OLD 2 Stage Air Compressor ~ FREE Compressor Decision Time! ~ RESTORATION Part 1

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Salvage Workshop

Salvage Workshop

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@Techsus1
@Techsus1 5 жыл бұрын
You can’t go wrong with any of these compressors. I’m partial to the Champion, the Saylor-Beall has a great pump, and the Curtis seems to match the color of the exterior of your shop...but as a fan of your channel the only correct answer is: RESTORE ALL THREE!!! But if that isn’t an option, I say build a “Franken-pressor” - utilizing the best pump/best motor/best tank.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I agree Champion and Saylor-Beall are great compressors, and I'm pumped to have one of each! I won't restore the Curtis because it seems fine and I just don't have the time, money, or desire to do all 3! The champion will probably be the "Franken-pressor"! Because its the roughest! I haven't fully decided, but I have a few cool ideas!
@ralphpearson2291
@ralphpearson2291 2 жыл бұрын
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@littlefishbigpond5769
@littlefishbigpond5769 5 жыл бұрын
I would go with the Saylor Beal compressor personally due to the fact they have great customer service and replacement parts are available. I've rebuilt several Ingersoll Rand compressors, If you are doing this to use in your shop be sure to replace piston rings and hone the cylinders. Upon start up, let the compressor run for several hours straight to break the new rings in. Look forward to seeing which route you take!
@eribou13
@eribou13 5 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about compressors, but I still enjoy watching these videos, and feel like I am learning something just by watching! Also, it's crazy how much just pressure washing that compressor got off!
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Pressure washing! Ahhhhh SATISFYING! That's the amazing thing about this kind of video, you don't HAVE to know anything about them to follow along and enjoy the process!
@johnburnitin1027
@johnburnitin1027 5 жыл бұрын
Having spent 25 years repairing rotary and reciprocating air compressors, I can say that things have to be pretty bad, internally before a compressor is scrap! I have only run across two, in 25 years that weren't worth repairing. The Saylor Beall is your best bet. Great compressor and great customer service. I'd use the three phase motor on it, though. They are a lot heavier duty than a single phase motor.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
The Saylor Beall is the one I chose! I also recently came into a saylor Beall 707 clone and a Quincy qt-25... not sure what the plan will be with them, but they are monster compressors!!
@Rusty_ok
@Rusty_ok 5 жыл бұрын
You hit the jackpot here my friend. I would go with one of the uprights as they take less floor space. Then I would pick to one with the highest CFM. You probably know to Check the tanks to make sure they are not rust damaged. Can you build a shelter outside the shop to minimize the noise. If you decide to throw one away throw it my direction.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I agree!! I am pumped to have these! I agree on checking the tanks, and in the tank and motor video I will demonstrate Hydro Testing a tank! I thought about pouring a small concrete pad off the back of the shop and building a small shed just to hold the compressor in, but getting the compressor to that spot wouldn't be an easy task. If I junk em, Ill give you a call! Great thoughts!
@Sam-ob4of
@Sam-ob4of Жыл бұрын
*l/min
@russellrico1378
@russellrico1378 6 ай бұрын
Matt I watch all of your videos. You are living my dream only you do it correctly. I sometimes watch your videos over and over again. It’s too late for me now but I do enjoy you and your. Brothers working together and fixing something. I wish I had done what you are doing now. Keep up the fantastic work you are doing.
@sthenzel
@sthenzel 5 жыл бұрын
Pressure test all three tanks first. If one has an issue, restoration of it is pretty much worthless. If all tanks are fine: Get rid of the Curtis first. Check if it works (maybe on a borrowed vfd or such), if yes, it´s the best looking and the newest one, so it will more easily find a buyer than one of the others (saves money). From the other two I would choose the one with the higher pump cfm / better flow (pipe diameter), if floor space isn´t a factor. If it is, well the only the left one remains. But - if both move about the same air, the Saylor-Beall can be kept mobile more easily and it has the larger tank and also seems to have much less outside corrosion than the Champion.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
In the tank and motor video you will see me hydro test a tank! I think I will sell the Curtis as is, and that will be a huge help in paying for the parts and materials I need to complete the installation and restoration of the compressor! Good thoughts, thank you!
