Ok We Might Have to Buy Nvidia GPUs Now…

[@ZachsTechTurf]

My $1000 7900 XTX can’t play this game lol wtf

[@Canofbeans21]

lol

[@connerzy-]

my ipod could run it better

[@MrMol]

Wasted 1000$ for nothing

[@unmortal8672]

sure it can, god you get dumber and dumber with every "witty" comment you think you make

[@MindBlowingClips88]

Ztt by the RTX 5090 next

[@cultofhampter]

"Oh this game is for high end users" -average developer excuse for poor optimization

[@ZacharyBruce-Romans-12-2]

And they fail to realise that doing this negatively affects their bottom line and a majority of people have mid to low end hardware.

[@bigpvzfan42069]

@@Cristian-et5bga 3080 Ti, a 1000 dollar card is THE recommended gpu. Nice try Jensen.

[@kintheknigh80]

Slap on dlss: yeah this is optimitation

[@TheColombus]

Is mutch harder than consoles and they make less money on pc

[@SergeyBuranov]

​@@Cristian-et5bg ragebait bot.

[@michielvoetberg4634]

They basically reduced the number of potential customers.

[@justmatt2655]

I mean judging by the steam hardware survey they didn't reduce it by much

[@DscMc]

If you don’t have the money to have the newest hardware, you won’t buy the game anyway

[@Plumjet09]

They literally made it so every with an AMD you can’t play.

[@Plumjet09]

I guess that’s the point though

[@Rychu-zo1pw]

​@@DscMc what are you talm bout buddy😂. "If you dont have the money for a 1000+ dollar gpu then u wont buy a game for 70 Bucks?

[@A_maury]

"Wait, why are we getting few players?" -Devs after making a game that is only runnable on 1 in 500 pcs

[@drew2626]

You act like only 1 in 500 has a GPU made in the past 6 years 😂

[@studiedturtle4139]

This game is getting pretty good numbers of people playing right now

[@indominusrex2859]

Is it really that hard to run? It runs just fine on my Xbox series x

[@drew2626]

@ not really hard to run by the sounds of it, just sounds like you need a 1440p card like 4070 or 6800 XT just to get 100FPS+ in 1080p high

[@silvioantonio6952]

Top10 cards from steam have ray tracing. The new intel GPUs have great RT, the RTX 3060 is the most used card and plays very well this game. I dont know what you are talking about.

[@schnader]

Every person in the gaming industry working on optimization has probably gotten fired it seems.

[@notreallykeven86]

More like they have very little pay, get served a buggy and nonfunctional game, then get told "yeah, fix this up in a month" by upper management

[@stachie04]

This isn't the fact that it's unoptimized, it's just intensive. There's a difference. The reason devs use RT over rasterization for higher settings mostly is cus it's much easier for them to implement. Rather than rasterization where they would need to create individual textures, shadows and reflections, with ray tracing the dev would just need to place the light source and the game engine would just use the GPU to render in the textures/reflections/shadows. This video blows this out of proportion unnecessarily.

[@TheCentralScrutinizerAgain]

replaced by tick boxers that do their job poorly

[@hodayfa000h]

​@@stachie04another way to say they got lazy.

[@Cursory3]

@@stachie04 I think you are overlooking the fact that they are mentioning the use of DLSS and frame generation before you even target 60 FPS. So in theory if you do not use DLSS and FG you ain't gonna hit the 60fps mark with any card at native 4K. And your explanation about not having to create individual textures just proves the devs are lazy... It's an unoptimized mess and many would call it "bootlicking" if anyone else says otherwise.

[@majikclown9236]

Resident evil tried this. It lasted one month and they rolled back the RT requirement.

[@flair8099]

Which game was it?

[@Monke15329]

@@flair8099probably the 4 remake

[@theshuggie]

Not exactly. They forced dx12, not ray tracing. You could still toggle it off.

[@r1natii465]

Re4 isn't even that hard to run bruh

[@user-dj5se2os5v]

​@@r1natii465 it was RE 2 and 3 Remake, they forced patch that made games 2x time more demanding

[@neeN57240]

Ray tracing required is insane Screw whoever thought that that was a good idea

[@FreelanceDev4life]

Probably has to do with Real Time Lighting puzzels

[@peterclarke7006]

The tragedy is it runs fine on my £175 Xbox series S. Sure, it might not be as pretty as it is on a high-end pc, or have 120fps, but I can play and enjoy the game just fine.

[@Verchiel_]

What's kind of bizarre is that you don't NEED raytracing cards to run games like Teardown, which has custom built raytracing which is always on.

[@railasvuo]

​@@peterclarke7006 The game looks very poor on the Series S. But it works just fine

[@peterclarke7006]

@@railasvuo yeah, that's what I find weird. Why does the PC version *require* ray tracing, when the cheapest current-gen console version barely requires anything more than a hamster on a treadmill and a bit of duct tape to run just fine? It just seems deeply unfair to all the PC owners who don't own a top-spec PC. Honestly, I've been thinking of making the leap to a PC, but I've realised I don't need much from it as I'm only doing it so I can play more indie games. Most non-platform-exclusive AAA games are available and functionally fine on my ridiculously cheap Series S. Sure, they're not the prettiest, but neither am I 🤣

[@navoJ]

At some point devs are going to put Minimum: rtx 4090 Recommended: gpu which will launch some times in future

[@teknikal_domain]

Stalker 2.

