OKBaby - Oscar & Kyra Break Up - (Therapist Reaction)

[@aubrykatherine]

Im no therapist but i’ve been watching their channel since their first child was born 6 YEARS AGO and I would bet my life on the fact that the MINUTE Oscar starts to move on and Kyra feels like she’s actually losing her grip on him is the minute she will want him back. And at that point if he doesn’t reciprocate she will become bitter and that’s when the relationship will not longer be buddy buddy and it will go down hill.

[@nola3963]

She wants him to herself, but she doesn’t want to commit to him.

[@graciehodge7817]

i thought the same thing!!! i’ve watch them from the very beginning and you’re exactly right. as soon as oscar tries to move on she’s going to want him back. she thinks of him as property. i feel so bad for oscar and their kids.

[@Olivkazp]

She keeps pushing him away to find someone else, but when it actually happens, she'll be pi$$ed.

[@cheyennemckenzie5969]

been watching since levi was a new born and i agree somewhat with this. it’s difficult bc we don’t know them truly only what they have let us see but krya does have that sort of personality. i hope everyone ends up okay though. they were a beautiful family and i hope they stick together.

[@debbiewessig3688]

Exactly! She wants her freedom but wants to keep him close. And now she wants her own apartment and maybe stay at the house every other week to look after the kids? Very bad idea. Oscar needs a place of his own also. It’s going to get messy. I can’t help to think her “naughty Pod cast has something to do with this. Idk, just saying

[@squarepegfb]

Because she's further ahead in her grieving of the relationship, she seems to be trying to skip right into the friendship she wants with him without considering where he is and what he's ready for right now. Some of her behaviour feels disrespectful of that.

[@mistermanman]

The lack of respect she has for him speaks volumes about the dynamics of their relationship. You can tell she hasn't respected him for a long time.

[@shelbielynne9609]

It's hard when you're in her shoes though, it really is. I left my boyfriend of 8 years in September, we live together, I'm even with someone new, and I had to force myself to remember that he needed time to heal because for me I'd been in the single mindset for years (I didn't act like it, I was never with anyone else or anything like that,) so the concept of him needing time was 100% foreign to me at first. It's something you have to remember at every turn and that can be difficult when you're like "I've been so alone all this time, it's been over for me, how...HOW could it possibly be any different for you? HOW could you have been feeling like we were in a good relationship? Let's just be friends because that's what we've been this whole time anyway." I get her, I am her in some ways, and she does need to realize that he isn't in the same place as her..but it's important to remember how hard this is for her to do that as well.

[@Chimin1998]

@@shelbielynne9609 Ive had the exact same situation!!! Felt alone in the relationship, finally had the guts and respect for my ex and myself to break up and after 6 weeks I was seeing someone new. I did feel super guilty about that, but it was just because Ive basically already moved on even before I broke up with him... Glad to not be the only one

[@waterfall6328]

That’s probably because she mentally broke up with him while they were still in the relationship before telling him it’s over. Many do that. I did that. And it’s totally ok. Everyone is different

[@sweetluvgurl]

@@shelbielynne9609 I understand that, but I also hope you didn’t laugh and sing shortly into breaking up and while discussing it.

[@carr0760]

Her: a year ago is when I thought "I hate this. I'm over this." Him: so you've been done for a year? Her: no. I just said that. Him: but you thought "I hate this. I'm over this." Her: no! You're not listening to me! Uh...that's EXACTLY what you just said. He is listening quite carefully. You aren't though, because you don't let him speak.

[@tylermiron6854]

Her excuses for the breaking up the marriage are very weak and shallow. My wife and I don't have much in common in terms of what we like to do but that's no reason to end a marriage. We also go through peaks and valleys of feelings for each other but it's just feelings mature people know that and still stick together

[@Catsheal]

Right?? I was thinking the same thing!

[@sweetluvgurl]

@@tylermiron6854 I think that’s normal for long term relationships with having stronger feelings and then things getting more distant at times. It isn’t always just “omg, we’re so in love!” I think they’re young and used to the feelings they had as teens and young adults. It doesn’t just stay like that. So, I kind of wonder if the expectations are a bit unrealistic.

[@heyyou9313]

@@tylermiron6854 but yet they have fun together. Very weak excuses can’t even get her story straight

[@JamiesLife]

I can't stand her

[@lifewithaaliyahaspen1587]

They have 4 kids, and she talks about the breakup openly in front of her kids on Instagram live. It’s terrible. We all feel bad for their children, they are emotionally immature.

[@alys4570]

You can already see the affects on the kids in a few videos. It heartbreaking. They never stop with crude jokes about being broken up in front of the kids.

[@Beepbopboop19]

What does she say? My parents are still married, so I'm curious that it's a thing that happened, shouldn't they talk about it?

[@Cattiva]

@@Beepbopboop19 i guess the OC means that the children are very small yet . And with all their activities being filmed without their consent and context this can be damaging.

[@lillithsternin7428]

These kids have 4 kids???

[@lifewithaaliyahaspen1587]

@@lillithsternin7428 yes, they were teen parents and kept having them. They should have worked on their relationship instead, I don’t think Oscar wanted that many or atleast not that fast but kyra Ofcourse got what she wanted.

[@TheGipper4prez]

Ok I hate when couples say "we are just great friends" because the qualities of being great friends are the same qualities of being a great partner. And as a former divorce attorney I can assure you no one gets divorced because they are just great friends. No one. In broad strokes, alienation of affection and finances. Those are the two main reasons people get divorced.

[@lavinder11]

The "just friends" thing bugs me too. It's like people expect for raw passion to last a lifetime.

[@tylermiron6854]

Bullseye

[@Daijxo]

Same, the people that say that are the same ones saying they want their partner to be their best friend 🥴. Just be real about the reason.

[@leilaniz5909]

Honestly though, I don't think people who are great friends would get a divorce attorney. But yeah I think people with kids and break up can't be friends, they do have to be neutral, and maybe just being neutral means you're doing super well lol

[@sweetluvgurl]

Many people say their significant other is their best friend. So, her saying “are we just best friends?” didn’t really make sense. If she said maybe they are just friends now, that’s different than saying best friends, implying someone comes first to you.

[@Catsheal]

The thing is, while she does acknowledge that her shortcomings or if she was mean etc., she immediately follows it with some excuse for why she reacted that way. Like she’s looking for a reason to not hold herself accountable for doing that. Where holding yourself accountable, you just acknowledge what you did. And she keeps talking over him which I found irksome. And it’s funny she says “no, you’re not listening.” Because she did say “I was thinking I hate this, I’m over this.” And then he repeated her word for word and she says “no!” But she did say that..she’s coming off as if she’s not too aware of herself

[@mamaofthree5027]

Lol 😆 My new favorite word “irksome” 😂

[@ledisi8250]

Correct me if I’m wrong but being accountable is a two step process. Admission and justification.

[@RalphRaphaelPhotog]

​@@ledisi8250 Justification simply means you had reasons for doing what you did, it doesn't mean your reason were warranted and certainly doesn't mean your actions or you went about doing things were warranted. if theres a "but" after your apology then its not being accountable. the same way if you rob a bank to feed your kids and they catch you, you have your reasons but youre going to jail.

[@robertrosen2703]

@@RalphRaphaelPhotog Word.

