OJ Simpson Trial - July 12th, 1995 - Part 1

[@FERNANDOAGUILAR-zy9sb]

Am sure thats one of the reasons why these prosecutors lost, not only was Darden incompetent, but a very disrespectful one at that

[@BrookeRainwater]

FERNANDO AGUILAR No the prosecution lost because the defense was way better at lying and manipulating and being deceitful and playing on the black jury’s emotions.

[@pommiebears]

FERNANDO AGUILAR because he said “a black voice”? You’re joking, right??

[@alainm5291]

They did a lousy job.

[@cashoutmedia1658]

OJ HAD AN ACCOMPLICE.. that s where you all are missing..

[@lynndragoman1573]

Your exactly right. The jurors said they couldn't stand watching all of the facial expressions of Clark and Darden. Darden and Clark where both constantly in trouble with the judge and being fined or held in contempt.

[@lynndragoman1573]

Darden was a horrible Prosecutor and he doesn't know why they lost. Watch this video Mr Darden. Biggest clown of any prosecutor and Mr Hystra probably thought he was an a$$hole

[@sdssteward]

I think this guy saw more than he wants to admit. He was literally there AT THE VERY MOMENT it happened! Darden NEEDED to press him!

[@sdssteward]

And as for Cochran. He just didn't like how wide open Darden was blowing open how obvious it was that the voice this witness heard was OJ's!

[@lynndragoman1573]

@@sdssteward darden was lacking brain cells and Cochran played him like a fool.

[@sdssteward]

@@lynndragoman1573 BOTH are fools....but Darden actually did well with this witness. He actually had Cochrane panicking over the "white car" and "two voices (one of which was deep) parts of the testimony.

[@lynndragoman1573]

@@sdssteward one was a winner one was a loser

[@annmarsh1227]

Darden is a total jerk. Why are they letting him get badgering the witness?

[@cashoutmedia1658]

OJ HAD AN ACCOMPLICE. That s why it all seems screwy

[@valinda22ify]

Shut up with your “conspiracy theories!”

[@sdssteward]

@@cashoutmedia1658 I agree. Probably Glen Rogers.

[@sdssteward]

@@valinda22ify it's not a "conspiracy theory". It's real life. We're talking about a DOUBLE murder. Not whether or not the Earth is round or flat.

[@marcrigor6423]

Yeah and making up clear lies in some circumstances.

[@maxseidelman6926]

I can't be the only person who is bothered by both Darden's blatant disrespect that he shows towards Heidstra and Ito snapping at Heidstra like he did. English is clearly not Heidstra's first language and I feel like that should have been respected more than it was. Happenings such as this = why the defense won, one of the reasons anyhow.

[@bielefeldundmehr2461]

Heidstra's first language was French.

[@sdssteward]

Yeah, never mind Shapiro's disrespect for Allan Park during the Preliminary Trial.

[@sdssteward]

I think this guy saw more than he wants to admit. He was literally there AT THE VERY MOMENT it happened! Darden NEEDED to press him!

[@Sootaroot]

@@sdssteward Darden did not do a very good job of it, then, did he?

[@Sootaroot]

Darden's questioning was meandering and unstructured. He was casting around with no clear objective. The more he tried to belittle Heidstra's humble lifestyle, the more he demeaned himself.

[@LyonsArcade]

Watching Darden, who so strongly argued that it happened at 10:15, now arguing with a Frenchman about whether or not he heard it start at 10:30 or 10:35 is really sad

[@robertvasquez240]

I don't see how the jury would like Darden's attitude and manner toward Heidstra. If anything, I can imagine the jury would be more sympathetic for Heidstra after his testimony: He's an ordinary man who was certainly was mistreated by Darden. Hopefully, Darden hasn't made money from his participation in this trial, yet something tells me Darden and Clark ultimately made deals for the kind of money that Darden accused Heidstra of dreaming of because of the trial's notoriety.

[@hallo4966]

Exactly right they made lot's of money, those fools. Oj is 100% innocent and i think by the end the knew it too but still they lied and tried everything to make him look guilty

[@faraazmashrafi5081]

Marcia made a multiple million dollar book deal ! For ever she’ll eat in the name of OJ !

[@davidlamotta1994]

You made a very good point. Chris Darden published a novel called In Contempt. He made well over one million dollars 💵 as the book was Number One on the New York Times Best Seller list! This happened in 1996. Whatever money Heidstra made with interviews was peanuts compared with what Darden made. Go figure! Again, Darden made millions with a published book not Heidstra!

