Okay, I DEFINITELY Understand The Hype Behind This Brand Now! - Sire Marcus Miller V7

[@jdssurf]

One month before covid shut everything down I saw Marcus play in a small jazz club in Los Angeles…….got to hang with him after………of the hundreds of shows I’ve been to, I can’t believe how powerful that show was. Unreal.

[@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917]

I saw SMV back in 2008 in SF. I was probably the youngest person in the room but it was an amazing show. Stanley Clarke, Marcus Miller, and Victor Wooten. Actually what dreams are made of.

[@DrummClem]

I'm a beginner. I fell in love with this neck. Tried it, couldn't leave the store without it.

[@carpediemarts705]

Neck is everything. Put whatever electronics in a wooden body to make your ears happy, but I PLAY BASS TO MAKE MY HANDS HAPPY

[@thememorycard5802]

I got a Sire V3 2nd gen in 2021 and I adore it. The rolled frets are so comfortable. I've also seen a decent amount of hate for the headstock design which has never made the slightest bit of sense to me.

[@MarcG7424]

Some people think you can play a headstock it's not the most beautiful thing in the world but it's not hideous either

[@johndardi1334]

What’s wrong with the headstock? Looks fine to me. Looks almost like a Fender. What don’t you like about it?

[@norbertkazmierowski]

@@johndardi1334 He didn't say he doesn't like that headstock.

[@fortza11]

I like the headstock, it´s new, and it is it's own - I get a little tired of looking at fenders. So it seems like that fender is still working in the old days, and Sire has just taken this a step up, and believe me, Marcus Miller would not put his name on something crap!

[@apo11o2]

I agree, I actually think the Fender headstock is ugly as **** it’s the reason I won’t buy one.

[@dialect64]

Ive heard people say they had issues with the first generation, and I admit that my P pickup in my first gen P7 5 died after 4yrs... But at its insanely low pricepoint for the quality, I bought it to be a starting point to customize it to my dream pbass, and NOW IT IS! Dropped a Nordstrand P pickup in there, all hipshot hardware, stewmac MOP topped knobs, and had a custom pickguard made of aircraft carbon fiber. It is a glorious bass!

[@Nico_Aslanidis]

Am I the only one that actually loves the design of Sire's headstocks?

[@jimsuber6784]

Nope I like it too. I know when someone is playing one without the cursory glance that says Fender (Which I also like) THe best thing about the headstock is the truss rood access. and the three way string tree.

[@jamesgadd8341]

I really dig them as well.

[@MarkedForJazz]

At first I wasn't a fan, but over time, I've fallen in love with it, and even prefer it to the Fender headstock

[@FilipBass2]

Im a Sire player, but i hate those headstocks too... But they look quite okay in 5 string version, that fifth tuner nicely fills up the space, and neck is wider, so that headstock doesnt look that big.

[@jfv2312]

As a proud owner of a V7 Vintage, I have to say Sire is one of the best things that happened to the electric bass this century. The headstock is ugly, but I got used to it with time. For me, the biggest problem is that I live in a really humid zone, and the bass catches rust relatively easy

[@Breeze_b_hard]

Do you keep it in a case?

[@jfv2312]

@@Breeze_b_hard in the Sire soft case for their P and V series basses to be precise. I know it's not as good as a hard case but I already had one and it didn't fit there.

[@DeanBolz]

A lot of people say that about the headstock. I think it looks great.

[@pascallebrun4370]

I definitely love the headstock. There are so much ugly headstocks designs out there compared to this one.

[@davidvitale9338]

I agree. I have no problem with the headstock.

[@EricWard001]

I didn't like it much at first, but I realized it looked a bit like a cool knife. And watching Forged in Fire has made me appreciate it more.

[@Blakelysworld358]

buzzard beak forever!

[@michaelb.42112]

That's funny because a lot of TB'ers hate them. I like them and don't understand why the shape is a deal breaker unless it's really lame.

[@carpediemarts705]

4 strings, one piece of wood, how many options are there?

[@jreschke5]

I really like the playing in the beginning. That was so sweet.

[@cameroncatanzaro2582]

love the vids dont stop them

[@patrickhunter]

I love your comment, and I ain't stopping 🤘

[@cameroncatanzaro2582]

@@patrickhunter thats what i want to hear lol 🤘🤘

[@room34]

I bought a Sire P8 a couple months ago - finally - after being burned again and again by Fender's shoddy QC. I absolutely love it. I think it's better than the Fender American Ultra… at least, the ones they've been producing in the past couple of years. And it's less than half the price. (And I'll give your sponsor a boost here too… I bought mine from Sweetwater, and they were great as always!) P.S. Yeah, the headstock… that's the main reason I waited so long to try Sire. I'm getting used to it though.

