MARSHALL VALVESTATE IN A PEDAL? - Martyr Pedal

[@Maddix18]

I would love to see Ola testing out the TC Electronic Dual Wreck, as he is an expert on Dual Rectifiers.

[@randomrob2221]

And the 5150 and the marshal ones as well

[@funkyfurballs1078]

Haven't heard much good about the TC DW... Many have mentioned it sounding fizzy.

[@someonehadtosayit2566]

I have one and while I’ve never played a real dual rectifier, plugging the dual wreck into the return of my Marshall with an overdrive boost next to it as you would with the real thing and an eq pedal, it’s a beast. It also has the same sound as the Mooer micro 011 preamp also based on the dual rectifier so I’m guessing they’re a very close match.

[@AdamJonMusic]

I absolutely love my Dual Wreck. Sounds great but a LITTLE fizzy if you run it like a distortion pedal. If you run it like a preamp, the way it's meant to be used, it sounds MASSIVE. huge chunks with cutting high end.. love it

[@someonehadtosayit2566]

@@AdamJonMusic that’s exactly how I run it but with an overdrive to boost just like you would the amp and an eq pedal after it.

[@SoloSabbath]

Love that you're testing Master Effects pedals. I have the Iommi inspired Cross and I love it. Great addition to my collection.

[@pahaahv]

Tubescreamer + ss marshall is super underrated combo, a lot of tones hidden there.

[@TheStringDojo]

I own a 2x12 valvestate from the late 90's and its quite there, I think a little more gain also

[@recklesstoboggan]

My understanding, from talking with Master Effects, is the pedals are accurate recreations of preamps meant to be used in the effects return of your amp, bypassing the amps own preamp. I have several Master Effects pedals, including an earlier version of the Martyr, and their amp in a box pedals are really really good. Great engineering, well built, and sound a lot like the amp they're after. ME pedals generally sound best pounding through a closed back cab. My first "big amp" was a Marshall VS265. 65 watts. 1 tube (12ax7). 2 x 12". Stereo Chorus. 3 channels (clean, od1 - crunchy, od2 - smoother lead high gain). Unreal cleans for a pedal platform. The gain was more vintage-y than the 8100s. I gigged that amp for over a decade through several bands.

[@HAHb-zc2dp]

Hi you're not wrong but not right, some of the pedals are absolutely NOT meant to be used in the effects loop. The maker is my neighbor I can literally see him through my side window here in Calgary

[@HAHb-zc2dp]

From the website here is an example,the misathrope- Note that this pedal is intended to be used in front of a guitar amplifier and that using it direct into a power amp or FX loop return may not yield intended results. Always follow the makers recommendations kids

[@MasterEffectsPedals]

@@HAHb-zc2dp wait wat?

[@antonkovalenko364]

I've been wanting one of those for years now. ❤

[@SixSixthSix]

I could listen to him all day, what a positive man! ❤

[@Deafeningstorm]

I have 2 8100s. One head and matching cabinet that I’ve had since 1995 and another head I bought years later. Both have more gain than this pedal. The tone is really close but needs more gain in my opinion.

[@cope847]

I have 2 valvestates. The original 8100 and the 2nd gen vs100. This pedal sounds pretty similar to the 8100. It's not crazy high gain. Using a boost is almost a must.

[@francoisthibeaux-brignoles8399]

Then how did Chuck use it without a boost? Was the "booster" just his pickup?

[@drenz]

he used a dimarzio x2n pickup, its output is massive@@francoisthibeaux-brignoles8399

[@craigharrison5406]

X2N is an insane pickup. I have 3 guitars equipped with it. It's the only passive pickup that can compete with my EMG guitars for high gain.@@francoisthibeaux-brignoles8399

[@JoaoSergio7]

@@francoisthibeaux-brignoles8399 yes, basically. The X2N was pretty much the hottest pickup Chuck could find back then

[@SwedishMeattball]

nobu gotta crank it 8100 needs no boost

[@Zeff4Life]

I used an 8200, for years! Took some flack for running a SS amp, from my purest friends. But, it sounded great, and was bulletproof, logging many miles.. The pots finally got so crunchy, I donated it to a friend..

[@AdamYoudell]

This guy is definitely your best bet if you want that sound cause getting one of those heads will be expensive and maybe not in the greatest shape. Wish I wouldn't have sold mine back in the 90's

[@andrewblack7037]

I was gonna say they aren't that expensive i picked one up a few years back for £100 but just searched for 8100's for sale and see the price has shot up 😯

[@Dethmothcreations]

@@andrewblack7037 blows my mind, my old band bought one ten years back for $90 as a backup!