[@sha11235]

Love Ito getting pissed off. He did apologize to Heidstra though, for doing that. It wasn't Heidstra's fault.

[@maggiepypy]

Darden is about as DULL AS IT GETS... Between him and Marsha Clark = INEFECTIVE COUNSEL... ::smh::

[@cashoutmedia1658]

OJ HAD AN ACCOMPLICE.. that s where you all are missing..

[@benadek6703]

@@cashoutmedia1658 no he didn’t he did it

[@benadek6703]

Oj did it and his defense team knows it

[@cashoutmedia1658]

@@benadek6703 OJ and Charlie did it. I know the guy..

[@suzannek3493]

I didn’t realize not being dull was so important . But apparently so

[@benmoore6612]

Hi. Please kindly change the settings so that the autocaptioning feature is allowed. Thank you

[@valinda22ify]

Darden is a disgusting human being, and lousy Prosecutor. He’s mean, nasty, rude, and very condescending. The only reason he was on Clark’s team is because he was their “token black!” 💯💯💯💯👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾 I love Johnnie💙💙💙💙💙!!

[@sdssteward]

Johnny is just as disgusting, mean, nasty, rude and condescending. This whole trial was a circus. They got the most ridiculous lawyers on BOTH sides to create a reality TV show drama. And much like a reality TV show, the whole thing was rigged.

[@MoneyOverFame]

I mean I wouldn't go as far as calling him disgusting. You forget he was the one fighting for justice ? he's the good guy, he just went about it the wrong way in this instance.

[@sunnydelight5255]

JC was bully to Darden and hit his wife a lot

[@abdulmah72]

I agree. Well said!!!

[@julieann4616]

We know, you worship O.J. the coward Simpson & all the sleazeballs who represented him.

[@gino007able]

it's my opinion Darden needs anger management classes.

[@Romulan2469]

Understandable. Marcia must have turned him down too many times.

[@tonyawhite3107]

He’s still a bit salty about the glove lol

[@gino007able]

@@tonyawhite3107 I believe OJ was (is) covering for someone else very close to him that had motive.

[@Romulan2469]

@@gino007able That's the Bill Dear theory.

[@gino007able]

@@Romulan2469 If the "detectives" did their job the person who killed them ( I feel sorry for her kids ) would have been convicted. All detectives should have to watch Columbo for the first 5 years.

[@raineyj560]

Thx again, as always, appreciate

[@slime_entertainment_inc.]

There is a sizeable chunk of footage missing between this and the previous video.

[@sdssteward]

I KNOW! IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY!

[@Romulan2469]

I like Cochran. Even though I'm not in favour of him defending Simpson, he's always professional and respectful in the court room. I would like to have seen Bugliosi trying the case for the prosecution against Cochran during the criminal trial, it would have been an epic showdown!

[@Brrrettt]

Only way he could lose this trial is if they had a mistrial and a new jury

[@thetroof100]

@@Brrrettt A new jury would have to ignore the evidence planting

[@johnperrigo6474]

I feel like Bugliosi would also act disrespectful towards some witnesses, that seems to be within his character.

[@Romulan2469]

@@johnperrigo6474 It's no different to what the other attorneys were doing.

[@lorraineb.4698]

Great comment. He practices great Courtroom etiquette.

[@danielvazquez7482]

Darden most certainly need some long term therapy. Poor dude.

[@danielvazquez7482]

Darden; Prozac or valume would help.

[@pommiebears]

Daniel Vazquez Valium! Lol.

[@maryanng6841]

@@SteveBaily6 - Are you for real?

[@SteveBaily6]

@@maryanng6841 Cris is a class act, I feel bad for the guy. OJ is a killer no doubt but so is Barack Obama and George W Bush

[@lynndragoman1573]

@@SteveBaily6 the witness thought he was an a$$hole

[@tonyawhite3107]

Mr Darden you were being demeaning!! 😡 if you do not think detailing a vehicle is not hard work then you have lived under a rock!! I lost any and all respect for you!!

[@AdamLovelace82]

I think the laugh was because they thought Cheri Lewis said "motion in lemonade" and not "motion in limine". Gave me a little chortle too.

[@OneWayJesus777-x2n]

lol

[@gino007able]

Gee, everyone should look at their watch every minute to document their day in case a dog starts to bark, because it might become important. The other is thing people who live in Brentwood (high end area) seems to put up with dog barking, where I live you can get a citation for allowing your do to bark out side, day or night, no one called the cops about the dog barking continuously.