[@ImShubhamY]

Contradictory fact is Nvidia charges more for xx70 and above cards by calling them professional use cards and not gaming, and yet these stupid game Devs think 4090 is standard for gamers.

[@RusticRonnie]

I mean at some point the RTX 4090 will be outdated and underpowered just like every top end GPU ever

[@Chicken-o5e]

4090 cant do 8k well or even 4k raytracing let alone path tracing, its already technically outdated ​bcuz thats the near future. Lets see what 5090 can do @@RusticRonnie

[@PlzDoNotTheFade]

@@Chicken-o5e tbf, i feel like only wierdos play on 4k

[@ezhiq]

You are right, modern devs simply don't care about any optimization, because it takes too much time and effort.

[@aPopcap]

new hardware and specs for devs has resulted in less interest in making a game efficiently, they already made games take up 200 gb when they could easily be alot smaller, and now its onto specifications being ridiculously bloated

[@enslavingsociety9203]

It's about budget, and most gamers aren't aware of inflation so they bitch and cry if game prices change. Mario 64 was 60$ on release, that's roughly 120 today. 10x more content for half the price? They gotta cut corners somewhere.

[@enslavingsociety9203]

​@@aPopcap Storage is part of PC specs and is cheap, easily expandable and I hear people say they can shrink the size more but have you actually looked at the dev tools out lately? Do you understand the work flow to get raytracing to work? My point being, there's already a massive amount of work that's being done for optimization that's going unnoticed because: example:" cod 6 runs worse than cod 5" when really. They did massive amounts of work to get all the things running together with their new movement system, time frame and budget restrictions.

[@BoredEditor4k]

Or maybe because the gpu market isn't doing anything just making they're gpu bigger

[@hakanyavas8533]

​@@enslavingsociety9203Mario Kart 64 was on a console that didnt sell well because gaming was much more nieche than it is now. Today we should have games that can balance graphical fidelity with performance like how RDR2 can run on a 1060 on high 60fps while you can also use a high end GPU to get better specs

[@meatwasp423]

The “great circle” is the zero in my bank account trying to meet those requirements

[@jebusglatze1285]

3080TI as recommended is actually crazy

[@alexmin4752]

Soon you're gonna need a liquid nitrogen cooled CPU to run games

[@theblaaackpro8686]

Probably blind but I'm pretty sure it's a 4080

[@GamingWithTravis3]

@@theblaaackpro86863080TI for the non ray tracing one

[@POLARTTYRTM]

the recommended is a 4080 which is even crazier

[@amirmohammad9617]

And I just recently got a 3070 Ti and I'm still on minimum, it's actually injustice😭😭 Guess we all need to buy those damn Consoles eventually

[@wobbu_]

- western game developer has been here - how can you tell? - 120 GB

[@zestybeans6584]

Black myth wukong was like 110gb I'm pretty sure

[@priyanshumaurya007]

​@@zestybeans6584 That's cus of UE5 I'm sure!

[@dr_diddy]

​@@zestybeans6584and very much also has issues lol, I don't even know if they've fixed the Memory leak issues.

[@lsksniper1936]

@@zestybeans6584 It's also a MASSIVE game with a ton of 4K cutscenes. The rest of the files are pretty clean on storage.

[@cmdaltctr]

@@zestybeans6584Chinese games and industrialisations are following the west and American methods for sure with their lack of optimisation. Now if you say Japanese game - that’s another matter.

[@Unprotected1232]

The one thing I'd appreciate would be if console equivalent settings were available as a quick optimized preset for lower end hardware. That way budget gamers get an actual sense of how their hardware compares to that of the baseline; consoles.

[@donaldnguyen19]

consoles have the equivalent of a ryzen 7 5700x and an rx 6700xt

[@jrbmxr2564]

as an nvidia leaner this type of shi should absolutely NOT become any trend for any amount of time. It just raises the cost for most builders who want to be able to run games and thus raising budget pc pricing

[@dracconus619]

Well said

[@kppage8843]

It also outright prohibits anyone who doesn’t have $500 for a dedicated GPU - or doesn’t have a desktop computer to begin with - from playing the game. It’s absurd.

[@NinjapowerMS]

Only thing that should be mandatory at this point is an SSD.

[@FishFlop_The_CatSlap]

dude this sorta thing has been a common problem for at least 5 years.

[@jrbmxr2564]

@@FishFlop_The_CatSlap the non optimization has and will only get worse im talking about the rtx required performance

[@SpudMil]

Seeing the recommended specs was what single-handedly dissuaded me from purchasing the collector’s edition, and I have a 3070 Ti

[@emporioalnino4670]

The game will run great on your hardware. It's very optimised. Don't just assume from the spec sheet

[@SirJimmySavileOBEKCSG]

Poor game optimisation!

[@jacobgames3412]

Stalker 2 has poor optimization too

[@ArcherHMR]

​@@jacobgames3412One was developed and self-published by a developer that's operating in a literal war zone, the other is from a multi billion dollar corporation in the US.

