"okay but is Ravenpaw ACTUALLY gay or do people just say that?"

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Moonkitti

Moonkitti

29 күн бұрын

he's actually gay

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@Moonkitti
@Moonkitti 28 күн бұрын
by the way if you comment something homophobic you're getting whole-channel banned so have fun
@SliceOfPiee
@SliceOfPiee 28 күн бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥
@TheTraumaNewt
@TheTraumaNewt 28 күн бұрын
MoonKitti? You accidentally left out the Star from your name
@pennyandbee5990
@pennyandbee5990 28 күн бұрын
sorry you dropped this CROWN QUEEN 👑👑👑👑
@stabbycats
@stabbycats 28 күн бұрын
woohoo
@verimetagala
@verimetagala 28 күн бұрын
Thank you moonkitti lgbt ally
@notgreatgale
@notgreatgale 28 күн бұрын
"no matter where you go, barley will never stop loving you" -silverstream, WORD FOR WORD, in ravenpaw's farewell
@notgreatgale
@notgreatgale 28 күн бұрын
unfortunately, the main reason behind the lack of canon acknowledgement is likely the fact that these books release worldwide, including in countries whose governments heavily sanction media that includes ANYTHING portraying lgbt themes. yes, it's a dumb reason, because books like wings of fire aren't anywhere near as afraid to include canon lgbt characters (one of the characters is canonically nonbinary for god's sake!!), but it's likely the reason.
@frostpatch2347
@frostpatch2347 28 күн бұрын
There's a gay lion in Bravelands, and those books are being released in the same countries as Warrior Cats. Though I'm not sure if China and Russia got the book where it was confirmed yet
@Whitefoxxxxxxxxxxxx
@Whitefoxxxxxxxxxxxx 28 күн бұрын
Fr
@kateb6699
@kateb6699 28 күн бұрын
Silverstream confirmed gay ally
@frostpatch2347
@frostpatch2347 28 күн бұрын
@@kateb6699 So is Whitestorm
@BluezPlant
@BluezPlant 28 күн бұрын
when a kit talks to you abt your partner and asks "do you have kittens" THERE'S NO WAYYYY to not get the memo
@warriorcatkitty
@warriorcatkitty 27 күн бұрын
ikr.
@3zra._.
@3zra._. 25 күн бұрын
THIS😭 and when they curl up together 🙏 your honor; they’re gay 🫡
@No-longer1
@No-longer1 24 күн бұрын
That was so fucking funny when reading the novella. She was like: I know what you are
@BluezPlant
@BluezPlant 24 күн бұрын
@@No-longer1 LMAOO EXACTLY 😭😭
@KsyTheCatOwo
@KsyTheCatOwo 23 күн бұрын
@@BluezPlant real
@andistansbury4366
@andistansbury4366 28 күн бұрын
And they were barnmates
@BugsyBugYT
@BugsyBugYT 27 күн бұрын
oh god they were barnmates
@cornerfluff
@cornerfluff 24 күн бұрын
im so glad someone finished the quote LMAO
@sindrevangenrobberstad2889
@sindrevangenrobberstad2889 23 күн бұрын
Oh StarClan, they were barnmates
@gaylittlefish
@gaylittlefish 19 күн бұрын
HISTORY HATES LOVERS :(
@treebit
@treebit 10 күн бұрын
"they lived in the same barn and that was enough"
@swiftyoooo
@swiftyoooo 28 күн бұрын
ravenpaw may not be 100% canonically gay but boy he is Not Straight
@bloodpoolssecret4249
@bloodpoolssecret4249 28 күн бұрын
yo fr-
@Hydro_Waterbottle
@Hydro_Waterbottle 28 күн бұрын
i understand this completely
@prageruwu69
@prageruwu69 28 күн бұрын
he's at least canonically into guys
@Marilynn_1275
@Marilynn_1275 28 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@mc.donaldsinc3044
@mc.donaldsinc3044 27 күн бұрын
Yeah I always thought of him more as pan or bi rather than gay
@meganlouise978
@meganlouise978 28 күн бұрын
never read ravenpaw's novella but it's insane that actual literal god came down to him to say "gay rights, love is love"
@luckyeight4148
@luckyeight4148 27 күн бұрын
Actual literal god 💀😂
@hell.sent_chainsaw
@hell.sent_chainsaw 24 күн бұрын
W GOD 😤👌
@pup00o38
@pup00o38 28 күн бұрын
raven and barley have a healthier relationship than majority of the straight couples in the series 😭 like the way they are so kind, understanding, and loving towards each other even when they fight like chefs kiss 💗
@pup00o38
@pup00o38 28 күн бұрын
**in starclan
@MorningRoseCat
@MorningRoseCat 28 күн бұрын
Yeshh, THERE perfect perfection! I love them! They're the perfect ship in the whole tire warrior cats community! ❤
@No-longer1
@No-longer1 24 күн бұрын
Well no wonder, they just chill in a barn choked with mice and are free from any clan bullshit
@CEO_Of_Clybe
@CEO_Of_Clybe 28 күн бұрын
Him and Barely's realtionship is bascically the gender-bent version of the cottage core lesbians.
