Who Would be Stupid Enough to Buy a $1000 Game Console on Aliexpress?

[@FARBerserker]

i like how proud plouffe was about finding something linus could not immediately open.

[@hank-ey3mz]

ok

[@midwestpotato]

@@hank-ey3mzok

[@bones0013]

​@@hank-ey3mz ok

[@hohohodrigues]

@@hank-ey3mz ok

[@DijDoj]

Linus can open anything immediately if he drops it fast enough

[@infin1ty850]

If anyone is seriously unaware, the retro gaming hardware coming out of China for the last several years has been insane. The massive competition has basically come to handhelds that can play almost every system if you get the right device.

[@VEVOPalsu]

Any website that have recommended console from China?

[@Bob_Smith19]

Almost every system is a bold overstatement. You need something like the Aya Neo for that. The “cheap” handhelds all of limitations. And they’ve been stagnant for years now. They haven’t started using better CPUs and the Mail GPUs are pretty weak.

[@lolight2]

@@VEVOPalsu Watch videos from retro game corps, he delves into each console and its features so you can pick what fits you best :)

[@infin1ty850]

@@Bob_Smith19 Yeah, that is totally my fault for making that claim. Not even counting my Steam Deck, I have multiple "retro" handhelds. I honestly wouldn't try to emulate anything from XB360 or beyond.

[@youtubasoarus]

And the beneficiary of this? everyone! 👍

[@kyleowens9344]

The thing I like about Linus is that at first introduction, he looks like the kind of guy that gets insecure, jealous, demanding etc but puts on a front for the camera... but with time, video after video, you realize he's not that guy at all. He's genuinely having fun and works well with his team. He also doesn't absolutely need the spotlight. He shares willingly. Will continue to watch him!

[@paran0ia7]

Definitely feels like a "hey, we scored a couple cartons of gamer-y looking units from an HTPC company that went under for almost nothing, let's just load them up with illegal software and see how much we can sell them for" situation. Not the worst plan ever, to be fair, and if a couple other content-creators get curious enough to bite then it might even turn a profit if they invested little enough in the packaging and such.

[@franktothemax]

Definitely read this in Linusvoice. Spot on my man.

[@Nitidus]

I really don't think Chinese companies are putting up random products onto AliExpress expecting _content creators_ to feature them, lol. Look at the price. They were going for some oblivious Westerner buying one of those once in a blue moon (for a special Western price) and already the other 99 in stock are made up for so they won't lose any money. Each additional sale means big, fat profit.

[@HaralHeisto]

@@Nitidus They also do dynamic pricing - Someone bought one? Put the price up 10%. If it sells again, repeat. If it doesn't sell for a few days, drop the price back down again. If a few youtubers in a row buy these things with sponsor money they can very quickly get up to silly prices. Give it a month and this'll be back at $500

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

@@HaralHeisto I mean you can buy them at that without the emulator OS, If you wanted to spend $1000 with more powerful hardware instead of 120k games it's offered with an i9 10885H and an RTX 2060 at $1000 at the max config of 32gb of RAM and a 2tb SSD. I found same spec as their hardware for under $600

[@HaralHeisto]

@@AmaraTheBarbarian Yes, but I'm referring to individual listings, not these packaged emulator boxes as a category. This particular one is at $1000 because people bought it a few times. It'll drop in price again once the youtubers stop buying them. Whoever listed it has a pallet of them, they're not in any great hurry to sell and want the most profit per unit they can get, but they won't hold at a price that doesn't sell any units

[@itsmebougie]

The fact that Linus is having fun is a testament

[@FlameMage2]

A testament to RetroArch, NHL 94', Marble Madness, Power Stone, JSRF, and Tekken.

[@jeffsorrows]

Lol save money! your phone and a bluetooth controller can have something like AetherSX2 for PS2 games, but any decent computer can run xbox, ps2 and pretty sure ps3 emulators are out there. Use to run mario party/kart off my macbook to just connect to anyones tv and play games, most emus have 2 player support and a lot have 4+, the newer ones even have internet connectivity so you could run multiple screens off of different computers!

[@ultimateearrapechannel31]

very expensive way to have fun😂😂

[@ixinor]

@@jeffsorrows Exactly - you can easily get all the ROMs by simply googling.

[@fatimapalacios2292]

idk I have a $200 xiaomi phone that can run all of these games. No need to spend a grand in this.

[@PhantomCrossStudios]

The fact that you could choose any game on the Dreamcast that was iconic, like Sonic Adventures, or even Crazy Taxi, but you chose Power Stone, has made me very happy

[@georgemcnaughton8238]

great game, though i liked 2 better

[@paperman9708]

If you like dreamcast a lot maybe get an abernic handheld and have at it.

[@HolySpiritIsSatanOfSinDethHell]

If you choose Jesus and obey the new testament and learn from the old testament would make God very happy!

[@mikeg7411]

​@@HolySpiritIsSatanOfSinDethHellor use ur God given ability to do research and form ur own ideas and opinions. Blindly following the writing's of a group of ppl that didn't understand where the sun goes at night is probably not the best idea

[@HolySpiritIsSatanOfSinDethHell]

@@mikeg7411 Why wouldn't I follow the bible? It teaches great things. Did you read the entire Bible?

[@MetalMan1245]

Linus' strategy of not "endorsing" piracy but showing off stuff like this is amazing.