[@AnnA-jd4xm]

It's because it's usually a REACTION. Cause and effect. If their relationship was perfect, this shit wouldnt have happened.

[@tj7855]

I get the feeling she just wants to be courted by another man. Then she’s gonna miss Oscar. But yea, her personality is definitely triggering, calling him an idiot and constantly cutting him off when he’s articulating his feelings… Good luck to them

[@lillyfournier6579]

Yeah, I definitely agree! I feel so sad for Oscar 🥺

[@Naejakire3]

Well she won't need to miss him because it feels like she genuinely thinks he will be OK being on the back burner and drop anyone else the moment she wants him back. I can *feel* it. She feels she holds all the control and power.

[@braxlucky5718]

@@Naejakire3 pretty much she does if this goes to court she holds most of if not all of the ace’s and if he does something that she doesn’t approve off shits gunna pop of from what I get from her personality

[@eternalperspective4136]

Yeah, in one video she criticizes him for not talking/ sharing in the past then cuts him off and speaks for him.

[@stephaniedawn56]

@@Naejakire3 i AGREE so much

[@jessa.4529]

I'd love a deep dive into deciding "when to leave and when to stay" when a relationship isn't awful

[@SecretSqrlGrl007]

I love the book, Too Good to Leave, Too Bad to Stay: A Step-by-Step Guide to Help You Decide Whether to Stay In or Get Out of Your Relationship, by Mira Kirshenbaum, for exactly this. I found it very helpful in making decisions regarding relationships I've had in the past.

[@JamiesLife]

@@SecretSqrlGrl007 thank u I'm gonna get that book

[@alyb5666]

Also Steve Harvey's "Act like a Lady, Think like a Man" was a good one for me to read as a young adult.. helped me realize what I expected from a partner

[@peachylady]

@@alyb5666 Steve Harvey, really? He is a known misogynist.

[@alyb5666]

@@peachylady Is he really?? I used to watch his talk show all the time.. In that book shows he tries to convey that women are the prize in a relationship. He treats his wife like a queen too

[@jackipiacentini5751]

Kyra is a manipulator. She’s always been controlling. It’s definitely a pattern of her always talking over him- the guy can’t even get his feelings out, before she cuts him off. She also doesn’t let him have his own feelings, she NEEDS him to feel how SHE wants him to feel about all of this. I’ve watched their channel for years, he didn’t even really want four kids- as he’s the one who stays home and takes care of them, but she wanted more and more. She’s very impulsive, and he just always wants to make her happy. It’s the blessing in disguise for Oscar- he deserves so much more.

[@JamiesLife]

Agreed

[@deannacantu9761]

Agreed

[@HLRadford]

Agreed

[@deibooks]

He’s the one who stays home? Lol how long have u been watching okbaby. Most of the time oscar was the one out and about doing extreme adventures while the kids and kyra stay at home. Yall are simping over a verbally and physically abusive guy just bc the woman is hella annoying? Gosh yall are troublesome.

[@kaylesbabys]

@@deibooks honestly they have both been absent at times, but more so her. Especially for her blanket business. Which, I don’t fault her for. Moms work. It’s not bad. I agree he has anger issues. I’m sure he probably has tons of moments we would all gag at. However, I feel she is the cause of his issues. I feel (after watching them from literally day 1) she’s always been controlling and manipulative. His behavior is his reaction to her behavior. She is emotionally manipulative and that shows. If you watch the live from a few years ago where she was crying saying he was so mean you could tell she was fake crying and pushing him. Its a form of abuse. While he has to take responsibility for his own actions regardless, I do think that her crazy is what makes him the way he is. They’re both toxic and need to move on.

[@h0a4l]

I appreciate how much Dr. H takes our requests & input into account

[@dedu98]

Me too. Really cool.

[@haleydavis8752]

I like your name 😊

[@user-fo6kp6nt5b]

Something else about ethical breakups that I've been thinking about is consent. I had it happen to me where someone withheld that they wanted to break up with me for a few months, and afterwards I felt used and betrayed because I wouldn't have consented to a lot of things if I knew that they were broken up with me in their head. I've heard a few other women speak about this, but it's not brought up enough.

[@asunnywebb]

Oh that's a very good point. I hadn't ever thought of that but it seems logical one could feel used.

[@user-fo6kp6nt5b]

@@asunnywebb thank you, it was hard for me to get through when it happened to me.

[@n1bn0b]

Very good point. I've had similar experiences prior to breakups. Likewise with non-serious relationships. Men have told me that they want to go places with me and introduce me to family. We become physically intimate, and interestingly they say they are no longer interested and that they don't remember saying those things. The perspective of the intimacy becomes very disturbing. I feel like s3x under false pretenses is non-consensual.

[@user-fo6kp6nt5b]

@@n1bn0b definitely agree. It seems extremely manipulative.

[@eloiselogue]

I don't think it's that simple. It's normal to maybe have fluctuating emotions at times, that people might internally struggle with and need time to come to certainty about. Unless your partner was an absolutely evil person (which I doubt, because 99.9% of the time nobody really is), you weren't being used. Although it is much easier to look back on things and be like "he was the worst!" or "they used me!" but that's just a protective mechanism people use to push away feelings they don't want to deal with --> like feeling rejected and being sad that somebody doesn't love you anymore. It's much easier to just write somebody off as being the bad person, but that's only going to hurt your own development through those feelings.

[@lanagustafson2905]

It seems like she’s worried that she’ll be painted as a bad person so she’s explaining all the reasons and how it was hard for her cuz of the trips

[@mariella3172]

Exactly

[@AnnA-jd4xm]

Because she is. She's a public figure and people have torn her apart.

[@Allexstrasza]

She doesn't let him explain anything from his perspective because IT IS something bad to begin with. Why else would she go to such lengths to try and hide it and control whatever he says? Its obvious what's going on

[@lauraschmidt1362]

Wow, once he realizes the bullet he’s dodged being with her… he will hopefully find a woman who respects, and actually loves him. Not someone who gaslights him, uses him to “have her cake and eat it too”. I feel for the kids, they will be going through a lot with this. She absolutely has the narcissistic personality traits of my ex.

[@unyieldingmonotony4453]

After something like this most men just check out. He will likely not have another serious relationship after this.

[@AnnA-jd4xm]

@@unyieldingmonotony4453 My ex did and he's happily married.

[@unyieldingmonotony4453]

@@AnnA-jd4xm Im assuming you handled this better than she did. She tore out his heart while trying to fuck other men. How the fuck do you trust after that?

[@giantfatberg]

@@unyieldingmonotony4453 do you have a reputable source for that information. Serious because I want to read/see it.

[@tenalee3399]

@@AnnA-jd4xm first of she's been talking over him it's clear that she's controlling

[@jagger8357]

I have no idea who this couple is, but I wish she would stop interrupting him. Not even halfway through and it’s so frustrating to hear her keep talking over him!!

[@Spacebaby420x]

She's very toxic. He will be better off. Sounds like she's been cheating possibly emotionally.

[@oliviag3831]

@@Spacebaby420x Genuine question.. how do you emotionally cheat?

[@zinypuerto7268]

@@oliviag3831 when you talk and feel things you should only feel with your partner. Cheating doesn’t always necessary mean sex, sometimes having feelings for another person and expressing it and engaging in it without sex can be considered emotional cheating.