@mushroomkid4510
@mushroomkid4510 27 күн бұрын
lol so true
@Ice_cl0ud.
@Ice_cl0ud. 27 күн бұрын
They are THE cottage core lesbians
@stormofdogz
@stormofdogz 27 күн бұрын
barn core gays
@CEO_Of_Clybe
@CEO_Of_Clybe 27 күн бұрын
@@stormofdogz That was my exact thought.
@fa1ryf0x3s
@fa1ryf0x3s 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for this comment.
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 28 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw literally DENIED STARCLAN becuase he wanted to watch over Barely and be where he went when he died. He did appear during Bramblestar's leader ceremony but still he had the chance to go to StarClan and did not. Because of Barely. To deny a place in heaven for your partner is a pretty big deal. Imo.
@lunartimberwolf
@lunartimberwolf 28 күн бұрын
@@Diamondr11Bluewell spoilers he died from liver cancer while Barley was crying over his dead body
@sleazyyyy
@sleazyyyy 28 күн бұрын
@@lunartimberwolfokay?
@danielbarnes1241
@danielbarnes1241 28 күн бұрын
That is the gayest shit I've ever heard. I don't see how anyone can deny this lol
@Daisystarrunner
@Daisystarrunner 28 күн бұрын
Just like Pebbleshine rejected starclan for her two newborn kits
@Daisystarrunner
@Daisystarrunner 28 күн бұрын
@@lunartimberwolfYa some people don’t read the books but watch or follow fanart, I read the books but watch spoilers
@prageruwu69
@prageruwu69 28 күн бұрын
"b-b-but cats can't be gay!!😢" cats also can't have organised religion or gain nine lives through magic. man the era of when that was a common argument sucked.
@CreativeName574
@CreativeName574 28 күн бұрын
Plus they can be gay irl
@prageruwu69
@prageruwu69 28 күн бұрын
​@@CreativeName574true! i was just pointing out that even if cats couldn't be gay that wouldn't be a good argument against gay cats in these books.
@CreativeName574
@CreativeName574 28 күн бұрын
@@prageruwu69 agreed
@helloolleh_dis
@helloolleh_dis 28 күн бұрын
@@CreativeName574 is that true? that's actually very interesting
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 28 күн бұрын
@@helloolleh_dis Yeah. Most animal species that are even slightly social have cases of homosexual relationships.
@Overlord9332
@Overlord9332 28 күн бұрын
The closet is glass
@CheeseThePurpleDragon
@CheeseThePurpleDragon 28 күн бұрын
LOL?? this is top comment in my heart
@TwigCommenter
@TwigCommenter 27 күн бұрын
The barn is glass
@Overlord9332
@Overlord9332 27 күн бұрын
@@TwigCommenter LMFAOOOSNWNW
@FreyW-mb2dj
@FreyW-mb2dj 8 күн бұрын
XD THE BARN TOO?!
@misunderstoodangel
@misunderstoodangel 28 күн бұрын
Not right now mom, I’m watching a 23 minute video about gay cat lore 🙄
@ivywing
@ivywing 28 күн бұрын
This is so real lol
@luckyeight4148
@luckyeight4148 27 күн бұрын
Lol
@z-meister6366
@z-meister6366 26 күн бұрын
Real lmao
@scribblecloud
@scribblecloud 26 күн бұрын
unironically im literally experiencing this right now
@RealDedacrab
@RealDedacrab 17 күн бұрын
23 minutes and 1 seconds
@halcyonbuzz
@halcyonbuzz 28 күн бұрын
giving the "barley will never stop loving you" line specifically to silverstream, the platonic ideal of a warrior cats love interest, is honestly full of romantic implications in and of itself
@develrandomdankmemes7586
@develrandomdankmemes7586 25 күн бұрын
facts
@kaitopedestrian
@kaitopedestrian 28 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw is NOT straight. Him and Barley interact like an old married couple it's wonderful
@Daisystarrunner
@Daisystarrunner 28 күн бұрын
I know! I love it to!
@ShroomF0x
@ShroomF0x 27 күн бұрын
@@isaacdeckman7780 womp womp 😔
@Daisystarrunner
@Daisystarrunner 27 күн бұрын
@@isaacdeckman7780 if you don’t like it why are you here?
@Daisystarrunner
@Daisystarrunner 27 күн бұрын
@@AnonymousNightFury017 if you don’t like it why did you click on the vid?
@Littletailedsheep
@Littletailedsheep 17 күн бұрын
I know those people got banned but I’m so tired of homophobic people in lgbtq friendly comment sections trying to bring others down, lgbtq people are 110% valid
@Nebulas49
@Nebulas49 28 күн бұрын
14:43 “Barley and ravenpaw are not gay” says Vicky writing about how “barley leaned against him,smelling warm and soft and familiar”
@randomnpc7773
@randomnpc7773 28 күн бұрын
The warrior cats equivalent of "it's not gay as long as the socks are still on"
@Whitefoxxxxxxxxxxxx
@Whitefoxxxxxxxxxxxx 28 күн бұрын
@@randomnpc7773xD
@heatherbagley7668
@heatherbagley7668 28 күн бұрын
Vicky said calmly
@gingermaniac5484
@gingermaniac5484 25 күн бұрын
well he was never described as having a sweet scent so cleeearly it was a no homo platonic sniffing between bros bein guys /s
@Nebulas49
@Nebulas49 2 күн бұрын
@@gingermaniac5484 I respect your opinion but I think that vicky intended them to be a couple
@astuffedalpaca5365
@astuffedalpaca5365 28 күн бұрын
Also Silverstream of all cats being the one to visit Ravenpaw to tell him that Barley will still love him after he dies feels like it’s intentionally drawing connections between that and Silverstream being separated from Graystripe when she died. Y’know, her explicit lover…
@warriorcatkitty
@warriorcatkitty 27 күн бұрын
yepp
@alexanders8638
@alexanders8638 26 күн бұрын
so true!!