[@Espen.Johannesen]

Alexi bexi

[@MasterDragonPaladin]

Yeah it's funny and great at the same time

[@MrLarsgren]

we have all visited the dark side at one point XD

[@Toowavycrew]

#empress #re4 #may2023 #fuckdenuvo

[@samuelbankston2108]

As someone who's looking for a box I appreciate it lol

[@DaLoveDonkey69420]

I'd totally watch a complete live stream of poor couch companionship and a play-thru of a ton of these games.

[@hank-ey3mz]

how old are u?

[@Marynicole830]

@@hank-ey3mz lol what does that have to do with anything they said.? I’d love to watch a play through of some of these games too.

[@DaLoveDonkey69420]

@@hank-ey3mz Not gonna lie here Hank, kind of weird to ask that of a stranger especially when it doesn't fit the context lmao. I'm around Linus's age and happen to like emulators and retro games(ff3/6 is my favorite). So my comment seems pretty fitting on this video, your's however 😅

[@hank-ey3mz]

@@DaLoveDonkey69420 ok. Mike O'hearn is watching

[@GameTimeWhy]

​@@hank-ey3mz how old are you?

[@0phylum0sinter0]

You can find these at import shops all over the place, but not usually at this price. I think the highest i've seen was around $500 (in S.E. Michigan). A friend bought one that came with the complete library + Neo Geo CD library. Used a regular Neo Geo Case + 2 of the original huge ass controllers for $200 a few years ago. We never cracked it open but presumed it was using a raspberry pi inside and a sdcard for memory.

[@janemba42]

Not only do PS2 controllers have analog face buttons, they have inbuilt calibration firmware for the joysticks. They almost never got stick drift because any drift was calibrated for every time the controller powers on. That's why sometimes you would have to wiggle the sticks around for them to be centered properly.

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

looks like that one video about stick drift was on a ton of peoples front pages/suggestions

[@janemba42]

@@Knaeckebrotsaege I find it odd Linus didn't mention anything about it specifically because I remember him explaining it in a video. I think the one about the replacement hall effect joysticks for the steamdeck.

[@davidgoodnow269]

Nice info!

[@no_nameyouknow]

I had no idea they were analog. I owned a PS2 for years too.

[@AndrewTSq]

@@no_nameyouknow it was a big thing on launch that the buttons was analog, but I think all buttons were analog (or rather pressure sensitive)? also the x o square etc. not just the front facing ones

[@_l3rN]

It actually having that many games on one of these preloaded rom stations is the biggest plot twist of all time.

[@scottcol23]

And that it is not just 200 games repeated 10 thousand times. I got one of those PowKitty x70 handheld consoles for $30 that looks similar a switch off amazon once that stated 100k games and it was at best 400 games. The arcade and retro console emulation was great though. and since all the emulators were set up with all the correct bios files, adding the roms you want was very easy. That got me back into retro gaming and I ended up with the Retroid Pocket 2 when it came out and love it.

[@ixinor]

A simple google search and you can easily get the same amount of ROMs.

[@Infyra]

@@scottcol23 I guess it depends where you buy it, I got a powkiddy and it actually came with a good selection of games from the nes to psp era, just not the 70s atari and arcade collections of 50k+ games that fill up most of these.

[@AMMAZZARE]

I’m guessing you’ve never purchased a Pi or a Super Console X? They always have that many games and very few of them are repeats.

[@TheVirtualObserver]

Ikr? While most of them are probably garbage, it's really cool they were able to pack that many retro games into a single cohesive package.

[@KingGameReview]

If this thing was like $100-$200, I'd consider an emulator box preloaded with stuff. It would save time/effort getting retroarch set up and everything downloaded on something. But $1k is nuts. JSRF is one of my favorite games of all time, and this seems to run it pretty well. I think this is a decent product, but the price is just too high.

[@aarondumas1629]

I'm guessing it should had been some kind of "powerfull" laptop repurpused like Linus stated in the beginning. Its 8core CPU with 8GB of RAM and what looks like to be a 1650 mobile chip (not an external VGA card by the looks of box internals) clearly wasn't made specially for it like the chassis and MAYBE some of the ports. Decent or not, yesterday i was helping a friend that bought one of these chinese streaming boxes only to reporpuse it as a mini linux/android/retroarch console and, need to say, for 50 bucks plus a 128GB good SD card and a good controller (i never tire to recomend 8bitdo BT ones for ANY kind of use), it's pretty impressive what that 100x100x20mm piece of plastic of him can do, but still it can't go much further than Dreamcast... MAYBE some Game Cube that used to have some easyer to code apps than PS2 and OG Xbox that shared the market with it in the 6th gen. Considering that, if i want to repurpose the PC i'm using right now as one of these "multy system emulation rigs", i would be able to pir... play almost anything, from ATARI to Switch, but at the cost of, don't know, maybe 1000 bucks instead of just ~100 this friend spent since it is a pretty new hardware, so maybe the trick is how far you wanna go with the system.

[@LegitimateBusinessPerson]

Yeah this reminds me of Action 52 and not in a good way lol

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

it like the chinese car priced above a phord modeo but scored 0 in euro ncap. good job. china doesnt know crap about the world or marketing or anything at all LmCocqingAo. :P

[@Thefuror38500]

A 9980H and 1650 for 100-200$, you are dreaming my friend, it is not happening.

[@KingGameReview]

@@Thefuror38500 I mean, they'll be that price eventually.

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

The only thing actually bad about it is the price IMHO. HW seems decent, plus you could replace things like the miniscule RAM and junk tier SSD. Could've been all soldered and non-replaceable but they gave you actual slots

[@RFTL]

It looks like a Chatreey Mini Pc wich cost about half of this thing.