[@caldex1557]

@@jacobgames3412 they will fix it, and the recommended GPU of Stalker 2 is half the price.

[@Dragoneye2427]

​@ArcherHMR stalker 2 dev moved their hq out of Ukraine a little before the war began, so that's not an excuse.

[@RTWT990]

they gotta learn from warframe that game can run high settings! on 110-120 fps on my 6650xt

[@thewarsztat4858]

Support indie devs, tell AAA games you’re tired of their nonsense by not playing any of their games

[@bluewave2432]

POP THE AAA BUBBLE.

[@hikaru9624]

That's not gonna happen.

[@Nereplan]

​@@hikaru9624they just need to fuck up like Ubisoft did that even casuals won't play them.

[@GamingWithTravis3]

I’m not doing that, I’d rather have fun playing AAA games then protest them

[@Raúl-g3m2w]

Hell yeah

[@gabadaba5436]

Monster Hunter Wilds requiring top end Nvidia cards with AI generation capabilities for max settings is arguably more insane. The recommended hardware being a 6700/3070 on its own is insane, but that's just for medium settings. As much as I hate to see it, we might legitimately be entering a time where consoles beat out PCs for gaming, simply due to games needing to be designed for them

[@JustinTheMan369]

So few people cared about ray tracing that Nvidia started urging developers to mandate it as default settings. I hate these companies greed.

[@lordraj365]

They are @$$holes

[@Scripzure]

if it's greed then why are they limiting their market? makes no sense

[@_Rerr_]

​@@Scripzureto force a market that will buy newer cards

[@HolyRedEye]

@@Scripzureto get more people to get the latest gpu

[@Pleasiotic1]

@@Scripzure Because Nvidia probably paid them? They do that you know.

[@BlogingLP]

Man good i don't play AAA games anymore and went full indie and AA a good while ago it really rekindled my love for video games again plus i don't have to fuck around with broken games that shouldn't launch in the first place

[@yurisoares2596]

My only love for games has been 4x in the last 5 years. 2A and Indie, they seems always more performant than those 3A.

[@BlogingLP]

@@yurisoares2596 Yeah, because they make games for gamers not investors it always goes wrong when investors and consulting corps are involved

[@AntiTako]

Same

[@unholysaint1987]

The last 3A game I bought was Fallout 4, like 6 months after it came out... I have bought and played dozens of 2A and indie games since then, and if I remember right, the highest "minimum requirements" to play one of my games is Sons of the Forest, and that's a whopping i5-8400 paired with a 3gb 1060...

[@BlogingLP]

@@unholysaint1987 Yeah, they really optimize the shit out of their games which makes them run and look better back when I played a game called Get Even, it ran really good and looks better than stalker 2

[@nothingmuch6666]

The fact that the requirements for Ultra specify they're targeting 4K 60 with _performance_ DLSS (rendering internally at like 720p or 1080p iirc) AND frame generation on a _4090_ is wild. People called me crazy for getting a 4090 and not upgrading beyond a 1080p monitor, but more and more games are coming out to prove that, unless game companies start optimising games properly again, the 4090 _is_ a 1080p card in reality, and may even struggle at 1080p in a few short years.

[@donaldnguyen19]

uh get a new monitor bud

[@nothingmuch6666]

@donaldnguyen19 Nah, I'm good

[@Thatsocap_mc]

Intel core i7-13900k on the list is crazy💀

[@emrekurtoglu7673]

paired with a ryzen 4070 it rocks, trust me

[@ianthewarriorgamer8180]

@@emrekurtoglu7673Ryzen 4070 jokes that late is wild

[@undefinedCat]

I prefer the Ryzen 5 7800x3d for AM4, and also a GTX 4090 Titan

[@anotheryuando_lol]

i got the ryzen 7 7900x with the LGA1700 socket, with the rx 7850 ti. hope this runs well alongside my 32gb sodimm ddr4 5000 ram.

[@morpheus_9]

It should be the 5800X3D, far superior cpu

[@jony_tough]

I feel like this game exists to promote GPU's and that's it.

[@donaldnguyen19]

an rx 6500 is literally $120 💀

[@jony_tough]

@@donaldnguyen19 how is this related

[@BoloWajahat]

I just played it on rog ally which dont have ray tracing and the game worked fine on 720p low settings with RIS on

[@WamblyHades]

It does, in fact, have rt hw

[@QuentinBrutus]

Guys its a game financed by nvidia to boost you guessed it nvidia sales . In what world are we is this even legal so sad

[@yes-69]

or MAYBE nvidia gpus just are a lot better in ray tracing

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

​@@yes-69 So the solution is to make ray tracing optional.

[@embrance9565]

​@@yes-69you aren't known for your intellect, are you? That is a game made for nvidia. They need to justify their prices somehow and some devs go along with it as you can see. Not like that game even worth a penny in my opinion let alone the price for the card it requires.. Oh yes, I won't buy another 4080 just so I can rage on the shit driver and bin it in 6months because its such a good quality😂

[@Rychu-zo1pw]

Fr. Pc glazers always said exclusives are the reason consoles are bad. Guess what, youre gonna have exclusives on pc now

[@marcokeyter346]

Where is it financed by Nvidia?!? I don't think they have financed a single game in their history

[@BookOfEnchantments]

Ultra-Realism shouldn't be the standart for making a game, this is why i mostly trust Indie Devs more than those "AAA" game companies.