[@SGavin]

Sounded great with the boost and playing the Death riffs.

[@leduck6225]

I would love to see Ola testing the new Boss Ir2 Pedal..

[@nena_DP]

2:09 I unironically love this super scooped sound. Maybe not this much tho

[@Bub123]

Sounds nice, but yeah it does need the tube screamer to be satisfying.

[@wojtekyt6690]

I do not know how you do this but even on my smartphone all your amp testing records sounds sooo good

[@Lungorizz]

Hope your back is feeling better, happy to see you sitting

[@Taylor___]

Everything he plays sounds mint because he’s got a great pick attack and left hand technique

[@zander9486]

Nah its the pickups

[@givemeajackson]

@@zander9486 guitarists will do absolutely everything to avoid acknowledging that speaker and microphones matter. has to be everything but that lmao.

[@givemeajackson]

@@LeeGee seems like guitarists want to constantly pretend like they are the only thing that matters and completely ingore that recording guitars and instruments in general is a skill of its own that a person like ola has honed for more than 20 years... "Tone is in the fingers" is bullshit. Go download one of ola's DIs and see if you can make it sound like this. Or watch premiere guitar's horrendous monsters of high gain series, where they got ola to play the demos, but didn't have him do the production. Which sounded like absolute shit in like 5/6 videos

[@Taylor___]

@@givemeajackson I think finger tone and guitar set up is key! But speaker and mic config for sure is important too.

[@kiillabytez]

That's what he told her!

[@NoPriorRecords]

I still have my Marshall Valvestate 100V that I purchased used back in ‘94 I think it was and I can say that it is still a powerhouse for doing metal rhythms. It’s alright for leads but, definitely needs help from a tube screamer to cut through. I probably could use changing out the pots for a lot of the controls but, it still gets the job done once I get them locked in the right place. That pedal sounded pretty close.

[@jarikoskenniska299]

Perfect for leads and solos! Great review Ola!

[@mozartpinheiro6159]

That day arrived, I really wanted to see Ola testing this pedal.

[@hardluckjaymusic7799]

I used to own a Marshall valve state and it definitely had a lot more gain than that pedal. A friend of mine still owns that amp, so I am still familiar with how it sounds.🤘

[@benjaminnevins5211]

Get well soon! We need happy Ola back!

[@E.C.Robson]

Hell yeah, me owning and playing the VS 200 for more than 20 years, this pedal really dös sound alike!!! thx4sharing

[@CrushingAxes]

Cooo man! I love those marshall in a box, i have a pal 800, it's an amazing pedal! Hope your back is better dude!!! Hope to see you back to headbanging soon 🤟🤟🤟🤟

[@Necronomikyle]

Tubescreamers are like the Duct tape of guitar tone.:P

[@batastrophic9762]

"I don't know if this is exact same amount of gain as on a Marshall Valvestate" Idk man. Idunno what Valvestate's you've used (more than me for sure), but My old Valvestate 40W could only be convinced to "chug"™with a guitar with considerably spicy pickups and an OD at the minimum... then some magic would creep through. I even felt I had to turn up the overdrive on my OD808 a bit. Like most Marshalls, great tone, but a bit too underpowered, but an X2N would have done it. The gain on this pedal seems par for course. I was kind of hoping that this pedal would keep the tone but be built with more gain. Missed opportunity! Are there any pedals that do the Marshall thing well, but can get filthy? Would be interested to know.

[@Mistertyrannosaurus]

As an 8100 owner, when you put the TS on it, that sounds like the stock 8100 to me. My amp has a ton of gain on tap, I actually really love the tone of that amp. I do like these Master Effects pedals, not completely sold on this one though.

[@cope847]

My 8100 isn't that high gain. It actually sounds more like the pedal not boosted. I had to have mine repaired. It didn't make any sound when I got it. That might have something to do with it.

[@Mistertyrannosaurus]

@@cope847 shouldn't make too much of a difference. I run mine through a JCM800 cab and it honestly sounds huge. Not my favourite sounding amp of all time, but plenty loud and heavy enough

[@MaaZeus]

​@@cope847This is my experience with the old 8100 also. It had gain but it was not a gain monster even with X2N pickups. Maxed out was sort if "comfortable" metal tone as far as distortion goes but if I wanted to play something really aggressive I had to boost mine.

