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[@megachadsixtynine5924]

Damn the multiverse is really shaking things up

[@pongchannel.]

Except it still cant run steam

[@pongchannel.]

@@Svyp3r not everyone wants a pc there for 2 entirely different groups. Also no graphic wise and fps wise consles have finally caught up. Not that there's no reason for a pc but still 2 different markets.

[@Neoxon619]

So I guess we should be thanking Sylvie.

[@harbormain12]

@@Svyp3rnew gen is 120 fps on some games

[@Grisu.]

@@DemeDemetre wtf is the point of your comment?

[@Hydrani]

Alex: "WHAT did you do?" Linus: "I don't know but it's WORKING" Discord be like

[@STATESZ]

It's funny because I first heard of discord in an LTT sponsor spot back in April of 2016 and signed up then and there. I don't think they even remember they were sponsored by them

[@HalkerVeil]

Be like what?

[@skypro8724]

Programming in a nutshell

[@DTDSasquatch]

Discord be like... what? Finish your sentence ffs.

[@STATESZ]

@@DTDSasquatch lmao its what he said before that

[@joeadams9675]

“I have no idea but it’s working” describes the history of console troubleshooting

[@Alpha-Trion7]

@Miles Doyle ty tebow bot

[@shivensharma1277]

@Miles Doyle sry but I'm not Christian

[@wizzotizzo]

lol

[@awii.neocities]

it's also programming in a nutshell

[@myrealnameisjohndoe116]

Clearly it's not operating super smoothly, but if Microsoft was to continue working on turning the Xbox into something that could legitimately be a console/PC hybrid, I think that would translate to a lot of new customers that would have otherwise ignored consoles.

[@neco_2895]

you cant even download stuff…

[@wizzotizzo]

@@neco_2895 you wouldnt download a test

[@azerikashew8573]

@@neco_2895 download what?

[@obidahasdia4095]

@@azerikashew8573 a game to install

[@frozenturbo8623]

@@neco_2895 You wouldn't download a CPU

[@jswbr]

It's weird to watch almost in real time as LTT has grown in size, Linus has gone from the guy who knows everything about everything to the guy being handed curated experiences and asking questions to the person behind the camera.

[@DoomAtDusk]

Amazing character development. This season of Linus Tech Tips is looking pretty good.

[@johndank2209]

impossible to know everything when it comes to IT

[@Selo79]

i like how he doesn't pretend that he knows everything, and give knowledge credit where it is due

[@anlumo1]

Linus actually has no idea about computers, it's all fake and done by his staff. Here's the documentary about it exposing him: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poq0paipmZ2Xm7c

[@johndank2209]

@@anlumo1 lmao, it's a joke video

[@Bigdaddymittens]

Back on the 360, there was a version of internet explorer supported. When I was in high school, we had an online course management system, where we could complete some of our quizzes and tests online and view our grades. (This was in 2013, before all the remote learning we see today) I actually managed to get away with skipping school and doing my tests on my damn Xbox 360 lol.

[@horatioyen256]

gg

[@twiks8446]

Gg

[@bogartwilley]

You sir... Are a fuckin legend!

[@BONGONDORForthewin]

My buddy used to do his homework on his xbox 1

[@verifeli]

GG. It feels good to fully utilize our brain, doesn't it?

[@joaorafaeloliveira1781]

Used to browse internet with my Dreamcast at early 2000s.. Sure an ahead-of-time console in several aspects.

[@dinkarfowkar999]

Sega was the king of consoles back then. Sad they are defunct now

[@CA.papaBear]

5:40 - that's because of the app is running in a vm and when you switch xbox apps, you effectively turn off or put the web browser vm to sleep and then turn on the gaming vm or other app vm you choose. And same thing goes to peripherals, the hypervisor just shares peripherals and when you shut off the vm for web browsing, it disconnects the peripherals in use. And if it didn't, it can lead to some security complications imo.

[@Test-bi5rg]

I think it also serves for the purpose of saving memory. Modern browsers consume tons of memory. The same reason it does not support extensions.

[@zeruty]

@Miles Doyle someone get this guy 5 of Haldol.

[@morgan1168]

"Press any button" Linus: "Where's the any button key"

[@TheChemizzle]

It's fitting that he played as Homer in The Simpsons game, neither one of them could find it.

[@FallSkyX]

Timestamp?

[@chrisrib05]

_press the power button_ _console shutdown_ 😯

[@ffwast]

@@chrisrib05 DSP moment

[@daydream605]

Shit you not, I had a teacher in primary school explaining to kids that there isn't an 'any' Button. Reflecting back on this makes me think the teacher had a little incident.

[@SPONGEGAAR]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who constantly asks “but can it run RuneScape?”

[@Platinum_Squid]

There’s an app for that

[@TheMursk]

They went away from browser years ago

[@SebMaynard]

It should be able to play the html5 version though?

[@misterdam4204]

OSRS 🔥

[@AlbertBuckinghamEllison]

RS3 has to be one of the most surprisingly demanding games, but can also be ran on a potato

[@yaxxee]

I've started using my Series S for cloud apps, mainly Office 365 and people think I'm weird as heck but there's something satisfying about using Excel on a 50" 4k TV

[@LenovoProGaming]

Me: *Uses mouse to move* Mouse: *rejects me* Linus: *uses mouse to move* Mouse: *moves*

[@aerotheepic]

Linus: “I don’t know what I did but it’s working!!” Me and my friends trying to replicate: -__-

[@smwfreak1647]

LOL

[@ihateeveryone8161]

Shoudn't be that surprised, this is pretty much just a beta.