[@Mellow0grl]

@@oliviag3831 emotionally cheating is for example, anything you feel like your partner shouldn’t see. You may not physically cheat but if you are being vulnerable and emotional to another man, talking inappropriately (again, not always sexually) but to a point where you feel your partner shouldn’t be reading it and you try to hide it then it’s a form of emotional cheating

[@krissy461]

I’ve watched them since their first was a newborn. This is what I always got. Oscar is this caring, adventitious guy with a little temper mixed with if things get too emotional he checks out. Kiera has always said she has mental health issues. She has ocd and didn’t want to do therapy because it was expensive, but you buy an RV, new vehicles, another home. I feel like she’s genuine, yet a little narcissistic in ways. She doesn’t want to look like the bad guy. I’m not saying they’re bad people, but with 4 kids and this fame and money & issues individually and together, they should’ve done therapy Separately and couples. They always seems like complete opposites and never understood them fully. I wish them he best.

[@Iamanicajean]

Same , I watched them when they first started when they were pregnant and very naive and in love . Same thing with latoyas life it’s sad to see this happened to theses family’s , I feel like the fame and wealth from KZbin is getting in the heads of these woman and they want to be independent and etc . It’s kinda a repetitive thing , latoya , ok baby , Tammy Hebrow etc . SMH , I feel sorry for these men that they had to get dragged on a LONGTIME with a woman who were lowkey bat crazy and don’t know what their doing .

[@aerotic1968]

yes their priorities have always been messed up

[@SaraLuvsElla]

same and now they are going to get rid of the rv which will hurt the kids and make them ? why there's no more family trips in it they will have 2 sep homes sep sets if utilities and the fame will dwindle unfortunately from all of this and they will have just as much if not more financial issues and I think that will either bring them back together for a harsh realization of the real world or they will grow even more apart and maybe even get hostile. I remember the episides where she'd get so anxious while he was gone for traveling because she didn't like being alone without him. She said in their breakup that she feels like she wants the apartment to learn to live alone and etc but I feel like if that's one of the main reasons she needs space that space can be created while still together but you take the time to do things sep faithful things of course but I think she's totally checked out and probably won't come back. I also think she knows how nice he is and will be there for the kids and I pray she doesn't take advantage of that.

[@tenalee3399]

I would have a temper with her too eventually he going too do a tell all about her watch he diserve better she doesn't want the help she blames him for it all not cool

[@tenalee3399]

@Briselda M of course he going too have anger issues with her

[@DrLC.]

“Half-blown cheating” made me giggle 😂

[@Selahsayless]

Love is not a constant feeling!! It goes in ups and downs. It’s a choice. You choose to continue to love the person even when you don’t feel “in love” and that “in love” feeling comes in waves. For EVERY long term couple Kyra did nothing to help the relationship(counseling) she just completely blindsided Him because she found attention from other guys and going through a “sexy” phase.

[@sweetluvgurl]

Then maybe that means love isn’t realistic for long term if you keep having to try to bring it back or just keep it going despite lacking.

[@Selahsayless]

@@sweetluvgurl It is. Everyone has stale moments, we’re humans. You’re not going to constantly feel “in love” you’re going to get mad at your partner, you’re going to feel bored here and there, but the feeling of love always comes back. It’s reality

[@TheKnallkorper]

@@sweetluvgurl love is constant. Romance comes and goes. You need to reignite the “spark”. Sparks don’t stay continuously lit without being fed. Even if I am angry and arguing with my husband one day, I still love him. I might not want to kiss him, but I still love him.

[@RalphRaphaelPhotog]

​@@sweetluvgurl lol DONT YOU LOVE YOURSELF EVERYDAY? event when that time of the month comes?

[@janellemargot4376]

@@TheKnallkorper I love that. Love is constant but lust/froo froo isn't always.

[@skylarwilliams760]

This actually opened my eyes on my own relationship. I realize now that I do tally things in my head to use against my partner. Obviously it never helps the situation. I’m going to use this information to better myself. Thank you.

[@arieshabalouch]

More love to you. We learn everyday. I wish you a happy life with your partner! Progress everyday!

[@AnnA-jd4xm]

THIS! Awesome move, skylar.

[@AllYourFriendsThink]

Personally, I disagree with this point. It's fine to let some things go here and there as one-off behaviors, but if it becomes a pattern, or too many in a row, you stand up and make a point about it. The solution isn't bringing it up every single little time, nor forgiving everything all the time. The solution requires moderation, which requires a tally. It's literally the only mature route.

[@SalaamSh90]

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[@SalaamSh90]

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[@julieeileen7299]

I'm so sorry about Michelle. I lost my dog of 13 years a year ago and it was one of the hardest losses for me. I think some people consider mourning the death of a pet is ridiculous but if you consider it just on a biological scale, your pet gave you an oxytocin dump every single day for a decade. Then suddenly this goes away, at least the scale decreases significantly. Beyond genuine love and affection, this can be devastating not just psychologically, bit physiologically.

[@stormymckinney7496]

I lost my dog I had for 10 years I got when I was 7 an he was the only friend I had I was picked on alot so never really made friends an he was the most loyal companion I ever came across he would greet me when I got home from school everyday sleep next to me an growl at anyone who got to close to me an he was ran over right infront of me... after that I could never become friends with a dog again cause no dog was as loyal or understanding as he was.. people would say he was just a dog get over it but to this day 6 years after his death I still think about him alot an will never forget him... people that say stuff like your explaining have never got to experience the animal an human bond that we have cause if they have they would of never said them things...

[@julieeileen7299]

@@stormymckinney7496 I'm so sorry you were picked on and bullied. And I am sorry for your loss. I still think about my girl every single day. I try to always remember to tell her that I love her and think about her before I fall asleep each night.

[@stormymckinney7496]

@@julieeileen7299 I'm so sorry for your loss to, I've never been able to relate to someone over loosing a pet, not many people around me care about animals.

[@ThatSB]

He is really upset. She is happy. You can see this in their Q&A as well. She cuts him off every time he is saying something she doesnt like and whenever he puts forward something upsetting to him, she tells him to "dont lie to them" or "tell them you are happy" or "we are happy arent we? ARENT WE?"

[@casskapp]

Very interesting observations. And kyra ALWAYS interrupts Oscar. This isn’t something new. She never gives him the chance to speak.

[@stefaniegrant3905]

I'm here because Oscar shared how insightful this video was for him on his Instagram. I agree, great video!

[@alisalaska1786]

Did he delete it? Don’t see anything on instagram…

[@eriskalli]

Child actor ethics are hinky because child labor is otherwise outlawed. But at least they just pretend for a while and clock out. Family channels never stop filming their children, and exploit their real struggles for money. I find the enterprise disgusting.

[@Mel_o1234]

You’re so right, we do need to discuss the ethics of breaking up with someone more in our culture.

[@blueblack3591]

Agree

[@sellyq]

With regard to 52:34, this didn't come across to me as authentically joking with each other. I got the sense that she was genuinely annoyed but, like many family vloggers, practiced in playing it off. I also found her reaction here a bit mean by calling him an idiot and then criticizing the amount of money he is (not) making. I'm not familiar with this couple and may be triggered by her personality, but this part felt much more cruel to me!

[@tylermiron6854]

What we have here is a young Karen

[@senaquist2927]

@@tylermiron6854 how so?