[@Yutoferrer1]

Actually they got scammed. I found the same pc with 10th gen and 2060 for 600 bucks. For u guys living in america or Europe is not a good deal but for the rest of the world in countries with inflation and costumers losing they financial power with this is a hidden gem.

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

@@Yutoferrer1 You're saying that as if inflation and everything getting more expensive in general wasn't a thing here lol

[@sedixmrboss5625]

@@Knaeckebrotsaege I think it's worse where he is from. Inflation is deff. a thing, but we haven't lost much buying power. (from Ro, it can't be worse in the Euro space...)

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

@@sedixmrboss5625 Yeah we only lose buying power on things that are necessary to live like food, shelter, and medical care, but if you want consumer electronics you're in luck. And as Yuri said, the same PC is offered at a wide variety of price points with the $1000 price tag you could get a 10th gen i9, a 2060, 32gb RAM, and a 2tb SSD. I'd almost accuse them of looking for the worst possible price on the machine, because when I look up gaming PC this thing is on the list at $1k but with much better specs, and if I look for Mini PC the first one of these that comes up is like $500 (no storage or RAM)

[@attackracer]

The i9-9880h is an actual cpu model from intel, commonly found in the 16" 2019 macbook pro (Basically a lower clocked 9980hk). They actually gave you a better cpu than advertised!

[@skydivenext]

Oh thanks! I DO NOT CARE

[@trc7343]

@@skydivenext i do?

[@kartavyapandey3888]

I do as well

[@Sai_Anide]

@@skydivenext you clearly do since you commented.

[@skydivenext]

@@Sai_Anide no I don't ever read it

[@LEGIONART-]

This is what you call game preservation by those who did this console. You can just play all old title and dont have to do some sketchy stuff yourself to play everything. Love it.

[@iPhone3GS_68]

I’ve obtained consoles for 30 dollars that do as much as this can do

[@thangtrinh3237]

@@iPhone3GS_68 no i don't think so lol, that's a full fledge windows computer.

[@melvinfeenstra7037]

@@thangtrinh3237 not even close to worth 1000. totaly garbage outdated hardware. and everything is pirated...

[@iPhone3GS_68]

@@thangtrinh3237 true but this things target audience doesn’t care about the parts they want the games and you can get those games on really cheap consoles

[@animeloveer97]

​@@thangtrinh3237you could do this stuff on an old windows 7 laptop for around 30$ tbh lol

[@Katsuchiyo]

These seems to be spare Chatreey mini PCs they used to sell last year for 500-800 bucks equipped with either GTX 1650 or RTX 2060, pretty good value back then.

[@NiTRoSVK]

these were sold under various names, I remember Nvisen for instance, all with the same design and GTX 1650, cpus were 8th gen i5/i7/i9... and yeah you could have found them "on sale" very frequently for less than 600 bucks... no way I would pay 1000 bucks for this one today

[@steveblixt9437]

I love it when Linus is ecstatic that Marble Madness can accommodate four players and Plouffe says, "You need to buy more friends." LOL.

[@tyson31415]

I'd play Marble Madness for free with anybody. I loved that game. The Amiga version was vastly superior.

[@uiqthorr]

​@@tyson31415 The Amiga was vastly superior... Let the flame wars begin!!

[@handlmycck]

its a reference to 9:05

[@paultapping9510]

amazing, I really wanted to know more about this one! Browsing weird silly tech on aliexpress is lowkey a hobby of mine.

[@justbubba4373]

They are using surplus laptop components on "allegedly custom" motherboards. They used to use custom motherboards with actual pcie slots so they could use half-height gpus in the bottom of the case, but they have ~evolved~ thanks to the surplus of older generation laptop parts since they have practically reached EOL. You can even buy a blank laptop cpu, just a whole straight up BGA cpu package, anything from like 8th gen to 10th gen, from aliexpress or really any other chinese parts marketplace.

[@Seikushim0]

So you could easily buy those and some more parts, 3D print a case and get one better and cheaper?! For a "console" that you can just carry around easily its pretty good.

[@metal_brrr_2005]

These were probably mining crypto?

[@GreenCinco12Official]

@@metal_brrr_2005 CPUs? Probably not. Don't think that was worth it at any point in time.

[@caboose9843]

@@GreenCinco12Official definitely not, too much power draw for not enough output

[@conorstewart2214]

@@Seikushim0 You would have to buy just a surplus laptop motherboard with CPU already on it unless you are comfortable soldering CPUs (they tend to not have sockets like desktop motherboards), also in a lot of cheap laptops the RAM and storage may be soldered too but you could maybe find higher end parts cheap. Or you could just buy a mini PC or build a computer normally. Or maybe the easiest option is just to get someones old or broken laptop and take the internals out.

[@GaviLazan]

On Aliexpress the pricing often will change based on the warehouse/destination, so it might be more competitively priced when shipping to China.

[@Under-Kaoz]

If you claim to hate slavery, pollution, global warming and war. Stop sending China money.

[@thementor9249]

Aliexpress doesn't ship to mainland China, only to Hongkong.

[@GaviLazan]

@thementor9249 Taobao, whatever, same site.

[@Spliffstar26]

Holy Shit. I've not visited your channel in a good while (sold my PC & brought console) clicked on to watch this and you have over 15 million subscribers, you didn't even have a million when I fist subbed. Congratulations you're smashing it

[@Psilocybin77]

she's mashing it

[@NOGRIZZGUY]

I would actually love to see some comparisons to other options. Like Plouffe said at 1-200$ it could be interesting

[@ulasht1]

etsy

[@Onewheelordeal]

That's it's price on the bezos site

[@fh5kskalf]

Miyoo Mini Plus is the best device I've ever bought, it's just $80 bucks.