[@liemnguyenhuu7492]

Just press every button and hope it works

[@thatguyalex2835]

Just get a Valve Steam Deck. I am not a gamer at all, but I find the portable console a fascinating piece of digital technology. :) It's a PC & a console.

[@ls200076]

@@thatguyalex2835 Hell yeah, excited what xbox will do next

[@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589]

"Its a browser! What am I supposed to do?!" You should close some tabs, Alex.

[@Amorousstake4]

You can now open pdfs on it

[@Themunit1]

it is not 2012 any more, my chrome is currently using 1,8GB of 32 for 618 tabs in 14 windows

[@khaledm.1476]

You simply don't embody the chad browser user mindset, when you browser starts lagging from too much tabs is when you double your ram

[@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589]

@@Themunit1 you should tell that to my laptop

[@RAPTORRAY]

He’s probably used to having an absurd amount of ram

[@creationsmaxo]

The Xbox is still using its apps (like the browser) in a closed sandbox environment, meaning each app has to be active to enable apps specific features such as peripherals. This was implemented to both protect the user from potential online treats such as having some kind of hack/pluging tools take over the controls of the XBox (or recording inputs outside of the apps) from within the browser as well as allowing the OS to be protected from potential intrusion.

[@Kyxxio]

I remember on the browser there was an option on the top of the screen to 'activate gamepad controls' and it cancelled the other inputs for the browser until you pressed the menu button twice.

[@TarisRedwing]

So the Xbox can now play “Wave Racer 64” but the Switch still can’t 😂

[@ayylmao394]

It runs retroarch so it can basically run every single console made before the 7th gen.

[@Just_RJ]

The Logitech K400 is a real soldier. Mine's still going strong after two years, only had to change the batteries twice.

[@DerrickRG]

I had to fix the power switch before I had to change batteries lol. Such a solid piece of tech.

[@CasualGameDev]

@@DerrickRG To be fair this is one of the cheapest KB/mouse combos out there. You can definitely find a better one, but the K400 is almost half the price of an actual Xbox controller so its a good option

[@bwedges]

Logitech's products really have some good battery life. i have a 10 dollars wireless mouse from Logitech and the battery life just feels endless!

[@maxguo1162]

Same. Been using it for about 2 years. Occasionally the sensor froze but you can fix this by turn on/off the keyboard

[@utubekullanicisi]

I bought Microsoft's version of it a couple years ago because it was prettier and had a larger trackpad. But I bought it for my laptop and I was sad to learn that on a laptop you can't use the keyboard and trackpad at the same time...

[@danellboy5757]

Linus: "Just like the..." Me: *skips forward 10 seconds*

[@Shredxcam22]

Defund in video advertisers. We left cable to due to commercials. I will leave KZbin for the same reason

[@TheProGamer-ey7sy]

Me too 🤣

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

@@Shredxcam22 Yeah, and we tought adblocker would keep us from enduring commercials

[@Notpoop906]

@@Shredxcam22 Facts. Internet is worse than cable now.. Instead of ONE cable fee, you pay dozens of individual fees for Disney, HBO, Netflix, Hulu ETC ETC ETC

[@bunnxr]

Well to be honest, i believe in having an arm based laptop, and being able to play from cloud via a browser, that's way more appealing than having to browse the web on a machine that can game lying in the tv cabinet.

[@ukyoize]

And I belive not having to rely on a remote server. Service as a Software Subsitude is evil.

[@matheus5230]

Or maybe just use your console to play games, because that's what they are optimized for

[@FipsaMan]

About that "switching apps makes them go in suspend mode": Xbox One had Snap Mode and it worked flawlessly. Yes, the usable screen estate was smaller, but we were able to watch YT while playing a game... Why drop that functionality??

[@ninjabus7454]

The Xbox reserving hardware to support snap functionality limited performance on the underpowered base Xbone. Devs asked to override that feature to hit performance targets, and as soon as it was allowed everyone did it.

[@SuperBroChris]

I think the Xbox series X can have 2 processes running but I don't have one to test it. His discord only dropped when he was downloading 2 things.

[@AlexxxxxSaysHi]

Overhead would probably be more manageable these days on the current systems but developers REALLY don't like reserved hardware restrictions and would fight tooth and nail for Microsoft to remove them again. So it'd end up being pointless.

[@theseanski3563]

That takes me back to yelling “Xbox snap party!” at my Kinect even though it was faster to just use the controller lamo.

[@toshiroyamada2443]

I used to use snap to listen to YT while playing minecraft

[@anshgohane2746]

"Yes mom I need it for online classes."

[@anshgohane2746]

@@DemeDemetre Yup, No need for Gaming PC

[@zishan9988]

I have a computer Store in India, one day a kid came with his parents and the specs he showed me were high end and he told his parents he needed it for online classes and for study with a RTX gpu bruh!

[@anshgohane2746]

@@zishan9988 he's in some serious studying

[@Pxradyme]

@@anshgohane2746 he needs to study in 8k obviously

[@anshgohane2746]

@@Pxradyme but the teachers still have goddamn 720p webcam

[@Imaf2020]

I mean... when he crashed the browser with "text twist" he had 35 other tabs open. I think I could crash a decent PC with that many tabs, especially considering how many might be streaming or games.

[@michalvalta5231]

I have a decent PC and 200+ chrome tabs doesn't crash it... I tested it many, many times. That's just how I browse... Sure, it takes up 16+GB of my RAM, but I can still game just fine with 200+ tabs in the background. As long as you have enough RAM, you are good.

[@Test-bi5rg]

Console might have problems. However, a full function PC with enough memory can handle several hundreds of tabs without issue.