@scribblechild
@scribblechild 14 күн бұрын
for me it was the bit where graystripe was like to ravenpaw you'll miss barley wont you? i remember when i lost MILLIE like gray lost fire his best friend he couldve made that comparison but he chose to compare raven losing barley with losing a mate !!!!
@Romanticoutlaw
@Romanticoutlaw 27 күн бұрын
the majority of straight canon ships in the series: "you smell good" "you smell good too" "wanna have kits?" "yeah sure" the gaycoded ships in the series: "I would reject heaven to stay with you after my death"
@funkyfelineonthecase
@funkyfelineonthecase 27 күн бұрын
dude fr!! romance in warriors was NEVER interesting because most times it has always been explored so little! interactions between mates are most of the time very limited unless they’re on some journey together. however the gay relationships always feel so much sweeter and so much more genuine❤️❤️
@BurntToast-yf8bz
@BurntToast-yf8bz 20 күн бұрын
Bro frr, I have never been this into warriors romance because of how those canon straight ships are portrayed. Ever since I heard of Ravenpaw's farewell and how gay and romantic it was, I was literally giddying in my seat to devour all the others book until I get on the correct timeline to be able to read it lol.
@user-sc6uo6ko1k
@user-sc6uo6ko1k 28 күн бұрын
Even in my homophobic country wiki they are described as a couple . RavenBarly is canon guys.
@Evgeny_Thistle
@Evgeny_Thistle 19 күн бұрын
same!! even russian wiki says they're a couple. confirmed gay couple✅
@lorekeeper2611
@lorekeeper2611 28 күн бұрын
Imagine having written these and seeing moonkitti resurface your decades old writing
@Moonkitti
@Moonkitti 27 күн бұрын
i hope they feel proud if more people see it!! It's really cool they were writing gay cat fanfiction in 2006
@CreativeName574
@CreativeName574 28 күн бұрын
When i was younger i named a fictional cat that would be an adopted child of ravenpaw and barley. Braven. Even young me could tell
@heatherbagley7668
@heatherbagley7668 28 күн бұрын
This is by far one of the best comments on here
@luckyeight4148
@luckyeight4148 27 күн бұрын
Braven is a really cute name though
@PinkSparkleLps
@PinkSparkleLps 27 күн бұрын
Silverstream is the cat goddess of love and she said gay rights
@BurntToast-yf8bz
@BurntToast-yf8bz 20 күн бұрын
Real
@Midnightlunar10
@Midnightlunar10 28 күн бұрын
Are you kidding? Ravenpaw’s still riding that rainbow above his barn.
@anxioussquiddy
@anxioussquiddy 28 күн бұрын
RAVENPAW AND BARELY ARE GAY. ITS 100% CANON I DONT CARE. Bella asks if they have *kits* together. Even a kit can see how close they are.
@5re0r
@5re0r 28 күн бұрын
An author said so. ​@@Diamondr11Blue
@5re0r
@5re0r 28 күн бұрын
@Diamondr11Blue Kate said herself she ships them and wanted them to be Canon, years ago
@MizzyMiz
@MizzyMiz 28 күн бұрын
@@Diamondr11Blue simple harper colins couldn't publish the books in many countries if they dared, some parent's wouldn't even let their kids read it, taking a hit on sales and their money.
@Whitefoxxxxxxxxxxxx
@Whitefoxxxxxxxxxxxx 28 күн бұрын
I thought I was the only one that noticed that 😮😅
@CoffeeKat14
@CoffeeKat14 27 күн бұрын
WAS JUST GONNA POINT THAT OUT
@rowanrawlz1871
@rowanrawlz1871 28 күн бұрын
With the bio image: i think its because whoevers running the site havent read ravenpaws farewell bc they also list him as being in starclan which isnt true
@taeko3508
@taeko3508 28 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw is super gay. Like VERY gay
@subbieway
@subbieway 28 күн бұрын
@@Diamondr11Bluewhy are you replying to every single comment like this?
@Alchemyyyyyy
@Alchemyyyyyy 28 күн бұрын
@@Diamondr11Blue yes, vicky said they were intended to be a couple 19:39
@warriorcatkitty
@warriorcatkitty 27 күн бұрын
the most gay :3
@sabermoons4640
@sabermoons4640 28 күн бұрын
Never realized just how obvious ravenpaws farewell was
@Marilynn_1275
@Marilynn_1275 28 күн бұрын
EXACTLY!! I was shocked by that stuff, not in a bad way ofc. Just pleasantly surprised.