[@danebridges]

I've been gigging with a First Gen Sire P7 for about 4 years now and it is hands down the best bass I've ever owned right next to my Mexican P Bass, the thing's a tonal tank and has pretty much never steered me wrong. So glad to see you covering Sire, they're the best bang for your buck for sure! (Arguably better than fender at times) but that's up to the player.

[@grahamhall2662]

If someone had not mentioned the shape of the headstock I would never have noticed! Looks very functional to me.

[@jsgovind]

The v7 is amazing for more old school bass tones. You really need to try the M7 sometime if you haven't. It has so many tone options with the pickup switches, active/passive switch and that amazing preamp.

[@ZombiePenguinStudios]

i'm 100% in agreement on the headstock that's one of the reasons why i've never pulled the trigger on one of these idk if i'd get over it, probably would but just having to get used to it is something i dread

[@patrickhunter]

Hell, I'm wondering if anyone has sanded their Sire headstock down to a thin Tele Bass style before lol

[@ZombiePenguinStudios]

@@patrickhunter that would be an upgrade on the current design 😅 there’s gotta at least be one

[@dominikkavur5373]

The headstock isn't really that ugly..i love it. Was hasitant at first and it does look weird on photos, but in real life it looks fine.

[@theshuriken]

@@dominikkavur5373 I agree there are far more uglier headstocks out there

[@ZombiePenguinStudios]

@@JM-ub9cl G&L is pretty sick but man, it looks like they just didn't brainstorm hard enough on possible headstock designs IMO

[@ruskasielu6261]

Got this exact bass used with dimarzio pickup in exchange for my 5-string LTD, I'm so glad i accepted. I never looked back since, and I'm planning on getting a second one at some point !

[@simonsk8d]

05:09 aliasing phenomenon in the wide string just make it more epic 🤩

[@SlickWillie]

thanks for the review - currently looking at the p7/p8 line . after all the research i think these are great for the pricepoints

[@bioof4]

I’ve never been able to find a watchable and genuinely entertaining bass KZbin until now.

[@makumbolindo3566]

I got the V7 2016 1st gen. and I never regret i got it. an awesome bass

[@saulpanzergames]

I've got the same "scuffing" on the binding of my P7, it's not a rare imperfection at all...mine wasn't a demo model, it was fresh off the delivery from Sire to the store. Not a huge issue for me, I love Sires enough to be planning my 3rd one, despite the headstock which is not a pretty thing.

[@garnetbezanson1404]

Honestly I don't mind the headstock that much. It looks fine to me.

[@CommunRyder]

I'll say it again, man, I love your riffs!! And I agree with you on the headstock...

[@garyd2559]

Love the way you play man, super soulful, bass chording, percussive in places. And you enjoy it too. Good job explaining the controls, I have one I just got and it still confuses me and that's from someone who owns a Fender Jaguar 😂

[@kroliia3116]

I’m a beginner and I bought the Sire P7 but the 5-string version. I see professional people with multiple basses for different situations. I just got the 5-string so I could have it if I ever needed it. It’s a really pretty bass, LOL I laugh when people clown the headstock though. I didn’t notice that the headstock was weirdly shaped until others pointed it out

[@ZachariahConnor]

I dig the headstock, it’s different and not that bad (to me)

[@FULLonARMOR]

I have this bass in vintage white! What an incredible bass. Your so right about the pre Amp very versatile. The neck is very comfortable and smooth. I got used to the enormous headstock and now that it's not such an obstacle I actually like it.

[@marcusstrymon693]

Is it true that its too heavy hand has wild beckdive?

[@FULLonARMOR]

@@marcusstrymon693 when playing while seated it's a bit of a balancing act. I have not noticed to much neck dive when standing.

[@marcusstrymon693]

@@FULLonARMOR I do only playbseating in the studio I am deciding between the v7 or the fender players plus j bass But the fender costs double and still weighs 10 lbs plus is mexico

[@hof8231]

I always look for your videos on basses because you always play a few riffs similar to the style of music I play. Not that the other reviewers out there aren't great, but their feather touch finger picking or all slap demos don't really give me an idea of what the bass will sound like for me. Thanks for what you do!

[@carpediemarts705]

Id like to hear the guy just jam.