[@Chronos-Sensei]

I trust every 3 people dev team lots more. For example the start of Valheim or Subnautica and such. They were made with passion in mind *not profit*

[@gerzsonjatekos3183]

Indie devs are very good sometimes but ultra realistic games (both gameplay and graphics) are the best

[@PhonkMachine220YT]

I don't even trust indie game devs, let alone AAA devs. Piracy is going to be my way.

[@lulu111_the_cool]

​@gerzsonjatekos3183no. The story is important

[@lulu111_the_cool]

​@@PhonkMachine220YTso what games do you play? If not from AAA or Indies?

[@RJN9008]

The crazy thing is it actually runs great as long as you don’t enable the path tracing. I have a 4070ti and the pt kills it. Looks fine without though so I’m happy enough with the performance

[@BusySlim]

Its simple then. Boycott the developer if they cant be bothered to make a game that runs on mainstream graphics cards!

[@Longinus-209]

It does. The most commonly used GPU is the 3060 according to the Steam hardware survey.

[@theorphanobliterator]

it runs perfectly on the vast majority of systems. if ppl want to cry cuz it won’t run on their gtx 1050 laptop, that’s on them

[@bruhblint6890]

​@theorphanobliterator this type of comment typically gets the pin of shame

[@enslavingsociety9203]

I'd rather boycot the gamers for being spoiled brats who constantly demand more but aren't willing to let inflation touch their game prices. Which in turn, has made your games cheaper with more content, they gotta cut corners. This is one of them. This is your fault. Not the devs.

[@BoredEditor4k]

Make it urself then

[@EnderiumSmith]

The PC port of Horizon Zero Dawn can run on AMD integrated graphics on medium settings through an emulator(proton) so other games have no excuse. Photorealistic graphics have been solved a long time ago.

[@doug1932]

Proton is a translation layer, not an emulator.

[@drew2626]

What integrated Graphics are you talking about? Because if you’re talking about 780M that’s not surprising and doesn’t take much

[@EnderiumSmith]

@@drew2626 The ones on the ryzen 4650G. not sure the exact model but i dont think they differ that much on amd

[@drew2626]

@ never heard of that chip, when you say can run, what do you mean? Like 30fps with FSR?

[@EnderiumSmith]

@@drew2626 30@720p medium or 30fps@1080p low

[@indominusrex2859]

That game runs just fine on my xbox series x

[@RainyRainy123]

This is why I just play games I like lmao, no need to upgrade stuff for Skyrim, Webfishing, Minecraft etc 😂

[@nightmaremaus406]

I want upgrade PC for shader minecraft.

[@Frigid_Kev]

The fact that we have games from nearly a decade ago with graphics that still holds up to this day, even rivals current ray tracing games, and most of them don't even need a beefy PC astonishing. Battlefield 1, Batman Arkham Knight, Star Wars Battlefront, Assassins Creed Unity...

[@JustinTheMan369]

@@Frigid_Kev Battlefield V was really good too. Star Wars Battlefront 2 was the first game me and my son played together when I got him his first PC when he turned 5. The graphics in that game were ASTONISHING, even when compared to games today, over half a decade later, even after the "improvements" from ray tracing. NO ONE cares then, and few care now.

[@tumultoustortellini]

Metro exodus and rage 2 can run on ps4 and are some of the most beautiful games to ever come out

[@rifath8152]

Not to mention Machinegames' own Wolfenstein The New Colossus which released in 2017. The facial animations might not hold up (something that they also haven't improved, imo) but the environment design is still stunning if not on par with all AAA games releasing today

[@saneatomic300]

It's actually not too bad! Got a 5700x3d, 16gb 3600mhz ram, and a 7900GRE, pulling about 100 fps on high settings at 1440p, no frame gen or amd fsr enabled

[@emporioalnino4670]

This same outrage happened when the Alan Wake II spec sheet was released. Gamers don't understand how to read it so they think their 3070s will be worthless. GAME RUNS FINE STOP PANICKING

[@hohoucgguztizi4655]

Almost proves that nvidia is paying off game devs

[@marcokeyter346]

For what reason exactly? At this point Nvidia has moved past gaming

[@wilsonmpesha904]

​@@marcokeyter346Oh no. I'm rich, please don't pay me...

[@wow-sham1300]

⁠@@marcokeyter346having a 4090 as a requirement for RT ultra is absurd. The game is just poorly optimized. I don’t know for sure about Nvidia paying devs off but, just because they make most of the money from Ai doesn’t mean they don’t care about gaming profits.

[@durchfaII]

@wow-sham1300 Instead of making comments based on assumptions, contact people who have played the game. It runs smoothly on my RTX 3050 on medium low settings despite it being on early access. The game runs on the same engine as Doom eternal btw

[@marcokeyter346]

@@wow-sham1300 its not absurd at all. i remember 8 years ago seeing the first game with a gtx 1080 as a requirement for ultra. the 1080 is basically useless as a graphics card for modern gaming now. its absurd now because its new. once it becomes standard you can buy 20 used 4090 ti graphics cards for the price of 1 today. a gtx 1080 used to cost the same as a 4090 does today. its called change. we were never supposed to be stuck in 2016 graphics. btw you are aware Ultra is the highest setting that would require a pretty beefy pc to run. so wouldnt it make sense to have the best gpu to run the game at the best quality?