@thatmomentwhen597
@thatmomentwhen597 28 күн бұрын
I haven’t read it in forever I forgot how romantic and utterly tragic it is
@Ice_cl0ud.
@Ice_cl0ud. 27 күн бұрын
I read that book so fast because of how gay it was 😍😍 it was like devouring fanfic
@Marilynn_1275
@Marilynn_1275 27 күн бұрын
@@Ice_cl0ud. ikr??
@warriorcatkitty
@warriorcatkitty 27 күн бұрын
LOL I could never forget
@spoontyphoon8997
@spoontyphoon8997 28 күн бұрын
"Cats can't be gay" is such a hilariously stupid hill to die on when talking about a series where cats can die nine times, have superpowers like dream walking, super hearing and ivincibility, have an afterlife and can reincarnate. Ah yes, all things real cats can do, obviously.
@xXxStarlingxXx
@xXxStarlingxXx 27 күн бұрын
Yes! Also the fact that cats can actually be gay irl
@GayToBeHere
@GayToBeHere 25 күн бұрын
​@@xXxStarlingxXxyup. My cat is definetly gay with my mom's cat so I agree 😂
@No-longer1
@No-longer1 24 күн бұрын
Also nevermind fantastical powers and abilities, the cats painfully obviously don’t develop/grow like normal cats either with some kittens running around and talking at 2 days old when in reality they should be blind and deaf furry potatoes for atleast a week, and this is just treated as normal. Also remember that one time Whitepaw *dislocated* her tail and Leafpool just popped it back into place like it was a joint that misaligned from it’s socket and not the extension of the spine? I sometimes question if the authors have ever handled cats.
@Sensation-iq7kw
@Sensation-iq7kw 23 күн бұрын
Are you saying they're gay like they do the deed with each other or gay as in them interacting with each other. Because, I honestly don't want to keep seeing people call cats gay especially in the Warriors books. I love these books as much as you do. And honestly, if my religious parents see this they will actually stop me from reading it again. So, that's basically why I dislike it when ppl call cats gay.
@garden_creature
@garden_creature 22 күн бұрын
​@@Sensation-iq7kw My cat is gay in real life, his boyfriend unfortunately passed away, but besides that... adult stuff, they cuddled together all the time and spent every moment together. They are also humanized cats in the books, bc ofc real cats can't talk, have deep emotional thoughts, have religions, etc. So they'd logically be gay like humans can be too. I'm sorry about your religious parents, but you can always find the books online or at the library if that happens. Warriors has a very large queer community and we see ourselves in these characters, it's harmless.
@violetskiy854
@violetskiy854 28 күн бұрын
I need lesbian warrior cats.. not fair..
@Lycanmoon31
@Lycanmoon31 28 күн бұрын
We have mothpool. And squirrelmoon. (Moon is that she in squirrel flight's hope, right?)
@k1wishade
@k1wishade 28 күн бұрын
VALID
@user-DragonWhiskers
@user-DragonWhiskers 28 күн бұрын
YES
@seatheaxolotl2109
@seatheaxolotl2109 28 күн бұрын
@@Lycanmoon31 dont forget frostpaw and whistlepaw they have crushes on eachother
@Lycanmoon31
@Lycanmoon31 28 күн бұрын
@@seatheaxolotl2109 those two are adorable together
@niwradxof9616
@niwradxof9616 28 күн бұрын
How can they say he’s not gay? How is that possible? He ain’t straight. Ravenpaw is 100% gay
@MargaretSnead-cm5ip
@MargaretSnead-cm5ip 28 күн бұрын
Vicky saying "drug addiction" will never fit into the series, when that one cat from moth flight's vision exists (the old one with addiction to catmint, i forget his name)
@ashlynlautenbach5265
@ashlynlautenbach5265 28 күн бұрын
On the warrior cats wiki it literally says they love each other. I think they are gay guys and nobody can say otherwise…
@averageanimefan519
@averageanimefan519 28 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw is def in a romantic relationship with Barley. And I'm praying one day we get a sapphic warriors cats couple one day!
@sunnflare
@sunnflare 28 күн бұрын
I haven’t read the most recent book but I’m convinced Frost is gay/bi. I don’t make the rules 🤷‍♀️
@doopydoops2064
@doopydoops2064 27 күн бұрын
I read Squirrelflight's Hope and I'm still not totally convinced The Sisters aren't a band of scrappy witchy lesbians.
@HollowWasHere
@HollowWasHere 24 күн бұрын
@@doopydoops2064The sisters HAVE to be lesbians. I refuse to believe otherwise
@jekell4413
@jekell4413 28 күн бұрын
Good gods these cats GAY. Good for them. Never noticed how clear it is omg
@devinusleton6634
@devinusleton6634 28 күн бұрын
Listen sharing a nest might be acceptable platonically but we sure as fuck don't know if jayfeather or briarlight preferred to be the big spoon that's all I'm saying
@SomeBadDrawings
@SomeBadDrawings 28 күн бұрын
0:58 I remember seeing that part and immediately thinking "yeah. right. sure."