[@ClAddict]

My work PC regularly has 350+ tabs open (yay multitasking demands). No sleeping tabs, and everything operates the same as if I had 3 tabs open. Only difference is on startup of Edge it occasionally crashes if you have that many tabs reloading at once. But once it’s up and running and restore recently closed tabs it’s business as usual with those 350+ tabs open across ~6 windows and 15 or so other apps up and running. With the amount I get randomized at work there’s a lot of context switching that has me actively using all those apps and tabs in a typical week, so they’re not usually open just for the sake of being open. Now running VisualStudio.. that can make my PC cry all on its own.

[@fullcircle8231]

Bruh... for $500 I got a console that puts most gaming PC's to shame... and the ones that can perform on par, or slightly better costs well over $1500 to build yourself... let alone if you purchase one already pre-made.

[@alrightey]

@@fullcircle8231 500? u mean the series x or s / ps5 prices that have been nearly tripled due to scalpers?

[@hooky17]

Having experienced the Xbox Dashboard Beta with cloud streaming integration. I'm pretty certain Chromium Edge was ported to enable this functionality rather than the full browser experience (at least as a priority) - I'm sure they'll make changes to improve this

[@visu7135]

About the emulators: Click on the middle of the screen once you go fullscreen. Then it won't interrupt anymore

[@TheMagicalTouch]

Bro, getting discord to run on an xbox would be magical. Especially now that more and more games are becoming cross platform. Would be dope to be able to talk to my friends on discord without having to join the call on my phone and using earbuds to hear and talk to them.

[@Dylanvh]

Playstation will get a Discord App (It has been confirmed)

[@aleksanderzalar1195]

@@Dylanvh yeah it will come in early 2022 but there will surely be some delays so it will probably come in like middle to late 2022 or even 2023

[@TheMagicalTouch]

@@Dylanvh im in xbox tho

[@Dylanvh]

@@TheMagicalTouch Well i know that Discord and Playstation are working together, Discord has said nothing about xbox

[@Juan800PimpBot]

Sony is far more stringent on early release and open development from what I've read. That's why it takes longer for things to be accepted onto their platform.

[@uthmanbaksh3530]

“I have no idea but it’s working” Is what I would be saying a lot in my IT career!

[@inkco420]

I love having English subs enabled, and I LOVE when intro plays and title says "(relaxed atmospheric music)" :D

[@joshuascholar3220]

Now that you've experienced this, Linus, you should consider owning a PC.

[@rachael5099]

🎈🎈kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqHHioGKmNpni68

[@sandeepkark]

Isn’t his daily driver a pc?

[@pareshpadhi2454]

Why would he need another pc? He already got an xbox?

[@ShashankMSuresh]

@@sandeepkark r/whooosh

[@jorceshaman]

@@Varad13Plays Either YOU don't get sarcasm or you're replying to the wrong person.

[@An_aviator]

Linus: *haves multiple tabs opened* Browser: Help..

[@HazelSkies]

I read this as he got the memory fail

[@dangerous1580]

*has

[@mateopalacios9023]

*haves*

[@meechg0stupid110]

Haves is halves. The L is silent.

[@Double-R-Nothing]

"*KILL ME*"

[@Kevin_Heckart]

@3:59 I believe they didn't edit the sound in this and linus naturally can make that impression any time he wants.

[@richm368]

4:45 "What did you do? I have no idea but it's working." Happens to me on discord like once a week at least. Happens to all my friends too.

[@ErikMm5]

the $20 dev mode allows you to access the file system and run full-fat emulators without any edge nonsense

[@JustinThompson]

I think they did a video about that at least as far as the emulator stuff goes.

[@elyascanfixit]

Well thank you good sir

[@tlingitsoldier]

It does and it's great, but emulating through Edge still allows you to use your Xbox normally without having to switch back and forth.

[@sovo1212]

It's outrageous having to pay to use the hardware you already own. And even worse, even in dev mode you don't get full access to the hardware.

[@ErikMm5]

@@sovo1212 beats actually having to be a developer and having to buy a bespoke expensive box, this is extremely progressive competitively speaking

[@MJT-DA]

Linus: has 43 tabs open Ram: *IT BURRRRNNNNS MAKE IT STOOPPP*

[@seankkg]

Right? I feel like it might help performance and testing, lol.

[@39zack]

It just means he do big brain research

[@nikelinq2899]

be glad it's not chrome....

[@SimonBauer7]

@@nikelinq2899 but it is chromium based so it should eat ram just like chrome does maybe it is based on the mobile chrome which does not eat ram for breakfast

[@dread69420]

Unused RAM is wasted RAM. That thing draws the same power.

[@sausagedog52]

In my book, after a company stops selling a game, Piracy and roms/emulation is 100% A-OK, its not like you can buy it anyway

[@Back2Life]

This is what really fucks me off with Nintendo. They have such an amazing history of titles and they shit on people who want to preserve and enjoy these games while also providing ZERO alternative. They're probably one of the most tone deaf companies out there. They could print cash but they choose not to.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

piracy is a right and a deterrent against corporate,besides if your game is good then people who have the money will buy it cause it is more convenient to own something online. Why like mess with people's financial state...

[@Pizzatird]

Reminds me of back in the day when I discovered Sega Dreamcast has a internet connection for a browser

[@anthonydotmoe]

I don’t have an Xbox to confirm this, but I imagine you could repackage the JavaScript n64 emulator with a rom and bios built in yourself and host it on a local web server if you wanted to do it “legally”

[@Vladimir_Kv]

It is possible, Modern Vintage Gamer suggested people do that.

