Oilers fans have lost it

[@EckHockey]

Sorry.

[@unknownentity222]

It's kind of shitty what lead to the suspension, not gonna lie, but It's a deserved suspension.

[@andrewcanoy1708]

You should be. Bad dog.

[@drewkirk9894]

So you saw the tyler myers cross check and agree it is the same as mcdavids? Now that is ludicrous

[@d2c341]

What did Crosby get for taking off Method's finger again?

[@relaxingnoise7876]

such a brain dead take, Soucy can cross-check McDavid in the face and get suspended for 1 game but when McDavid defends himself from a midget trying to grapple him he gets a 3 game suspension, people aren't mad at the suspension they're mad at the length of the suspension, people pay in advance to watch mcdavid

[@svfin]

Hockey fans complain when stars get special treatment and then they complain when stars don't get special treatment.

[@heythereitsRBK2]

They only complain when stars get special treatment if said star isn't on their team.

[@rcahill5141]

Oiler fans not hockey fans

[@theoilersadvocate3130]

Myers had two prior suspensions, while McDavid had only one. The cross-checks might be considered equally unacceptable, but if the league claims to be taking into account past instances, then logically Myers should have more games taken away, or McDavid less. There's nothing special about making sense and having consistency.

[@Makar00008]

@@theoilersadvocate3130 A Player is considered a repeat offender for 18 months following his most recent incident that resulted in a suspension. Myers last suspension was 2019 which was six years ago people always get the repeat offender thing wrong.

[@krakenspectacor]

@@theoilersadvocate3130 that’s not what that means chief

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

Both deserved suspensions, anyone saying otherwise is an idiot! You can’t just cross check ppl in the face and expect nothing to happen!

[@macswallace2109]

I donno if it hit garland in the head or face, but either way it shouldn’t have happened

[@DDWyss]

But based on league precedent, it shouldn't have been 3 games. Even though ignoring how terrible the NHL is at fairly and consistently handing out suspensions, a 3 game suspension was probably perfectly appropriate. But that's the thing, we can't pretend this suspension exists in a bell jar and ignore all the other players who either got far more lenient suspensions or no suspension at all for the exact same thing. That's the real problem.

[@JHsillypantsMcGee]

Thats not why we're upset - we are upset because the refs are managing the game like its fake wrestling they aren't actually calling penalties and letting them play by the rules. Garland admitted this!

[@TOKEK1ng]

It really doesn't seem that's the case. I actually haven't seen one single person on any channel that doesn't think they both deserved suspensions. People are unhappy about the lengths and the difference in circumstances.

[@DC-yl4vc]

@@JHsillypantsMcGee Oilers had the puck...what did you want exactly? a whistle?

[@hoozoohleague8264]

What bothers me about this is the REFS messed up and it cost big time to: -the Oilers -the Canucks -the fans -the game itself because it wasn't over yet when the whistle should have been blown And it cost the refs absolutely nothing as usual. Edit: Greer got only ONE game for a crosscheck that required 25stitches to Mike Hoffman in march 2023. Half of which were inside the mouth. He fed Hoffman his stick ffs 😂 They just spin the wheel when it comes to punishments

[@Mike-l7y5y]

"They just spin the wheel when it comes to punishments" Then the wheel will land properly in the playoffs. Either a Canadian team wins the Cup OR either Florida or Tampa Bay doesn't win it. Final verdict. The only way to avoid mutiny is if any of the other 23 teams wins it all, so that's removing all 7 Canadian teams plus the 2 Florida state teams. You know why. The refs obviously. And Bettman. The sunny days of Florida are over, Bettman. Good luck with your Utah honeymoon.

[@JayDeeMC]

OIlers fan here. Yes, I agree with the suspension. What I'm not happy about is the officiating. McDavid should be penalized when he breaks the rules, but so should everyone else. Be consistent!

[@jameson1239]

That’s absolutely fair there were a ton of missed calls on both sides that game the refs lost control of the game completely

[@betsyjohnson9699]

Precisely

[@twillison8824]

Agreed. That said, I hope Garland gets his shite kicked in tonight.

[@howabouturinalcakes]

HERESY! Get out of here with your reasoned, objective, adult thinking!

[@stewartcombs6116]

Refs should be suspended too.

[@ColdHardToronto]

Yep

[@RockiePlayzer]

No Your just mad

[@ColdHardToronto]

@RockiePlayzer are you trying to spell "you're"?

[@thomasflorek1010]

As an Oilers fan, and a BIG McDavid fan. He deserved a suspension. 3 games? Maybe not. A game 2 games sure. A lot of people at fault for actually letting it to that point but either way inexcusable on McDavid.

[@tej.19]

That's exactly how I felt. oilers fans acting like it's completely insane and crying makes us all look bad.

[@tamatb]

Nope, you are wrong! We should ban him for 10 games! That'll show the rest of the NHL players that WWE is fine, cross-check to the head is not. 👍👍

[@DeathAngelOfDeath]

McDavid is a recidivist. Not the first time, he did this. 3 games is like a minimum.

[@skylararsenault3443]

​@@DeathAngelOfDeath Oilers are my biggest enemy but he did not deserve 3 games

[@dustinberends7082]

Canucks fan here - fully agree with this sentiment. I think both players should have had 1-2 games considering the past has shown that's what a crosscheck to the face is worth, including for star players (e.g., matthews).