@300DBenz
@300DBenz 5 жыл бұрын
Salvage Workshop Restore the Saylor-Beall and KEEP IT, they are a total workhorse! My shop has BOTH the Champion and the Saylor-Beall! I rebuilt the S-B last year and even though it was over 45 years old, and survived a tank explosion, all it basically needed was new valves! Barely any wear on the bearings and virtually no wear on the cylinder walls! It’s also very quiet compared to any other similar sized compressor. Also, Rustoleum has the exact shade of hammered textured paint in a spray can, so no custom mixed paint needed for a full resto since someone has repainted it the wrong color. The Champion R15 (which I haven’t done anything but oil and filter changes at the shop) same vintage as the S-B, and has out lived 2 electric motors.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
@@300DBenz You better believe I'm keeping the Saylor-Beall! Possibly the Champion too! Do you know the rustolem paint color for the saylor beall? I have a pretty cool idea for both of them... Stay Tuned!
@300DBenz
@300DBenz 5 жыл бұрын
Salvage Workshop it’s “Stops Rust®️Hammered”, and I can’t remember if it’s Light Blue or Verde Green (I’ll have to look when I go back to work tomorrow). I don’t know what color your tank is painted, but it looked like it was a regular solid color, not hammered, you’re on your own for that.
@MrJohnnaz
@MrJohnnaz 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, but I don't think you could go wrong with any of them as they are all fine units. I would tend to go with the Saylor-Beall but I'm biased as hell because they are made in my home town. It's small, only around 7500 people. I once shipped a Lathe by truck and when the driver opened the door of the truck there where four brand new S-B compressors on board. We both just stood there and ogled them for minute. I think 2- 20 HP four cylinder units and a couple of upright 5 HP units. My uncle works for Quincy compressors, and was sent to negotiate the purchase of S-B by Quincy but the deal fell through.
@pvcarmon1
@pvcarmon1 3 жыл бұрын
The Saylor Beal is without a doubt one of the best compressors in the world. There was one in the mechanic shop I used to work for in the 90 and it was old and neglected back. Fast forward 2021 shop changed hands still same unit runs 7 days a week owner said they haven't even added or changed oil since they been there.
@Eckat-y6r
@Eckat-y6r 4 ай бұрын
I use something similar to the one at 2:39 in my garage, only I have a complete homemade one, equipped with two compressor heads from a ZIL-130 truck, liquid cooling and forced lubrication systems, a 220-volt DC motor and approximately the same receiver, a real one. beast
@midgoog2
@midgoog2 5 жыл бұрын
The Champion takes up less floor space but the Saylor Beall has the larger storage capacity so will cycle less often in theory. Cheers Eric
@papabits5721
@papabits5721 4 жыл бұрын
A hot water pressure washer would be your best investment
@ciscolm
@ciscolm 3 жыл бұрын
I would go with the Curtis always had good luck with the.
@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the decision is made.. its the nice horizontal one. btw.. I would add an air dryer to it as well, while its down on the ground and being worked on.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely the horizontal tank, and a dryer is also planned! the additional 40 gallons of air capacity will be a big help!
@SkinnyBiker
@SkinnyBiker 5 жыл бұрын
5HP single phase motors are cheap to repower your 3 phase. I have my main compressor and an old spare compressor and motor on a frame that I use when using air hungry tools for the extra capacity. I.E. sand blaster. Both compressors feed the same 120 gallon tank. I don't have room for 2 tanks but occasionally need the extra capacity. Keep your higher capacity compressors.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Good thought on having a backup! I think the Curtis / 3 phase compressor is going up for sale to hopefully help cover the costs of the parts and materials I will need to restore and install the compressor in the shop! Great thoughts!
@bcouri1
@bcouri1 5 жыл бұрын
ive had good experiences with pacific air compressors as well.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that! They are awesome to work with, no matter what problem you are having or part you need!!
@bcouri1
@bcouri1 5 жыл бұрын
@@SalvageWorkshop not to mention full on rebuild kits for unsupported and obsolete models
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
@@bcouri1 AGREED!
@tbay4591
@tbay4591 5 жыл бұрын
Good morning, I have run a Saylor-Beall like the one you have with a gas 10 HP Honda in a skid cage for marine use. The unit is bulletproof, it has been underwater twice, pulled it out totally disassembled cleaned reassembled....still going strong. Changing the valve discs is a breeze, take the time to make decent tools to remove the valve covers. Good to go!