[@danielauer9307]

I would hire Johnny Cochran, no matter what I did he would have gotten me off. He was smart, intelligent, very tenacious.

[@danielauer9307]

Judge Ito is a prick!

[@pommiebears]

Daniel Auer you wouldn’t....he died in 2005.

[@dixiedeed4918]

Right

[@jenmurphy6343]

It’s not racist, you can distinguish the difference... a lot of legend singers are African American. You can tell when a singer is older, you can tell when they are black or white, you can tell if it’s their primary job. Yes... your ears can be as good as your eyes. Ask the blind!

[@Jeromemayle]

It's not racist just stupid. Christopher Darden doesn't sound black. And Eminem doesn't sound white. We have stereotypes that we think of when we hear "Accents".

[@kennethwalls341]

Lmfao no you can't distinguish the race of people

[@delanob2258]

What a tedious man Darden is.

[@MrDaRiAn21]

@1:12:13 - 1:12:14 Dayum!! after that..Johnnie and Darden were going at it kinda

[@Martin_Vail_Esq.]

Where is the July 11th video? Part 2 ended in the middle of testimony and the next video is July 12, does anyone know what else occurred during the time in question?

[@Romulan2469]

How come the testimony from Heidstra on July 11th was cut off?

[@cynicalguy9509]

This Heidstra character has got to be the most frustrating witness from the entire trial. I was getting annoyed just watching this.

[@pommiebears]

cynicalguy950 he’s a liar!

[@Romulan2469]

@@pommiebears His testimony is inconsistent with his past statements to other people. I'm surprised the prosecution didn't offer any rebuttal witnesses, especially Patricia Baret who he had been talking to previously to counter his credibility on the witness stand.

[@lynndragoman1573]

Mazzola and Fung where the worst.

[@Pedaissance]

@@Romulan2469 what was inconsistent?

[@sdssteward]

Yet....he was one of the most important witnesses. The only one who could come anywhere close to being an actual "eye witnesses".

[@Lisa-hz4fq]

Where is the beginning of his testimony??? The first part of the coroner’s testimony about Nicole is missing too. 😒

[@vabeachkevin]

Ito seemed pissed this day.

[@Romulan2469]

Must have had to reschedule his holiday plans again during the midst of judging the trial of the century.

[@alainm5291]

They all had their bad days

[@Romulan2469]

@@alainm5291 Agreed and it was partly understandable to a degree. It must have been incredibly stressful judging the trial for Ito, especially with all the media attention and frenzy at the time, compounded by the racism issue following the Rodney King riots and all the court room theatrics. I'm in no way defending Ito, but it's clear they were all burned out after several months of this trial and tempers were beginning to flare up.

[@pommiebears]

That’d be a Peugeot watch, Darden. His pronunciation was really strange. It’s a French car manufacturer. Does America have Peugeot cars? Lol.

[@Blankdogman]

Hamberger & Lemonade get mentioned in the first minute & someone actually paying attention, finds it too hard not to lol.

[@chriscoop6852]

I caught that and laughed myself. Ito either didn’t catch it or didn’t find it amusing. I bet his nerves and patience were shot by this point. As evident when he screams at Heidstra

[@User-zzyyxxvv]

Darden exchange with Heidstra was a perfect illustration of the prosecution’s arrogance. He is going on and on about money and other irrelevant nonsense against probability his best witness. People make a big deal about OJ’s dream team, racist police etc… but not many talk about incompetent prosecutors that fumbled this

[@jeffallanday]

There actually was a lot of talk about the incompetency of the prosecution. You should read Outrage by Vincent Bulgiousi.

[@tonyawhite3107]

I’m missing a part, I never saw me Pinak questioned by prosecutors or did I see the first witness of this day testify the day before... can’t seem too find it 🤷‍♀️

[@tammyking8173]

Me too 😭😭

[@cashoutmedia1658]

OJ HAD AN ACCOMPLICE.. that s where you all are missing..

[@Jeromemayle]

40:20 THIS IS HOW INCOMPOTENT DARDEN WAS..... He wanted Heidstra to say Bronco SO BAD - he was to stupid to fucking realize they DO LOOK alike and that fact would be to HIS benefit, but he was so fixated on trying to get Heidstra to say Bronco he couldn't see the forest through the trees.

[@thetruthtellerojisguilty4350]

This guy literally heard O.J. killing both Nicole and Ron and watched him drive away. I wonder if he's still alive.

[@SparkleInYourEyes2024]

No he didn't. He couldn't make out the other voice.