[@Tomahulk]

The funniest thing to me is that everyone is also so mad about why the play didn't get whistled dead for the holding penalty. Even IF the refs had called the penalty, it would've been played out as a delayed penalty because the oilers had possession. The other option the refs had would have been to blow the play dead after McDavid punched Garland in the face in the middle of the wrestling match, where the best call on the ice would be roughing on BOTH players, so the oilers wouldn't even get a 6-on-4 advantage for the remaining 10-15 seconds (it would be either 5-on-4 or 6-on-5).

[@Bullshirt1983]

Gosh, how many idiot Vancouver fans are going to repeat this moronic take? Put the hand up after the initial hold, Oilers choose if they want to give up possession or not. They could have easily called the penalty 3 seconds into the first old and nothing else happens. How can people who are watching a hockey video be so clueless about hockey.

[@obi-wankenobigoat]

Smartest Canuck fan ☠️

[@zzii0327]

Even IF? The point is they didn't call it.

[@Schelby14]

Mcdavid protected himself. If you've ever played any sport competitively, it would happen..

[@caseydavis8434]

They are garage. Oilers are equivalent to the KC chiefs

[@davidzimmerman3778]

The refs from that game should get a 3 game suspension

[@jtank1174]

Facts

[@pite9]

Suspended for the rest of the season, for blatantly ignoring the rulebook.

[@Paroseni.]

For what though

[@jakubondrus]

@@Paroseni. For letting that canucks player hold McDavid like a fucking koala holds a tree and not calling it?

[@nikheelsivarajan6847]

@@Paroseni. for letting the play escalate? Are you blind?

[@nickh4354]

The refs messsed up, McDavid messed up, the Vancouver goon messed up, the oilers organization messed up, and the twitter people messed up (shock and awe) surprisingly the league actually didn't mess up on the suspension here. It's just the consistency of the calls and the abysmal performance by the refs are getting a spotlight, and thats why people hate the league.

[@janzkee]

calling a 5'8 dude a goon is hilarious. youre saying mcdavid cant outmuscle a 5'8 170lb man cleanly. absolutely hilarious

[@bsmith1164]

@@janzkee 5' 7" 165lbs !!

[@maxrhodes007]

Garland is barely a pest nowhere near a goon.

[@notstonks20]

@@maxrhodes007 oh no, he's absolutely a pest, just not a goon

[@Kenny_Mars]

Try curling.

[@zzii0327]

I do not think that fans were upset with the suspension. They were upset because it took many cases with very minimum punishment to this point, which they decided make McDavid case as an example to warn the league

[@iaintnomanstealer]

I dont think any educated Oiler or hockey fan in general is upset he got suspended for crosschecking a guy in the face...I feel like maybe 3 games is a bit excessive but thats besides the point. I feel most fans are upset with the officiating as you pointed out. Obviously the forward with the most time on ice since 2015 is probably going to draw the most calls but do you think he honestly should be 241st per 60 on ice for penalty calls for? Or Mackinnon should be 150th? I feel like what alot of people here watching this situation unfold are failing to grasp is the fact that this is not just a Connor Mcdavid issue. This is a league wide issue against all teams superstars.

[@macswallace2109]

Phil?

[@Zulizu17]

Youre right…educated fans get it. Too bad only 10% of people are educated.

[@LARGO125]

We lost Bossy because refs wouldnt call penalties. We lost Lemieux because of cancer and recurring injuries when refs wouldnt call penalties. Do i need to bring up Paul Kariya. We lost what? A 1/3 of Sidney Crosby's career due to concussions. How much time has McKinnon spent on the IR? Mcdavid literally lost half his rookie season and a Calder trophy because he got gooned. When is the NHL going to wake up to this. Mcdavid reacted because he's sick of it. And other NHL stars past AND present seem to be agreeing with him while staying inside the lines of NHLPA's media policy.

[@Linny14]

@@LARGO125 Great take! Well said! Times have changed but I root for the oilers and he should have gotten a suspension 3 is excessive imo but hey 🤷‍♂️

[@ryans413]

I don’t agree with what McDavid did but I can understand it because the refs can’t do there jobs and be consistent. McDavid deserves the suspension not 3 games though thats ridiculous.

[@matturner6890]

Connor Garland isn't a goon lol, he's a pest if anything. Guy doesn't have the size for goonery. He's also one of my fav members on the roster, he's got character. McDavid on the other hand is miserable to watch when he's not scoring because *he* always looks miserable. His reaction kinda proves this. Grumpy dude. Three games to both Myers and McDavid is perfectly reasonable, they really ought to crack down on what amounts to assault with a weapon in regular life. I'd certainly get more than three days in jail for whacking someone in the face with a stick just because I was mad.

[@leerotten]

I get it it man and definitely agree what you say about great players losing games or their game due to the injuries. Aside from this being a three game suspension or what it should have been... Garland should have been called quite instantly for holding since it was blatantly obvious, CM got frusturated which I totally get as well as anyone here. Still... Maybe not cross check the guy to the face? Like the most just give a wicked slash that hurts and leaves a mark but unlikely to injure. Using stick as a skull probe should always be a suspension. And yep. I agree. There seems to be no consistency of what and when these suspensions come and that's infuriating.

[@TOKEK1ng]

​​@@matturner6890 But you wouldn't get any jail time if you hit someone in the face with a stick AFTER they pushed you over, sprawled all over you and wouldn't let you up. And it was all caught on camera. That's called mitigating circumstances. And reasonable force.

[@waynemilligan6649]

McDavid didn't crosscheck Garland "in the face". He hit him in the side of the helmet. Last year the Canuck's Soucy crosschecked McDavid right in the face and got a 1 game suspension. Oilers fans are pissed off because: the NHL doesn't protect their star players from the constant mauling; repeatedly fails to call obvious penalties; inconsistently applies suspensions; engages in "game management" by officials. Instead of promoting their highly-skilled stars, they're turning hockey into Stampede Wrestling.