@user-um6gz6ri6d
@user-um6gz6ri6d 25 күн бұрын
i reread Ravenpaw’s Farewell a few months ago. i had accepted that ravenpaw was gay on vibes alone, but that’s what sold the ship for me. they acted like a married couple the entire book. it was cute
@MOUSEBRAINED_MUSHR00M
@MOUSEBRAINED_MUSHR00M 25 күн бұрын
They are a married couple/hj
@howlerbrine
@howlerbrine 28 күн бұрын
Didn't one of the authors write a gay Firestar and greystripe fanfiction one Christmas. Isn't that confirmation enough that the intention was always there to imply there were gay cats
@Moonkitti
@Moonkitti 28 күн бұрын
it's something Kate did on her own, unrelated to the brand. Not canon, basically.
@buzzybeez204
@buzzybeez204 22 күн бұрын
Dude……their relationship is so beautiful……I forgot just how INTENSE all of it was like oh my GOODNESS those cats were LOVERS……
@Totallynotredtail
@Totallynotredtail 28 күн бұрын
15:11 okay but this is actually hilarious 😭😭 Single-handedly the easiest way to communicate a relationship
@ICantDoArt
@ICantDoArt 28 күн бұрын
I’m going to cry if she says he isn’t gay
@UrLocalHellspawn
@UrLocalHellspawn 28 күн бұрын
⁠@@Diamondr11BlueHe’s the only very heavily implied gay cat 😔
@Stormwolf4
@Stormwolf4 28 күн бұрын
Confirmed, Moonkitti has eye lasers.
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 28 күн бұрын
This is making me want to read Ravenpaw's Farewell.
@spectacularslowpoke6018
@spectacularslowpoke6018 28 күн бұрын
Honestly do it, really good novella imo
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 28 күн бұрын
@@spectacularslowpoke6018 Is there an ebook version?
@spectacularslowpoke6018
@spectacularslowpoke6018 28 күн бұрын
@@legrandliseurtri7495 yes there is! I quickly checked iBooks and found it on there so I’m sure it’s on other ebook platforms too
@spectacularslowpoke6018
@spectacularslowpoke6018 26 күн бұрын
@@legrandliseurtri7495 yes there is!
@dovewing8598
@dovewing8598 26 күн бұрын
You should, I remember reading the ending in the hospital bathroom after my grandma had a stroke and crying :'), also, yes, it was def gay, even a young me could spot it from a mile away
@unisamati5478
@unisamati5478 28 күн бұрын
Not only that they're so gay, they're also fit the 'Lean Twink x Bara Bear' the most popular gay ship dynamic trope. (Ravenpaw described as lean and Barley described as Tall, broad-shouldered in Ravenpaw's farewell.)
@unisamati5478
@unisamati5478 28 күн бұрын
17:43 Also, it's kinda funny that Whitestorm watching their relationship in cat's heaven like a netflix drama lmao.
@doopydoops2064
@doopydoops2064 27 күн бұрын
@@unisamati5478 Oh its totally their comfort content after watching the 50th border squabble.
@meeplol145
@meeplol145 21 күн бұрын
Oh, I thought Barley was described to be stout at some point?
@unisamati5478
@unisamati5478 21 күн бұрын
@@meeplol145 Really? In Ravenpaw's farewell it was described 'Barley was broad-shouldered and tall, and there was menace in his growl.' in chapter 7.
@meeplol145
@meeplol145 21 күн бұрын
@@unisamati5478 Barley is said to be short in Firestars quest, he’s still bulky and plump though. I’m not sure why they suddenly decided he was tall? Edit: here it is! “It’s good to see you again,” Firestar meowed. The last time he and Ravenpaw had met was at the battle with BloodClan, when the black cat and his friend Barley had joined in the fight with the forest cats. “Welcome.” Ravenpaw touched noses with his former Clanmate. “Is all well in ThunderClan?” “Fine,” Firestar replied. “But I-” He broke off as another voice called out a greeting. Barley, the black-and-white cat who shared the barn with Ravenpaw, appeared at the top of a pile of straw bales and dropped neatly down at Firestar’s side. He was a short, compact cat, well muscled, even though his belly was a bit too plump from all the mice that lived in the barn. “Do you want to hunt?” he offered. “There’s plenty of prey. Take as much as you like.” “I’m sorry, I can’t,” Firestar answer
@dali-dog
@dali-dog 27 күн бұрын
Was drawing rather than watching and straight up thought you added the "I don't deserve you" line as a joke until I switched tabs and read for myself. And then it just got even more blatantly romantic-sounding from there. Could have convinced me that was a fanfiction you were reading lol. Good for them, good for them.
@chip_pawzz
@chip_pawzz 28 күн бұрын
James L. Barry (a warriors gn artist) litterally posted them sharing a nest with a gay flag over them. pretty obvious
@imaginarylivingbody7154
@imaginarylivingbody7154 27 күн бұрын
James L. Barry himself is gay, so that fact makes the post extra cute to me.
@chip_pawzz
@chip_pawzz 27 күн бұрын
@@imaginarylivingbody7154 yeah
@Sumopian
@Sumopian 24 күн бұрын
oh my gosh you are right
@CelesteTreecat
@CelesteTreecat 28 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw and Barley have more chemistry in the novella than most couples in the main series and I want at least the occasional pair to go there. ... also I still can't see excerpts from Ravenpaw's Farewell without crying AGAIN.