[@shadowviper957]

With that TS boost before is just nasty nice!! 🤘🔥🔥🤘

[@ProjectCreativityGuy96]

_“Without Ola Englund, life, would be a mistake!”_ - Friedrich Nietzsche.

[@schuldinerfan95]

I have the 8100, 8080 and 2nd gen VS65R. Great amps. X2N plus 8100 (and also 8080, which is the combo version of the 8100 head) - no need for boost. And I don't like using a lot of gain, I have it about 2 o'clock max. I also like to use a Shredmaster reissue into IR for a "less raw old school Death tone", but still have to dime the treble on the pedal and IR loader pedal... just for a "silent and quick setup". Great review. As mentioned, I would also love to see Ola testing out the TC Electronic Ampworx pedals.

[@lozovoymax1941]

I have one. They nailed that contour knob, but pedal lacks some gain.

[@MaaZeus]

I dunno. I did own the 1st gen Valvestate 8100 and for metal the only setting that was usable was max gain. And that was with uber hot X2N pick ups! (I was a bit of a Chuck fanboy back then 😁). Even maxed out it was not really a gain monster and if you wanted to get some serious sizzle and fizzle out of it I had to boost it. But again this is about the 1st gen Valvestates. Maybe the later generations had more? *edit* Oh, and one important thing with the Valvestate was to use a patch cable in the FX Loop, if it was not in use for pedals, and have the FX Loop activated. That made it sound chunkier for some reason compared to FX Loop bypassed normally. They probably did not implement this feature into this pedal either.

[@tuomaspietinen1485]

Tack Ola för deja-vu! I remember the 8100 head having tons of gain. Had it in the 90:s, now only some recordings are left from the actual sound. It wasnt that bad actually, and the contour control was good. You could adjust between a clearer, more fusion- type gain into a shred sound in a second. Later I didnt like a Tubemeister 18 at all that much as it had less controls over the sound.

[@matthewbeck7101]

I've owned the original Marshall VS 8100 100W head forever. At low volumes, it's a little lacking in gain so a boost before the preamp is important. At high volumes, you can get away without the boost. Sound is fairly close although I don't think the contour knob on mine can scoop it as much as I heard in the video.

[@marko_makinen]

Doesn't sound half bad! I have the real thing (8100) and I agree, it has more gain than this pedal.

[@dreamsofcosmicoceans8105]

I put an SD-1 in front of the amp and it was sick...

[@needsLITHIUM]

Won't matter if you just plan to boost it or throw something like an HM-2 in front of it, dual track it, or run it in a stereo rig with another distortion.

[@nicholasmullins3693]

Yeah, that's kind of the great thing about using a boost. Like, if you use the tube screamer you can just turn the tone knob down to turn off the high pass feature so it better replicates a higher output pickup.​@@needsLITHIUM

[@User-gfys-0icu81]

Had the 8100 when i toured and now i use the vs65r at home. Just wish this one had the mid-scoop option on the gain channel, not the clean. 😂

[@Stretchwreckedem469]

In a weird way, the tube screamer in front gives the pedal a kind of Ampeg VH140c kind of sound with how it both sounds warmer than most solid state amps, yet tight enough for fast chugs and arpeggios. It’s a really cool sound!

[@User-gfys-0icu81]

Billy Gibbons also uses the vs100.

[@jimsinister13]

Please do a review of the boss IR-2 Amp and Cabinet Pedal 👍🏼

[@StonyBlazestation]

I bought one of these a few months ago and I actually prefer it over some of my Synergy stuff and the Tonex. I run parametric EQ and Klon clone pedals in front of it, and it's perfect for that super scooped 80s thrash tone that I have been chasing since I first started playing guitar.

[@jackclayton5620]

3:56 that tone is fucking spot on to crystal mountain. I am getting me one of these pedals

[@Charlie_Alpha_Echo]

Came to hear the “Symbolic” riffs! 🤘🏼

[@ThisUnderWorldOfDarkness]

4:54 - Glenn Flicker styling it there Ola? LOL

[@bmsmusician]

Hope you get a chance to try and make a video on the UA OX Stomp!

[@herrdoctorsloth9801]

The Electro-Harmonix English Muff'n is supposed to be a Marshall JCM 800 preamp with two 12AT7 tubes(can swap them out to 12AX7's for m0ar gain!) in a pedal, and is next on my list of pedals that I neeeeeed. It works wonders on bass too ;)

[@DielectricFailure]

As someone who’s suffered a back injury, I hope your recovery is swift.