[@adinsplug8954]

Nobody is mad about the suspension. How a guy can hold another guy down for the final 30 seconds of a game and not get penalized is why we are confused. How Soucy can crosscheck mcdavid in the throat and get one game but this is 3? It’s more about officiating and DOPS

[@chucknorris172]

Bingo.

[@saschaganser9671]

In the same scene: MCD is crosschecking a guy who was all over him for 20 sec. while the game is running. Suspension worthy for sure. Myers is crosschecking a guy who was not involved after the game is over. How can it be the same 3 games?

[@masterferguson8703]

Exaggerate much? Holy fuck lol..QQ

[@masterferguson8703]

If you can't see then you are fuckin blind.

[@jayvyas1677]

playoffs games are way more valuable than a regular season game. What are the implications if McDavid misses these games? Oh u get to see McDavid 3 times less this year. The playoff games can change a season. what a dumb take.

[@Olter_]

When the refs do nothing, players fight.

[@amanasd26]

The problem is not that he was suspended, it's the league being inconsistent with suspension length for the exact same degree of infractions, today's its 3 games, tomorrow it's one and then in the playoffs it's nothing.

[@GalxyLyrics]

think oilers fans are annoyed about the fact that the NHL is very inconsistent with the number of games players get suspended for due to crosschecking to the face. Mcdavid should definitely have gotten suspended but only for 1 or 2 based on past suspensions to other players. The part about the 4 nations stuff is super dumb though

[@kylemeridith9611]

matthews got 3 for his cross check to the head also. so no. ur wrong its consistent. he got what he deserved

[@sinodanotsnhoj625]

if this was true they are still making it about themselves lmao

[@Leroy-df3ee]

But Meyers should have gotten 3 though.

[@Sebastian-tm6ud]

@@kylemeridith9611 it was 2 games. Google it next time doughnut

[@Eleutherios1]

No.. he should have been suspended last week and still sitting out.. like the guy he elbowed in the head who is still on the IR and might have life long concussion issues. Oh.. let me guess.. he was 'frustrated' when he skated by that guy and elbowed him. Mcdavid is a BABY and one of the dirtiest players in the league who constantly gets special treatment from DOPS and the refs.

[@sonnytuwun7704]

Worst part was the officiating. They should have called holding way sooner. The fact that nobody is focusing on the horrible officiating during that game is what frustrates me.

[@sinodanotsnhoj625]

oh yea because thats the only game ever where officiating was bad in the eyes of the fans

[@mahockey3]

​@@sinodanotsnhoj625 nice strawman

[@Leroy-df3ee]

So, if the officiating is bad then it's fine to crosscheck someone in the face. Got it.

[@sean7885]

@@sinodanotsnhoj625 No one's saying that though? The point is that McDavid was being held for a solid 5-10 seconds before the cross check and the refs did nothing. He deserves the suspension, but it should've never got to that point

[@AEGIPAN101]

@@sinodanotsnhoj625 It wasn't bad in the eyes of the fans. It was bad in the eyes of EVERYONE. He got held for 13 seconds with no whistle.

[@peytonmussetter743]

The amount of oil fans that freaked out over me saying that maybe McDavid shouldn’t cross check someone in the face if he doesn’t want to get suspended was insane. I had people telling me that I should get cross checked or that I don’t know puck. Oil fans try not to be extremely hostile over the rules challenge smh.

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

Shows how ignorant they truly are, they put McDavid up on a pedestal!

[@FullOrange_]

@@daveg-Vancouver_Islandunlike me, who puts Quinn Hughes up on a pedestal! I am superior in every way!

[@PhoenixRiseinFlame]

First time? Edmonton fans have always been like this.

[@Eugromlol]

Why listen or interact to the trash fans on KZbin comments or even reddit most of them have shit takes to go with their shit attitude.

[@canadiangamer6210]

@@FullOrange_ Myers got suspended rightfully so, same with Mcdavid. idk what this has to do with Hughes... other then they are both captains and point leaders for their teams? but i would hope hughes would never cross check someone in the head being a captain/leader and if he did id like him to be suspended for child like behavior like myers and mcdavid... cant be teaching kids its 'ok' as long as you are a point leader

[@TheMegalodonGaming]

Not a McDavid fan even slightly i really don't care about the oilers. but his reaction was not over the top Imo. He has somebody holding him down and laying on top of him in a really important time of the game. He made a dirty hit out of frustration. He knows what he did deserves punishment and i bet if he could go back he'd do it again. His actions are pretty easy to justify but so is the punishment

[@747Cone]

No Oilers fans I know are upset about the suspension, and neither is McDavid as we heard. They're upset that penalties are not called when players obstruct and/or foul McDavid such as Garland and Kempe slewfoot in the game earlier. It's always been this way. From Mario complaining about the hooking and holding to Crosby to McDavid. The NHL allows this to occur and the Oilers fans are frustrated with it. The NHL won't change anything about this though. Its just the Oilers fans venting. McDavid 197th in penalties/60 min this year. Similar stats on MacKinnnon and Draisaitl. It's like, the top players are too good so we gotta allow some hooking.