[@tylermiron6854]

@@senaquist2927 did you watch the same video?

[@senaquist2927]

@@tylermiron6854 I thought you meant the commenter was a karen! Now it makes sense. I agree lol

[@silversun1203]

I agree, it didn't seem like lighthearted joking.

[@Deafaria13]

They uploaded a second video that put things a little more into perspective: the minor infidelity, the way she interrupts him more, etc. could you react to it?

[@meanjean3023]

I know I’m not the therapist 😂 - but I don’t see Kyra being okay with Oscar dating - I see him finding a meaningful relationship before her and her not being okay with it. Her joking about the stripper doesn’t come off as joking or fun, but jealous and passive aggressive.

[@cauliflowerhead2735]

She has processed this break up for a lot longer than oscar, so I don't think she was being passive agressive about that.

[@Allexstrasza]

@@cauliflowerhead2735 she was using it to paint him in a negative way, so that would be passive aggressive or at least very manipulative. And she's the one pushing him into going out with other women. Makes it seem like she's doing that for an ulterior motive

[@DovahKiink]

The reaction we didn't know we needed

[@PlantsandPaints]

Becoming "roomates" in a mariage is one of the biggest fears of mine, so watching this made me very emotional. Plus I watched them many years ago, and they were so great together. Which also makes my fear that the relationships are fragile and even the best ones are likely to "fail".

[@inubakablog]

Anecdotally, my partner and I have been married for 16 years. We went through 2 phases of getting in a roommate rut. And we worked our way out of it. Right now we are keeping a shared journal to keep the spark fresh. Relationships are fragile, but the fragility can be a phase that you work up from ♡

[@asunnywebb]

Love is the easy part. It's all the day to day crap that can so easily destroy a relationship.

[@abandonablesnowman]

I worry about this too, especially since my partner and I aren’t very high energy people and don’t necessarily share a lot of interests. Idk that there’s an easy answer

[@r2488]

My partner and I have been together over six years. We are complete opposites and interests but we balance each other out with our differences. We try so hard to see the food in the other persons differences. I think it’s completely normal to go through phases of just feeling like friends. I think the issue is either A) the friendship side of the relationship wasn’t built well on the beginning B) people are quick to look for an out when the relationship feels boring C) the biggest thing is not being honest/communicating! When my partner and I get in these phases I think we try to lean into our friendship. We communicate and we try to figure out why we are more like roommates. We both have decided we want this relationship and want to fight for it (unless someone really feels done). We usually start by “going on an adventure”. We get out of our day to day routine. When we can’t go on a vacation we just do a day trip to another city and try a new restaurant and doing something like mini golf, ice skating, seeing a random movie. It starts as a way to spike the friendship but usually in the process because we feel closer and have new things to discuss we also start feeling flirty and the attraction spark comes back.

[@sweetluvgurl]

@Pauline Well, you also have to look at different factors, too. 1) They had their first kid in their teens, 2) They rushed into a lot of big stages of life and had 4 kids and have owned different houses together in a span of 7 years, and 3) They vlog their lives online, including the children. To me, all three of those really work against the relationship. They never had any free time to themselves without a serious relationship and then having so many young children together, which adds lots of stress to the relationship. 4 kids age 6 and under is A LOT. Then trying to keep up with their at home job and Kyra’s business. Plus, just vlogging your lives online has been shown to add stress to a relationship. I think it all blended together as a recipe for disaster.

[@emilycronan]

I have watched them for about 6 years. In every video, she has always spoken over him. Yes, it’s made every single video a little frustrating to watch. I wish them both the best, I think Kyra’s decision to end it was the right decision and I really hope Oscar realises how happy he will be after the grieving ends

[@helenaf.3941]

Thank you for naturally including disabled people in your language when talking about todlers and wanting to teach them how to walk if possible or talk if possible etc...warmed my heart❤

[@apriljones1013]

As a disabled person I appreciated that as well.

[@josephbroseph]

yes! I was going to acknowledge that as well, it's a small detail but makes a world of difference 💕

[@blueblack3591]

He is a kind person

[@crazyboutdanceforevr]

Before I even start the video I’m so happy you reacted to this. I genuinely could not finish it because her behaviour was making me so uncomfortable. Having your commentary over will make it bearable.

[@lavinder11]

Dunno who these people are, but this seems like image control especially on the woman's part. She seems a bit mean or annoyed, but I guess it makes sense as she was the one who broke up with him. eta: Yeah... my views aren't that charitable about the lady. This seems like 100% image control and she kept sneaking in little digs after he didn't agree with her about the 'no cheating' thing. lol wow

[@Jimmyboygohome]

Sounds like a narcissistic trait.

[@oliviag3831]

I have been a fan of them for years since they had their first child so I have read into this situation quite a bit. There is a response video to the comments after they posted the offical breakup video. She clarifies that she wants to love herself and I think it’s because she hasn’t been able to live her life like a typical girl in her twenties as she has been having kids.

[@sweetluvgurl]

@@oliviag3831 You don’t think that’s just an excuse? And no one forced them to live together and keep having more kids anyway. They chose to do that knowing they were young and weren’t able to do different things single people are when they’re young. Besides, partying is overrated IMO. Many people who do that are trying to fill a void until they are where they ultimately hope to be. I know not always, but I have a hard time believing many people use substances purely just for fun, even if they claim that’s the reason.

[@jenaya_laila2442]

Exactly! That's what I said. She seems to cover up feeling small and insignificant next to him with control and dominance!

[@jenaya_laila2442]

Mind blowing the therapist didn't see that part about her cheating...and her obvious diversion through counter blame! He even takes it in and apologises for it..and just like that, her infidelity is never talked about again!

[@Coroline345]

I would love to see your opinion on the second video they made about their breakup!

[@maritoh.6710]

YES WE NEED THE SECOND ONE

[@lea3056]

Yes please!

[@nbad6584]

And the podcast with friends Preston and Hannah and they started drinking a few hours before they started recording. If I were Oscar, I would back off of all recordings and get counseling so he can understand what he is feeling.

[@nicole3237]

It’s disgusting how quickly and eagerly Kyra is getting her own apartment! Shouldn’t the mother stay with the children in their home?! NOPE, she isn’t putting them first. Oscar will single handedly be the better parent. She is TOO eager to get herself a bachelorette pad to entertain her new guy, which we all know she HAS one! Kyra never felt good enough for Oscar, she loved him way more than he loved her. She KNEW he would eventually leave her because of her childish, selfish ways SO she most likely started talking to another guy for emotional support so she could end their relationship. There is no way Kyra is doing this on her own. When Oscar moves on Kyra will LOOSE it. She is going to make his life and his new girlfriend’s life hell - all while putting the kids in the middle.

[@adris432]

You do not personally know them at all. How dare you pass jusgements about who's gonna be the better parent. This whole comment is just total judgemental bs, you're acting like you know them.

[@andradaandrea1334]

That is a bit sexist, parents are equals, is the same thing as if Oscar was the one moving out. The mother is not the one who is obligated to stay with the kids.

[@AnnA-jd4xm]

She's damned if she does, damned if she doesnt with you people, holy shit. They are having the children an EQUAL amount of time. They are more than likely selling the house.

[@koriqo1]

She’s not moving for another year lol ..