[@mcslender2965]

Even better, just clone the entire Linux partition and you can have all the games in your own PC

[@loganrunnells2644]

A really good one you can get is one of the Anbernic devices. Great performance and an aluminum shell for around 200 dollars,

[@muhamedozegovic6617]

5:16 "let happiness come faster" one of the best jokes on LTT so far 🤣

[@freeman2399]

my local Asian spa has that as their logo.

[@tatecheddar]

They sell 50 dollar handhelds with literally almost the same library.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

the fact that the only Xbox game they packed is the one Xbox game everyone wants to buy legally is a stroke of genius

[@animeloveer97]

Imma be real I don't know anyone who played that game lol

[@Artista_Frustrado]

@@animeloveer97 exactly! that's why everyone wants it legally

[@themillen6460]

Last time I was this early, I was on a ventilator for a week...

[@L33tSkE3t]

Well, we’re glad you’re okay now lol

[@mattheww.2386]

Time for round two, colonoscopy showdown!

[@TheTNTPVP]

​@@L33tSkE3t well they didn't say that they were okay right now, but I'm assuming you're right, and I'm glad that they're likely doing well

[@ItsReallyGeo]

jeeeeeeeez

[@brandonwhittle6762]

Well all you gotta do is take you're vitamin heroin problem solved

[@MrBusdriver-VoidlessMedia]

I feel like it’s entirely reasonable to pirate systems that no longer sell games. I don’t think Nintendo is loosing any money when I grab a rom of Pokémon platinum instead of me getting it off eBay for $100

[@aomanexus4861]

Thinking back to small computers, something I hope to someday see is graphics cards that are smaller, use low power, but have a great performance

[@essaarif7941]

Remember the r9 fury nano ? That shit packed a punch for its small size

[@SkysTrains]

a2000 and new ada a4000 are very powerful at 70 watts

[@joemarais7683]

The 4080 could have been the size of a 2080ti. AIBs have already done the math and figured out people will spend extra for a giant gpu, to the point that it’s more profitable to have your gpus be 350mm. We’ll never get smaller gpus again.

[@girrrrrrr2]

They should re release old cards using new tech to make super efficient mini cards. Like I'd take a 2090 mini

[@chronossage]

​@@joemarais7683 I mean bigger is better right?

[@caiocc12]

My experience with these retro consoles is that they are usually very underspec'ed for everything but 16-bit games. It is nice seeing Dreamcast, XBox, running so smoothly.

[@workingmanbh]

Because it's not an arm emulation device, it's a fairly powerful pc...

[@udance4ever]

it would be nice to see how this system does w ps3

[@dialectish]

@@udance4ever I played a decent amount of emulated PS3 on a 1050ti laptop, I think it will be fine.

[@udance4ever]

@@dialectish I do have a handful of titles working on an old 2015 MBP so I figure it this works on something even the devs question, anything else has gotta be up 😅

[@alexandermason-sx2og]

Fun fact- Tekken 5 there was actually running at the resolution it would have on the original PS2, but it just looks like double-bagged tiger whoopsies when you scale it to 4K. Also when you have no CRT.

[@somecringeuwu3928]

I’ve had one of these! It died within a few months, I think it was either ram, the ssd failing or maybe even the graphics card failing as one of the capacitors blew up, it was about £560/$600 so paying $1000 was definitely a scam if it already wasn’t

[@parrishharris3008]

I totally agree with you

[@mariustanasoaie1147]

Still have mine, been using it since 2020, I think I paid like 500 Eur for a barebone and fitted it with my own ram and storage!

[@somecringeuwu3928]

@@mariustanasoaie1147 holy moly! As long as it works I’m betting it’s been pretty good!

[@somecringeuwu3928]

@penileymajorey7174 people who don’t know any better, rich parents who can just waste money on this kind of stuff or even businesses who need a good system and think it might be good as a mini arcade rig or something, there’s a ton of reasons why someone might buy it, but they shouldn’t. The fact is some people just don’t know

[@Slide100]

$1000, but didn’t I see a $3 coupon offer? Totally worth it, then. 🙂

[@jj8818]

This is actuallly pretty great! The price is prohibitive, but the library is massive and you get access to a lot of great games that are hard to find. And it has a good compact size.

[@aarondumas1629]

"Hard to find" with lots and lots of quotes... It's 2023; internet could be turned into a damn big ad bitch full of idiots, but it still keep being a great archive for any byte already in some kind of storage worldwide. You just need to know where and how to look.

[@MPaz-ART]

they are not this hard to find and BTW at least 70% of those you maybe will never play and 40 % of those are trash, i mean those +/- 30% really enjoyable fun retro games most people will play are not hard to find

[@HydraCFW]

Better to just buy a hard drive with thousands of games preloaded saves you time and money

[@TheMellowGrenade]

@@MPaz-ART Yup. That's been my experience with every collection of Rom's I've ever downloaded. Nothing to suggest this would be any different.

[@ringring8938]

@@HydraCFW lol, Linuxguy buy it. Clearly wants to produce content with it. You're just salty you couldn't afford what they could for 1000 bucks.