[@wilsonkeeler5977]

I was hoping he was going to pull out the chuck schuldiner stealth just to see with the x2n what it would sound like

[@timrussellguitar1516]

I owned an 8280 Marshall Valvestate. Was a great amp. BTW Ola, it’s it ain’t estate it’s state Valvestate Brother..

[@watcherzero000]

I see Master Effects has Vulgar pedal based on the Randall RG100 amp on their website.

[@batastrophic9762]

Interesting. I have an RG100. Unlike the Valvestates, the RGs are definitely not short of gain. Presumably the pedal will be the same, as I feel the gain on this is similar to that on the Valvestates.

[@clowncorpse7230]

Andy La'Roque of King Diamond also used a Valvestate on the Individual Thought Patterns album for his leads,I thought gis lead tone was amazing with it, also the gain on the pedal sounds less than Valvestates I have used

[@crackedspyglass]

I have one of the older ones that included the OD1 mode that no one used.

[@lost_in_the_battlefield7593]

I used to have a fullstack valvstate, love it, got it for $500 sold it regretted it, a few years later i found another, half stack, in stupidity, sold it also

[@KyleAnderson-el6pi]

I have both. 2 valvestate 8100s and the Martyr pedal and it is remarkably close. With a boost (I’m using a boss SD1) I can get them near identical. I’m also using a Dimarzio X2N in a Chuck tribute guitar. Love the pedal and can recommend to those that can’t find an 8100

[@spitonamonument]

I just ordered a martyr and have a chuck Schuldiner tribute as well. How does the martyr sound with it?

[@KyleAnderson-el6pi]

It sounds really really close.

[@jamestford3963]

Tube Screamers make everything better.

[@nicolasbeaudry6158]

Ola i got a zoom tri metal from a pawn shop for 40$ can. And now they got up the 250 plus used . Try one for your next pedal try out. It’s a killer one man🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥

[@SwedishMeattball]

is it good asthebigger older pedal

[@search895]

I tried the Caline Englishman and it sounded just like my Valvestate 8080. It would need a noisegate tho.

[@AuntAlnico4]

😂 Really ? Your amp was as bass heavy as the pedal ? That pedal has too much bass .

[@oviekpolugbo4227]

I love Death, but I'm not a fan of Chuck's tone after Scream Bloody Gore. The pedal sounds ok though.

[@lewissharman409]

I got the super 400 from master effects and that’s a great pedal

[@multimike2030]

Anyone else hear Iced Earth when he was playing Death?? The sound really reminded me of Burnt Offerings...not bad! Perhaps putting the treble at high all the way would have gotten that shrieky gain that Chuck got?? I know it was already up really high, just wondering....

[@Rstyzr]

Ola how you put this tube screamer and pedal with a cabin simulation?does it sound with your audio interface only?..does it sound with plugins only?....

[@klaushaerens9960]

one question ola, wich scale do you use for the haunted songs

[@vikingnortheast]

chuck did use a ds-1

[@zaturnneo]

We need a review of old ass gear. Like the Digitech RP7 Valve and older modelers. 😛

[@matthewearl9824]

I have 2 Marshall 8100s. To me they do sound different than the pedal. I am not knocking the pedal as it sounds damn good, probably closest thing available. The original 8100's require a boost if you want it in to go into a searing frenzy. The OD2 even maxed out is usually pushed by high output pickups to get it into the heavy gain category. I use X2N and a level boost into the OD1 channel to get great solo tones which in my opinion sound more defined and cleaner than OD2 with or without boosts/high output pickups. My personal opinion.

[@AiiZStudio]

It definitely sounds like a valvestate! I have an 8100 and this pedal sounds just like it!! -Toby

[@AiiZStudio]

Also, cryptopsy were using 8100s with metal zones back in the day!!

[@TheZxman]

Awesome sound!!! What gauge strings are you using

[@AlexT1212]

You seem so happy about this

[@F1B3Rr]

Cant wait to see you guys at sweden rock! :)

[@homemetalstudios759]

8100! wisconsin death trip baby!!

[@Steliosflevarakis]

It's perfect

[@dooley9621]

Thanks Brother

[@MercyNoMore]

That sounds pretty damn good

[@Bekir-l4y]

when new will it chug Ola???

[@Sourgiesel]

Ola can you demo the Master Effects The Cross. It's supposed to be a clone of iommi's Laney amp.