[@covergirl7086]

I just love Carl Douglas... he seems so pleasant to work with and very professional.. Go Carl!!love ya man!!

[@sdssteward]

He's an idiot.

[@MikeL0084]

Why did this guy say one thing to detectives and then another under oath and why does he seem to be completely pro defense?

[@maryanng6841]

@ Michael L - he is scared!

[@BrandiOnTheMic]

Prob got some money under the table

[@sha11235]

Kim Goldman has said that Ron would've said, "Hey, hey, hey" like that. Why didn't the Goldmans present a tape of Ron's voice to the prosecutors, who could've then played it to Heidstra to see if he'd recognize the voice?

[@nicholaszeman4045]

I was kind of surprised that Darden never asked Heidstra if he's familiar with OJ's voice and whether or not he could rule out OJ as the second voice arguing with Goldman. I think what happened was Goldman walked in and saw Nicole having been slashed, and yelled, "Hey Hey Hey!!? Then the second voice which was talking real fast said words to the effect of "See what you made me do??!!! This is all your fault!" before stabbing him to death. I don't think Heidstra's testimony totally ruled out OJ being a suspect being that a white sport utility vehicle was seen leaving the area. If it had been a different color car, maybe it could have ruled OJ out as a suspect.

[@libragurl1120]

Johnny is one smooth, intelligent man he was ahead of his time these people never had a chance #facts

[@BrookeRainwater]

Smooth maybe, but intelligent? 👎🏼he was able to manipulate well and deceive.

[@Romulan2469]

@@BrookeRainwater He was damn lucky that Bugliosi wasn't on the prosecution team.

[@googoogajoob9185]

25:14 We ask these things in Your Name... Amen!

[@09rja]

There is nothing racist about saying someone "sounds" black. I'm from the south and I can ID a southern black's pronunciations as quickly as I can a southern white's.

[@BrookeRainwater]

09rja Black american’s take everything as “racist” in other countries ive been to, the black people do not behave like the black people in the United States do. Every comment to them is racist. Just a person saying that they are “black” is racist to them. Absolutely absurd🙄

[@computerfastrepair]

fuck darden. bitch ass sell out

[@pommiebears]

Pepper Wolf I’m English. People in England who happen to be black don’t throw racism around very much. I think more white people accuse others of racism, on behalf of black ppl, than black people do...lol. I have grown up with all different people and still have friends from primary school. I’m 45 and I can still chat to people I’ve known since I was 4. Lol. Black white, and all in between.

[@pommiebears]

computerfastrepair that’s so mean. Because he was a prosecutor.....he’s a sell out? Don’t you take pride in a man who uses his smarts to do what is right? It’s awful to push someone out of your community for doing his job. OJ couldn’t have gotten farther away from the black community. By choice he dumped his community. Yet, people stand up for him. Now he’s out again....and he’s hanging around with old white farts again on golf courses! More fool you.

[@michaeldavis2021]

Pepper Wolf that could be because Black Americans have been enslaved in America and had awful treatment. I can't believe people don't realize that.

[@danielvazquez7482]

WTF WAS THAT! No objection to Darden asking "so you never heard the defendants voice before June 12th? OMG; must be it got missed.

[@pommiebears]

Daniel Vazquez we ALL heard his voice before 12th June 1994.

[@JOHNNYSGIRL1960]

What the woman said about what Hydstra supposedly said is total heresay!

[@pommiebears]

DEBBIE SLOCK not if he testifies to it...lol! It’s hearsay if someone can’t confirm it, or if you’re a third party to it. “Someone told me that someone went there” is hearsay.

[@Romulan2469]

I'm inclined to believe Patricia Baret over Heidstra. Heidstra is evasive and contradicts himself over and over again.

[@maryanng6841]

@@Romulan2469 - I think what may have happened was that Mr. Heidstra became scared with testifying. He was literally shaking on the stand. I believe he said what he said to Patricia Baret, then later realized he may be in danger & try to discount what he originally saw and said.

[@Romulan2469]

@@maryanng6841 Precisely. He was shaking because he knew he had to tone down the language he used when he spoke to Patricia Baret. I believe that Heidstra committed perjury and the prosecution missed a golden opportunity to call Patricia Baret to the stand as a rebuttal witness. If Johnnie Cochran was so offended by racist LAPD officers somehow implicating his client, then the very witness he used (Heidstra) to confirm the murders occurred much later (around 10:40 pm) should have been proven to also be racist in saying that he heard the voice of a black man. Darden could have won that argument and the defense would have looked foolish. I think Heidstra even told Patricia that he intended to make some money off the case but on the stand he changed his wording to say he meant it jokingly.