[@hurtpilot]

Linus is single-handedly keeping Ali Express afloat

[@politiksman6935]

sure buddy sure

[@Insectoid_]

@@politiksman6935 it’s utter garbage. I don’t know how they stay afloat lol

[@animeloveer97]

​@@Insectoid_ cheap and easily accessible unfortunately

[@xelm_]

i love aliexpress.. i buy stuff from them all the time.

[@CodexSan]

You certainly don't live anywhere in the third world then. Tô be saying something so utterly stupid.

[@fudgepuppy91]

PS2 also had pressure sensitive triggers and bumpers, along with the pressure sensitive face buttons. They were analog, but more based on how hard you pressed down on them, rather than analog triggers like with the Xbox and Gamecube.

[@maikelfeskens9322]

Not how hard you press them, but how far.

[@thiagoelav633]

i sure believed that as a kid and was playing a fight game

[@PatrickThomasBrady]

@Mr Smith every button was pressure sensitive/analog on the DualShock 2 including the directional buttons except for start, select, analog, r3, and l3 and they carried that over to the DualShock 3 but with actual triggers

[@QruisS]

​@mrsmith9597iirc grand turismo did but dont quote me on it

[@PatrickThomasBrady]

@Mr Smith I didn’t say they were used, just that the functions there, I remember gta, mgs, and ace combat and racing games used the pressure sensitivity to some extent, can’t remember if the shoulder buttons pressure sensitivity were used tho

[@EpicNamejpg]

You can literally emulate all those games in a potato for free💀

[@kylespevak6781]

Gotta buy the potato

[@nepp-]

finding all those games to load onto the device had to be a nightmare…props to those guys

[@Onewheelordeal]

Nope they're already pre collected into single zip files

[@mirshia5248]

@@Onewheelordeal where

[@Onewheelordeal]

​​​@@mirshia5248 have you honestly never googled for ROMs or are you entirely unfamiliar with emulators? Back when I got a 2DS to use as an emulator I believe I used a torrent to get entire console libraries but like Linus mentioned it's only realistic for consoles with small file sized games

[@Darkest_matter]

@@Onewheelordeal where can i find the entire game library of a console that isn't over 300gb

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

@@Darkest_matter Everywhere. The total file size for all N64 games - including all Japanese, European and American versions? 15.4 gb.

[@ianzimmer1990]

The PS2 DID have analog face buttons. people don't often give credit for how big a deal this was

[@geoffdb8118]

I thought he was joking .. how were these used in games??

[@ZarniwoopVannHarl]

@@geoffdb8118 Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 made use of them - for instance, pressing the button hard in CQC while you have a guard in a choke would kill them, but pressing it softly would just knock them out. Another example is if you press the aim button lightly you just aim (which you can use to hold guards up), but pressing it hard aims and fires immediately. A lot of games with car controls (some of the Burnout ones, some GTA's as well I think) also just used to control acceleration - press harder, go faster.

[@toomanycactus3138]

Great video. Didn’t expect to watch all of it but had me cracking up. Love y’all’s whit!

[@ghomerhust]

i kinda dig this. it's legit decent hardware, has a decent looking package, and is pre-set-up for plug and play.

[@DoctorNemmo]

But not for $1000.

[@admiralkaede]

lol legit

[@YousefMohamedAbdulMoniem]

very shit for $1000

[@volvo09]

Yeah, the UI isn't completely trash. It's the massive collection of roms from all these generations of consoles and computers that makes it cool.

[@LordDragox412]

@@DoctorNemmo You can get it for half the price or even lower. A fool and their money are easily parted :P

[@defiantgg1831]

the fact it had an actual i9 was really surprising even at 1k$

[@DALINKUP]

facts , you'd think it would be a dodgy unknown processor . So really it's for people who have no clue about Emulators . As loading over 100,000 games would take some time to do even tho it's still way to expensive .

[@Nebujin383]

@@DALINKUP from those 100k, at least 95k are rom hacks/clones anyway. Someone told me he has a collection of 4k games, and that it covers everything up to & including PS2/Xbox 1/Dreamcast/Wii (at least if you exclude multiplatform titles, and go for console exclusives only).

[@MoonOvIce]

@@Nebujin383 On my PC, I "backed up" PS2 games, Xbox, 360, PS3, Dreamcast, Gamecube/Wii, WiiU, Switch and then also all the older classics from the PS1 and back. All spread throughout 2tb HDD, 1tb SSD and a couple over a 500gb SSD. I don't have all the ones ever made or anything, just a good collection of great games. And yes, except the really old ones, I actually own the great majority of them, but I emulate them on 4K with better settings and often (such as PS3 and 360) better/unlocked fps.

[@animeloveer97]

​@@MoonOvIce right lol

[@mattd5240]

It's a ninth gen i9 so it's not a modern chip.

[@exhumus]

I have my Atari VCS running Batocera. That too was overpriced and underspecced, but I got on at the beginning of the Indiegogo campaign and those were more optimistic times. On the plus side, the money was long spent by the time I got my device so the pain was delayed (and at least I did at least get my device). It's also a cool looking box to play retro games on even if it's worthless in its native console mode.

[@neo1711]

14:21 Virtua figher 3 came out in 96 and there wasn't anything that looked it at the time

[@psychoacer]

Excellent timing on this considering Nintendo is on the war path right now due to emulation and piracy. I'm sure you're on their naughty list now.