[@kkpiemels3113]

Its an amazing piece of gear

[@JasonGreen-n3l]

Seems pretty similar. 8100s are awesome (I use the head), but the pots go bad after awhile and I don't trust the effects loop, they can get weird. The valvestate 2000s were crap. I always thought the Marshall Jackhammer was very close to the valvestate. It came out around the same time and also had a contour knob.

[@AuntAlnico4]

😂 The AVT 2000 Marshall amps were not crap. They just had more bass than the first 2 iterations of said amp.

[@mixedmartialnutrition1746]

So the amp is a hybrid then not full ss nor full tube amp

[@mad-angler]

Tube screamer gives it the edge it needed

[@222MovieMan]

I'm thinking of buying any distorton pedal that is good. Maximum of 1500 kronor. Anyone have a good suggestion?

[@stug5041]

I don't have an 8100, but this pedal isn't really sounding super unique to me - i feel like I can get this tone with my DSL and perhaps some tweaking with an EQ in the loop.

[@lepotat3700]

Hey ola, I'd really like to see you do a will it chug/ola testing shit of the lichtlaerm/cult fx total distortion worship. I'd like to see your take on it

[@MASTERRIFFS]

☠️☠️☠️COOL pedal☠️☠️☠️😁

[@elkaro5]

I have a 8080. This sound is home to me... 😅

[@synthkatt]

I had one until i got my fractals. youll def need an x2n to sound like chuck with that pedal. i ran it through a 6l6 power amp and it was dead on Death tone.

[@VinceMusicianG]

I just sold 2 valve state amps they weren't for me this pedal doesnt sound too bad though

[@rocketpigrecords3719]

Seems weak, but I "only" had a VS100H so I'm not cool enough for the headbanging cork sniffers out there. I wonder if they threw some JFETS in to make up for no tube. It is a part of the circuit...lol run it into an ART Tube MP & see what happens 😂

[@wolfscreed6664]

I played with a Volvstate for many years but switched to Hughes and Kettner. My son recently tried it out also using a Tube screamer and it sounds great for metal. Hes using a Jackson, I use Ibanez and Hughes is a better fit for me but Volvstate is sounding crisp and heavy as hell especially at a high volume.

[@jesseparrish9198]

Black spirit 200?

[@wolfscreed6664]

@@jesseparrish9198 yes its awesome

[@AIC68]

🤘😈🤘🔥🔥🔥

[@MrGul]

Both an excellent review and a masterclass in mispronunciation of names.

[@pehhah5660]

😂

[@someonehadtosayit2566]

@ola, you used the wrong valvestate in the Death video which was why you had a hard time dialing it in. The amp you used was a valvestate vs100 but the amp Chuck used was a valvestate 8100 which is what the martyr is based off of. The vs100 and 8100 are commonly confused with one another but you got closer to the Death sound in this short video than you did in the video using the vs100.

[@TheCyberMantis]

It sounded like crap until you hit it with the Tubescreamer. It sounded pretty good with the TS.

[@adrianm7960]

Oh, the old chair!

[@jackclayton5620]

Schuldiner is a genius and the greatest to ever do death metal! RIP

[@Defleshuary]

Can't spell death metal without Death! Dude was the best.

[@jackclayton5620]

@@Defleshuary wholeheartedly agree

[@JenMajuraOfficial]

🤘🏼

[@davelanciani-dimaensionx]

I'm always surprised that so many modern pedals and amps still need the TS style pedal in front for that boost and mid-bump. Have amp and pedal makers just decided to ignore the thing that we all do, or do they all just think we're immediately going to put the TS-pedal-of-our-choice in front of the amp no matter what?

[@JesusAriasAvila]

The mass of people that use pedals do not play metal exclusively. When you look at it from that angle, you can understand that the output level is lower in general for a reason. And to satisfy metal market, there are a lot of amplifiers (modellers mostly) that have an overdrive integrated that you can turn on if needed.

[@davelanciani-dimaensionx]

@@JesusAriasAvila Very true. This pedal does look like it is marketed mainly to metal players, but lower gain settings might work for rock and blues.

[@anup8195]

Can you try line6 UBER METAL.

[@Drummuz]

Ola is Sit !! Yeah !

[@ΣτέλιοςΦλεβαρακης-γ1δ]

Its very good i want a by

[@wiseyoda89]

I had a little Valvestate combo back in the day. Hearing those first few chords defo brought back memories of jamming Motley Crue in my friend’s garage 😂. I even cut slits in the speaker after reading about Ray Davies doing that... bad move lol.

[@Pointsbeingmade]

Mush catch em all!