@MrHowieZ1973
@MrHowieZ1973 5 жыл бұрын
I own three Saylor Beall air compressors. They are one of the bests out there. I have had Champion, IR, and Quincy . The Quincy was second to the Saylor .
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I definitely appreciate YOUR feedback since you have owned so many of the best high end compressors! Saylor Beall is the route I chose!! If you haven't see the video yet, I finished restoring it! Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for watching and commenting! I truly appreciate the support! Lot's more to come!
@davidgrason161
@davidgrason161 Жыл бұрын
I have a Saylor-Beall that is identical to your's except mine has an 80 gallon tank instead of the 120. I bought it new in 1983 and the motor burned up just this past year. It's been great and, it may sound silly, but I want to fix the motor just for sentimental reasons. Great video
@ClintFomby
@ClintFomby 3 ай бұрын
I’m about to buy one with 80 gal. I can’t decide if I should go with 3hp or 5hp motor for the 705 pump. What do you think?
@ClintFomby
@ClintFomby 3 ай бұрын
I hope they make them as good as they used to 😊
@omfdcap2
@omfdcap2 5 жыл бұрын
Saylor Beall ... Made in St Johns Michigan.. I have a vertical Saylor Beall 80 gallon... Love it
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
You got it! Still made here in the USA!! Great compressors!
@hazegoodman6666
@hazegoodman6666 5 жыл бұрын
Please continue in these great videos all the best
@Andrewausfa
@Andrewausfa 5 жыл бұрын
Keep the Curtis, as it's in such good condition (well externally) plus it's a small footprint, for the future, restore the middle one. Re: your videos, I think a lot of people like seeing one mans junk turn into another mans treasure, if you have that saying in the US. Plus you have an amazing work space filled with equipment I am so jealous of! I fix old radios and electronics just for the pleasure of it, so sort of similar. Regards _ Andrew
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
We definitely have that saying here!! I change it a little bit though: "one mans trash is usually another man's trash, but SOMETIMES it's treasure!" I appreciate the compliments on the shop, It's a fun place to work! That is awesome that you fix old radios, I have always enjoyed those, and wish I knew more about them! I agree on viewers enjoying the junk turn into treasure. I think the Curtis is probably the best one to sell because it looks great and is newer! That would be a big help paying for the parts and supplies I need to get this project done! Thanks for watching and commenting! Lots more to come!
@whocares6698
@whocares6698 5 жыл бұрын
Don't know anything about compressors, so let's start with what's the difference between the one phase and three phase motors? Is the three phase better? I like restoration stuff, so just going by looks, I'd like to see the Champion, the stand up green one because it looks like it needs more help.
@whocares6698
@whocares6698 5 жыл бұрын
If the tanks , motors, compressors are interchangeable then keep the Champion compressor and use the largest tank.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I am no expert by any means, and maybe someone will chime in, but Its not about better or worse. Typically 3 phase power is used in commercial and industrial settings. If you understand the difference between 110V and 220V (both are single phase), think of 3 phase as 440 volt. It is very expensive for someone to have it run to their personal property, and most people will never have a need for that kind of power! Good call on the shape of the Champion compressor!
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they can be interchangeable, and some things will change!
@whocares6698
@whocares6698 5 жыл бұрын
Its so nice that you always answer me , thank you.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
@@whocares6698 It might not always be right away, but I do my best! Thank you for continuing to watch and comment! It means a lot! Not to mention that it helps my channel grow! So thank YOU for that!
@1955DavidH
@1955DavidH 5 жыл бұрын
It would depend on which tank was in best condition as that is usually goes bad.
@donaldmccombs5566
@donaldmccombs5566 5 жыл бұрын
Anybody else notice that the pressure washer sounds like an army of pissed off mosquitoes.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Or Hornets!
@Comm0ut
@Comm0ut Жыл бұрын
RPCs are good but so are VFDs. I run various machines using both. USB borescopes are dirt cheap and let you perform a visual in-tank inspection. DO SO. Tanks are prone to rust from indifferent owners (I leave my drain valves slightly cracked). I would fix at least two then stagger the pressure switch settings and run them off different circuits but shared air manifold or have a V-air hose whip for high demand use like sand blasting. Industry often does this with a couple of small compressors per large reservior. Spare tanks can go closer to point of use, for example outdoors, and live on a wheeled cart for easy mobility.