[@kennethwalls341]

​@@pommiebears lol it's hearsay bc she is not a witness 🤦🏽‍♂️ just like when arnelle was on the stand and couldn't say what oj said

[@maryyoung777]

Robert Heidstra wrote a book called I heard the trial of the Century. Does anyone know where I can get it?

[@Romulan2469]

I have never heard of that book before. I assume you mean "I Heard the Murders of the Century" which apparently Heidstra co-wrote with his attorney. I can't find that anywhere, he talked about writing it in the civil trial but he said at the time it hadn't been sold: "Q. Okay. Now, since that time, have you made plans to write a book about your observations? A. Yes, after the verdict. Q. Okay. Have you sold your book? A. No. No takers. Q. Nobody interested? A. Guess not. Q. You have not received any money at all? A. Not at all, not one penny. Q. And basically, the book that you are writing is about the observations you made? A. Right. Exactly. Q. And did you write any of that book before you testified at the trial? A. No, never."

[@tirouhimelkonian5672]

what ? he wrote a book, also?????

[@tonyawhite3107]

Judge Ito just need too chill!! The DAs office drug this trial out with pointless and numerous “witnesses” the defense as just as much right too take as much time that is needed for their client and not be rushed too do so, he should be somewhat grateful that they do see the need to get through but points need too be made and they should be given the same opportunity as the prosecution!! He had done them that way since the beginning of their presentation of their case!!

[@Ben_Harry_Pdx]

Darden is currently a criminal defense lawyer in LA County. He defended the individual charged (and convicted,go figure) with murdering Nipsey Hustle, the rap star, and noble community figure dedicated to directing young men and women to a path of success. Darden was the perfect defense lawyer for this case, It ensured that he never stood a chance of getting off lightly. So in a way Darden actually succeeded.

[@MichaelLoves2024]

You think Nipsey hustle the self proclaimed crip, wad a noble community figure😂. Im a mussing the sarcasm?

[@sworiginals1986]

Is Darden attacking his own witness???

[@tammyking8173]

Not his witness. He is a defence witness

[@Romulan2469]

@@tammyking8173 True. Heidstra's testimony is a bit suspicious to me. It sounds like he said some things to other people and then is trying to deny that on the stand. I'm surprised the prosecution didn't offer any rebuttal witnesses that Heidstra spoke to for reducing his credibility as a witness.

[@jenmurphy6343]

Bullshit..I watch masked singer and even my 14 yr old son and apparently every judge always can tell if it’s a black or white singing. You can tell the difference in MOST voices if you have ears!

[@NeverGiddy]

We all like it when people agree with us or our point of view. The prosecution eyewitnesses and the defense eyewitnesses are both equally wrong and equally right. Eyewitness testimony is very unreliable. Everyone believes what they are saying but that doesn't mean they're right. Time is something they're all bad at. The more details a witness can give the more full of shit they are, because we don't remember inconsequential things, especially since we don't know if or when we will be asked to remember them. Physical evidence and times that are verified by phone bills you can take to the bank. Eyewitness testimony can be dismissed or only partially believed if need be.

[@maryanng6841]

@Brian Russell - you are a voice of reason.

[@kingdomofanimaria]

@@maryanng6841 do you think it was premeditated murder or rage gone wrong maryann

[@lynndragoman1573]

@@maryanng6841 actually he makes stuff up like giving Dennis Fung a speech impediment he doesnt have and calls people name's because they show he is lying. Look at him calling Barry Scheck names and everyone else zealots.

[@sha11235]

Why does Darden pause mid-questions?

[@jenmurphy6343]

The dude saw a bronco. Or such similar. He saw the speeding... this should have been a slam dunk for the prosecution

[@marcrigor6423]

Turned the wrong direction though. And he was pressed for time? I don't think so.

[@kennethwalls341]

Wrong lmfao

[@lashondamadise1880]

Wonder why whoever posted this cut pieces of the defenses testimony but never cut any of the prosecutions case 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Pedaissance]

Same result --oj still did it

[@googoogajoob9185]

18:01 And do you chew your fingernails? Sure.

[@gfunkehauser502]

Darden really was the weak link in this prosecution. God Bless him, but he was out of his element and unlikeable to boot.