[@majikclown9236]

Here's an idea, take a consumer stand and don't BUY IT. OMG i know, its a crazy concept to miss out on a product today. Seriously people stop buying garbage and the market wouldn't look like it does today. Shame on consumers, not the companies.

[@omarhasaballa7818]

So people should not buy windows? and they shouldn't buy ubisoft games and they should just pirate then? Apparently people can't see why this is wrong... oh god Well, at this point, why are you even paying taxes? just evade them

[@rayturnatus8378]

​@@omarhasaballa7818yes

[@rayturnatus8378]

​@@omarhasaballa7818no piracy even needed for the ubisoft games since very few people are playing them anyway

[@cool_boxy]

Yea I agree, seriously, if you can’t run it just ignore, so much ragebait in pc gaming these days, just ignore and move on, so these type of games aren’t seen and they can be less popular

[@phantom6441]

​@@omarhasaballa7818 YES, literally what people should do with companies and developers like this

[@Templarfreak]

im actually kind of surprised at its performance, i cant run it myself but i have some friends that streamed it over discord and none of them seemed to have any fps issues at all. i would expect on even hardware it was designed for to have _some_ problems but the gameplay seems totally smooth for them

[@cngld]

This is just the work of developers who laid off their entire optimization team.

[@Marneus_Calgar]

When developers say the game is a shit in optimisiation without explicitly saying it

[@ForeverMasterless]

This comment section is wild. Indy is one of the most optimized games to come out in a long time. People need to watch digital foundry more.

[@scotlandholmgren7180]

Gameplay > visuals Selling a game on visuals alone isn't going to work anymore when 75% of the potential players can't run the game.

[@gothpunkboy89]

Concord demolished that theory. Good game play that at worst didn't stand out against already popular games. And it bombed

[@quandaledingleligmaepikgam8517]

​@@gothpunkboy89Concord visuals weren't the problem the characters fucking sucked

[@Rev.Serenity]

​​@@gothpunkboy89 people had many issues with concord, visual graphic wasn't one of them. artstyle maybe but that's not what the op is talking about

[@gothpunkboy89]

@@Rev.Serenity Art style and visual graphics are hand in hand. People hated it for how it looked not how it played. Which means any argument that game play is what people really care about is demolished by this.

[@grassyassy1533]

@@gothpunkboy89it didn’t help that concord released as pay to play when the competition surrounding it are free to play. It killed all momentum the game could’ve had.

[@Shaded-Echoes]

I love your Videos Zach their what got me into pc building but I have a question I currently got a 5700XT and a Ryzen 7 3800x and 32gb of ddr4 ram and a Aorus x570 elite motherboard which I got for like 200 bucks and I want to do some upgrading but I still want to stay on am4 do you have any recommendations?

[@ZachsTechTurf]

If you want to stay on AM5, then I would go with a 5600X, 5700X, or 5700X3D depending on your budget.

[@aaaaa4197]

Ive been playing it system waaaaay under spec and hitting 60 fps consistently, it’s pretty well optimized

[@sawyermccall2370]

shoutout to devs that actually care about game optimization this is ridiculous. This is almost cities skylines 2 level of bad but hopefully this game at least looks really good

[@RubyCascade]

Yea. At least the City Skylines 2 optimization issue was a mistake (afaik), they simply forgot to add level of detail and culling iirc. With this game it feels intentional, they simply don’t care about making it playable on lower spec machines.

[@yt159-sj6hd]

Well tbh city skylines is no were has bad has this upcoming game

[@Southeastern_Thrills]

Maybe I'm lucky but, I've had zero performance issues and bugs with Cities Skylines 2. I've actually had more issues with Planet Coaster 2. I still love both games though.

[@RubyCascade]

@@Southeastern_Thrills I’m pretty sure it’s been patched since.

[@Southeastern_Thrills]

@ Yeah, but I've been playing since day one

[@exoticdachoo007]

It ain't gonna change my mind on the AMD v NVIDIA debate, it for sure will make sure I don't buy games that have this requirement though. Not only does it annoy me on a personal level that they're starting to alienate the people who can't afford a really expensive PC. It also annoys me because I don't think ray tracing even looks good in general for the performance impact it has, when I'm playing a game, I want the game to be good and that it runs good, not to have a heater inside my PC and for the game to have stutters in some action sections where there shouldn't be any stutters.

[@gsst6389]

Finally they be a diffrence betwen rich pc users and the poor ones, they been no difference for far to long

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

​@@gsst6389 There already is a difference, oligarch. The resolution you play at. And the difference has always been that poor people are more careful with their money.

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

​@@gsst6389 You mean there hasn't been a difference between dumb NVIDIA sheeps and AMD budget ballers who actually know how to spend their money, right?