@Precivilization
@Precivilization 5 жыл бұрын
I think you should build a shed outside of your shop and keep the compressor on it for noise and safety.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Great thought! I considered that, and that would be a great solution to reducing the sound, but the only location I would like to put it would be a bit difficult to get the compressor to. For now it's going to live in the back corner. Thanks for watching and commenting! Lots more to come!
@pvcarmon1
@pvcarmon1 3 жыл бұрын
Also Salor Beal has unloaded, pressure lube, and spin on filter options truly one of the best pumps on earth!
@jlibb099
@jlibb099 5 жыл бұрын
I only wish I were in your shoes, 3 free compressors and you can pick and choose from the group. Generally, but not always, 3 phase power (provided by the utility) has a lower cost per Kwh. I can't address the cost of using a phase converter or other device to power 3 phase from single phase. Timothy Allen commented he has two compressors pumping into a single tank, not a bad idea as pressure recovery/maintenance would be pretty quick. All of the pumps appear to be two-stage but I don't know which of those has the greatest capacity. Now that all of that has been said, build the pump that fits your requirements (shop space, pump capacity, and any other needs) the best.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I definitely got lucky on 2 of them... I did buy the champion as part of a dilapidated machine shop I bought last year! But who's keeping track! They are great compressors! Ya IDK about the cost of running a phase converter, but I do know that having 3 phase run to my shop would be insanely expensive! Maybe if I ever build a shop, Ill have 3 phase installed... until then I'll have to muddle through with single phase LOL! Stay tuned! I have a really cool idea for a couple of these compressors!
@cecil6711
@cecil6711 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the champion restored. :-)
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
You may get your wish! Thanks for watching and commenting! Lots more to come!
@ashforkdan
@ashforkdan 3 жыл бұрын
The 3 phase is the best you can all ways change the motor.
@wetdedstuocm
@wetdedstuocm 5 жыл бұрын
Compressor heads can be rebuilt as you know. The Tank is the question when in doubt scrap it out, I like vertical tanks, take up less space.. This is going to be a interesting series..Peace
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
You got it, and you'll see a full rebuild of the compressor pump! I like vertical tanks too, but the one on the champion is pretty much rotted through, and I don't trust it, so I may convert another horizontal tank to a vertical tank and mount the champion onto it! We'll have to see! Great thought, thank you!
@shack_67
@shack_67 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about those myself, that horizontal looks very familiar to a shop that used to do alot of body work on heavy equipment. The guy swore by it
@larrypierce2777
@larrypierce2777 3 жыл бұрын
Let me say this, you take each one of them and see if they work. All three are a gold mine. You ask what happens when you lose a compressor? Where's your back up? Well, it's sitting right in front of you. I always had a backup to the main Compressor. Compressors fail and when I had a spare one, it wasn't the best and it didn't fulfill all the shop needs but it did good until I got the main one repaired. Oh those tanks last forever. If you have doubts, have the tanks NDI'd and pressure tested. Try to keep compressors inside and if outside build a containment. Keep them out of the rain if you can. Keep a good coat of paint on them, to. Just check the welds, remove any rust and they'll be fine. New compressors cost a mint. So if you got one for free or one for a pretty cheap price, consider your self lucky. These units can be repair. The main thing that goes wrong wit a compressor is blow by. That's of course when the compressor is losing it's compression capability. Time for a honing and ring change out if you have the experience with it. Also pop it valves go bad and release pressure when they're not suppose too. Pressure cut off valves should work to kick down certain compressor that are gas to an idle. Oh drain release cable valve. Buy a knew on and drain you tanks regularly. Down the road you could get an auto tank drainer. You could ad an oiler, too in order to keep air driven tools oiled. Keep air tanks drained is a necessity if they are coming off and going on all the time. You should think of air tool regulators the limit air pressure to tools that only require 90psi. Overspeeding air tools is not good, they wear out quicker. If the motors are too old, then you might want to get them rewound at a motor shop. I use to take our motors, starter and compressor motor to a place over in Dallas Texas. They did a great job. Oh, change the compressor oil, too. Change oil according to usage.