[@kennethwalls341]

Why does it look like it skipped a part

[@Sootaroot]

1:46:24 "And you don't know who the anchors were that night?" No, but allowing for a homophone, we know who they were that day in court: Darden and Clarke, flailing around, trying to catch out the dignified Robert Heidstra who remained the coolest person in the room, which is more than can be said for Ito. A judge in a murder trial who loses his temper is not up to the job.

[@sdssteward]

Oh please! I think Ito was BEYOND patient and he absolutely DOES have the right to get stern with the lawyers. BOTH sides were acting like spoiled children. I'm glad Ito put them in their place.

[@pommiebears]

Cochran is being so disingenuous here. I’m English, and by my accent and the inflection of my voice, you can hear I’m an English woman. A black voice is not being racist. It has inflection that can be different in accent, pitch and tone. And Cochran knows this. He’s playing dirty. Lol.

[@johnp82]

I agree, but "African-American" voice would be more accurate.

[@Romulan2469]

Agreed. Cochran will insert the race card into anything he sees or hears. He was a very skilled civil lawyer and was clearly anti police and was forever championing the black cause. In fact, he used to walk around with Louis Farrakhan’s religious Nation of Islam organisation into and out of court. That tells me all I need to know.

[@maryanng6841]

@@johnp82 - Correct

[@MrHeat1up]

What does a black man sound like? How do you describe a black person voice?

[@maryyoung777]

Raw uncut my ass

[@jacksonrauch9429]

Darden is a complete embarrassment here

[@bielefeldundmehr2461]

Mr. Heidstra seems to be trembling. Maybe he is nervous. I feel sorry for him.

[@Romulan2469]

No I think he was tripping over his lies.

[@bielefeldundmehr2461]

@@Romulan2469 What reason should he have for telling lies?

[@Romulan2469]

@@bielefeldundmehr2461 Quite simply some of his comments made previously to people like Patricia Beret were racist and offensive, and, he had previously said to other people he saw a Bronco or Blazer type vehicle coming out of the alley then in court he denies it. Why? Because he's a defense witness and it would have hurt their case if he confirms he said it looked like a Bronco or Blazer. He's changing his statements and perjuring himself to side with the defense. Even Ito picked up on it.

[@Romulan2469]

@@bielefeldundmehr2461 Heidstra trembled in fear because he KNEW he was lying before the court about some of his statements. Now I'm not saying everything he said was a lie, I doubt that, but, if he wasn't being truthful in court, it brings into question the accuracy of all of his testimony. Do you get my point?

[@bielefeldundmehr2461]

@@Romulan2469 I understand what you are trying to say. And I think that in an earlier statement Heidstra indeed might have said that the second voice sounded like a black man. But I think Heidstra is mostly telling the truth. In comparison to Rosa Lopez who was obviously bribed by the defense. Please excuse if there are mistakes in my English, but it is not my native language (I am German).

[@2legit2Kwit]

Heistra became less hostile after the Ito tongue lashing.

[@pommiebears]

SuperNova I can see him shaking. He’s been caught out. It’s obvious he told EVERYONE he knows that he saw a Ford Bronco lol.

[@Romulan2469]

Heidstra was lying through his teeth about what he said to Patricia Beret. Based on his obvious lying on the stand, I think the rest of his testimony about the time of the barking dogs, "hey, hey, hey", two voices, white sports utility vehicle sighting etc could be suspect as well. I'm actually surprised neither the prosecution nor the defense called a more credible witness such as Tom Lang (not LAPD detective Tom Lange) to the stand to testify as to what he saw as he clearly saw more than Heidstra claimed to see and hear. Apparently Lang was walking his dog at 10:15 when he saw ahead of him, on the sidewalk of Bundy in front of Nicole's place, a blonde woman in a white robe (presumably Nicole), and there was a white Bronco at the curb. The woman was either embracing a black man or in an angry confrontation with him. There were several other men present. Lang took his dog and went another way, so he would not pass close to this group.

[@michaeldavis2021]

Romulan2469 what happened to the ”white robe” haven't seen or heard testimony about a white robe being found.

[@Romulan2469]

@@michaeldavis2021 Neither have I. I honestly think neither side investigated Lang's observations in any great detail. It's possible that robe was in her closet somewhere but nobody paid much attention to it as she died in her black dress. It's possible that Nicole had two confrontations with OJ that night, the first being at the front of the house when she had the white robe on and this possibly was the non fatal encounter that Lang saw, then later when he went to spy on her and found Ron Goldman and then the murders took place. OJ was known to stalk his ex wife regularly.