[@faustinpippin9208]

even emulation? lol

[@neruwu]

@@faustinpippin9208 these days you only need to look at your switch with impure thoughts and Nintendo will send the Pinkertons to break your kneecaps

[@israellai]

​@@neruwuor the Tinkatons

[@nadeoki]

@@faustinpippin9208 Well no. It's never the consumers that pose a problem to nintendo. It's the ones cracking/leaking and publishing the exploits that they're worried about.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

​@@nadeoki then please tell me why they've singlehandedly destroyed every legit ROM site on the internet. The kinds of websites that didn't even host their modern games? They're all gone now, all that's left are shady websites and ROM sites that purged their nintendo library.

[@elrobert2858]

Will spend $1000 on aliexpress console but not spend $500 for a proper review of a prototype.

[@frozencatcake]

💀

[@maxmustermann8776]

different sponsors, different budgets.

[@elrobert2858]

@@maxmustermann8776 is that why they auctioned it off to competitors?

[@klasc9005]

Did you really just play JET SET RADIO FUTURE? Wow the coincidence astounds me. I was inspired to make my own retro gaming console because of the memories of this game. I literally finished building my own PC with batocera about 2 months ago and it has been a dream come true. The issue everyone runs into with these consoles are TOO many games. The key is too build your own collection of select games that actually mean something to you or people around you. This focuses you and does not overwhelm you with crap games.

[@udance4ever]

agreed - I keep different builds just to keep cluttered (but complete) rom sets separate from a curated build that is pretty minimal & often fits in much smaller media like thumb drives!

[@AloneAlexandros]

The fact that Linus is using a framework laptop to view all the specs, that's exactly how to understand how good these laptops are

[@Nirotix]

$1000 is $750 too much for this, considering there are plenty of emulator's online you can download for free (pirated as well I might add), and simply run on your desktop computer.

[@ZipplyZane]

It would have been good to try out the most hardware intensive console emulator, to see how well it handled it.

[@danieljensen2626]

If it was a reasonable price this actually seems like a good retro gaming box. Would be interesting to see what more modern games they even have on there and how well they ran though.

[@timmyl0]

I agree, I just can't justify the value in stolen games.

[@legend7951]

@@timmyl0 Especially when they're all readily available online for free, and can be run by most low-mid range PCs and laptops

[@rohithkumar8708]

​@@legend7951 pc and laptops?? mobiles are enough to run those at full speed . almost all games upto wii can be run on mobile and they run very well. gotta hook up a controller though

[@timmyl0]

@@rohithkumar8708 Oh absolutely, I remember running SNES roms almost with no issues since early 00's when I was rocking a pentium 2 haha.

[@timmyl0]

@@legend7951 I mean... they can be run by almost everything with modern computing power. Look at the retro pi's which imho if I was going this route is what I would do. Buy the unit and get my own roms and emulators. You can take it a step further and make your own but I am not smart enough for that.

[@reviewtechgermany8091]

Linus playing games with Jeffery Sokol is so wholesome.

[@FromWitchSide]

I have those gamepads, they actually are quite decent as long as you don't play something depending on L2/R2 as those are just pain to use due to their position and angle (they just replaced triggers with digital buttons without redesigning the shell). First one (white) I got for free back when you could get Freebies on Ali. Dpad feel similar to the one in Hori's Pokken controller, it has pivot, diagonals work well and it is lighter than the one in Dual Shock 4. Facebuttons feel similar to Pokken as well (bit cheap, but you forget about it during gameplay). Analogs are accurate, close to DS4, no jitter, but after some heavy use I can feel movement of like the rubber band under my finger during a specific move - not noticeable in gameplay yet, but who knows. The shape is DS4, but there are some adjustments like angle of grip is 1 digree different or something is 1mm shorter - actually feels like improvement, doesn't feel as chunky as DS4 for those who didn't like it going into the direction of Xbox controller. However the second controller (black) I bought for a fishy low price on Shopee... and one of the diagonals on dpad requires you to be specific (quite common issue with a lot of controllers, even some of the Retro-bit's Sega licensed ones have it), and it sometimes just behaves weirdly, like when you connect it to USB it will vibrate. However it was cheap and it does the job fine for most of the games as I wanted it for xinput (it has xinput, direct input and I think PS3 mode) for occasional Retroarch on TV box, as RetroArch for Android doesn't want to work with most of my "less branded" direct input controllers.

[@franktothemax]

Subbed last week and it’s crazy how much content I’ve consumed and how well I feel I know the personalities of LTT. I’ve learned so much in such short time. Keep up the good work you beautiful bastards

[@ghostinng274]

If it wasn't $1k I'd probably buy it...

[@maxmustermann8776]

you can load the software on your existing pc for free. The maximum amount of things you really need to overtop this product, is a long hdmi cable to your tv, a wireless xbox controller and maybe a separate HD, so you can actually boot from it, if you willing to. If you spend 200$ its still a scam and you buy old tech-garbage with pirate software, that wont last long or being a fire hazard. If you are interested in tech (you are here, so you do) you can easily build your own, with a used laptop for way less eighter.

[@bmkbbk123]

man. the smile on my face when I saw you guys boot up jet set radio future was massive. my childhood was spent playing that game. god tier game.

[@_mike]

8:20 - There was a bug in the Windows 10 installer, where the boot manager was occasionally installed on a drive other than the system drive if there were two (or more) drives in the system.

[@gixxar6]

It always defaults to drive 0

[@gorkskoal9315]

lol wowza! did they fix it?

[@_mike]

@@gorkskoal9315 I think they did at some point, but I doubt Chinese manufacturers bother using updated ISOs. Especially when they are pirating it anyway.