[@trashcat1031]

All the features on this bass makes me want the U5 Sire Short Scale. Another great video Patrick.

[@blakedailey7185]

I’m “patiently” waiting on my V7 in Metallic Burgundy to get in at Sweetwater. Very hyped to get my hands on it, by all accounts the Sires blow similarly priced Squier/MIM Fender out of the water.

[@cyrilgleiman7202]

still waiting for my v5 ...fingers crossed

[@jackhancock9862]

The 5 string version of this is on my shortlist . Looks like a fantastic instrument. I can’t get behind the headstock either though!

[@calvinwilds46]

Don't worry once you play it you will not think about the headstock i have a lakland was my love got vintage v7 5 string loved it so much I got 4 string p7 once you play it it's over IMO peace

[@billholder1330]

groovin' on your intro playing - nice!

[@Incursion56]

The amount of knobs that sire finds it’s able to put on its basses never ceases to amaze me. Knobs galore, knobs for miles🤦🏻‍♂️

[@prestachuck2867]

I agree. I converted my V7 2nd Gen to V-V-T with a three hole Fender control plate, but then I really missed that three band preamp. Even without boosting or cutting, it just does something mysterious that makes the bass sound a little bit more lively, so I switched it back to stock.

[@rfuriati]

I have V7 alder 1rst gen and sound range getting is Great . I’ m happy

[@stephenshoihet2590]

I dont totally hate the headstock, i think the one on my M7 is worse and looks like they made it from some wood left over from making other parts... but i guess there's only so many things you can do to make it different than a Fender. I love the neck and fretboard, i think they have fantastic value! Sire seems to have some relation to Dame? which wouldn't be surprising with those names...

[@91cog]

Ohhhh yes! Even the cheaper V3 gen 2 is a great bass. There’s so much value, considering these are around the same price as the Squier Classic vibes

[@Shadoweclipse1386]

Those pickups sound good!! I'm not very well-versed on Jazz Basses, but I like it! I find it interesting that there are a ton basses out there that add a bridge-side Jazz pickup with other pickups (MusicMan humbuckers or a Fender P-type), when I feel like the Jazz neck pickup is one of the best sounding bass pickup positions around!

[@ampthebassplayer]

Once you see the moose head in the headstock shape, you'll never unsee it.

[@prestachuck2867]

BULLWINKLE!😁

[@travieso1ruvalcaba672]

What an artist you are man. I'm here for the jam out specifically.

[@bassnsax]

I used to own a MIJ Marcus Miller signature Fender, and this video has got me MISSING IT SOMETHIN' FIERCE! Yeah, the headstock isn't the best looking...but I don't look at the headstocks of my basses much (I might be the only weirdo like that 😂). If you can, you should try out their new D5 and P5, and maybe the P7!

[@ClTlZEN_X]

Sweetwater is awesome! Waiting for my Sire V7 4 strings to be shipped when Sweetwater gets it from Sire.

[@meespeeters826]

I see you're spicing up the demo tracks, I dig it alot!!

[@patrickhunter]

It's fun adding spice and everything nice, thanks for noticing!🤘

[@la196]

I preordered and bought mine when they first launched the 1st batch ever. Got a V7 RW. But it's a heavy beast! What took you so long to discover this incredible line of instruments. The electronics are ridiculous too! Build quality second to none! Like the shape or not, over the past couple few years, when you see someone playing a V7...that headstock has become it's trademark. Best bang for the buck. You should take the V5 short scale for a ride:)

[@michaeljoeallen9412]

Amazing high level functionality. V7 alder and p7ash5. My only regret was not getting the v7 in 5 string.

[@prestachuck2867]

I have a 2nd Gen V7 Fretless. I don't really like the look of the headstock, but then I don't have to look at it while I am playing. Dang, the neck is just so slick and fast feeling though. It's hard to put down once I am into a set with it.

[@tramer76]

Hmm. Never seen Patrick give a bad review on anything before so I'm not surprised he's praising Sires

[@ugifr9538]

I have a m5 and totally love it. sire is a godlike price performance brand

[@patrickhunter]

I definitely want to try one of the M series! They look BEASTLY

[@jamesmarkham7489]

My ride or die is an '02 fender mim jazz. If i didnt have that i would def be picking one of these up.

[@MegaJames1987]

Totally agree about the headstock. Can't put my finger on why though 🤔

[@UdoU-k2b]

This pre-release V7 has the V8 bridge on it. They must have decided to go cheaper on the current offerings with the V7 Gen 2 as it does not have the heavier bridge. Is that accurate?