[@michaeldavis2021]

Romulan2469 I don't know if I can put Ron Goldman there while Nicole is alive. He (OJ) would have had to fight them both 2 younger persons than himself and with Ron’s martial arts experience that would of been a task for a 46yo man with bad knees. No I think if Simpson did it Nicole or Ron had to die first. It could of been OJ came upon Ron first and killed him and Nicole comes out and OJ is seen and then she may have tried to get back in house to call police and OJ had to kill her. Either way I don't think he took both of them simultaneously I think he doesn't prevail that scenario.

[@theodorerosenbear]

Darden was such a horrible prosecutor. This mad should have been a prosecution witness but Marcia Clark and Chris Darden were so stupid they believed anyone who had any interested in selling a sorry can’t be called. Wrong, these people were all common folks who needed money, doesn’t make their testimony any less credible because they needed to eat too

[@bobover6474]

you can tell if some voices are black , white or hispanic, depending on the neighborhood they grew up in. the judge must allow honesty, not dishonesty

[@R3b3l4Jystce]

That is absurd. You can't tell a person's ethnicity by their voice. I've heard white ppl sound AA, & AA's sound white& vice versa when it comes to other races, so your statement is bias & ridiculous!! Get conscience!!

[@kennethwalls341]

​@@R3b3l4Jystcethey are just dumb and don't know that

[@GodFatherOfChaos]

Watching in 2024

[@Brrrettt]

Ito lost control, Cochrane owns everyone in this room.

[@sdssteward]

LOL Judge Ito does NOT like this witness. If he wasn't on his bench and in his robe he probably would have punched him. Lol

[@davidlamotta1994]

Look at Heidstra's hair style. My God! It's a wreck. People who survived Hiroshima had better hair! Whew! It looks like fish scales that have been dosed with gasoline ⛽ and set on fire, and then they put out the fire by a club, his face looks like that! Right?

[@jolywinters4957]

If Heidstra was truly unbiased he would not have a problem saying it was possible it was a white bronco. Bronco and blazers are similar. He argued the point too much.

[@MichaelLoves2024]

Crazy to try and pin a witness for making money when the prosecution cost the state millions to prove an unwinnable case. Lol the prosecutors made millions off their stories during this case.

[@lostdogs10]

Chris Darden and Marcia Clark love to the same question over and over

[@paulssounds7129]

Oj simpsons jury - self isolating since 1995

[@donaldsp360]

I said that during the trial, Darden is so petty and he's outclassed

[@charleneisler2990]

Is this the 1st time race came up in the trial?

[@1981lashlarue]

No. Fuhrman testified long before this.

[@Lakiesha_Fason]

Omg. Darden was so nasty. And to think he asked this man was he illegal? Straight disrespectful!

[@sdssteward]

I think this guy saw more than he wants to admit. He was literally there AT THE VERY MOMENT it happened!

[@Romulan2469]

Of course! He became a defense witness so he suddenly couldn't recall anything that would finger OJ Simpson.

[@sdssteward]

@@Romulan2469 it's more than even just that. Kato Kaelin actually saw OJ behind the house on that pathway. He lied underoath saying "I didn't go back further because I was scared". No, he didn't go back further because he saw OJ and said "Oh, it was you." Then OJ (who was in the BUFF after ditching the bloody clothes) said "go let the limo driver in and distract him from sering me as I go in the house". Kato had no clue why (yet). Then....Kato sees the Bronco pull up AFTER OJ left with Parks for the airport. Who was driving, you ask???? OJ'S accomplice. More of the story can be found here... kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6msl2pspdGMoKM

[@themanosphereareabunchofpu8741]

Well he could've seen Glen Rogers when he was leaving after killing Nicole and Ron. As for O. J. , he was practicing chip shots in his front yard at the exact time Rogers committed the murders.

[@sdssteward]

@themanosphereareabunchofpu8741 nope. Wasn't Glen Rogers. It was Oj....and Charlie Ehrlich. Go to my chnnel and scroll down a ways until you see vid called :OJ Simpson - A different story"

[@sdssteward]

​@themanosphereareabunchofpu8741 the accomplice wasn't Glen Rogers. It was Charlie Ehrlich.

[@clthomp2]

Defense's pace is so much better than prosecution's. I realize they have different evidence they want to present, but this is a clear lesson of the effectiveness of getting the witness on, get what you need, get them off.

[@rebeccacouvillion8843]

Poor man was shaking

[@maryyoung777]

The world is a stage. Is Robert Heidstra still alive? Now that I have time I'd like to meet him myself.