[@davidfodre1375]

At that point just use dev mode lmao

[@arcanegb2662]

@@davidfodre1375 MS just removed Dev Mode. I guess their business partners were pissed off from people emulating 40 year old games on an Xbox.

[@redrush-hp9li]

@@arcanegb2662 No, they dont removed the dev Mode

[@obidahasdia4095]

@@davidfodre1375 i got retroArch for free On Retail mode i play ps1 games on my xbox for completely free! That why i bought xbox over ps5 . Series X cheaper and does more & gamepass. Xbox xbox360/ps3/ps1/ps2/gamecube/stadia/emulations/steam etc On single console for free

[@joncepet]

Madison asked: "Can you use photoshop on Xbox? Microsoft: "Hmm... Nice idea... Maybe soon we will do it."

[@Amorousstake4]

Adobe online

[@barrupa]

Photopea

[@evolicious]

Nah, even the new consoles are not powerful enough for dedicated apps like that. Maybe in 10 years.

[@xthomas7621]

@@evolicious Are you being sarcastic?

[@WayStedYou]

@@evolicious People are literally using weaker hardware to do that with now lmao.

[@xtra729]

They'll likely never optimize consoles to a level of being a fully functional PC, unless they raise the price. They sell consoles at a loss, selling something that's too close to a PC would disrupt the entire market for many of their business partners

[@jtlast9600]

Sony don't sell them at a loss

[@xtra729]

@@jtlast9600 guess the PS5 isn't sold at a loss anymore but it's not a very high profit margin, from what we know it costs $450 to make a ps5 then retailers need to make money too. The principal is the same the money maker is games not the console

[@tonivazquez1081]

Sad thing. Here in Spain Logitech did see that this models ( i think they had the dedicated dongle one and the "harmony" dongle one ) were eating at their sales of wireless keyb+mouse combos. They pulled out both models and returned with only the harmony one at more than double the price.

[@IraQNid]

The funny thing about Chrome OS as being an Internet driven or oriented Operating System is Microsoft was working on that same concept back when the InterNet was still new. Or so the story goes...

[@lejacobo]

ie4 and winme send regards

[@Futura2500]

@@lejacobo Netscape Navigator says hi

[@joeljustin]

Until recently, Microsoft was working on Windows 10X (earlier focused on dual screen devices, but later changed to become a web-os alternative to Chrome OS), but they apparently scrapped the plans.

[@ADMNtek]

Microsoft has worked on a lot of things that never saw the light of day. or where ignored.

[@tacokoneko]

chrome os is a GNU/Linux distro with a funny GUI so actually if you enable developer mode and open a terminal and start typing commands you can install a fully hardware accelerated normal GNU/Linux GUI and then switch between it and the default chrome os UI using Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Arrow keys the tool to do this quickly is called crouton.Technically you can do the same thing with android devices but a lot of proprietary hardware drivers for phones are in Android userspace, while most chromebooks are very similar to normal laptop hardware, so the drivers in the kernel work with normal GNU/Linux userspace drivers. so it much easier in practice to use normal GNU/Linux GUI with a chromebook without reinstalling the entire operating system and have full hardware acceleration, while on my android phone my GNU/Linux chroot cannot access GPU and Linux distros for phones cannot access its GPU either because the proprietary motherboard has not been reverse engineered enough to enable this

[@himbourbanist]

I've been wondering how long it would be before Microsoft fully inserted the Xbox into the PC gaming market as the "super-budget entry level pre-built" system. Hopefully they keep improving this and then just eventually ship Xbox's with a OS that's a stripped down version of Windows

[@ShaiyanHossain]

they'll never do that because it would mean having a device that does multiple functions in one they'd rather just sell you an additional pc/surface instead

[@arnox4554]

"Xbox's with a OS that's a stripped down version of Windows" What do you think this is? In any case, you don't want a console that's trying to be a lamer PC.

[@dennispremoli7950]

unfortunately that won't happen anytime soon, or OEMs would have their heads on a platter.

[@ryanspencer6778]

Xbox needs to be less like an entry level PC, not more. The only reason to get a Series X is if you can afford something more than a Series S but can't afford a basic PC. So by extension, if you already have a PC, then Xbox is completely irrelevant to you.

[@Meatman2042]

@@ryanspencer6778 well I have a nice gaming pc I spent around 1200 on and I got a series s and I love it although I got my Xbox to keep at my moms house because my parents are divorced and now I can play games on my Xbox and then go play my pc at my dads and it will carry over my progression but I also have a very special use case I guess but I love my series a so worth the 300 dollars

[@xjokerx4177]

Linus when you hold the the stat button to play a game on edge you can put on game mode so you can play games With no scrolling

[@ShooterQ]

4:17 Hey man, I was there in 2012 when the Xbox 360 got its first, barely functional Facebook, Netflix, KZbin, and Twitter apps and you needed Xbox Live to access them. I'm impressed.

[@hobbit668]

More and more sense for series S console. It's now kinda a home pc-like mediacenter, which is suitable for a lot of people. It has Browser, Netflix (and others), games, 4k media support. Just for 300 bucks.

[@mauree1618]

Yeah, I'd spring for one instead of something like an Nvidia shield.

[@Hellwyck]

and they're excellent for emulators.

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

@@Hellwyck It's best to use developer mode for emulators vs streaming via the web browser.

[@ananon5771]

>just 300$ thats a lie if you intend to play games online

[@PandaP-]

@@ananon5771 Gamepass is a thing

[@adrianwillis2874]

*runs a major tech company* Alex: what did you do? Linus: I don’t know

[@Kerdtress]

To be fair, this is the Daily life in IT.