[@Cristina_504]

You are spot on girl!

[@DANNYTHEFROG123]

If she didn't want to look bad maybe they should've just released a joint statement and moved on with the content. Not make a full talking video and making money off it.

[@asunnywebb]

Maybe a good tool for us interrupters (interruptors?) is to have a notebook and a pen so we can write down what we want to say when we feel the need to interrupt. That way we won't be afraid we'll lose it forever. It always feels really important. I will control my interrupting and then forget what I wanted to say and spend the next several weeks thinking about how imperative it was to share and now there's no way to bring it up again gracefully.

[@SuperChava28]

Yes, it’s hard when you have adhd and you interrupt without trying to. It’s a sizable portion of society. Most interrupters don’t mean to be rude!

[@maritoh.6710]

Great tip... I interrupt people all the time! But is because I forget easily I'm pretty sure I've had ADHD my whole life.

[@maritoh.6710]

@Cassandra Loves people with ADHD do it with no intention to hurt anyone at all. It's like an impulse don't take it the wrong way they can't help it or control it. In your specific case it would be helpful if you tell your father how he's making you feel and let him know when he does it. There has to be a middle ground. Sometimes I hyper focus on something and my husband feels ignored, he told me so and I asked if he could touch me or do something to call my atention, easy fix now he does this and nobody gets hurt. We just need to talk and see it from their perspective.

[@maritoh.6710]

@Cassandra Loves it's ok. You are a good daugther for being sympathetic and forgiving. Just focus on the positive and his efforts however small they seem for people of his age is a lot believe me. ☺

[@Selahsayless]

@@maritoh.6710 I have adhd and you CAN control it. It’s also a form of thinking you have more important things to say so it’s just rude. The girl above just said she forgets in return when being interrupted

[@aardfay]

Something else that is important to consider is that they started their relationship when they were just 18 and got pregnant right away :x they never had a chance to grow by themselves, to find their passions and what they want from life as young adults.

[@sarahsmith3682]

Holy crap wow yeah, that's young

[@Luke-tv9jh]

Hell yeah beech I see you leisuring

[@thesandovalfamily9889]

I completely agree! My husband and I are in the same position. Literally about to break up last year. 8 years down the drain. But we both took time to fix us and fix ourselves on our own but as a couple. We had kids at a young age and didn’t get to do a lot of stuff that’s part of ‘growing up’. We are just getting to do so many things because we were busy being parents. It was so stressful we kept ourselves together for the kids, now that we are working on us we are stinking together for us.

[@leilaniz5909]

About the "keeping a catalog" remark, it is something that gets trained into a person when they attempt to communicate that something is wrong and their partner says "like when?" "Name a time?" "How is that possible?" In order to get out of accountability. And then when the brain is trained to remember certain hurts the partner says "you're keeping a catalog!!" Manipulative people will bait others into making a list and then use the therapist term "keeping a catalog" to blame others for being in the wrong.

[@sweetluvgurl]

Very good point. I’ve noticed many people nowadays are narcissistic, especially when it really comes to taking ownership. It’s like they want to justify why they did what they did or minimize it or just outright dodge it. The tactic you’re talking about is when they play dumb or act like they don’t remember. If you are dealing with someone like you are describing, you’ll never win. Either you have to prove what they did or how dare you keep a record to try to prove it.

[@Allexstrasza]

In all fairness, women can remember what you did 10 years ago and be over it a week later and still bring it up in an argument 10 years later about something completely unrelated.

[@cupcakecrazy02]

Was nooot expecting to find this video! Never clicked faster. Intrigued to hear what Dr Kirk thinks

[@kari1165]

I was hoping he would react to it and I can't believe it actually happened

[@moneywiththemillers8373]

I would really be interested in his perspective on the “seven year itch”. Also on how adding another baby into the family effects the marriage dynamics (including postpartum depression). Not that that is what is happening here but I am just curious his opinions/professional advise.

[@ashleybucci23]

I agree!!!!! Im curious myself. We are finally adding a 2nd baby to our home after have our son 7 years ago. Lol and im just wondering how to prepare for this 😅

[@moneywiththemillers8373]

@@ashleybucci23 congratulations! We are pregnant with our third now! Only advice I have for you is try not to put any avoidable stresses into you life around the time the new baby comes. Right after our second was born we moved across country and ended up living with my parents until our house back home sold (about 6 months). This was with a 6 week old. I ended up having Postpartum and along with everything else it was almost the breaking point of our relationship. But now we are stronger than ever! I hope it’s smooth sailing for your family!

[@ashleybucci23]

@@moneywiththemillers8373 thank you so much ! Yes we are going to do our best for sure !! And congratulations to yall as well!! I feel like this pregnancy is worse then I remember 🤣🤣🤣

[@JazzyUnderscoreTrumpeter]

You are incredibly fair and introspective, while I have no plans to be a therapist, I respect your disposition enough to aspire to operate more like you in a general sense. Well-done analysis 🤙

[@LadyGreyAgeingDisGracefully]

I think dr Kirk needs to look into the overtly sexual podcast that these two share with another couple. They give relationship and sex advice like a therapist. I wonder if he would have a different opinion about this break up and the effects on the kids about oversharing intimate details.

[@tylermiron6854]

Very good question

[@ShannaRado]

I feel like Kyra & Hannah's podcast is helpful in making sexual subjects less taboo to talk about with other people. They're not giving advice like a therapist as much as they are discussing things how they would with a friend. Hannah's boyfriend films it, and I know Kyra respects things that Oscar doesn't want discussed. All that said, though, I still wonder how it would be for the kids as they stumble upon it growing up.

[@LadyGreyAgeingDisGracefully]

@@ShannaRado they get drunk and giggle about sex and sex toys and discuss their sexual preferences. How is this contributing to reducing stigmas about sex? Remember these people are called influencers and children have access to this podcast and their KZbin channel. I don’t have a problem with them discussing the topic of sex, however, their own kids and their kids friends at school can access information about their sexual preferences. How is that going to affect them? This should not be so easily accessible to minors.

[@jenaya_laila2442]

Yes, also watch their videos. She makes him get a vasectomy because she can't have kids anymore and then breaks up with him months after..Also, I think it's a game from her side. Its about control and dominance because she feels small and dependent on his side..

[@thatsfunny2051]

Those poor poor kids

[@tatianaarellano8368]

Could you PLEASE react to their second video answering questions about their break up?

[@SiminaKiss]

I think she has so much guilt that she wants the validation and thats when she interrupts a lot in those moment not only but also.

[@janesykes9897]

You get off track to much. Watch the videos first. She wants no blame.

[@SiminaKiss]

@@janesykes9897 I watched everything. Just bc you don‘t get my point does not mean I am off track.

[@janesykes9897]

@@SiminaKiss ,I get the point, he refers to many other things, that aren't needed. Just talk about them two and their situation only.

[@elsf]

My ex-husband told me he had been pretending for 3 years in our marriage. He never told me he wanted to leave till I confronted him because I could tell he had been checked out for months and his excuse of being tired from work was no longer a valid excuse. He finally admitted he was unhappy for sometime; I suggested therapy and after one session, he shortly he left shortly after. To me, at the time it felt like he didn’t give it a chance to mend anything, to him he felt he “tried” by pretending for 3 years. I asked him if he was planning on voicing his unhappiness to me and if he would have if I didn’t keep asking what was wrong with him. He claims he would have, but I felt he was being intentionally hurtful in his actions to make me break up the marriage.