@thatboredaroace
@thatboredaroace 28 күн бұрын
gayvenpaw canon gayvenpaw canon!!!
@clashbloxblitz789
@clashbloxblitz789 28 күн бұрын
In my mind, this is definetly a publisher issue at this point, possibly having to do with censorship in various countries. I'm side-eyeing some of the older author chats, but I genuinely hope and believe that whatever... *Weirdness* came off from the authors' replies was an unfortunate tone issue. Perhaps Vicky meant that homophobia doesn't exist in Warriors? I'm not sure. Barley and Ravenpaw's interactions read so much to me as "old married couple who love eachother very much". They *are* together, no one will ever change my mind. I also don't think anyone should take the Warriors website seriously. It has so much weirdness to it. (Why did you remind me of named shipping??? I need to be put in a retirement home.)
@falcon_arkaig
@falcon_arkaig 28 күн бұрын
I feel like anyone denying that Raven and Barley are a couple are either 1) ignorant and have never read Ravenpaw's Farewell + never saw the author statements or 2) Homophobic. I know I know a pretty big accusation, but istg every time I see someone deny RavenBarley or TallJake 80% of the time they're just being homophobic. Also. I feel like FrostWhistle has the same kinda "vibe" I guess as RavenBarley. They're very close friends and their scenes together can definitely be seen as romantic. I do wish there were more "basically canon but we can't say it in the books" flf ships though.
@strlalikesartlol
@strlalikesartlol 27 күн бұрын
Just a question, but do frostpaw and whistlepaw get more interactions in Wind?
@liberatosanjose7547
@liberatosanjose7547 26 күн бұрын
7:23 and they said they would never tackle drug addiction, but mothflight’s book?? There was a cat addicted to catnip!
@FriedEgg_Oden
@FriedEgg_Oden 28 күн бұрын
The writers knows he’s gay, but someone is stopping them from saying it publicly because they’re afraid of people getting mad about it😭
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 27 күн бұрын
Mmm that and the whole getting banned in some countries which would stop some fans from being able to access the books😣 one day this will no longer be an issue I hope and pray for everyone to be accepted everywhere ❤
@StarrySwirly
@StarrySwirly 28 күн бұрын
When I was little I thought Ravenpaw was a girl because the romance between him and Barley was so apparent even to my 10 year old didn't-know-that-gay-people-existed self
@MADRAMUZZLE
@MADRAMUZZLE 28 күн бұрын
They’re the Antonio and Bassanio of warrior cats. Very gay but not confirmed by the author.
@Theaterkid195
@Theaterkid195 28 күн бұрын
Making this after pride month is such a power move
@Domestos_otwiera
@Domestos_otwiera 24 күн бұрын
Hii! REALLY IMPORTANT! Vicky Holmes CONFIRMED OFFICIALY that Ravenpaw and Barley ARE INDEED TOGETHER! It was on Pyrkon (convention) and I was here and heard it myself. She said that they are mates but at the time she didn't want to write controversial things in the book so she doesn't get complains about it!
@ironwolf5802
@ironwolf5802 27 күн бұрын
Even if they can't put the arrow in the bullseye, they can fill the entire target with arrows till you can't see the bullseye.
@charabee388
@charabee388 28 күн бұрын
I had this shit figured out YEARS ago, mfs need to pull themselves together
@skyrie_on_talons
@skyrie_on_talons 20 күн бұрын
Plus, cats irl can be gay. One of my friends has two cats that they got when they only wanted one. They desperately wanted one of them, but they were being sold as a bonded pair. They were not brothers. These baby boy cats literally sleep on top of each other, groom each other, and are very adorable. If they aren't gay then idk what is.
@anonymous-rq2lh
@anonymous-rq2lh 23 күн бұрын
8:31 two bros, chilling on a hay bale, 1 ft apart ‘cause they’re implicitly gay!
@Ivypool123
@Ivypool123 28 күн бұрын
he ia definitely gay I don't care what the Erins say thats canon for me
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 28 күн бұрын
As is stated in the video itself, the writers can only imply these relationships because so many countries they sell the books to would ban anything that is Explicitly LGBT in themes😅 but at least we know the intent is they’re a thing. They’re not officially ‘mates’ but they stayed together 😊
@RandomTheIdiot55
@RandomTheIdiot55 24 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw and Barley could passionately kiss with tongue and people would still find a way to argue that they’re just close guy friends. Just bros.
@hell.sent_chainsaw
@hell.sent_chainsaw 24 күн бұрын
You CANNOT tell me that 2 farmers that close can't be gay. ITS A FUCKING CLICHÉ 😭
@jellyowl2644
@jellyowl2644 27 күн бұрын
What if the reason they aren't listed as mates is because their relationship is unlabeled? They dont care what they are as long as they're ❤️
@childeofepickness
@childeofepickness 27 күн бұрын
ok this theory slays I love that
@warriorcatkitty
@warriorcatkitty 27 күн бұрын
aghh ravenpaw's farewell always makes my cry WHY MUST YOU DO THIS TO ME also yeah they are very gay. I'm glad the fandom is less homophobic nowadays, back then it was so bad sometimes.