[@KlaussMarcellus]

I'm not joking, most Tech related stuff are just like this There was a time I saw a tech worker asking "what version of Windows is that?" when he saw Linux for the first time

[@Giluville]

tech media company

[@CoolModderJaydonX]

I think it's super cool to be able to go from watching a DVD or Blu ray movie to playing Sonic or something to just doing my homework on my Xbox. Plus, now with a Kinect sensor, I can even use it as a webcam on Discord, or even Google Meet for school.

[@brewski535]

Retroarch works great on XSX too btw, it's not the most user friendly but it works ... also PPSSPP works flawlessly, playing GOW on Xbox is great! It's an emulation beast on the quiet.

[@pixytorres7117]

Same, I have a PS5 and I bought a Series S just for emulation and to play old games via backwards compatibility, plus I can play any exclusives they gonna release in the future.

[@thatoneguy6578]

With the current GPU market, this actually makes sense

[@smoketinytom]

@@DemeDemetre I’ll flog my 970 for less…. Hell, I’ve got an “old” PC that I’m selling for £500.

[@musguelha14]

These aren't that easy to get either. At least here. The Series S is readily available though.

[@jonathansoko1085]

You realize that the prices for consoles are just as TERRIBLE as gpus tho right? Paying 1500$ for an xbox makes no sense.

[@PabloJustChillin]

@@jonathansoko1085 hell my friend bought a series s 2 weeks ago for $250

[@-SP.]

@@jonathansoko1085 The series X doesn't go for anywhere near $1500. A scalped one will go for like $750 max, but they aren't even that hard to get unlike the PS5

[@laparngantuk]

_”Can you photoshop on an Xbox?"_ Madison Reeve, ROG Rig Reboot 2018 Yeah, yeah Madison, it's becoming a thing now apparently

[@ShawnMihalek]

They really should have tried opening Photopea to see if it'd run.

[@theacematt2]

Run Rainway on your PC. Works as intended.

[@albertusdeklerk5515]

3:55 this just gets me everytime like i cant stop my self from rewatching

[@itsmehere1]

The one major issue I have with the new browser is that you can't install extensions. And it instantly goes to sleep when leaving to other apps and it can't run in the background.

[@cadechambers4044]

U ever fix it??

[@SMTahmid]

They secured the browser against file access and extensions? Someone learned their lession from jailbreaking of older consoles with those features.

[@-imperatorinsomnia-6163]

And WHEN not if they get rid of this there won't be any liability because they never advertised it as a feature at purchase.

[@Alulaa]

Note that Xbox runs the browser in an isolated VM, not as a part of the main OS + they use recent and actively patched Chromium, not outdated WebKit

[@SMTahmid]

@@-imperatorinsomnia-6163 they won't need to. We've already seen, no file access, no memory buffer overflow and no extensions to change the nature of the web content in the tabs. All 3 have been used before in consoles to run unauthorized code

[@RapzMalmer]

as i just posted you can just emulate it from hosting your own server with your legal rom backups. just add the emulator and roms database load up the URL on xbox n play. That way you have no ads and you can design it to work fullscreen properbly with no scrolling n what not.

[@SMTahmid]

@@RapzMalmer honestly if that can be setup on an android phone, it'll be a killer solution. Start server on your phone, and then just play on the xbox.

[@dumpsterdawg]

Linus: "My big brain immediately broke it" BSOD now stands for "Bigbrain Screen Of Death"

[@boffifis1]

Huh...

[@jpb7425]

Thanks for this State - of - The - Art video, as always. Is it possible to know more about the headset?!

[@madmanorgenius]

I managed to have Xcloud playing on my one x using edge and the pc version. It wasn’t perfect as I had just the controller. Can’t wait till the proper app comes to the last gen.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

One of those classic things that I'll try once and never do it again.

[@DJ_Level_3]

@@DemeDemetre Like Windows Subsystem for Linux*

[@CyberianFaux]

@@DemeDemetre You have obviously never tried an actual good distro for Linux my friend. As a fellow Windows user since before I could speak or read, once I tried Pop_Os I fell in love with it. I personally still use Windows on my personal PC but will be switching permanently once the Wine/Proton updates come out because of the Steam Deck release. Literally, my only hold back is that I cannot play DBD with my friends (although I personally don't enjoy the game and only play it to spend time with them). Linux has come a long way and finding a distro that suits your needs would easily change your mind to respect it as its own thing even if you stick to Windows.

[@christophersholes1377]

@@kiooasiege They aren't talking about waiting for devs supporting Linux fully. Valve is updating Proton massively right now for the Steam Deck and games only need to enable a simple option to allow anti-cheat support for Proton. Likely by the end of the year the support for Linux (through Wine/Proton) will be plenty for the majority of people. In the future if Linux support goes up significantly, due to it having most games working well enough, devs may start to look at native ports more to avoid any future potential Proton/Wine issues.

[@Drxyz-tk6le]

@@kiooasiege I don't get Linux. Why should I switch. Its a lot of work. Huge learning curve to actually be Uber productive. Everything about Linux is trying to be as close to windows as possible and failing miserably at it. Linux doesn't actually has to offer anything new (for a layman like me, who surfs web, does some office work, write pages after pages of word documents, do very basic editing of images, wrangle with spreadsheets and play some games every now and then)... I don't see the appeal of Linux for a user like me. I don't find anything exciting about Linux. My windows is stable. It has never crashed in last 5 years that I have used it. There is lag sometimes but that's when I open Chrome. Once I go Mozilla... The browser doesn't hold my computer down. I don't have the experience with windows for which you guys bash it. So I genuinely curious why should I use Linux?