@rabbibacongrease88
@rabbibacongrease88 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see an oil pressure gauge on any of those pumps. Which ever one is pressure fed lubrication is the one I would keep. Some Quincy pumps have a spin on oil filter that screws directly onto the front of the pump. Most lower cost pumps are splash lubricated. My oil pressure on my Quincy runs about 20PSI. My pump is from 1947 and it still pumps great.
@Jethro.Maloku-le.Rey.Kalsitran
@Jethro.Maloku-le.Rey.Kalsitran 5 жыл бұрын
it works for me too : when I hear "free", I can run faster than a coyote... meep meep !
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Lol... I'm glad I'm not alone! Thanks for watching and commenting! I truly appreciate the support! Lot's more to come!
@johndebrular979
@johndebrular979 4 жыл бұрын
A compressor with Disc valves is much better than one with reed valves.
@ciscolm
@ciscolm 3 жыл бұрын
I have two set up in my garage incase one goes out i can switch since i paint cars and can't take a chance problems in the middle of a paint job.
@slackjaw703
@slackjaw703 5 жыл бұрын
As handy as you are, and starting anew, I’m surprised you don’t pour a small slab outside your shop, put the Curtis on it, and build a little sound insulated shack around it. Especially since you’ll be making videos and want to isolate the noise. It’s a little more work, but you’ll be infinitely happier.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I considered that, but I have other plans with the area outside the shop where I would have done that, plus if you've seen the compressor finished yet, it's BA to look at!
@slackjaw703
@slackjaw703 5 жыл бұрын
Salvage Workshop It is the best looking compressor I’ve ever seen by far, no doubt about it.i guess if it ever gets too loud you can always bud a plexiglass container around it to cut the noise. Lol
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
@@slackjaw703 Thank you John I appreciate it! I've already considered the plexiglass idea!
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 5 жыл бұрын
I would prefer the horizontal tank for my shop. 1. Larger tank 2. Single phase 3. A slight tilt and the drain would let the condensation drain better. 4. Less chance of tipping over with the grandkids possibly climbing on/around it. 5. I don't have a concrete floor to bolt it down to (see # 4). 6. I have had better luck with horizontal tanks. I am not what anybody would call tall, the lower head of the horizontal tank would be easier for me to work on.
@mikekrening7327
@mikekrening7327 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it but why don't you want to use the tank on the champion? Is it rusted out? Thanks
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Good question! For one there is a huge weld repair to one section of the tank on the other side, and another is when I removed the drain plug from the bottom I was able to shake out like a gallon of DRIED rust chips, no water at all, just the remnants of what the water did to the inside of the tank! It's not worth taking the chance since I have another tank that is in great shape I can use instead! Thanks for watching and commenting! Lots more to come!
@johnrogers2387
@johnrogers2387 5 жыл бұрын
The one with the last amount of crossion in the tank. Then hydro test it to make sure your rebuilding a timebomb.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Definetly DON'T want a time bomb! Totally agree on the tank!! The horizontal tank is almost perfect inside! You'll see the tank get hydro tested in the tank and electric motor restoration video coming up!
@hiredgun7186
@hiredgun7186 5 жыл бұрын
27 years in the compressor industry and the champion by far , if you need parts , look up independent components, you can get kits for all three. champion is tried , tested and true , have never found a curtis that didnt leak, they saylor beal is nothing special
@I8THEmagictoaster
@I8THEmagictoaster 4 жыл бұрын
The 705, as it looks to have the pressuer oiled desighn vs the splach lubricated one, valves are easer to acsess, and has 17.5 cfm at 170 psi i think.
@michaelward2869
@michaelward2869 3 жыл бұрын
I'm leaning towards any one of those units would be good. I use a lot of air with die grinder angel grinde disc sanders air hammer . So I reckon all of the above would be good in my work shop . I have a lot of air tools . The air tools are so Insentanious and responsive and with fairly good air pressure constantly run . The uniti ,I have is 3 phase plant in my shop it just right size for my shop.