@drumandbass69
@drumandbass69 22 күн бұрын
real i legit just cried nonstop after being reminded of all the amazingly written texts in that book 😭 it's such a wonderful relationship it truly baffles me that anyone could deny it
@webfeii
@webfeii 28 күн бұрын
ravenpaw x barley is the most loving and sweet pairing in warriors, i fear no other pairings compare
@acenothankss
@acenothankss 21 күн бұрын
i also like the fact that they said “no drug addiction” but imposterstar literally gets addicted to poppy seeds
@grayventras1235
@grayventras1235 28 күн бұрын
Where's the James L Barry art of them literally with the rainbow I need it for this
@StinginqNettle
@StinginqNettle 28 күн бұрын
I just opened youtube before this uploaded wondering if there was a new moonkitti video, watched something else, then this showed up I think I'm god
@h.ad3s
@h.ad3s 28 күн бұрын
new talking video to eat for lunch thank you moonkitti 🫡
@oumota.
@oumota. 27 күн бұрын
Moon this video made me cry thank you so much for this analysis i love them so much
@doopydoops2064
@doopydoops2064 27 күн бұрын
Omg twinsies!!
@Izzydragons5163
@Izzydragons5163 28 күн бұрын
1:25 “Onestar making me feel uncomfortable” We all feel the same Moonkitti
@randomdoodlesstudios9215
@randomdoodlesstudios9215 28 күн бұрын
This is something I’ve been wondering. Thanks for this.
@wormonastring6888
@wormonastring6888 27 күн бұрын
I haven't read the series since I was a child, I only keep even a little up to date via moonkitti videos these days, so it's lovely to know that ravenpaw's farewell was such a decisive answer
@ConvincingPeople
@ConvincingPeople 24 күн бұрын
The carefully dodging having to give a very special version of the "birds and bees" talk to a small child when they ask why you and your partner don't have children really is The Queer Adult Experience in a nutshell.
@Rulose
@Rulose 28 күн бұрын
And they were barnmates Omg they were barn mates😮
@Tofu_The_Opossum
@Tofu_The_Opossum 24 күн бұрын
12:15 yes the perfect opportunity to talk about my favorite ship: Sunfish x Leopardfur! For leopardstar entire super edition sunfish is around to support her and When leopardkit is being bullied by her siblings Skykit and Blackkit Sunfish comforts her and when Skykit tries to drown Leopardkit sunkit notices her hiding in the nursery and invites her to play then when they are apprentices Sunfish starts crushing on this really creepy senior warrior who nobody ever talks about. Leopardpaw was scared of swimming because of almost drowning and sunfish helps her swim and they have this really cute moment where they swim out to the river and catch a fish and bring it back to camp to share. Then when they are warriors Sunfish mentions that now that shes a warrior Beetlenose (the creepy old tom) likes her back and Leopardfur quite literally storms away because she’s JEALOUS (and shes been shown to dislike Beetlenose so theres no chance she was jealous for that reason) And then theres a timeskip and Sun and Beetle have a kit and Leopardfur is basically coparenting with Sunfish because Beetlenose is a tom and toms never have to parent in warriors. And then Sunfish gets attacked by Redtail in battle and gets a really bad infected wound and Leopardfur visits her everyday and Sunfish tells leopardfur if she doesn’t make it to be a mom to Whitepaw (her kit) and that night she dies and Whitepaw wakes Leopardfur up and tells her and she pulls whitepaw into her nest and he stays there mourning until the next morning And when Whiteclaw dies (from being thrown in the gorge by Graystripe) she worries if Sunfish will ever forgive her for failing to keep her promise to protect him (Also not a sunfish moment but another example of leopardstar being extremely gay Leopardstar refers to Silverstream as the most beautiful shecat ever multiple times)
@Moonkitti
@Moonkitti 24 күн бұрын
I wish Sunfish and Leopardfur were on the same level (as something like jake tallstar)... It's so frustrating in the book
@Tofu_The_Opossum
@Tofu_The_Opossum 24 күн бұрын
@@Moonkitti do you like Leopardfur and Sunfish too? 👀 (can you please draw them when you have time)
@sindrevangenrobberstad2889
@sindrevangenrobberstad2889 23 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw and Barley's relationship to Bella and Riley really did read like the cool gay uncles
@_.Sp.a.rk._
@_.Sp.a.rk._ 25 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw’s farewell was about crossing that rainbow bridge but he never really got OFF it
@snoopdewhoops
@snoopdewhoops 25 күн бұрын
i’ve never read a warrior cat book in my life (and that’s saying a lot bc i was a huge book nerd in the ages 5-13) but the part where Ravenpaw dies low key made me tear up. i respect old man yaoi angst in any form
@lakthederg
@lakthederg 14 күн бұрын
i have no idea about warrior cats lore but i do appreciate a good proper gay canonization
@Vision-kn2yi
@Vision-kn2yi 14 күн бұрын
Warrior cats lore is extremely addictive
@meevins
@meevins 13 күн бұрын
i would not call this good proper gay canonization, it's about on par with disney rep and i'm really tired of people giving the writers credit they do not deserve but i'm glad it's there! it's something at least
@The_Spearmaster
@The_Spearmaster 26 күн бұрын
okay, but is it that they are gay or that they are European? 🎵 they are Gay and European.🎵
@Mars.runner
@Mars.runner 25 күн бұрын
Warrior Cats homophobes when they find out about Clangen: 😨
@doubleguyzer
@doubleguyzer 19 күн бұрын
So glad youtube recommended me your videos again, im now binge watching them. Very informative and entertaining! I used to watch you all the time back when i was invested in warriors
@Spirtwolf1
@Spirtwolf1 28 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw and barley is the least toxic ship I’ve ever seen
@user-dr8jb1ge8c
@user-dr8jb1ge8c 27 күн бұрын
This and ivyfern are two of my tops for least toxic lol
@Sweetest_Love
@Sweetest_Love 28 күн бұрын
When I saw the cover of the video, I thought this was about what color is Scourge’s collar… 😅😅😅
@ticholopeluche
@ticholopeluche 27 күн бұрын
Same lol
@Just-Vibin.