[@subhadas]

@@Drxyz-tk6le ikr, I've used linux in the past and yeah its good. But I'd choose an OS which is easy to use & does the work. There are some elitist linux fans just try to force people. As for windows, it does the work and easy to use. Mine only crashed when the actual faults were mine. The only use of linux I can see is as a secondary os paired with either MacOs or Win for development purposes.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

"Now Xbox is a PC" It always was, it's just minutely less nerfed than before

[@jsteezus]

They are worried that it would cannabilize their pc sales. They should just sell windows license for like 100 bucks so they still get their windows license money and they can market the xbox as a the all in one gaming and work platform. Advertise it as a kid doing their homework or finishing up a project and then goes to play their xbox games all on the same platform. Even a super nerfed windows version would be appreciated.

[@evolicious]

@@jsteezus fyi, win10 gaming merged with xbox a few years ago. Technically the xbox studio is shrinking to eventually not exist anymore. Don't be surprised in 5 years when xbox and PS don't exist and these companies just sell mini ITX builds, lol. Valve knows the future and they are already making hardware for that future.

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@evolicious I forsee "playstation" and "xbox" becoming essentially just the game publishing wings of their respective companies. The age of the "killer release" that makes people choose your console are dead and gone. It's more profitable to sell on all platforms. And these newest consoles are already basically just itx sized pcs with a custom os, and yes, i agree that trend will continue. The controllers will be the only part they custom design.

[@chillhour6155]

@@evolicious yeah they'll become streaming services

[@arnox4554]

​@@jsteezus OK, guys. This isn't gonna fucking happen. Why? In four words, game and app security. The minute Microsoft opens up the console as a full PC is the minute that others will find ways to break into the console and play backup or pirated copies of games and cheat in games online and offline. Notice how just the browser alone is heavily sandboxed. That isn't an accident or a beta fluke or whatever, and unless Microsoft somehow pulls some magical way out of their ass to allow users to access the full console without compromising security, you can expect that restriction to remain until the end of the XSX's life. With that said, you don't want consoles becoming another PC anyway. That's not where a console's strength lies. You can add media center features to it, sure, but trying to make it like a PC would be a huge mistake for everyone.

[@prefly103]

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[@justinred4404]

I can confirm that you can now run GeForce now on Xbox as of of those date and have been able to play games like Rust and Apex through steam on it now I won’t say it’s amazing but I will say it is tolerable and a great step forward for Xbox and that I love it.

[@needfuldoer4531]

Now console tweens the world over can use the "it does homework too" excuse to convince their parents to buy one, just like their computer friends have for generations.

[@sphrcl.]

I tried and it's really difficult to type because of the on screen keyboard. If I could disable it I would

[@averysbragbook]

I used that excuse on my Mom when I was just knee high to a grasshopper, in the late 80s, to get a NES control deck (deluxe with smb1/duckhunt and a extra controller and the orange zapper). I remember her months later trying to find a compatible keyboard. LMFAO there was never any way to do homework on an NES, I was playing Mega Man 2, chip and dale rescue Rangers, smb1 & 3, It was only that She asked me if I'd do my homework on it before we got it and I simply agreed. Of course it's for games only pretty much. I didn't know. I seen it once at a friend's house and went crazy for it, so did my Sister's. They could have made a keyboard and disk system for it in the Americas, but they didn't.

[@Rguhbuh]

@@sphrcl. you can tho, watch the vid

[@sphrcl.]

@@Rguhbuh how? I only see a setting to turn off the large on screen keyboard, which doesn't turn off the keyboard itself. It's an accessibility setting for vision impaired people so they can have a big keyboard.

[@sphrcl.]

@@averysbragbook lmao

[@hijacked6663]

Eventually someone is gonna port Linux, then the fun begins

[@evolicious]

AMD: No, I don't think I will.........

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@evolicious eh? not themselves, no, but it's an x86 compatible system, so somebody will.

[@lonergothonline]

I'm sure I've seen people with windows 95 running in a web browser. definitely windows 3.1

[@timwilliams1910]

I had Linux on the original Xbox and the 360... Give it time

[@arnox4554]

Not gonna happen until they find a way to access the full hardware without restriction. Which, for the XSX, is very very unlikely.

[@bru-ri5es]

0:04 actually in 2011 Microsoft added support for internet explorer on the xbox 360 so the xbox had a browser before 2014

[@Fire-mk1tq]

lets just admire for a second how many tabs does linus have open in the same time?

[@MV-ow4me]

@Miles Doyle no

[@grn1]

@@MV-ow4me It appears to be a bot. As a believer myself I would never spam Bible verses like this as it only hurts our cause. Then again maybe that's the point of the bot, to be annoying and make Christians look bad (the media and politicians have done a bang of job of it).

[@635574]

I chuckle everytime Stadia works when something else doesn't.

[@potto1488]

Stadia has genuinely been the most reliable platform I've used. Probably something to do with the billions per server room

[@sock7481]

I don't like Stadia. Geforce Now is better since it is free and has that one game that I mostly play.

[@nima20031]

@@sock7481 Stadia is free too

[@sock7481]

@@nima20031 What like one game? You takin a piss or what?

[@potto1488]

@@sock7481 no, you just buy a game on stadia and you can play it whenever, pro membership or not. pro membership is just like gamepass on a smaller scale.

[@DctrGizmo]

I'm sure they'll improve the browser to be more usable. This is a really good staring point though!

[@NazmusLabs]

I used the beta version of this Edge a few months ago on Xbox. I was, Alhamdullillah, able to install extensions and access the file system! Microsoft disabled these through Group policy. I.E., the browser is already capable of doing these things people are hoping for. Microsoft only needs to change their mind and remove the block.