[@krakenspectacor]

@@747Cone McDavid gets away with shit all the time my guy. Need to take those blinders off

[@pirtatejoe]

This has always been an issue in the NHL. Wake up Edmonton... this isn't new. I am from Pittsburgh. Mario Lemieux RETIRED because of the abuse he had to take on the ice. Sidney Crosby lost a year and a half of his career due to a blind side cheap shot elbow to the head. What response did he get? Fans in places like Edmonton calling him Cindy Crysby. And now that it is McJesus, everyone is supposed to care? He's gotten treated better than any superstar in my lifetime. And, let's not rewrite history on the play in question... McJesus plays the puck, then lunges forward with an elbow to interfere with Garland. They fall down and Garland is mad and grabs onto him. McJesus then punches him in the back of the head. Garland grabs him, like "hey dude wtf" and eats a crosscheck because of it.

[@DustOnTheGround01]

@@krakenspectacor so does everyone else tho?? if they called everything the game would be stupid. Its about key moments that shape the outcome of the game

[@krakenspectacor]

@@DustOnTheGround01 he gets away with suspension level plays. Oilers fans really are delusional

[@ianhogaboam2322]

​@@krakenspectacor I mean Jordan Eberle broke a guys neck and didn't even get a suspension lol

[@ballball1129]

if the refs would have called the penalty for holding, it would not have happened, fine the refs.

[@DC-yl4vc]

derp, the Oilers had the puck...the game would have ended exactly the same way

[@Hybridanvil]

As an oilers fan, the issue I have is treating the Myres crosscheck and the Mcdavid crosscheck evenly. For Mcdavids, there were 18 seconds of being held in place and tackled before he, in frustration with the refs who caused this to happen, crosschecked the guy, taking things into his own hands. Bad, he deserved a suspension. But to give him exactly the same as Myres is ludicrous. The dude went up to Bouchard, unprompted, and decked him in the face. Bouch did nothing and got a face full of stick. He should've at least gotten +2 on top of what Mcdavid got for that. The other issue is what is the punishment for crosschecking to the face? It's changed from 2 games to 1 playoff game to 1 game to 3 games. I wish there was consistently. Lastly, Garland literally said in post verbatim "Hes the best player in the world, so the beat strategy to win I decided was to cheat." Is that really the precedent we want to set? That if its the dying second of the game, a penalty doesn’t matter, so you should just cheat your way to victory? What if this was game 7 of a series? I dont know, just some things to think about.

[@Themapleleaforever]

Myers should’ve got another game or 2

[@kokumcarrie1343]

Facts ! Completely agree with you

[@leowiebe2023]

About Garland, it's not really cheating, it's just like taking any other penalty. If it was the dying seconds of a game 7 and this happens what will the refs do? Put a couple minutes back on the clock and let the Oilers have a full power play? I get you're frustration but Garland didn't do anything dangerous, he just took a smart penalty with a few seconds left in the game. You do what you got to do to win.

[@daboyo6]

as a canucks fan, both needed to be suspended. myers always makes boneheaded decisions and that came back to bite him. however the amount of canucks fans defending myers is waaaaay less than oilers fan defending mcdavid. you dont cross check a guy in the head. period. it doesnt matter what the name or number is on his jersey anyone who does that deserves a suspension and the narrative that the nhl should protect their start layers is absurd. hold people accountable for their actions no matter what

[@saschaganser9671]

Yeah but Myers action is 2x worse than MCDs.

[@hemanownsyou]

@@saschaganser9671 No, it isn't. How the hell do you figure one cross-check to the head is not as bad as another cross-check tot he head?

[@Talkative_Introvert123]

@@hemanownsyoubecause the first was after being held for 30 seconds with no call and the second was to a guy who was just standing there doing nothing

[@saschaganser9671]

@ As you look at the situation as a whole? Are you serious, every play is analyzed by it`s intensity and situation. If 2 players battle for half a minute, it`s just different than mowing down a not involved guy in retaliation after the game, which makes it automatically worse. Are you 7 years old, or did you really watch sports all you life never noticing it?

[@hemanownsyou]

@ The only one who is seven is you. Holding someone is not a justification for hitting someone in the head. Also, DOUCHEard wasn't some innocent bystander. He took a good whack at Myers, then Myers cross-checked him.

[@someguy035]

"The Canucks organization is disappointed and we share in our fans' frustration over the three-game suspension of our defenseman, Tyler Myers. We support him through this process and the organization and our fans look forward to having him back in the lineup vs. Blues next week."

[@SteveSperandeo]

Thanks!

[@mikew6765]

3 games was the proper suspension for the crosscheck. That said, there is no way McDavid would have got any games (probably just a fine) had Myers not done the exact same thing at the same point in the game. The NHL was painted into a corner. Myers doesn't rate "star" treatment so they had to suspend both.

[@Leroy-df3ee]

Probably right.

[@TheJackFrench]

Absolutely. And I love Myers for forcing the NHL's hand and suspending McBaby.

[@hoozoohleague8264]

AJ Greer got ONE game for a deliberate crosscheck to Mike Hoffman. 25stitches. Half of them inside the mouth. That was in March 2023, don't tell me "it was a different era". They just spin the wheel on these suspensions it's ridiculous

[@Linny14]

Oilers fan here mcdavid deserved that suspension. Also as a ref the refs needed to do their job to not let it get there in the first place!

[@rdalton49]

YES! Well said. Two things can be correct at the same time.

[@ryans413]

I’m tired of the excuses the refs can’t see it all it’s a fast game. If the fans can see it and I can see it on my tv the refs can see it. It’s just lazy officiating

[@Linny14]

@@ryans413 💯

[@Kjell777Iverson]

Oiler fan here. I haven't seen a single Oilers fan suggest that McDavid didn't deserve a suspension. I've seen some suggest that 3 games was one game too long, but the discourse is more about the ridiculous holding by Garland that preceded the cross check and how it wasn't called. I thought McDavid would get 2 or 3 games, and I'm fine with it. My question is: When is the league going to do something about the lack of consistency in officiating? This isn't just an issue that affects the Oilers.