[@SiminaKiss]

I‘m so sorry. 3 years he is a bad person for waiting this long. 1 session is nothing. You deserve better and I hope you‘ll find it!

[@elsf]

@@SiminaKiss absolutely. The first therapy session is an intake and he used that as an indication our marriage wasn’t going to work because that he didn’t get anything out of it. I kept telling him one session does nothing. He disagreed. Looking back, I wish I didn’t beg him as much as I did but at least I can honestly say I gave it my all.

[@SiminaKiss]

@@elsf Yes you can say and know you gave everything. His loss!

[@panacheautomotive4298]

you probably drove him crazy

[@s.g.6148]

I never heard of this couple or their KZbin channel, but thank you for this reaction! I learned so much

[@kaylabloodworth2270]

I used to watch them all the time and I saw this break up coming because whenever he would try to do something for her, she would always find something to complain about.

[@halimameyero5505]

I would love a deep dive into your opinion and experience on emotional infidelity!

[@pitlordmike6127]

She didn’t realize their interests don’t mesh before they got married and had kids?

[@Spacebaby420x]

No she did she just wanted that life then realised it wasn't all peachy

[@SiminaKiss]

They got pregnant at 18 they did not think that far. She has also mental health issues that made some activities for her impossible, she went to therapy and tried to overcome those issues. She did things and tried things that are connected to her fears. I think both tried to participate in each others interests. I am sure they have some that are the same. What I am hearing is I am not successful in participating in your interest(I‘m not good enough)

[@oliviag3831]

They got pregnant at 18 which they weren’t intending so you can’t really blame them.

[@JMUS15]

@@oliviag3831 they got pregnant at 18 and so what about the other three children they have?

[@laceyspacey8161]

@@JMUS15 Kyra always intended to have 6 kids, Oscar just caught on after 4. None were mistakes.

[@sammyrei295]

Omg I wasn’t expecting for you to look at this but I watched this video a week or two ago and thought the whole time I wished I could hear your take on this.

[@Spacebaby420x]

This videos just basically made him think he needs to understand her more when she's the one in the wrong. Poor lad

[@JamiesLife]

Agreed

[@carr0760]

I have genuinely never understood the appeal of this kind of channel. Why the hell would anyone want to watch someone else just live their life? I don't want to watch someone else do the dishes or go for a walk. This is not interesting in any way. Why would you want to spend your life watching someone else live theirs? And then there's the element of consent as Dr. Honda said. I absolutely hate that people think it's okay to broadcast their kids online. I've asked this question before, but no one has ever been able to explain why this kind of channel even exists.

[@dianabackman3818]

I know for me, as a teen when my life got chaotic or my family life was stressful it was nice to see people just doing normal everyday things. I think it regulated my mind? Now as a mom of a toddler, I think other toddlers are cute and it’s nice to see other parents just being parents. I don’t watch this channel but do keep up with a few “vlogging” families

[@lavinder11]

In general, for the same reason you watch 90 Day Fiance. It's relatable entertainment. For me specifically, whenever I plan to move to a different city or country, I'll watch vloggers in the location to get a feel for the area. If the person has a cute or interesting personality, then i'll stick around for a bit.

[@carr0760]

@@lavinder11 I don't find 90 Day Fiance entertaining either...I only watch it via this channel for the insights that Dr. Honda offers on healthy communication and relationship dynamics.

[@carr0760]

@@dianabackman3818 but....the toddlers can't consent to being filmed, and are being exploited...

[@dianabackman3818]

@@carr0760 I’m sorry I didn’t expand your original comment. I was just giving an example of what the appeal could be for people.

[@DaBower]

The most telling part of their video is the last few minutes when they are 'joking' around and like clockwork we see flashes of what they are actually feeling and the narrative they attempted to portray falls away. He is angry at her and she is angry at him for not going along with her viewpoint. I feel very sad for folks these days that feel like they have to put everything online for the world to see, whether it's announcing a breakup to 1.5mil subs or just a few friends on Facebook. When their five children grow old enough to see this video how will they effect them? I can't see it being in a positive manner.

[@deservinglistener245]

five kids? 😲

[@andsch3881]

@@deservinglistener245 I guess they had only one common hobby 😂

[@pattih7]

Four beautiful children, who deserve loving parents and a stable home. 🙏♥️. I’ve watched them since oldest was born.

[@pattih7]

I’m broken hearted for all of them.. I believe Kyra will regret this. Oscar is very hurt.

[@DaBower]

@@pattih7Who knows. Maybe she will. I think we are all old enough to realize what is really happening. She has many kids and has been with this guy for years. She wants to get out there, party and 'explore herself' so to speak. No shade on her for doing that it's just frustrating when people use rubbish answers like wanting to 'find myself' when she wants the freedom to have fun while she is still young.

[@ld8178]

I can relate to the spark dimming. Spoke to my partner while back and they got upset but it wasn’t because I wasn’t in love with them. (Which I explained) A lot has happen within this year. Multiple job changes, Financial setbacks, a close relative was dying. Micro aggressions at work. Stress and health issues. However, since we buried my relative. A weight had been lifted. Jobs are now responding back. And I am starting to feel like myself and the spark seems to be coming back. Outside stresses play a huge role and it’s so important to hold onto each other and seek help.

[@TheKnallkorper]

THIS! My husband and I just moved away from all our family to a new state, had a baby, changed jobs, and a bunch of other minor things, and our spark was dimming quite a bit. It’s slowly coming back now that things are slowing and beginning to turn into our new “normal”.

[@ld8178]

@@TheKnallkorper oh that’s so great to hear! I hope all goes well for you both this year! 💕

[@RBG-ez7pd]

First time watching this channel, and this gentleman would be a gem for HR. He’s so calm. He could probably fire someone and make feel calm and mildly optimistic about the future at the same time lol.

[@Lord-Cyrus]

Hell no! I don't need him to be the mouthpiece of some company that cares more about the bottom line than their employees. A waste of his knowledge and abilities.

[@ericaashleyxo]

Hehe I’m one of the people who DM’d you about this clip. I’m looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

[@ericaashleyxo]

@@serpentrouge3 I actually don’t know anything about the couple’s channel. I don’t watch family channels for the reason Dr. Kirk Honda pointed out in the beginning of this video. I just saw other people give their two cents and I was curious to hear the opinions of a professional therapist. That’s all…

[@hcaballero1992]

@@serpentrouge3 this is dr Hondas comment section and you should respect his wishes about civility. Not very differentiated of you!

[@sararuiz8739]

The vid that doesn't sit well with me is Kyra's podcast ft. Oscar where she rips him a part the whole time. That episode shouldn't have been posted.

[@saharnabi4899]

I need him to react to their podcast, she was so out of pocket in that!

[@heathercochran5306]

Which episode?

[@ashleybucci23]

Bahaha yes!!!!! Cause that gets rough especially the newer ones with Oscar

[@20twobeauty22]

OMG so gross, disrespectful shes so tone deaf.

[@milzj]

What’s their podcast ?

[@melodyv5772]

What did she do?