[@gsst6389]

@ nope not really, the pc of a saudi prince, elites, and milianor is the SAME has my 6k build and im not even a milianor, so like WTF is there really nothing better then a 5-10k build? You mean to tell me all i had to do was save 5k in 6 months and i have the same quality has a king gets? The same thing that a milianor has? It just makes no sense, where the sense in that? Soo yea no difference, same top parts from the same top brands. Also you dont need to know how to spend money when you actually can make more than you could actually spend.

[@BlogingLP]

I think 60 FPS should be the bare minimum

[@mrscsi6472]

it’s just the vram requirements and required features that are the problem. all that considered, framerates are quite high if you have a slower card

[@damonsalvatore792]

These better not be the new standard, we don't need every game have ray tracing. Look how stunning stills looks Arkham Night, Witcher 3 or Alien Isolation and are old games lmao

[@marcokeyter346]

It's clearly gonna become a standard. In fact it's already a standard. Name one AAA game that doesn't have ray tracing support from the last 5 years.

[@gothpunkboy89]

But it is going to be the new standard. And that is a good thing. You get realistic lighting with a fraction of the work.

[@SUPABROS]

"fraction of the work" > way less fps ​@@gothpunkboy89

​@@marcokeyter346metro awakening

​@@gothpunkboy89but the problem would be that many people would have to buy more powerful pcs and many people wont have enough money to buy the parts required for the game which will not let some people be able to play the game and also not all games will look as good if the pc requirements are too high and if soo it's likely the game doesnt look as good and just extremely unoptimized games like metro exodus and cyberpunk is now a good example many gpus can play at a respectable framerate and the visuals are way better than most other games

[@Chronos-Sensei]

No we don’t need to. If we keep complying and don’t show/tell them *“hey? OPTIMISE YOUR SH**TY GAME!”* they’ll just keep doing it and the requirements will skyrocket even more.

[@Joshua_N-A]

This is why I have a tendency to look for pre 2020's and older games these days.

[@smitus_hell7564]

yep im playing starcraft at the moment

[@fuzzyspidercatwashere]

I've been excited for a game coming our called Monster Hunter Wilds and for medium settings 60 fps at 1080p, you need either a 6700xt, a 4060, or a 2070 super. the predecessor needed a rx 580 for high settings

[@prettyboyjeremy]

Unironically wished Capcom would port MHGU to PC. That game could run on a toaster's phone

[@drew2626]

4060 for 1080p medium settings is crazy

[@tumultoustortellini]

The game that's majority flatworld ant landscapes needs a 6700xt? Yeah they think you're fools 😂

[@Spazbo4]

Turns out this game runs great as long as you don't exceed the texture cache of your gpu ram

[@Ikdulo]

You had me at Ray tracing. there's no way in hell my computer's handling this thing.

[@jakejackson7312]

Hey Zach, I have a micro star b460m pro-vdh wifi motherboard, a Core i7-10700K, 16 gigs of ddr4 ram, and a rtx 4070 super 12 gig. Any idea what I should upgrade. Thanks!

[@trere362]

Probably motherboard but that's solid build

[@ZachsTechTurf]

Thanks! Whenever you're ready for a complete platform shift, I would go to AM5. (New CPU, Mobo, RAM). I wouldn't invest anymore in the Intel 10th/11th Generation at this point.

[@doomslayer81]

you don't have to either upgrade neither build new one, you have really good pc

[@Cueil]

This didn't age so well

[@CRIMSON-FLAME1]

I was thinking the same thing

[@Sierraone1]

it aged horribily.

[@nathanconnolly395]

​@@Sierraone1 It aged very well actually Indiana Jones peaked at 4 on the steam sales chart on its release and it's currently being out sold by base cyberpunk 2077 and cyberpunk ultimate edition it only has 2000 reviews and it's never appeared on the steam top 100 so no one is actually playing the game on steam the game flopped.

[@zed2929]

Coz marketing team for this game is not just bad, it doesnt even exist i guess​@@nathanconnolly395

[@dissidius13]

bruh it flopped. so many reviews, so few buyers 😂😂

[@BrodyRoe-y3s]

I have been playing that game on series s and it has been an amazing experience. It’s a little muddy but I’m not complaining because it’s locked at 60fps

[@GibGortman]

uranium is a good alternative to cereal

[@ARWINGx1]

I wasn't planning on getting this game, but if I ever see a game (that I AM interested in) that even *requires* RT,

[@ABlindHilbily]

It's amazing to me that a company would put that much time, energy and money into a game that 80% of PC players would be unable to play. 😂

[@siberiandante]

An i7 as minimum cpu requirement is also insane

[@Dylanj8795]

Depends what gen because old i7 is like 20$ lol

[@thatoneweebguy6379]

​@@Dylanj879510700K is not that old

[@yemartini5443]

The “I7” part isn’t necessarily what matters. It’s usually the number that follows as it shows the generation. For example i5-13600k absolutely demolished an i7-7700k because of the difference in generations

[@bigmans813]

Bro that's a fuckin 10700k.... from 2020... A 13th gen i5 can wipe that cpu clean.

[@fohhee]

That is how they get you to buy new GPU, "The Way It's Meant To Be PAY", evil company.

[@JustChilling-f5z]

The reason companies are able to do this is because we are still buying these no matter what they are cooking, we should express our outmost dissatisfaction by not buying these games anymore

[@AnthonyCSN]

I’m sure people complained when Quake 3 required hardware acceleration.