[@Felale]

McDavid should’ve been suspended for the elbow that injured Johansson.

[@saschaganser9671]

Which elbow? Have you seen it? Even in slow mo you can`t see any elbow

[@KidNeyCORE]

​@@saschaganser9671was an obvious dive

[@JP-Edm]

Yeah, McDavid doesn't get calls. He didn't get called for a high stick that left Hughes bloody last year.

[@tonyrae86]

There's always calls that get missed in any game, but the stats alone on McDavid's penalties against show that he is getting anything but special treatment.

[@donaldramsey6222]

Mcdavid has been doing this stuff all season and FINALLY gets called. last game, he elbowed a guy in the face, no penalty called, no discipline. he crosschecked a florida player in the head back in December and nothing. apparently he cant control his anger and it finally cost him.

[@oscargoldman4867]

He can't. Didn't you see his little screamy hissy fit from last years playoffs?

[@benoitrobitaille5235]

Hockey fans keep forgetting, there is no such thing as officiating in the NHL … it is game management. How each games are called depends on who’s the refs, what the league want to crack down this particular season, if it’s extremely obvious or not, if it’s an “automatic call”, if its close to the end of the game or not, who’s leading, sometimes the # of penalties on each side is considered, make up calls. If it’s the playoffs magically there is a new rulebook spawning for the exact same sport. Somehow, they can call both tripping and diving on the same play …. PICK ONE. If you are in front of the net apparently cross checking is perfectly legal, doubly if you are a rat of the Gallagher/Marchand variety. “Finishing your check” is also complete BS and contradicts the interference rule directly.

[@DC-yl4vc]

Oilers already had the PP and control of the puck

[@fishleaf18]

Not an Oilers fan but can we all agree that Wes McCauley is one of the worst referees in the NHL? At the end you said hold McDavid and take the penalty... i think thats where the frustration comes from with Oilers fans, Wes DID NOT call a penalty

[@Kirk-i3u]

He had enough of refs not calling penalties. 10 years of abuse with no Semenko to protect him.

[@wyattobyrne1535]

Edmonton fans can definitely be extreme at times, especially when McDavid is involved. I'm an Edmonton fan and think the suspension length is fine. The NHL could have gone way harder on them just to send a message that they aren't playing around when it comes to this stuff. Both teams are lucky that no one was injured from these cross checks. I also think the health of the game is at jeopardy if the league keeps allowing for non hockey plays to take players out of the game. Holding any player for 15 seconds with no call is crazy, superstar or not. This is why soccer players take a dive when anything happens to them. We really don't need the same happening in the NHL.

[@matthewanderson9754]

Mcdavid couldn't have scored, Garland would've covered him like a leech on blood, but I'm very glad your willing to say superstars like mcdavid should be punished the same as everyone else, cause everytime i say it i get sh*t on. And it's not the first time he's done such things!!!

[@mythicrampage9909]

So why did he hold him ? If he could cover him like a leach on blood? think about your comment before you write it !

[@danielmurdock3086]

Call the penalty....If it is a penalty in the first minute it should be a penalty in the final....Subjective officiating is the ruin of this league....Changing officiating standards as games or in the playoffs is ridiculous . Hockey was created in a pond and cteativity and skill should be free in display....Not big boy hockey where players just dump it in grab and hold

[@danielmurdock3086]

Rather watch McDavid than some bunch of fourth liners that clutches and grabs....Boring hockey.....

[@Skynertia]

The "refs need to do better, but you still cant retaliate" comments have been going on since Bobby Orr's rookie season. The day that happens is the day I'll care about star players retaliating. Canucks fans who had to watch Bure's career get cut short should understand exactly why Oilers fans, just like Penguins fans of the last decade are going and went insane. At the end of the day as much as people say they care about calling the rule book, they really dont. They care about the refs calling the rule book when their team gets penalized, but when your team doesnt have game breaking talent the rulebook is just a detriment to you.

[@violator9151]

Both McDavid and Myers were held accountable. How about we have some transparent way that the refs are held accountable when they suck at their jobs?

[@Schelby14]

He made a bad decision. He got what deserved. You don't have bad take. Coming from a lifelong fan...

[@jankem4dakidz]

We aren’t talking about protecting the star players. The conversation is the that the league has decided that McDavid doesn’t get to draw penalties this year. He just got slew foot by Kempe with no call and all this could’ve been avoided if the refs just called a penalty on Garland for his blatant hold. Refs need to just call the rule book

[@TechTokOffical]

Crosby nearly has his career ended on MULTIPLE occasions and never took anything more than a 5 minute major after dropping the gloves. He was the literal punching bag of the league for the better part of 10 years and got his revenge on the score sheet. Now he is undoubtedly one of the most respected players in the league. Seriously, when u can have the fans in philly sayin "man I HATE crosby more than any player ever, but I can't help but respect him

[@stewartholland1399]

you are looking at this far too shallow. You are quoting a stat from 2016 to current, but this year, the oilers are 26th in the league in number of powerplays. McDavid personally is 197th in the league in drawn penalties. That's laughable with the way he is harassed. This is wrong, and leads to overreactions. As others have said, this is different than the other leagues which worked to protect their stars. What would you rather see? Stars clutched and grabbed, or stars scoring? Last year they had a lot more powerplays, but they also scored at a historic rate, and the talking heads were all talking about how much of an advantage it gave them. Leagues got to figure out what it wants. Teams comments aren't just about the suspension, they're drawing attention to the deeper issue.