[@michael_caz_nyc]

It sounds really good. I do agree about the headstock, but if it sounds & plays great ( I'd overlook it or Re-Shape it? ). I love the Suhr headstock the best. I'd consider this bass, if I hadn't just-bought a Sterling Stingray SS-4. Enjoyed your demo.

[@marklowe7431]

The preamps f'kn awesome.

[@cyclotron676]

I actually love the headstock.

[@tofftoffinou1930]

Soo bad that people are stopping just by a headstock.. got many US Fender (precision, JB) and recently bought a V5R 5str... and Im Just amazed how qualitative it is for the price (got mine for less than 500 euros!).

[@sebastianvirga1015]

Sounds so much better without all of the distortion

[@herryong]

Just try V9 with Ebony frettboard. You will get more shock 😁

[@MarcG7424]

Thanks for the full disclosure at the beginning of the video. I haven't tried a V7 but I keep hearing they are pretty heavy but I'm a see for myself type of guy and I never buy a instrument I don't touch first can't wait to try one

[@prestachuck2867]

My V7 Gen.2 Fretless was 9.5lbs out of the box, a tuner upgrade actually shed about a quarter of a pound. Now it's really nice. Well balanced.

[@michaelblaney4461]

Side to side with one of my Fenders the Sire headstock is smaller .

[@droppinlikefliesBand]

I have to agree with you, the headstock is what’s deterring me from this purchase. Headstocks are a killer to me and its so damn stupid yet I can’t get past it LoL.

[@ugu80]

I never regret having one.

[@suk4ed]

What about some Japanese brands - Bacchus, Fujigen etc

[@davelock3166]

I don't mind the headstock on mine, but the knobs feel cheap. Try the short scale U5. Probably the best on the market for the price.

[@cbenn93308]

Hi Patrick - How does the neck on the Sire v7 compare to the Fender Precision Bass? Is the neck more like a Fender Jazz Bass? Thank you - and great playing!

[@prestachuck2867]

I know it's a year later, so you probably have your answer by now. Here is my response anyway, in case anybody else is just now reading this. V7 is much more Jazz Bass like. I have a Sire V7 2nd Gen fretless, and Fender Player Precision LTD. The Player Precision is noticeably wider at the nut, and feels thicker from the front to the back from about the first fret to somewhere around the middle of the range, but only just slightly. Enough to really notice when playing at speed down below the 7th or 8th fret position. Where the neck joins the body, the necks are about the same thickness and width.

[@HarryPothead4304]

​@@prestachuck2867 It took you 14 months to answer him Patrick?

[@prestachuck2867]

@@HarryPothead4304 I am not Patrick.

[@HarryPothead4304]

@@prestachuck2867 Oh okay, then you must be Patrick's advocate.

[@prestachuck2867]

@@HarryPothead4304 Nope. Just a professional bass player who saw the video, skimmed the comments, and decided to be helpful.

[@docbob1182]

Agree about the headstock - if it's as good in sound & playability, WTF, I don't have to look at it when I'm playing it & there must be some way to mod that headstock, right?!

[@aaronl7669]

wow, you're such a great bass player. i love your videos

[@patrickhunter]

Thanks man, I appreciate that!

[@trevorstewart5518]

So weird. I like this headstock a lot more than any of Fender's designs.

[@bigmandoman]

Hi. Thanks for the review! I was wondering - what's the tune you're playing at the start?

[@MrTeijo]

I wonder if the fretless version is worth a look. Been gassin for a fretless 5 string for some time now. Nice work with here though!

[@alanwadey2848]

I have a fretless V7 vintage 4 string, it is very nice

[@issedabelangriekhekkeoenet7542]

I was wondering what happens while playing active and the battery went empty. Can you swith right away to play passive?

[@edenite]

Yes

[@arlowolf1690]

Truly, the headstock is no more offensive that the Fender shark fin, or the G&L

[@jburtonca]

8:02 looks just like a Spector NS2

[@oscarsantos2608]

I'm not a fan of the headstock too, but just close your eyes and enjoy the sound!

[@jonse6]

I agree with all the headstock comments but my M2 is lovely and has a very suitable headstock for the guitar, and the same pre-amp as these 👍

[@michaelblaney4461]

I didn't like headstock at first once you have the bass you forget about the headstock.

[@autoazure]

Nice bass and video, pity regarding the annoying high rising terminal or upspeak!