[@samuels.2411]

" This is a really good staring point though!" you realize that they try to sell you a downgraded pc at this point instead of a console, right?

[@samuels.2411]

@Mike Wazozki are ya somehow brain damaged? i didnt say "pc master race" and the rest of your comment is just insulting. ya are hyped for possibilities the consoles bring out that pcs had long ago BUT the consoles are still not as free as a pc. so my statement ya get a downgraded pc is a fact. go and whine if the reality hurts ya, geez.

[@prizmatik8696]

@@samuels.2411 go find a pc that matches these specs for the price then lmao

[@thejuiceisloose4282]

“We’ll let’s play some halo. Wait it’s updating.” Classic

[@martythestines]

Linus and Alex, I just wanted to thank yall about letting me know about that keyboard. Works great with my android TV and my Xbox. Such a huge quality of life thing. If only theyll make that attachable keyboard for the Series X controller.

[@lovedrivindude]

The Xbox one chat pass does work with the series x controller. Unfortunately Microsoft discontinued making it, but I've got 2 that I use

[@drewnewby]

"Why am I beating up this small child? Wait, she has a burger." Best Out Of Context Comment 2021.

[@NeoVejiita]

The browser stuff is pretty cool. As far as emulation though you’re better off just running retroarch :)

[@totallynotaliar9912]

Im pretty sure it's appealing because you don't have to run the Xbox in developer mode (which stops it from running your normal retail games).

[@Retro_Gamer_89]

Fact 🎯

[@kobeandgary]

@@totallynotaliar9912 only takes a minute to switch back and forth between dev mode lol.

[@s41f1ty]

@@kobeandgary there's a guy called gamr13 who let's u run retroarch for free on retail mode

[@Retro_Gamer_89]

@@kobeandgary For me It's like 30 secs LMFAO

[@JamesDean-zx4uw]

I was wondering, are you able to "right click" like on a normal computer when on chrome you can inspect the codes, is this available on xbox

[@dynamitestyle8678]

I've had a mouse and keyboard for my Xbox for a few years now and I'm so happy that this is a feature now.

[@Fusion05]

I think they have disabled the ability to keep browsers awake due to the one and one s only having 8gb of ram. The series s has 10, the one X had 12, and the series X has 16. So maybe they’ll figure out a way to do it without taking up too much ram

[@alasdair_cooper]

They restrict the amount of ram on all the consoles. It's not like PC where apps can use all the available RAM. For example, Series X has 16GB total, 10GB for games, 2.5GB system and 3.5GB for apps and games. This means games can use up to 13.5GB but doing so will suspend the app. You can see this because some games will kill apps while others do not.

[@sovo1212]

@@alasdair_cooper Are you sure? It's a mistake to reserve that amount of memory for other than games. The console should free all memory once a game is booted.

[@Kristibek]

Fun fact: GeForce Now recently dropped support for Microsoft Edge specifically because Edge is on Xbox.

[@Gramini]

Why would they do that? That sounds stupid and anti-consumer.

[@ryhanzfx1641]

Why the hell do they do that? Screw that

[@ABaumstumpf]

"specifically because Edge is on Xbox." - yeah, no.

[@Raizio]

Source?

[@ABaumstumpf]

@TDFPL So - just empty claims and no source... as always with the haters and fanboys.

[@declanmullen3907]

Oh neat I have the same keyboard, good to know it’s up to Linus chill specs

[@markix124]

11:59 Well you see, microsoft used to have a file explorer on Xbox which allowed you to OOTB, browse through a "user folder-like" folder and save files to that folder. With third party apps, it allowed you to access the hidden game files, allowing modding. Microsoft then - in their infinite wisdom - removed file explorer completely.

[@JoeTaks]

I've successfully used Quarrel on my Series X a bunch of times. Never had the infinite spinning.

[@owl_precision6654]

Bro same but mic doesnt work like i can hear people but they cant hear me

[@JoeTaks]

@@owl_precision6654 never had that problem

[@88heiling]

@ImNotBlackImOg The Xbox Series X has better and more powerful CPU and GPU, it's more quiet, it's smaller than the literal crap called PS5 and has actually next gen-features like QuickResume, Auto HDR, FPS Boost for BC games, Bigger storage space, better games, can do 1440P unlike (PoS5), has lightyears better game subscription service than CrapStation 5 and it can actually do 4K with 60FPS/120FPS and last but least XSX’s SDD is waaaay faster than the Ponystation 5’s glorified HDD.

[@Harzberg]

@@88heiling The Playstation 5 has no HDD

[@paradox_monke7338]

@@88heiling Okay, but you have no reason to call PS5 a crap device, they are both good and it’s people preferences to choose what they want, you are saying that cause you are a lazy guy sitting at home not doing anything while those PS or Xbox engineer is gaining money.

[@dumpsterdawg]

Is it just me or did Linus' voice get deeper at 3:54

[@frenzoneguy3227]

I hear it throughout most of the video. There's like an undertone of satan in his voice.

[@pablojp3498]

😂😂

[@hank9th]

PWAs could be really interesting on Xbox. Installing an Edge-based webapps as standalone Xbox apps (assuming proper background multitasking support) seems like a fairly polished way to get some awesome functionality.

[@charlesgibbo2971]

Quarrel does work... It just needs a lot of troubleshooting and patience

[@MonzaniaStrike]

Imma use that when I forget my physics homework. “I have a finite amount of memory sir”

[@Waloo]

I remember using my Wii U as my daily driver PC for a week while my PC was in the shop. Completely usable thanks to the gamepad. I even used a Wii to read my e-mails a few years before that.