@SirCas06
@SirCas06 Жыл бұрын
What is the Tank size for the Champion Vertical Compressor. It looks to be bigger than a 80 gallon. Thanks
@КошмарКошмар-й2б
@КошмарКошмар-й2б 5 жыл бұрын
Good job 👍
@rockydavies9555
@rockydavies9555 4 жыл бұрын
Curtis for sure uprights take less room for a small shop
@SPUDHOME
@SPUDHOME Жыл бұрын
Use pipe the same size as the fitting on the tank. Otherwise small fitting to large pipe will cause pressure to change as air is used compared to air is stored.
@steveadams4009
@steveadams4009 4 жыл бұрын
I happen to prefer horizontal compressors myself, but the Champion would not be bad if it is an old one the new Champions are pretty cheap.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
I went with the horizontal!
@paullavoie2300
@paullavoie2300 2 жыл бұрын
I have an old compressor to restore but cant find any information on it. Is there a place I can send a picture to that might help Identify it ?????
@johnversluis3084
@johnversluis3084 4 жыл бұрын
The Champion was made in Princeton IL USA made until they sold out to Garden-denver compressor co and the closed the planet in IL and move the receptacle devions some where else. the older ones are great pumps
@bryceclinton5782
@bryceclinton5782 5 жыл бұрын
I would choose Ethier the curtis or the salirvile because of power and noise. The cirtus it nice because it is vertical and would take up less space. But if you have a compressor that big you Ethier have a big shop or are going to store it in an external shed. The pump on the curtis also looks bigger.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Good thoughts! Thanks for watching and commenting! Lots more to come!
@johnerway7255
@johnerway7255 5 жыл бұрын
The saylorBeall 705 is made in the USA and still being made. You can get all the parts you need. I rebuild two of them. Last year. check it out.
@ustrade3362
@ustrade3362 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I am looking for a source for repair parts for my 1988 Puma 3 cylinder 2 stage pump. I need a cylinder. Any ideas. I have soured the internet and Puma was no help.
@rockydavies9555
@rockydavies9555 4 жыл бұрын
awesome content thankyou
@corydriver7634
@corydriver7634 5 жыл бұрын
Restore the Curtis, put it on the 120 gal tank, freshen up what you have left to sell and put towards a phase converter. Your welcome. 🤓
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Na... The Curtis is going up for sale as is! I'll defiantly use the 120 gallon tank, and its between the Saylor Beall and Champion pumps! Cant beat them once I finish the rebuilds on them! Ive got en even better idea for those 2, stay tuned!
@bcouri1
@bcouri1 5 жыл бұрын
champion r15
@billsutherland2128
@billsutherland2128 5 жыл бұрын
I'd transfer the pump and motor from the left upright to the right upright tank. Keep the middle horizontal tank for a dedicated task such as a hoist or using a high air CFPM tool. Get rid of the left tank altogether. I have two compressors in my shop, and I never have to wait for a compressor to catch up after my hoist is used. I always have air. No pun intended. Yuck, yuck.
@84Prerunner
@84Prerunner 5 жыл бұрын
A cheap china $120 VFD phase converter will run that 5hp 3ph compressor. Its a cheap solution with a ton of added benefits (mainly variable speed)
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Based on what I know, the problem with a vfd is that you typically lose anywhere between 20-60% of the motors hp when using it as a phase converter... some tools it might not be a big deal, but with a compressor, I'd prefer to avoid that. I definetly want a few vfds for tools like my bandsaw, 2x72 belt grinder, and 15" disc grinder!!
@84Prerunner
@84Prerunner 5 жыл бұрын
@@SalvageWorkshop You should not lose any power running off a VFD, that is an issue with static phase converters not VFDs. There are some rumors of slightly more heat, but unless you are running hours straight it wont be an issue. I actually like having the amp draw reading right on the face of the VFD to know when im approaching full load on the motor, it allowed me to run more RPM at lower pressure (higher CFM) but dial back the RPM as prssure increases to keep from overloading the motor.
@Shadeskast
@Shadeskast 5 жыл бұрын
2nd one. Michigan!,,,,
@ashforkdan
@ashforkdan 3 жыл бұрын
Cfms are what counts.
@josephburkhalter5105
@josephburkhalter5105 3 жыл бұрын
Salvage one of the single phase motor put it on the tank of your desire. JoeB
@walter111
@walter111 4 жыл бұрын
What are you gonna do with the other two?