[@PillarOfDespair]

I recently (October) built a pc with a 5700xt and a ryzen 5 5600x with 16 gigs ddr4 cl16. What should I upgrade first?

[@barteksylka1410]

Maybe ram to 32 gb, this is all, you have a great pc

[@flamingophone]

Gpu

[@dragonmage3099]

The gpu

[@Alwaysontherails]

Maybe upgrade the cpu to a 5700x3d then you should be able to upgrade your gpu to like a rx 7900 gre

[@piselusgamer]

Put in a rx 6750xt I buyed one it run all te games 1440p

[@KalvinStrange]

Was a real gut punch to learn these requirements 2 days before launch. Computer completely refused to play it. Sucks.

[@jayzn1931]

To be fair, ray tracing was always told to cause less work for the devs, as lighting doesn’t have t be baked in etc. Offering raytracing next to rasterization so far has only been a gimmick/bonus for high end pcs but this makes more sense! Doesn’t excuse unoptimized games but I see this as the future for at least most games. But we‘ll see how it develops.

[@fishingdude67]

For a 30yr old, rehashed, unimaginative character, I think I can give it a miss!

[@KingKhan-xw7vq]

It’s completely fine on the ps5 and Xbox series x thou

[@AzulaNexa]

This is absurd, an rtx 2060 for the minimum? AND ray tracing as a requirement is wild, hope less games do this

[@maniac880]

2060 is not much to ask for… that can go in a $400-500 build but i agree needing RTX is messed up like crazy

[@dragonmage3099]

I hope more do it in the future

[@Kaiba2393]

⁠@@maniac880 indeed that gpu is pretty cheap but the ray tracing requirement is them just being allergic to money I guess

[@L_ightninng]

the 2060 minimum is probably because of said raytracing requirement

[@geekmechanic1473]

​@@L_ightninngnot the regular 2060 as that has 6gb vram but super for it's 8gb. They also stated that it'd be for native 1080p targeting 60 on low settings so not that bad.

[@alexlovelace7504]

I'm confused, you can get gpus with ray tracing for just under $300, the base game is $90 skip a couple games and upgrade you computer. Am I missing some hidden cost or something

[@Master0chan]

You're not, RTX is the future and this comment section is a shit-show incited by the content creator.

[@superlavahair1536]

@@Master0chan its still outrageous as gtx 1080 tis from basically 10 years ago still hold up and can play games very well. just because rtx is the future doesnt mean its the standard

[@Master0chan]

@@superlavahair1536 it is also outrageous that RTX was released 6 years ago and people react to it as something new. Developing games with RTX in mind is easier and cheaper therefore we will see it more in the future.

[@Grumpy1174]

The real insane part that a 4070 is "minimum," and a 4080 is "recommended". 4080s are expensive af, virtually nobody who isn't shelling out thousands every year on new PC parts is using a 4080.

[@whitehuntergaming7274]

Aint nobody with a brain paying 90usd instead of waiting a little bit for th 283718th steam sale

[@bearded_n0va]

That was me too I had to install it just to see how it played. I did not care until I saw the requirements

[@king_noobie0]

People can say "let's boycott" this But like, not like anyone who cares about it has the GPU for it anyways.

[@JTRch]

And why do we know that the requirements are bullshit? Because the thing has to look and run great on an Xbox with AMD hardware!

[@NuclearStrike]

You cab use AMD, but you need DLSS 3 for ray tracing on PC.

[@drew2626]

@@NuclearStrike no you don’t 😂 I can run Ray Tracing with FSR or you can run Ray Tracing with DLSS 2.0 or even DLSS 1.0

[@bimapriyoanugerah363]

I'm still playing my NDS and PSP and those game better than all of modern games

[@xNugYT]

There are two spec requirements for this game, with ray tracing and without ray tracing. Zach is only looking at the “with” ray tracing requirements. If you don’t want to use ray tracing they say you can play with a 2060 nvidia gpu and offer amd gpu support as well.

[@darkxarrowyt7504]

Bro, the early reviews are out. And they say it's like they're in an Indiana Jones movie. Better play it and review it ❤. I read a review in Steam, and a guy was using 7900 XTX series AMD graphics card.

[@DATBOI_KINGKAl]

This means it was probably meant for console only because these REQUIREMENTS are unreal

[@VRitasium]

If producers really wanna make their game more immersive it makes a much bigger difference to develop the game for VR, than just implement slightly better graphics. VR instantly makes a game 10x more intense/immersive/terrifying than just be sitted while looking at a flatscreen

[@opticalsalt2306]

Forced ray tracing is by design, you’re a fool if you don’t connect those dots, they want to sell more Nvidia cards at higher profits

[@HotCod]

This goes deeper than you think! Nvida, the swines, were one of the first to sell hardware to support modern hardware accelerated 3D graphics and devlopers, get this, started requiring GPUs for their games! It's been a racket for the start!

[@opticalsalt2306]

@ Happiest, LEAST condescending KZbin commenter

[@-----Alcatraz------]

I just don't understand why a game needs to have THE newest hardware on the market when half of the people can't afford it atm. Surely it's better to just optimise the game so that the majority of the people can play it and bring in the most amount of profits.