[@gorkskoal9315]

@@_mike oh defiantly

[@Red-Eyez420gaming]

Ill never forget the sound of a commadore 64 loading when you put the tape in😂

[@snotspat]

Oh, I wanted to see Amiga games on it. Frontier Elite, Alien Breed 3D. Stuff that would be even greater on a fast CPU (relative to the Amiga).

[@garysnell47]

Same here.. my A1200 is still alive and working

[@hecklepig]

Linus just picked the universal mash all the keys at once and hope something works move. Always the mark of a great gaming experience. I definitely remember those days.

[@DaveWulf]

Once again, really thanks for upload the Spanish Audio! This will really help your videos be seen by many more people from different Spanish-speaking countries.

[@AaronShenghao]

Maybe they mixed up the currency... something like this cost 1000 Yuan (~150USD)

[@BillPairaktaridis]

Would also be great to showcase a good media PC emulation machine for a similar price. A lot of us older gamers have huge retro libraries but can't have 5-6 consoles plugged into our TVs.

[@svenolino1990]

I like how you launched it the first time but have played 169 games already :). @08:39

[@speedracer123222]

12:47 The Xbox emulation is likely using xemu which is very cpu intensive because of its accuracy focus at first before performance which kinda makes sense. Kinda like rpcs3 levels but being only one thread and others for like audio and such. Even with steamdeck it kinda cooks lol.

[@hongluzhang7771]

At least 75% of the price is added for oversea deals at this price point. For keyboard as an example to compare the buying power differential, I can buy a solid one(vgn98pro for instance) at max(not counting any discounts i can have on many different platforms) 399cny without tax(roughly 70cad(60 before tax)), having 3 modes, gasket, and hot swap, 8000mah battery. In this case, it would be way cheaper and quicker if you simply bought one and add a 50cad fee letting someone to carry it to canada via flights

[@Automotivenecromancer]

So, if you were building a gaming set up for a survival bunker, what gaming setup would you choose? Based on size of gaming catalog, storage size, durability/reliability and quality of gaming and power consumption, would you choose something like this?

[@dangitnicky]

A lot of these consoles were purpose built for emulation but the pamphlet has to say otherwise. I bought a Miyoo Mini Plus for around CA$75 and it's not the best built, but it's a nice console. Can play most retro consoles up to PS1. Well worth the money imo, considering the community CFW that is made for these devices. Single Board Computer Gaming (e.g. retro emulation handhelds) is something worth looking into. The competition in this space is insane.

[@agrisimfarming]

Yes, I plan on picking up the recently released Anbernic RG353PS, there are loads of good options for affordable, high quality retro handhelds. A lot of them also allow you to buy them without any games preinstalled if you don't condone piracy.

[@CDL_Gaming]

14:37 Plouffe is that friend who's figured out the controls and won't tell anyone what they are because he likes winning too much. lol

[@jugobetrugo7213]

basically you bought a overpriced low/mid-range pc in a console case with mid 2000's controllers for 1000$

[@cygnusz54]

Commodore 64 was "such a bad time for games"?! One of the most legendary PCs of the early 1980s, with a huge library of excellent games such as Archon, Starflight and Wasteland.

[@hinasolver685]

Probably referring to the video game crash at the time.

[@Carewolf]

@@hinasolver685 That was before C64 got big, it basically came out in a crashed market.

[@bdhale34]

The Commodore 64 was amazeballs, so many good games and so much innovation too. Thing had games that talked on it, in the 80's.

[@retroman--]

My mom had a C64 and showed it to us hooked up to her tv in her room. She showed us how it can type. Boy was that boring. Went back to the atari 2600. Had no clue till many years later that the C64 was an awesome gaming pc.

[@retroman--]

thanks for mentioning Archon, Starflight and Wasteland. Never heard of them....I will check them out! I leave you with L'Abbaye des Morts, a new game released for the C64 and ported elsewhere. The Genesis version is great as well. For original C64 games, I love the port of Montezuma's Revenge and Murder of the Mississippi

[@peesafpayper9688]

15:25 It was Namco who patented loading screen games. Which expired in 2015

[@lordtimmy1472]

This title is going to age like fine wine in a few years

[@me2olive]

11:30 So the kind of interesting thing from an emulation point of view there is they're not using a "clean" romset from one of the more common groups, as that's a rom with an integrated trainer. Pretty common back in the 90's for backup systems, but not so much now, now you'd be more likely to use cheats integrated into the emulator or flash cart itself. So that could be a kind of... interesting collection of roms, anyway.

[@WVURxMan]

The Arcade Box/Pawky Box ones that only cost $40 ain't a bad deal. They come preloaded with every Atari, NES, SNES, Genesis, and Game Boy game plus a huge selection of MAME titles and they all run perfectly up until you get to N64 (where you start running into emulation issues).

[@paulmarkovich]

RE 5:39 , In the context of emulation, ps3 and ps2 are actually pretty "large-scale"

[@scraps7624]

The only reason I ever played NES games when I was a kid in the late 90's-early 00's was because of those 100-in-1 gameboy advanced cartridges that you could get in some local videogame stores. I played Castlevania, Mario, Excitebike, Pokemon, freaking Circus Charlie, really great memories

[@gorkskoal9315]

lol noway man it was all about Metroid 1, Megaman 1: and cheeeesing the game with the elect beam, 2: because it was good, and megaman3: a bugridden mess lol. Oh and I can't forget --supersmashbros-- battletoads.