[@abandonablesnowman]

I’ll never understand these people that are okay with a million people watching their kids. You couldn’t pay me enough

[@KourttneyL]

They’re young. And it’s easy money. Without much work.

[@abandonablesnowman]

@@KourttneyL I get all that, but I’m also young and still, nah

[@user-vy4uh2vr4k]

SAME! Never. My daughter isn’t even on any of my public social media. You’ve got me effed upppp.

[@Bbydawl]

I hate to sound judgmental, but using ones children to make income feels like a selfish choice. Good on you for keeping your children’s life private.

[@kate4641]

@@Bbydawl You’re 100% correct. It’s gross and they put their children in harms way.

[@Halbmond]

I don’t know this couple but if they really did multiple takes, I can’t believe she looked at this one and thought “yep I’m coming off great here, let’s hit the upload button”

[@Selahsayless]

Funny how she gets mad at him for being angry but then she’s bragging on Instagram about how she punched a hole in the door.

[@kelseysoto9767]

Omg what did she say??

[@XbabybluexXx]

wait when was this??

[@samanthaelizabeth2298]

yes she was talking about it on a live too!

[@elenaoakes8494]

Thank you for giving such a fair and kind review of this. I've seen lots of people being really nasty towards her but I truly think she is just at a different stage of the process so some of her jokes and comments seem really mean, obviously it would have been better had she taken how he was feeling and his stage into account. It was really interesting to hear your opinions and the topic backed up with your experience and knowledge about these issues. I'm definitely subscribing and excited to hear more from you!

[@Stephluna01]

When I was watching their video, I was thinking “what would Dr. Honda say?”. Now I know, thank you 😊

[@SiminaKiss]

I think that Oscar likes this Video and that he said it helps him a lot, says a lot.

[@TheKnallkorper]

Either that or he only watched the first few minutes

[@anayarey]

Where did he say that?

[@TheKnallkorper]

@@anayarey in an Instagram story a week or so ago

[@eyeoffelicia3434]

I remember when I started watching them when Kyra had a panic attack and Oscar was trying to calm her down, it was so sweet and genuine, I was totally stunned by their raw feelings. I will always respect them and I am thankful for their vlogs, they helped me in my darkest times to feel like I am the part of their family. I learned so much from their current situation about the importance of communication.

[@livj6817]

Same!

[@nicole3237]

Yes he was there emotionally for her, she’s just impossible to please. She will find out verrrrrrry soon how little tolerance other men will have for her!

[@babiesandkay7930]

@@nicole3237 Not sure how she's impossible to please? I don't think anyone would want to stay in a relationship where they weren't happy?

[@forgottenmma3694]

Lmao what? Who tf has a panic attack and then busts out the camera. Give me a fugging break

[@avilla4013]

She thought it would be a good idea to make the video together to control the narrative of the break up. She knows she's over it and he's weak enough to not fight back. Her plan didn't work and she got exposed.

[@DaphnesLaurelLeaves]

I commented on a different video that the only thing that bothered me from their break up was that they didn’t try going to therapy before this. It’s really cool to see this point of view.

[@iamkate333]

I feel so bad for their children. In their first blog after their breakup announcement(snowboarding vlog,) their oldest could pick up on their unusual behavior and i could see the lost look on his face. He is old enough to understand part of this. I challenge Oscar and kyra to devote themselves to each other for 4-6 months while engaging in weekely family+couples counseling. Then make their decision knowing that they tried. Sometimes for women if they have another man they are talking to covertly, it makes it extremely easy for them to leave their long term partner. I can't help but to have a feeling she has another man she is talking to. Alot of her behaviors correlate with this

[@shans.1997]

That's the first thing I thought too!! I'm like Kyra HAS to have someone else or she's probably texting someone because she's not even upset it's just so weird!

[@shans.1997]

Like at least show a little remorse or sympathy for Oscar's feelings she's being so selfish

[@bumponalog5001]

Turns out she cheated on him. You were right.

[@checharles5224]

She was dating her friend’s husband

[@NotAMuse]

Dr Honda they made a second follow up video to this! I’d love to see you react to it!

[@comedyfriendsenglish]

I've noticed interesting dynamics in my head in terms of the narratives. I went through a pretty painful "situationship" recently and after I ended it I had all these intense narratives where I was just being used and that they were a psychopath and I was just a victim and so on... After around 2 weeks though these slowly just faded away. And now what's left is just this feeling of gratitude and I genuinely believe they were a really good person and I realised my wrongdoings more and more too. I don't even understand how I was even genuinely believing these intense narratives... but I guess I was just really hurt.

[@fiikahlo]

Maybe it's a fear about some past experience where you've been used or really badly hurt repeating itself? I'm happy for you that you're getting through it 👏 Though it must feel confusing and scary while you're actively experiencing that!

[@comedyfriendsenglish]

​@@fiikahlo Yeah it's true. I defintiely have issues when it comes to "being taken advantage of". Struggled with that as a young child already but luckily I rarely ever act on it. It's mainly just in my head and it's been a long time that I accused someone of it cause I oftentimes know it's just BS. But even though it's mainly just in my head... it's still scary and confusing. It's hard to snap out of. Additionally I feel like a lot of people jump to those intense narratives to not take responsibility for anything themselves. Caught myself doing that too.

[@sakuraesther6309]

@@comedyfriendsenglish Wow same just same

[@CourtLee333]

Gosh where has this channel been my whole life! Yup just found it tonight and will be binge watching☺️

[@2ravens984]

Hey Dr Honda! I would like to add some context to Ed's marriage. Ed saying he was stabbed in the heart is disingenuous. He had an affair while he was married to his wife when she was pregnant with Tiffany.

[@alexikay]

What?

[@2ravens984]

@@alexikay yep.

[@SiminaKiss]

I think with therapy they would have a chance. Working on themselves and working on their relationship together. Well it is their journey

[@sweetluvgurl]

Well, both people have to want to work on it. Personally, I think with 4 kids involved, you’d think they’d at least have tried couple’s counseling. It’s a whole different ballgame when involving kids.

[@SiminaKiss]

@@sweetluvgurl yes it takes two. That is one thing I don‘t get bc I would try therapy so I can least know I tried everything esp considering there are kids involved.

[@thedcp]

I love you Dr Kirk. You are legend.

[@hs-mw6nk]

Thanks so much for sending me here. Remember you shouting in your vidéo 'let him talk' whilst the dr. quietly says 'she just talked over him again..' Funny.

[@rtruth7002]

She cheated and was getting her back blown out for at least a year, and couldn't take the fact that she is wrong so she's running away instead of coming clean.

[@SiminaKiss]

48:36 she had a ruff childhood esp when she did live with her mom. She never told us what exactly happened but I got the feeling it must have been bad.

[@cecygonzalez5027]

She grew up with her mom being a drug addict. Im 99% sure she said that in one of her instagram lives

[@r2488]

They both came from Broken homes and families. And then having a baby young and moving into together set them up with not knowing how to have healthy relationships and family. And I think they both have stunted maturity due to all of this. I see a lack of desire to grow up and instead they are reverting and wanting to act young and do what they missed out but with how many kids they have it’s pretty selfish and I worry the kids will suffer. The nanny already does so much with the kids while kyra is out with her girlfriends and Oscar goes on trips. Not saying parents can’t get away and do what they enjoy but it’s how often they do is weird.