[@nguyenduyhieu4343]

This aged like milk tbh

[@PinnuskaTV]

Not really, having Ray tracing forced is the worst idea ever

[@aves4270]

​@@PinnuskaTV but the idea that its poorly optimized definetly did

[@NameName-ll2yx]

@@aves4270It actually is pretty poorly optimized. AW2 and Cyberpunk run much better with more ray tracing enabled. Even Outlaws did it better

[@aves4270]

@NameName-ll2yx It probably runs better if you ask it nicley 🥺

[@drew2626]

@NameName-ll2yx so you’re comparing a game made by a company with less than 200 employees to a game made by a studio with 600+ employees, 😂 makes sense

[@OddSauce]

Game developers have gotten way too comfortable with not optimizing their games...

[@AMDFan-s1y]

They are getting paid by Nvidia to not optimize them so people buy GPUs

[@Tech-is1xy]

Do you even understand what you wrote? Ray tracing = unoptimised?

[@Jamstruth]

The main issue seems to be VRAM if you look at DigitalFoundry, other than that it runs well on most GPUs. The PathTracing mode does apparently require an Nvidia card though (presumably some options that AMD doesn't have yet)

[@achour.falestine]

Nobody is buying this digital piece of garbage bro 😭

[@theteeve]

its the same with the new stalker with it's outrageous requirement

[@nu_kercat1]

the new stalker game is just basic unreal engine 5 syndrome

[@nos4me]

I Love the game but hate the engine

[@XBloodAngelX10]

Thank god I don’t need to worry, I got my 3ds and switch with lots of fun games and not needing to worry about this anytime soon 😅

[@Dunamos]

To be fair, if everyone has raytracing hardware it would be fine to make it required. But the fact that the first game that requires it can't be played with (almost) all ray tracing cards isn't a good precedent.

[@Tech-is1xy]

but most people have ray tracing capable cards. Even console players have ray tracing

[@Dunamos]

@Tech-is1xy looking at the steam hardware survey, while yes a lot do. There are still quite a few that have 1000/1600 series GPUs.

[@aves4270]

Not every pc had hardware acceleration when Quake 3 dropped in 1999

[@calebherring5182]

Jay two cents did a good video about this game. Basically from what I understand they are using the RT cores for the lighting in the game and that’s why it’s required. Also the second tier for 1440p recommendations it has a 7700xt or a 3080TI as the minimum and basically he was saying it’s confusing cause those two cards performance aren’t the same but he said that it’s mainly the vram that’s needed and since nvidia is so stingy on vram the 3080ti is needed cause it his more vram.

[@whitewizard7514]

This game is the Crysis of our generation lol

[@KarimM-m4u]

Except crysis ran well

[@NOBINHO_]

Nope this game doesn’t even look better than games released back in 2016

[@barangurkan]

@@NOBINHO_bro is blind af

[@thavage]

@@KarimM-m4u are you a kid? when Crysis released it chugged on high end hardware.

[@KarimM-m4u]

@@thavage what does my age have to do with this.

[@marcinchreptowicz6843]

This is just a case of devs being incompetent, nothing more.

[@galaxycamerata]

"Ray tracing required" feels like a phrase akin to "Never needs sharpening"

[@HercadosP]

It will probably be a boring walking sim where you occasionally have to press a key to move a boulder around. The story will be extremely mediocre with lazy voice actors. Unoptimized is just part of the larger formula

[@swarthybullxxx]

A walking sim would be better because I watched gameplay footage of the combat and it looks like ass. Microsoft Studios is really stuck in 2010 with the games they produce.

[@MrHungupsidedown]

Not according to all of the early reviews no popping up on KZbin……

[@swarthybullxxx]

@@MrHungupsidedown No gives a shit about what critics think. They were most likely paid to give positive reviews. The regular people who actually played the game said it's mid at best.

[@Nothing-ox1we]

This didn't age very well the geme is optimized pretty good especially compared to stalker2

[@goggamanxp]

Clearly a game made with consoles in mind instead of PC. It manages to run at a near locked 60fps and Raytracing even on the Series S

[@deejayf69]

Y'know. The meme where people wish for less/uglier graphics is becoming so true.

[@judas_saves]

I remember how some older games were super optimized! People could run heavy games on light hardware. Examples? Dying Light, Outlast, MGS - Snake Eater, etc etc...

[@nukeboy7633]

So, you are telling me there will be an Indie game...

[@the_joshi26]

As a young indie dev it hurts to see Game optimisation down the drain. I work on an old Mac book pro from 2015 and every feature I add either lagged the hell out or doesn’t. If it does, I optimise the code until it does. Corporations don’t do that. The should test code on low end devices, so they realise that their code is inefficient, not on a custom $10k pc on which the frames drop from 240-230fps instead of 60-30fps.

[@bryansierra0909]

This is taking “But can it run Crisis” to a new level

[@shahnawazalikhan5005]

Who said somebody in their right minds would even buy that game

[@Winter_Summerlight]

“Will it run Indiana Jones?” Next version of crysis joke😂

[@Scoottheboot670]

I wasn't aware that the requirements were so ridiculous lol. I've been playing it on Xbox though and its actually a pretty solid game!