[@poomskins]

Exactly!! Thank you

[@dustinberends7082]

McDavid getting away with high sticking and elbowing left and right is also laughable, but missed calls is the way the game goes :)

[@CanadianBoardCrew]

The 3 game suspension is crazy. Especially given this context

[@amsf1]

You can't expect illogical fans like Oilers and Chiefs fans to be logical.... And I'm not biased just because I'm a Panthers fan whose happy the cats are still running on a full tank of McDavids tears....

[@cornz_7708]

Are we just ignoring the spear on Hornek's throat lmao

[@lduff155]

Im a calgary fan that hates the Oilers and their fan base. However, I am siding with the Oilers fans on this. Its less about what McDavid did and more about the lead up to it and how it was dealt with. Oilers fans, we hate your guys guts but that doesnt mean you arent right.

[@hottuna2006]

Complain all you want about the reffing and what led up to McDavid's crosscheck to the face. NEVER condone or excuse away a player's attempt to seriously injure a fellow hockey player because he was "frustrated".

[@Phoenixmason10]

Calgary still against there old rivals in Vancouver

[@Leroy-df3ee]

They aren't right.

[@Trigger200284]

@@hottuna2006 this is a case of FAAFO. Bet you he’ll think twice next time he wants to be a grease soaked weasel. The alternative and “acceptable” method would have been a fist fight with a goon… yeah that’s soooo much better. Your knuckles look pretty raw from dragging…

[@Trigger200284]

@ they’re right.

[@lonnieschlenker5206]

The issue with it being three games is that when Mcdavid was crosschecked in the face during the playoffs, Soucy only received 1 game

[@MagicMoose18]

It should be a penalty shot if this is to occur again, but this is a similar situation to what shaq used to be in where they would foul him to prevent him from scoring.

[@mitchguerette]

McDavid obviously can’t do that, but there's no consistency to the calls, remember that brutal crosscheck to the face McDavid took from Carson Soucy in the playoffs against Vancouver last year? how many games do you think that was? the answer is 1 and that was a far more violent crosscheck than the one on Garland. I agree with the suspention but the leauge needs to set things straight. Is a crosscheck to the head a 1 game suspention or 3? the reason everyones mad is cause its always a guessing game, ya never know what it’s gonna be.

[@CalculatedRiskAK]

Playoff suspensions are generally much shorter than regular season suspensions as they're more impactful to the outcome. It's not some new thing. It's a historical trend.

[@holycommunists9159]

Playoff games are worth 2-3 regular season games, always have been.

[@hemanownsyou]

Remember when McDavid blatantly elbowed a player in the head and got nothing for it. Stop crying.

[@Avnika6]

playoff suspensions games are usually less and if you actually watched the video the DOPS sent out they quote on quote say they acknowledge zadorov pushed mcdavid down causing soucy to check him in the head when it wasnt intended

[@mitchguerette]

@ honestly didn’t think about, that so true I take it back

[@RosciusB]

As an Oilers fan and an absolute glazer for McDavid, I completely agree. The amount of family and friends that are baffled and have actual anger towards the suspension (and no, not the missed calls) is ridiculous to me. If you are cross checking somebody in the neck, no matter how much of a rat that player is, you deserve to be suspended. As soon as it happened I HOPED he would be suspended so as to make an example of the league's golden boy, glad it did.

[@devinabbottsvolgs7993]

We as oilers fans aren’t saying he shouldn’t be suspended, we are saying call the game and call the game by the rule book.

[@timothyletwin5911]

This just showed how the nhl does not give an F! about the fans. It's the worst pro team league in the North America. Just the fact that there are more NHL teams than the NBA, NFL, OR MLB proves it. It's the least popular sport of these leagues. Money in the governors pockets, and a watered down product.

[@tonyrae86]

Remember that what people post on the internet doesn't necessarily reflect what a majority of fans actually think and feel... I live in Edmonton and have talked to dozens of people about this call and the general consensus from everyone has been the same: McDavid shouldn't have done what he did and deserved a fair punishment for his choice, but also, the refs should've blown the whistle after the first time he got up and was re-tackled to the ice by Garland. A penalty is a penalty no matter when in the game it takes place, it was weak for the refs to defend their choice to ignore it by saying "well Edmonton had possession and if we'd blown the play dead and then they got a goal, everyone would be mad." What kind of way is that to think? Player safety should come first and without consistency in how rules are enforced, people get frustrated and make bad choices.... No matter what level of hockey you're playing.

[@girhen]

McDavid chicken winged one game and crosschecked a guy in the face a few later. Possibly a consideration. I've seen some people were pointing at Soucy only getting 1 game for cross checking McD and crying foul, but playoff hockey has different rules and punishments than regular season. Ask Draisaitl and Barkov. And, honestly, it looked like Soucy wanted McD's chest, but McD was knocked down as he also pushed Soucy's stick upward.

[@ZenithLegend]

Conor Garland should have been the one suspend for 300 games instead.

[@KazDave]

300? What a brilliant and well-developed analysis. Now go pout in the corner while adults discuss this,

[@chrisdemeule3777]

As an oilers fan - this really shocked me. Me and my buddies all think a two game suspension would have been adequate but not one of us was up in arms about three games. I wonder if all the noise is a minority of Oilers fans making wave…. I just don’t see it in my circles.

[@nrXic]

My only complaint is that Garland didn't get a suspension for trying to crosscheck McDavid first and hitting him right on the chin. McDavid's hands are so quick that his crosscheck landed first.

[@droogiesouls8635]

Oilers fans already lost it last summer when they said "they deserved to win the Cup more than Florida".