[@sweetluvgurl]

@@r2488 I know. I don’t really understand how they need more freedom when they already do trips and adventurous escapades. Plus, they have nannies helping their kids. And I’m sorry, but why keep having more kids if you are going to have a nanny take care of them? I’m not saying parents can’t have a nanny, but often it shows it is a bit much to handle alone. So, why keep having more kids when the nannies are already helping with the ones you have? It’s kinda like people who get government assistance to raise kids and keep having more despite not financially being able to support them on their own.

[@SiminaKiss]

@@cecygonzalez5027 I can imagine that being a situation where control was missing so she needs it to feel safe. Also she probably had to grow up quicker, possibly do things moms do when it comes to her brother. I mean who knows exactly how it effected we just know it did.

[@MissAdamLambert888]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS! I've been a long time follow of Okbaby (almost 7 years!!!) and really took their break up to heart.

[@scarmoon9395]

Does she always talk over him like this?? I've never seen any of their videos, but she seems to bulldoze over him a lot

[@MissAdamLambert888]

@@scarmoon9395 Yes, Kyra does talk over Oscar a lot. I am used to it tbh 😅 only recently ppl have been pointing it out due to this vid and I went "oh right, it's their dynamic" lol. I personally do not support this behavior of course (though, no hate to her!).

[@TELESHARICE]

I've been watching since her pregnancy test for Alaya. I also took this to heart and felt heartbroken when I saw the breakup video. I feel like those of us who watch all their videos for years are having our own heartbreak with this one. 💔

[@rhondajohnson8310]

Great suggestion ya'll. I don't know this couple but it was kinda cringey to watch but that's how it goes when a relationship goes boom on camera. That being said, I wish them the best.

[@hi-leehi-lohi-la9276]

Idk why he’s doesn’t call her out on interupting, argh.

[@hi-leehi-lohi-la9276]

I commmented before hearing your input re her interrupting. Thank you! Still curious as to how he can allow that to repeatedly occur.

[@vegasgirl7O2]

I see Kyra destroying her family and breaking Oscars heart. 4 kids try a little harder.

[@jules4818]

This is extremely interesting to hear a professional talk about this and not some drama channel… very insightful. Thank you!!

[@barphh]

i hope they see this because these reflections are super in depth and helpful! it even had me reflecting on past and current relationships. thank you for this!

[@corazonsito5531]

Kyra just used Oscar to have babies that’s it after she found out she can’t have more is when everything change and told Oscar to do get surgery so he can’t have no more kids then boom she breaks up with him.

[@RachelOlivia11]

They posted another video about it please do a part 2!!

[@mmtstan9360]

Would you say that the "I want you to be happy with someone else" line of thinking would typically come from someone who has negative schemas about themselves? Like "I am defective and therefore cannot make you happy, and so you should be with someone else"?

[@carr0760]

I think it could be, but really depends on the circumstances. For example, when my mom was dying she told my dad she wanted him to find someone else. She then told me about it, and said "you will have to learn to accept whomever your dad chooses to be with because he is too good of a man to spend the rest of his life alone." The reality is that she was dying, and she loved him enough to want him to be happy. I think the same can also be true during a break up. You can know that the relationship isn't working, and isn't going to work, and therefore realise that both of you can be happier with someone else. In that sense, it could actually be quite a positive thing, because you want the other person to be happy. You care even though you no longer want to be with them. I do agree that it could come from a negative, self deprecating place though.

[@asunnywebb]

No I think we can realize that we aren't the best we can be and they aren't their best when we're together without feeling responsible or lacking in some way. Our triggers can trigger their triggers and vice versa. We can both be great apart but bring out the worst in each other while together.

[@1diana1995]

It probably could be. It depends on the circumstance. In my current situation ( me and my bf are separating because we were the best fit for each other), I genuinely mean that I want him to be happy with someone else that’s a better fit for him.

[@tylermiron6854]

I believe it has a lot more to do with her anger/hatred towards him than a negative schema about herself.

[@SiminaKiss]

Yes it can, esp when you don‘t love yourself or/and you suffer from depression and you put yourself down with your own thoughts. I am sure there are other ways you come to this point. From my own experience everything is possible, more than we can think of.

[@jenaya_laila2442]

I dont agree. He says , hey you hurt me and were unfaithful and she says lets not talk about that and diverts by blaming him for something he didn't do years ago. He then apologises for it..Its a tactic to quickly divert attention and blame without taking responsibility for being unfaithful.

[@table.for_6]

I have been watching this couple since the very beginning of their channel many years ago. Your channel was recommended to me. I liked watching this and getting detail on the truth behind the act based on their body language and such. Kyra has always really struggled in this relationship

[@ashmarion21]

And from my own being dumped experience kyra will most likely get annoyed at how early Oscar is in the grief process because she’s over it already. My ex was annoyed/mad at me daily bc I was so broken and hurt at the current time and he was moved on and attempting to date someone else(married) 😵‍💫 so he was very distant and hurtful towards me.

[@wayne1318]

she doesn't really give him much room to talk and express himself fully without her jumping in. she seems to control the whole conservation.

[@jthayer479]

Yes! I was hoping you'd react to this.

[@shellyb5014]

Listening to this, I feel like she’s trying to spin a narrative… when she lost the battle, she starts bringing up his behavior… I have a feeling they haven’t spoken about these things…especially with a neutral party, like a therapist, to mediate, because you can tell he’s processing a lot of what she’s saying as she’s talking…and she’s not giving him a chance to respond. I think she’s trying to paint that they’re “ok,” but he’s definitely not ok. He’s processing the fact that it’s over while they’re filming a video selling the narrative that we’re ok. That part of my issue with family vloggers… they put out an unrealistic view of life - it’s all rainbows and puppies, when that’s not true. They’re a very young couple who is public with their lives AND have three children… of course stress is bound to happen. Great analysis!

[@emilyrussell9533]

Yessss thank you for reviewing this

[@oliviae2176]

Currently getting my MSW and I found your page. I appreciate your knowledge and perspective!

[@gwendelynohrazda]

Watching your commentary is like seeing her side for the first time. I definitely picked my side quickly and it made it very hard to consider the other person 🤦‍♀️ Very interesting, love it! 👏👏👏

[@DestinyLynnBabyy]

You definitely need to do a reaction to their Q&A Break up video they give you more insight.

[@lisaterrypccma]

Today, on a live Insta., she admits that she has a crush on someone else. Kyra had a tough childhood and has never worked through it. She has also never found herself, being a teen mother and straight into a relationship. I have a great faith in God and it disappointed me that she said she did not believe in God. I pray for the whole family.

[@pinkpavy7830]

Thank you so much for reacting to this!

[@ryleevadenais3549]

You should do their q&a video after this one!

[@scarlette_rot]

How are you completely missing how narcissistic, manipulative and toxic this woman was coming across? This is the reason people requested for you to analyse this video. He appears heartbroken over his 7 year old relationship coming to an end, while she is cheery and quite happy, almost relieved. If that isn't a telltale sign that she's already involved with another person then I don't know what is. She ended up moving out 3 weeks later when they originally planned to continue living together. That says a lot. I feel horrible for this guy, he deserves so much better. I hope he finds true happiness and love with someone who wont up and leave after years together to "find themselves"

[@Kennia1998]

You are assuming and that's a bad thing