[@dezsodebreceni4829]

i love the headstock :ccc

[@rome8180]

My only complaint with Sire is I wish they'd take more risks with their finishes. Their guitars are awesome too, btw. If you ever need a great guitar for $600, you can't beat the new Larry Carlton models. There's a Telecaster-style, a Les Paul, a Strat, and an ES-335. I believe they're not at Sweetwater yet, but I had a chance to a try a couple. Wait...are we allowed to talk about guitars on this channel? Please don't take away my bass player's card. Bass is still my one true love.

[@BenchNO]

Why does the bridge on my Sire V7 and the one on the sweetwater link in the description look different compared to the one in the video?

[@valendis]

I had one but I always found that bass to lack of punch for an active bass, also I hate the huge cavity for the trussrod right in the middle of the pickguard

[@steveothebassist]

When you have it in passive mode, do you have a tone knob?

[@joetspaulding]

the head stock looks good if you like the hockey stick look :)

[@BudiPrasetyoHarsono]

I have the first gen. Really love ig!

[@NelsonMontana1234]

Had one. Good bass. But it wasn't quite a J. Not as great at slapping as I had hoped. (The Music Man and Ibanez are better). Felt a little unbalanced. (Oversized headstock?) It was also really heavy. Sold it.

[@Martin-lj9jj]

So I did... Fender rules...

[@mjolnircarlssen4211]

Site are great basses. The pickups are fine, just a bit aggressive for me, so I switch those out. Otherwise, love these basses.

[@acoolcat4269]

hey is the bass have a humming noise?

[@esposoman]

Back in 2019 I had a fly gig in Norway and the promoter said that he could borrow me a bass. Right off the airport we went to the hotel and from the hotel to the venue.When I arrived I found the 5 string version of this bass in the dressing room. A couple of hours later I was playing a gig with a bass and an amp which I never used before. I remember being very comfortable playing it. It's a good choice for a less than 1000 bucks bass and yes.. that headstock...ewww!

[@DerMatticusFink]

Thankfully, I have no problem with the headstock.

[@thijsroeterink]

This headstock needs a re-shape and the name Sire on it.

[@void0094]

I am holding one in my hands right now

[@skylork1990]

Deciding between this and the G&L tribute sb 2. Whats your suggestion?

[@romanlopina5120]

Tbh the g&l jb line seems like a better steal to me. Still cool and I would be lying if I said I haven't looked at them

[@akkunzero]

if they change the design of headstock, they would gain more fans.

[@steffomca762]

Tbh i don't get why so many people don't like this headstock. It might not be beautiful, but in my opinion it's okay. It gives to the bass its own personality and it makes it more recognizable

[@j.juarez9526]

Totally agree. It is a deal-breaker. It's so goofy and awkward.

[@Efrumful]

At least put a better looking logo on it. Make the name in a script text, or something. Reminds me of a font I'd use on a cover letter for a resume.

[@dudeudontknow341]

It’s still better looking than the starcaster headstock

[@calvinwilds46]

I've played for almost 50 years I don't care they sound great I have 2 headstock has nothing to do with the sound

[@stevenscott9983]

That's a nice bass.

[@TedTalksBass]

Ya'll bout to make me go on and get another sire

[@ditapaulcostin8077]

what is the name of the first song?

[@danieltaylor4882]

Curious to know, if you do, does the pick up blend still work in passive mode? Sorry if this is an obvious thing, noob trying to find my first bass.

[@patrickhunter]

Sure does!

[@cedcobasse]

Yes blend and passive tone works without battery, it was important for me too, si i tried it

[@kalvino67]

Are Marcus Miller basses good for beginners or should I be looking at Fender? I come from an acoustic guitar background so I was hoping for a bass that is not too heavy and easy playability. I know they make short scale models as well. Any advice?

[@cedcobasse]

I owned 4 fender jazz bass, 2 us and 2 mex, and i tried a sire v7 first gen, for me the sire's neck was a bit easier to play but fender is good too for beginers, you won't go wrong with those basses. I had a sterling short scale bass too wich was one of the most confortable bass i've played, very easy to play and sounds awesome, take the one you like more, they are all great basses

[@flipdry]

I've been wondering this for a while, but do you have a heavy picking hand or is it just the frame rate of the video that makes the strings look like they move a lot?

[@matthew8366]

He has a super high FPS camera. He also does play pretty hard.

[@ganiakyuz]

Hello, can i ask something? I m new bass player, why are you wearing that bracelet-like thing on the guitar's neck at 5. min?