[@bengaunt7475]

I’m an oilers fan, my room is adorned with jerseys and posters, other memorabilia, it was a totally fine suspension. Anyone who says it isn’t needs to realize that he is a player and despite being my favorite/I think the best he is a player. He needs to be dealt with like everyone else.

[@piusclay]

I only am upset that Myers did not get a more severe penalty for his crosscheck. It was entirely unprovoked, and you pointed out in the last video how Myers watched the Oilers player remove his mouth guard before the crosscheck to the face. That, in my opinion, deserves more recourse than for a retaliatory offense.

[@rockthered8706]

I agree completely, I’m an oilers fan too. 3 games is acceptable. 2pts are not that serious. Being frustrated is no excuse for brutality.

[@warrenmeurs9286]

Oilers fan here. McDavid cross checked a player recklessly in the chin and absolutely deserved to be suspended. Anyone who says it’s overkill is kidding themselves and honestly I would say he actually got away with the elbow against Minnesota last week and very easily could’ve gotten disciplinary action for that. I think the frustration comes from the fact that yes McDavid has drawn more penalties than another other player but he also should have drawn more. The narrative that the refs will let anyone get away with anything on him is bs but it’s also hard when he can keep skating through a hook and get up ice and despite it not completely stopping him, it’s still something teams have gotten very good at being sneaky about. Not just with McDavid but stars like MacKinnon also do it, they’re simply good enough that what should be a penalty might not get called because they’re that good. Or I’m being a completely bias oilers fan😂

[@DeanerHD]

Preach 👏👏

[@ryanburnham1932]

Why is nobody talking about the fact that, even if they were going to call a penalty on Garland, play would not have been stopped prior to McDavid's crosscheck to the face?

[@thruxt0677]

I love the Oilers, I love Mcdavid. I agree he deserves the suspension. I think Mcdavid isn't arguing the suspension and the idea of him not showing up for 4 nations is ridiculous..he would probably show for a game of pond hockey. I hope the outcome from this is more consistent calls and 1st and foremost Oilers lifting the cup fair and square.

[@vxid3149]

As a Oilers fan it sucks that so many others give us a bad rap. Anyone saying McDavo’s suspension isn’t warranted doesn’t know hockey, and/or is too blind of a fan. Regardless of the other player being a tool and holding you down for 10 seconds with no call, cross checking someone in the face is never ok. 3 games is more than fair.

[@nosna91]

Edmonton fan here. I completely understand why McDavid did it, but like come on, this is a perfectly fair suspension. Absolutely no issues here

[@Greyboar]

1:04 "McDavid cross-checked a dude in the face. You can't do that." Watch the hit again, frame-by-frame like the league should have done if you can use "," and "." on a keyboard, or at least at the 0.25X KZbin allows on mobile. Garland's left fist, and possibly stick, have risen and made contact with McDavid's jaw on a cross-check of his own before McDavid's stick connects with Garland. "McDavid cross-checked a dude in the face. You can't do that." I agree, since hits to the head are such a serious matter. Soooo, when can I expect to see Garland's suspension be announced?

[@Bogz82]

I'm an oilers fan and agree. He got frustrated but as he himself stated 'he should not react like that's.'.

[@brianhildreth9099]

I'm a Bruins fan. I agree with Oilers fans here. Sorry. It's about the inconsistency.

[@natedicksonmedia]

Nailed it, Eck. I wonder if Myers didn't also cross-check within a few seconds if the league would've still followed through with a suspension on McJesus

[@StalkR]

Don't punish the crosschecks, punish the NHL and the refs for not intervening, it's basically self defense at this point.

[@lazrd355]

Im thinking the refs didnt want to blow the whistle because oilers had possession in the ozone. With less than 30 secs left it would have forced a faceoff i think by not blowing the wistle they were actually doing the oilers a favor. Garland used a loophole to his teams advantage taking mcdavid outta the play.

[@jaredpoon5869]

As a Flames fan, two things can be true at once: McDavid deserved the suspension. The refs let the game get out of hand. If you as refs are not calling penalties, then the players are going to self-officiate.

[@KS-xk2so]

I think its just an absurd over correction by Oilers fans. They're pissed McDavid got 3 games when the last like 4 times this exact play happened, the DoPS gave the player 1 game. Not since Matthews got 2 games for his face cross check has so stiff a penalty been given for this infraction. So the fans go nuts and have decided it should just be nothing now. Its silly, but I get where its coming from at least. Consistency would be nice. The NHL fucking sucks massive sweaty hairy gorilla balls at it.

[@Metalblaze124]

They just need to address the holding issues. A lot of players are starting to abuse it. Just look a Matt Tkachuk

[@Bullshirt1983]

I don't know any Oilers fans who don't think McDavid deserved a suspension, beyond beefs with the DOPS and it's wildly inconsistent suspension length, I think most know he should be suspended. The problem with the NHL is that they NEVER admit fault for anything. Oilers fans are upset about the nonsense that led to the crosscheck, not the crosscheck. If the NHL gave Connor a suspension and even slightly acknowledged the circumstances that led to crosscheck, Oilers fans would be much happier. It's much like Kesler holding Talbot's pad open in 2017, silence from the NHL despite it's clear failing.

[@PainfulJoy]

Two things can be true at the same time: 1. Committing an infraction (harmful or not) late in the game to try to secure a win like Garland did (and admitted he was doing!) SHOULD be penalized, and honestly, something like extending the game clock until the end of the penalty time, or calling an instant penalty shot if the penalty occurs with less time left in the game than the penalty would last for are both ideas that have been tossed around and should be considered. Taking a penalty late to try to stall out a win when you have a narrow lead shouldn't be rewarded. 2. McDavid (and Myers) deserved the suspension.