@mikenewmanhayes2010
@mikenewmanhayes2010 5 жыл бұрын
the first one has the same head as our 1977 binks compressor the only thang wrong is tank rusted inside
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Ya that is a Champion R15, and it's an amazing compressor pump!! My tank for that one it also completely rusted out! I plan to restore that pump on the channel at some point, I have an awesome Idea for it!
@mikenewmanhayes2010
@mikenewmanhayes2010 5 жыл бұрын
@@SalvageWorkshop my father got it new in 76 (he DIED in 77), so far drive motor rebuilt 2 x
@lsrengines
@lsrengines 4 жыл бұрын
Badd air compressor Tank's make good smokers
@jesusa.espino6408
@jesusa.espino6408 5 жыл бұрын
Curtis have one USA there every were .
@thewillofme
@thewillofme 5 жыл бұрын
The one that almost fell.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Lol... Ya that's the plan!
@StreetMachine18
@StreetMachine18 5 жыл бұрын
The Curtis looks too nice to fix up, since you can't use three phase don't bother with it. For me I would decide based on square foot-footprint. So the horizontal tank looks kool but might take up more room. So the vertical tank would be my go to.
@fasousa4798
@fasousa4798 5 жыл бұрын
The horizontal one please
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
You got it!
@Scruffy001
@Scruffy001 5 жыл бұрын
Search on youtube rotary converter. it shows how to use a 3 phase motor to convert 1 phase into 3. it may be your cheapest way to do it and simplest
@tydkel
@tydkel 5 жыл бұрын
hydro test them , i had 80gal air tank ,it looked great then i hydro tested it to 250psi for 1/2 hour, didn't get 10 mintis on test ,blow out on the bottom with two rust holes
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! You will see that in the tank restoration video! I don't want that to happen!
@19672701
@19672701 5 жыл бұрын
I would use the horizontal tank,and what ever compressor was multi stage.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
They are ALL multistage, but the horizontal one is the one I chose!
@19672701
@19672701 5 жыл бұрын
@@SalvageWorkshop yea, I should have watched the other videos first,lol,I'm a subscriber now! Great channel.
@dougrobison1156
@dougrobison1156 5 жыл бұрын
champion
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I will definitely be restoring that one in the future!
@nigman2023
@nigman2023 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@roberticoellibre4736
@roberticoellibre4736 4 жыл бұрын
I have one but idk anything about it and i need it to fix
@simonh5110
@simonh5110 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever came of the champion??
@davewood406
@davewood406 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the remainder of the decision will hinge on the the internal condition of the pumps and motors... Maybe work the videos that way, tear down and evaluation then restoration of the more viable pump/motor. You probably want to do a sound blocking enclosure from the get go, it will be harder to do after you have set the compressor in place and plumbed/wired it. Get an automatic drain valve.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I will break a couple of the pumps down most of the way in the next video and we'll see what they look like! I initially wanted to build a sound proof container, but decided not to because that will also make the area the compressors located in heat up faster causing additional wear and tear that I don't want! I would like to build the compressor it's own shed out back, but getting the compressor there at the moment will be difficult, so it't going to live in the shop! An automatic drain is a great idea, and I may do that depending on the cost!
@davewood406
@davewood406 5 жыл бұрын
Depending on the location, you can probably knock down a good portion of the noise with just a single insulated wall and some sort of sound absorbing material behind to absorb the reflected sound. Simple like drop ceiling tiles.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Not a bad thought... I am also installing Silencers on the compressors intake so that they will run a bit quieter as well!
@300DBenz
@300DBenz 5 жыл бұрын
Dave Wood I know the answer to the question of which is quieter (as I have 2 of those compressors at work). It’s the Saylor-Beall.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
@@davewood406 that's not a bad thought, but I have a really cool idea for the paint job, and I want people to be able to see it! Stay tuned, and I think you'll get it!
@JoeyLovesTrains
@JoeyLovesTrains 5 жыл бұрын
That pressure washing! God damn!
