
@ianhomerpura8937
@ianhomerpura8937 9 ай бұрын
@@crowmob-yo6ry I don't get why he was that motivated to push against any type of railway in Hawaii back then
@keystonedriving8180
@keystonedriving8180 9 ай бұрын
It's also sobering to realise that road fatalities in Miami are equivalent to about a fifth of those for the entire United Kingdom (population 65 million).
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