[@Amsalja12]

3 games was too much after he gets held like that. There should have been a call that would have prevented this. There should have been a suspension, but not 3 games

[@user-iw5mp5th6d]

HNIC had a good description of Vancouver fans a couple weeks back. Catty. Very appropriate description.

[@Lite-8]

I say this as a near-lifelong fan of both teams. Oilers have somehow become worse and worse over the years, especially the last three when it comes to extreme bias. It's gotten really frustrating to see, and it's of course leaked into the younger members of my immediate and extended family as well, mostly to the "more vulnerable" members. It's just a really bad look for the organization and the fanbase, and I know not every Oilers fan thinks the way that is now "common", but I really wish people could see both sides of things sometimes. I understand we all have emotions and have so much passion for the game of hockey, but there come moments where you need to have a cool head to understand why things happen. McDavid and Myers both 100% deserved suspensions, it's not even a debate for non-biased fans of the sport. It was just a question of how many games. It's just incredible to see the city I've been to so many times and even lived in have such a terrible outlook on certain decisions. Makes my heart hurt a bit. Cheers.

[@jimbobbyhutchinson313]

Stauffer wasn't saying he shouldn't have gotten a suspension. He was saying if the penalty had been called on Garland in the first place neither cross check would have happened at all. The corss checks and suspensions are a direct result of the refs deciding not to call the hold/mauling of McDavid. As for the actual suspension 3 games is ridiculous, but thats also par for the course for the NHL. 1 game in my mind. But that isn't the main issue to me. The main issue again is holding, hacking, tripping that is allowed to happen and this is the boiling point of that.

[@NaturalBornGriller]

Nah bro we weren't complaining about a suspension, they were complaining that there was no whistle while he was being held on the ground for 15 seconds

[@kehewbuffalo5604]

It all comes down to horrible officiating. That’s it- plain and simple.

[@SniperAssassin308]

These are the same people who call for Tom Wilson to be executed on live TV for his hits. It’s hockey. If you do something reckless and against the rules you will be suspended.

[@hazelnut49]

I never thought I'd say this, but the NHL finally got it right, good job NHL Player Safety!

[@usbuds9810]

Finally someone called out oilers fans about this. I have had enough with them and even tsn thinking McDavid deserves special treatment. Oilers fans are getting to be just as bad as leafs fans at this point.

[@jaredschierbeck6509]

Bro was being held for about 15 seconds in the dying seconds of a game, goalie pulled, playoff rivalry and being down by one goal. With no call and it was against the ugliest player to wear hockey gear who also happens to have a very crosscheck-able face. Who wouldn’t do what he did?

[@alexl4710]

I agree, but seeing matthews sussy for crosschecking being 1 game for arguably a worse crosscheck vs 3 for mcheeesus is tough

[@theycallmecraiger700]

McDavid needs a Mcsorley out there with him. The league can't protect McDavid, he needs a monster out there with him.

[@jayvyas1677]

oh no pls protect him from 5 8 165lbs Conor Garland??

[@theodorebelmont7922]

Its not the 80s anymore. U can't have slugs on a line with Mcdavid

[@doctordakotascorpio7047]

as a Oilers Fan i just want to try to move on from this as soon as Possible it is what it is. The Suspensions for both Players was deserved.

[@misterbeeps]

It was a tantrum. Three games doesn't send a message, it doesn't make the game safer. It wasn't a "hockey play"; it was a man-child throwing a tantrum that could have had very serious results.

[@michaelmaier5565]

Eck I’m a huge Oilers fan, I’m also a huge fan of your channel. There were a number of incidents during the week which we can look at when it comes to what may have incited Mc David’s frustration. The slew foot by Kempe on Mc David, another slew foot by Hartman on Draisaitl, the cross check to the back of Bouchard by Soucy. The reffing in these games has been questionable at best. However, the notion that Mc David should get special treatment for being a star player, and that he should just say no to league events is laughable in my opinion. I’m surprised more Flames and Canucks fans haven’t pointed out the league should refuse to have Mc David in their events as maybe having a star player who has been disciplined now on multiple occasions influence kids to take their frustrations out on opposing players like that isn’t what is in the NHL’s best interest. You do the crime you do the time. End of story.

[@kingtaco536]

Fans are crazy on both sides. A lot of people were complaining that mcdavid didn't get more games lol. In my opinion the Myers crosscheck was way worse, it was straight in the face and totally unprovoked. Mcdavid hit the guy in the side of the helmet. Suspend them both but In my opinion it should have been 2 for Davo and 3-4 for Myers

[@88Stings]

I don't want special treatment for any player, and I am a huge Oilers fan. The real initiating cause of both the McDavid and Myers retaliation was the egregious lack of a call on Vancouver's Garland for obstruction. With time running out in the game, Garland's intent and strategy was blatantly obvious to everyone in the building.... except, apparently, the officials. They should also be suspended.

[@Austrocious]

In his rookie season, he should've been suspended for the hit on Johnny Oduya. He got nothing, no call, no fine, no suspension. He's LOOOOONG overdue for a punishment. Grow up Oilers fans.

[@gregofthelake]

The refs should have called a penalty, but what does that mean. He holds up his arm and waits for the Canucks to control the puck. Tie up McDavid in the last minute and possible give up a 30 second power play. It may not be the spirit of the game, but it’s not a horrible strategy.

[@MusicIsMusic1000]

That arm goes up though and you toss the puck at the net to force the goalie to hold it and get the whistle to maximize what time is left with and extra man advantage. Of course you are relying on winning the faceoff still.