[@shoeskode136]

00:1 theres so many tabs open that i dont even think the sbox would handle it

[@locolyric]

it still need improvement, but until now the on screen keyboard still exist when using external keyboard.

[@Dswope87]

I remember when I used to get online in the 90's and stumble on the file structure of many servers.

[@mickeysgun]

The amount of tabs open at the start of this video is giving me anxiety

[@killagamez4619]

Press window key twice to remove onscreen keyboard. Need to do it every time you click on text box

[@nitroxylictv]

I used to browse the internet on PS3 with the built in web browser. That is how I downloaded all of my sick backgrounds to set as my XMB wallpaper. KZbin still runs on the PS3 web browser, but most of the newer sites will not load at all. Its kind of in a limbo state of being on its last leg and functioning just fine. My guess is that in about 5-10 years the PS3 web browser will no longer be able to open any websites as they will all move to newer versions and eventually Google wont open on it. Its still fun to open it and look at a PS5 through the PlayStation website on a PS3.

[@raccube]

You can bring your own ROMs for emulation. You just need to host the emulator yourself... which you could do on your PC, or a Raspberry Pi or something

[@nanopi]

A smartphone could host the web pages and game files.

[@sovo1212]

It's still a hassle to depend on a second device, because it has the muscle to make everything by itself. Just not worth it, definitely it's not a PC as the title video says.

[@Lily-bn3ce]

i was so shocked when he said runescape, i am literally playing oldschool runescape right now!! lol

[@CrossUnity]

Just use dev mode

[@offthegrid4821]

Microsoft: makes the new *surface* laptops also Microsoft: makes *Xbox* a pc

[@TheLongDon]

@@DemeDemetre Wtf are you talking about? They are learning from their mistakes as we speak. During 360 they denied crossplay, the one launched and they had all these stupid security features that nobody liked, driving everybody to PlayStation. Now they're realizing that they need to create a unique market for themselves, so they're cutting out a cheap, subscription based pc, essentially. Hell of a lot better than their attitudes at the launch of the One

[@TheLongDon]

@@DemeDemetre I mean not really though, not as far as I can see. Windows 8 was built almost exclusively for tablets, it had this annoying ass tendency to start you in tablet mode all the time. It was also just in general set up terribly, almost nobody upgraded to 8. 11 actually looks OK, I didn't see these issues in it Edit: I might be wrong though, just lmk, because I genuinely haven't seen any personal issues with it

[@MixedVictor]

@@DemeDemetre windows vista* (windows 8 just had an messy ui but i still liked it)

[@NiSE_Rafter]

@@DemeDemetre how is that even a comparison? It'd be more like his car has poor ergonomics and few comfort features, but it runs and drives so it gets to job done.

[@DinahPanther]

Dude even the Dreamcast had a browser back in the day. Built in dialup too lol

[@issa2huncho]

i think the mic stops working when you go to other applications on the xbox if you want to use the mic all the time when your in discord in xbox you have to stay on microstof edge

[@j.d.8593]

Linus and Alex: *"Look how awesome this is!"* My OCD going crazy: *"WHY DO YOU MORONS HAVE SO MANY TABS OPEN?!?!!!"* 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@darwisyaiman1865]

I wonder why they do that even my family do that🤣

[@rahulakastardust]

ikr... it was driving me crazy the whole time

[@CrimsonFKR]

@@DemeDemetre yeah...testing my fucking patience lol XD

[@verticiant3501]

thats not what ocd is

[@Darenz-cg9zg]

OMG MY OCD PAISHSHSHUZUUSUDDJDJDNALDIDHDUS PAY ATTENTION TO ME I SELF DIAGNOSED OCD

[@derisis13]

Fun fact: if you install Kodi, it has a built-in python interpreter. I haven't tested it, but I assume it has at least basic functionality. So yeah, you can even run your own code on Xbox...

[@gagasamukti3399]

I mean Online C, Cpp even java web compiler and editor is exist

[@nobody4821]

You can just pay like $30 and enable developer mode with any system. And it's all legit. Even emulate. Hell you can emulate in this browser.

[@atharaxndx]

I sense a disturbance in the force

[@mezron5k]

I've had the Logitech K400r on my HTPC for almost 8 years now. It's a game changer and allow you to pay zero dollars for cable subs to boot.

[@senor.molina]

at 3:30 I remembered that time that I had to use my Xbox One to finish a group work for University because my notebook died lol, ended up working alright lol

[@LonelySandwich]

Everybody: Xbox is now a pc. Me: why is Linus using bing.

[@user-hq7fg2mk5x]

its the default searchengine on Microsoft edge

[@ABaumstumpf]

And it does have some benefits - it is still doing a bit less censoring than google is.

[@theresapimentacointheglove8760]

​@@ABaumstumpf Yeah, the same reason I use Bing. I also got the 1tb storage expansion card for the Series X for free by collecting Bing points and using it for Microsoft gift cards.

[@mrtechie6810]

@@ABaumstumpf DuckDuckGo

[@Fee.1]

Wait so you have to install windows ? Or how does that work?

[@samuelenurra6418]

9:46 Linus: "I have no idea what kind of things I'm filling out here" Me, an italian: "Haha yes normal eyes small nose"

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[@KingJerbear]

I use a similar Logitech keyboard/touchpad combo when we watch Netflix or whatever in bed, super convenient instead of having to get up and messing with the laptop.

[@bradleybrewer9576]

I am holding the same keybord you got in the start of the video I love how it has a builtin laptop mouse touch pad I have used that to make my laptops into desktops by pluging them into my big HD Tv.