[@Romulan2469]

That's a question I was wondering as well. I haven't been able to prove or disprove that he is alive. I am surprised he was never publicly interviewed by the news media after the murder and civil trials were over. You would think the media would be all over him trying to get the details on his story, and not to mention the extra money he could make with his basic car detailer salary.

[@maryyoung777]

@@Romulan2469 Yeah. All I know is the book he wrote has absolutely disappeared and that's not supposed to be possible. "I Heard the Trial of the Century."

[@janes6894]

Even if the murders occurred at 10:35pm, this still gives OJ plenty of time to dispose of his clothing/knife and get back to his house at 10:50pm.

[@David-vt3hn]

Darden is a piece of sh/t to harrass this witness about money. He details vehicles for a living. Fine. Good for him. Just like Johnnie Cochran insisted, this witness Works hard, he cares for his clients vehicles and property, he's a good man trying to support himself. Period! And just like Johnnie Cochran insisted he never went on hard copy or current affair or anything. I just hope after this Dreadful trial was over he did go on those things and get some kind of money for his troubles after putting up with a low-life bastard like Chris Darden! Thank you!

[@curtgottler9961]

You CAN often tell if a voice is black or white. Great acting, Johnnie!

[@sha11235]

Cochran is 100% wrong. You can tell by a voice if someone sounds black or not. I certainly could.

[@NeverGiddy]

sha11235 - You could, enough to validate your point, but not 100% of the time.

[@sha11235]

@@NeverGiddy Test me, and I'd probably always get it right.

[@NeverGiddy]

@@sha11235 - You'd fail at least twenty percent of the time. It's extremely arrogant to believe you're perfect.

[@MrHeat1up]

Please describe how a black man sound? Can a white man sound black?

[@kennethwalls341]

You sound stupid ASF you can't tell if they are black or white it's like people didn't know Caldwell was white

[@Lakiesha_Fason]

He called Darden an asshole😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@CornPop471]

The sun has not been kind to Mr heidstra

[@johncooper3636]

Darden was out of his depth. The Peter Principle applies.

[@Lisa-hz4fq]

Where’s the rest of July 11th; the cross of Denise Pilnak?

[@jumpropestairs6129]

37 did you tell police it looked like a ford bronco?

[@googoogajoob9185]

22:18 And Lord, help us also to remember the needy...

[@dixiedeed4918]

Amen amen

[@Jeromemayle]

6:40 They had an eye witness 17:27 Treated Badly by Darden

[@jenmurphy6343]

Folding arms... defensive? Why? Aren’t u telling the truth w no income from this??

[@dafinker3443]

Round and round they all go making no headway AT ALL DO THEY GET DIZZY ??? GOOD GOD I NEVER REALIZED THE BOTCH UP !!!!! ALL THOSE SHOCKERS !!! AND ALL THAT MONEY FOR WHAT ?????? SHAME SHAME SHAME

[@MichaelLoves2024]

The state lost because they are used to overwhelming regular "innocent" people with all their resources. Once they had to actually do great work its no competition. Edit- Cheri Lewis even said she will not be a defense attorney, aka she wants easy work.

[@DouglasZimmerman-gv7ld]

He said Bronco because the butcher just finished two people's life's.

[@theodorerosenbear]

This man alone could have made this an eye witness case. Heidstra straight up placed the juice at the crime scene but Darden botched this horribly

[@karljunge]

motion in lemonade lol

[@maryyoung777]

I would like to object to calling the 2 detectives gentlemen. There are very very few gentlemen period and I highly doubt these 2 freemasons were.

[@raineyj560]

The beginning of Heistra's testimony???

[@ojtrialuncut7954]

We are uploading everything we have available.

[@anas.6656]

Thank you so much!

[@Augfordpdoggie]

thanks for all this it is so fascinating

[@danielvazquez7482]

Darden will most certainly need long term therapy. Poor guy.

[@MoneyOverFame]

Heidstra was the funniest most entertaining individual involved in this case.

[@kanetaughtya677]

1:12:08 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@DouglasZimmerman-gv7ld]

he's lying

[@lindastretch2522]

we got him tom

[@sha11235]

Wonder if they buried Cochran in that suit?

[@davidlamotta1994]

Look at Heidstra's hair. It's a wreck. People who survived Hiroshima had better hair style's. My lord! Am I right? Agreed?

[@michaelcifuentes535]

44:00

[@davidlivingston2754]

Wait WAIT!!