@jgrow15068
@jgrow15068 5 жыл бұрын
Sailor Beal 705
@martehoudesheldt5885
@martehoudesheldt5885 5 жыл бұрын
any or all would be just fine. I would keep all 3 but only hook up 2. have them come on in a staged fashion. that is one shuts off at 150 and the other shuts off at 90. so that when you use a little air only 1 runs but when you use a lot of air they both work. use the third as a holding tank and spare unit. as for 3 phase power.... go to Automation Direct .com and buy a VFD (variable frequency drive) that will convert from single phase to 3 phase. I have 2 of them and use them on different equipment. good luck
@georgelasala6588
@georgelasala6588 3 жыл бұрын
the one thats built in the usa that one
@sethbracken
@sethbracken 5 жыл бұрын
Repair the oldest and crustiest first.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yes.. to a degree, the integrity of the tank is important! We don't want it to go boom!
@sethbracken
@sethbracken 5 жыл бұрын
Salvage Workshop - of course, your safety comes first. This is KZbin in modern America, not the Roman coliseum! The crust factor of the pumping portions look suitable on the first two (counting left to right). Now that I’ve considered it some more, I think the second one, with the horizontal tank would be most interesting. It’s not as crusty as the first, but it looks like you’ll need to figure out how to make a tool to get access.
@billbaranko8907
@billbaranko8907 5 жыл бұрын
all things equal smallest footprint
@colonialroofingofnorthcaro441
@colonialroofingofnorthcaro441 2 жыл бұрын
Curtis
@oyesimon8112
@oyesimon8112 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why you can't talk while you do the video?
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
No, not at all! I do know how to talk... well kinda!! I just like to let the work speak for itself! Do you think you would enjoy some commentary during one of the restorations as the work is being done?
@jt9498
@jt9498 5 жыл бұрын
@@SalvageWorkshop ...much better to just show the work being done. After all...it's a video, not radio! :) We can SEE what you're doing without a lot of unnecessary commentary. :) By the way....good choice picking the S-B compressor! It's the best one there, IMHO. :) Can't wait to see the restoration video!
@kcmopc
@kcmopc 2 жыл бұрын
run all three 15hp and many gallons of tank too much is not enough!
@SwanseaTitanFan
@SwanseaTitanFan 4 жыл бұрын
Why no commentary?
@craigr306
@craigr306 5 жыл бұрын
Wow he talks
@thecynic807
@thecynic807 5 жыл бұрын
Fix them all sell them and get a new one
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
NO WAY! I am definitely selling one of them, but you can't buy a better pump an all cast iron Saylor-Beall! The older champion pumps are right up there as well!! New is definitely NOT always better in my opinion!
@wayngoodman5889
@wayngoodman5889 5 жыл бұрын
NNOOOO!!!! Either the Champion or Saylor-Beall of that vintage are better choices than ANYTHING being sold new today (well, possibly excepting a rotary screw...)
@ankles632
@ankles632 5 жыл бұрын
With the horizontal 1, get rid of the motor and compressor on top. Put a set of legs on it then cut the tank in half longways. Hinge it at the back and put some grates inside and you have 1 hell of a BBQ.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I've got other tanks for that!
@davidturney9813
@davidturney9813 5 жыл бұрын
Curtis E 57
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Are you located in the midwest?
@kaleb1994
@kaleb1994 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I recently bought a champion compressor just like yours. I’m looking for more info on it. Can you message me or give me a contact email?
@jamesbond9873
@jamesbond9873 5 жыл бұрын
Sell them for parts and get a old Devilbiss compressor with a cast iron pump. They run slow and last forever. Any compressor that runs fast will fail.
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Old devilbliss compressors are well made, but don't hold a candle to a champion or Saylor-Beall. The Saylor-beall is also an all cast iron pump! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ashforkdan
@ashforkdan 3 жыл бұрын
Leave it outside.
@ВладимирПопов-о5и
@ВладимирПопов-о5и 5 жыл бұрын
БЛА.БЛА.БЛА. РУКАЖОП....
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
БЛА БЛА БЛА. Одмах назад!
@oyesimon8112
@oyesimon8112 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you ask people to support you on patreon when your the one who's making the video8,KZbin was made for entertainment and not make money the easy way and KZbin isn't an employer get a real job
@SalvageWorkshop
@SalvageWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
LOL! did that feel good!
@shortfuse43
@shortfuse43 5 жыл бұрын
@@SalvageWorkshop I think I felt it too!!!!!! Wahoo! LOL x2
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