@Just-Vibin. 28 күн бұрын
Ravenpaw is so silly I love him.
@noiz_y
@noiz_y 26 күн бұрын
This is the best thumbnail youve ever made no debate
@Lycanmoon31
@Lycanmoon31 28 күн бұрын
3:09 nostalgia
@daydreamer8941
@daydreamer8941 28 күн бұрын
I like how after his awful time in Thunderclan Ravenpaw lived a relatively peaceful life wifh Barley . I wish more clan cats got more of a choice if they really want to be warrior cats or be loners. Since usually starclan now is like no you have to be a warrior or medicine cat because vague propechy reasons
@pintsizedchaos
@pintsizedchaos 27 күн бұрын
The manga artist posting fanart with rainbow heart gifs gives me life
@Luna_moon_1127
@Luna_moon_1127 27 күн бұрын
16:57 “ sorry barley we don’t have any herbs for” ate a whole bunch of green intended for chickens for seven years”😂😂😂😂😂 ok I’m dying 😂❤😂
@clementinekitten8305
@clementinekitten8305 27 күн бұрын
i physically felt myself turning to dust when she mentioned the term "lonershipping"
@Lottie8o8
@Lottie8o8 28 күн бұрын
I love how gay they are for each other and that's that I only regret that we can have realy fleshed out lesbian couple in Warrior Cats... such a shame...
@Lottie8o8
@Lottie8o8 28 күн бұрын
*can't
@Sumopian
@Sumopian 24 күн бұрын
to be fair, these still aren’t technically canon. the gays ain’t exactly winning this one either friend
@echopeak5953
@echopeak5953 28 күн бұрын
NOOOO don't remind me how much I love Ravenpaw x Barley!!!! They're too cute ToT
@oumota.
@oumota. 27 күн бұрын
THANK YOU I LOVE LONG ANALYSES OF CHARACTERS I LOVE AND CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS AND THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SUBCONSCIOUSLY CIRCLING IN MY MIND
@forsetimaster0689
@forsetimaster0689 23 күн бұрын
This might be a bit unrelated, but Ravenpaw was my favorite character in Warrior Cats from the small amount of it I read. I never really liked the series (I'm mostly subbed for the WOF content), but he always felt way more compelling compared to the sea of bland, uninteresting characters. Honestly I would have probably kept reading if he was the focus instead of Fireheart.
@dixitwastaken
@dixitwastaken 27 күн бұрын
Regardless of whether or not RavenBarley is a thing the idea that animals can't have gay relationships is just... incredibly untrue? Even though a lot of research on the topic has all been done fairly recently (because. you know. queer people have notoriously been a taboo subject for a very long time) we've still found evidence of gay couples being a thing in 1000+ species, and obviously there's plenty of room for more examples that we haven't found yet. While other animals are likely going to have different ideas of relationships than humans do, it's not fair to automatically assume that there wouldn't be any same-sex couples in any of the other millions of species we have on Earth??? The idea that same-sex couples are strictly a human thing just makes me feel like these people are still seeing gay couples as something unnatural or that it works differently than attraction between heterosexual partners. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that this bias is unintentional and that they aren't intentionally trying to be homophobic but regardless it's an idea that needs to be unlearned! (As a bonus if you actually read this whole ramble then as a treat I think you should look up the pink dragon millipede! It's not related to this conversation at all but if you're into arthropods like I am then it's a cool little guy!!! If you don't like arthropods then look at the silky anteater because they're cute. And also have a nice day!!!!!!!)
@PrinceRiot
@PrinceRiot 27 күн бұрын
Pride month may be over but moonkitti will carry us through
@marmartin9822
@marmartin9822 26 күн бұрын
God I remember Warriorswish, also that Fields of Gold fic was 100% responsible for me shipping Raven/Barley and I miss when we used to have cute ship names omg ALSO: The way Ravenpaw’s farewell is written is done in a way that English speaking readers absolutely read it as romantic but you could make, for example, a Russian translation, and have it translated to read as platonic while still technically being accurate.
Spottedleaf's feelings are probably a retcon
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