[@shibasss]

Connecting that thing to your local network might not be the wisest thing though

[@DJ-Lee_S]

3:44 the way he said “8 core chip” really got me good 😂😂😂😂

[@yuussee]

I was like: ONLY eight cores???

[@__8120]

Plouffe needs to be on camera more he's so happy at everything it's honestly infectious

[@brett9000]

I recently created a Batocera arcade punks micro SD card for my steam deck and everything I have tried runs amazingly and looks great

[@ryanwest2825]

It genuinely looks like everyone has so much fun filming these, and Linus seems like a funny, friendly guy. I will be very sad if it ever came out that he's a terrible, toxic boss that underpays his staff.

[@kbhasi]

(7:06) That reminded me of a cheap Intel Atom based SBC I bought where not only the manufacturer didn't want to provide the documentation I wanted, but there was also a phantom touch screen and battery, plus when running Windows 10 on it, it showed up in my Microsoft account as a tablet rather than a desktop or laptop. They also provided modified drivers that seemingly converted LVDS or eDP to VGA.

[@penfold7800]

Its possible that doing a Tablet installation of WinX actually optimises it so that it installs less bloat, AI device recognition and drivers and uses less system resources. Thats a smart thing to do. I used to install Windows with less RAM and on a base-line hardware computer, configure it for 'mobile' and then port that once complete to a computer with more RAM and faster hardware. It made a huge difference to how the end system performed.

[@penfold7800]

Also, in a similar case to yours, I remember with the ATOM dual core cpu's, if you configured windows to run in 32-bit mode instead of 64 it ran much faster. ...but that was on a budget MSI board, so hey-ho, who knows why to be honest.

[@THE_CARBON]

Hello brotha

[@fv101]

Edp 445

[@DinodieTonight]

At 5:40 Linus says that the console can play LOL, PUBG, and PS2. He skipped PS3 in that lineup, which makes sense since the PS3 has no games.

[@Cocytus]

1:10 - Linus!! Don't bodyshame the power brick!!

[@donovang6911]

We need occasional videos of the LTT staff gaming together... Their shannigans and commentary is hilarious 😂

[@paulpietschinski3282]

That goal linus scored in nhl 94 led to many many fights with me and my buddies. We called it super cheese. There is no defending it.

[@fuxbox]

These rich ass KZbinrs are single handedly keeping wish alive

[@99mage99]

The PS2 controller is legit the goat. I cannot believe Linus compared it to this..... thing.

[@Arctificial]

Okay something these people could do that people might get is take a hdd (or for premium versions a sata SSD) and just load it up with games and its own software like this thing, that way you can just plop it in your rig that you probably built for a lot cheaper than one of these and its probably even better performance wise

[@naruhearts1]

They make those, external HDD versions, idk if they make internal

[@udance4ever]

it actually would be interesting for them to take the SSD & boot it into their gaming rig & see those emulators fly!

[@BURRITO44]

Great video !! Where is the link for this ???? There are companies in China who are very shady !!! Buyer beware !! There are game systems that have the same number of games that cost way less !!!

[@richardlincoln886]

Did I hear at one point 'this was a bad time for games' referring to the early 1980s....? It was a glorious time - the competition back then was card games or board games - for electronic/video games you had to go to an arcade/seafront pier etc. Home gaming was amazing that you could even get an approximation of the arcade experience in your house.

[@kipp14]

What's struck me about most of the listings for these things is most of the sellers are recyclers gaining a storefront as a side business

[@catnip202xch.]

I’d say that if there’s some life in recycled hardware and that hardware finds new life, that’s a dub

[@FatherAxeKeeper]

Silly me thought the wire on those controllers was perfectly long enough. much longer than what we got back in the day.

[@Nereosis16]

Wish this video was longer and showed more games. Would have been nice to see linus and plouff playing more

[@noodlekingjr]

16:41 ***He (doesn't) recommend that you source your ROMs for free.

[@clmchris]

Could you take the SSD that has all the games on it out and put it into a decent gaming rig? Seems like a lot of fun games that would be better off in something decent. Thanks for the good videos.

[@ivailogeimara]

There is a potential problem with these Ali Express consoles with 1000+ games and especially the cheaper ones. They may come loaded with some kind of malware/spyware or software that will make them part of ddos or other bot network like the Chinese Android boxes.

[@kidscast5842]

Who cares about spyware when it’s a console you are literally just playing some old games on? Your not doing anything for them to spy or steal

[@ivailogeimara]

@@kidscast5842 Depending on your router and other devices on your network it can infect them (that is a very simplified way of saying it). Normally home networks are configured as networks with devices you trust. That's why you shouldn't have windows xp your network for example.

[@TheStigification]

It took me till Linus said $1000 like four times before I realized that’s more than ps5

[@Documenting_Life_8619]

Hey Linus I’ve a question regarding these gpus : Nvidia quadro P series them prices of P4000-4200-5000-5200 how much are these worse today I know they’re from 2017-18 I see on eBay they cost 600-1000+$ wtf I was lucky enough to get one of some seller who claimed it failed to start up after driver install turned out had no bios pff otherwise I’m looking to get all those series well I have 4 of p4000s wanna get the rest my HP zbook 17 g2 only allows those mxm slot cards not these new rtx series where the screw hole is slightly above ! Please tell me since you’re a pro at this stuff how much should these cards costs today ? Thanx bro 🙏 love your vids bless you man 🙏😎

[@therealbuzzkill]

Whenever Plouffe is in a video I end up smiling most of the way through. The guy gives off such chill vibes honestly

[@coryifxckinhateyou9399]

He wouldint even look at you honestly