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[@NanoProdigy]

I see the main problem here was that people who did see the leaks were expecting that when the game dropped. That’s fair, I never thought about that

[@oniii8284]

I really really like the old animations and the effects (like the effect from parrying), that was the biggest letdown imo

[@camorucamoru4664]

How tf did you not think of that...?

[@wixxietixie4868]

@Armani Daley I was so hyped for that too and I have no clue why

[@hungryconfidence1562]

Tru 📠

[@juhp9068]

I think they should add back spell creation, old islands, old animations, and old graphics everything now just looks too fancy

[@imadegenerate9867]

I still remember in one of the old deepwoken videos where you have to say your name first in order for other players to see your name, it's such a small thing but it's also really amazing. Kind of disappointed I wasn't able to see that feature in game.

[@gogodowser]

exploiters

[@justjohn1109]

Yea and the family feature would have been pretty cool to see added ngl

[@Calviinnn]

thats because of exploiters

[@s3bastian289]

@@justjohn1109 it’s still in the game you can have cousins brothers and even a twin

[@imadegenerate9867]

@@gogodowser They could still reveal the name if they kill them

[@pearlz9773]

Even though the combat and such might've been worse, I was dissapointed in the lack of islands and exploration that I was hyped for from leaks, I just hope they add more places like instead of Etrean territory Canor or Felinor territory.

[@heatedrindo]

Your just saying this due to exploring everything, i agree they should add more islands

[@yuuji3795]

@@heatedrindo it would be really cool if we had island events that literally was global, and maybe islands that appear outta nowhere and have hella loot

[@sun4hire]

I mean the game hasnt gotten a major content release and they just announced that they are working on a large content update soon

[@cuzimnubwae7337]

@@yuuji3795 It would make things more laggy, but global event sounds like a good idea

[@renownedhonor]

There's going to be void sea

[@kenjisake]

Tbh, from the sneaks the game looked a lot better as in the old animations and map. When the game released for public it felt a whole lot different from what I expected (map).

[@HellishVirality]

yeah i liked the roll cancel m1 animations and some of the anims where you hold your sword like a dagger and swing it up, it was cool and gave combat this flow that it just doesnt have anymore.

[@ZERO_K_O_M]

facts

[@uggmo2765]

@@HellishVirality you can still do that with spine cutter

[@AsunaS4O]

ye it just feel like we were given a much much less updated version of the game

[@-_World_-]

Old combat looks so smooth, nobody breaks their fingers by spamming one button on their keyboard, and they actually get close and use their weapons, I really with I could have experienced that

[@comradexdface]

Agreed, with this combat, people are more stuck to the same location so it's an actual duel rather than it being a game of tag. I feel like if they returned the concept of the old combat into Deepwoken, with the changes and nerfs they have currently, it would be really fun.

[@hvhgods9118]

Fakewoken

[@warsin8641]

I really like the old combat 😪

[@aclutchboy5389]

@@warsin8641 U only saw it and never experienced it u don't know if u like it or not so no u don't like the old combat

[@aclutchboy5389]

@Quade Mcphee he said he liked the old combat when he never even felt with it felt like to experience it i'm pretty sure most people would of hated the old combat cuz people say trash things about everything

[@sumi3909]

I absolutely love how old deepwoken seems, the combat may be more unbalanced, but it looks more fun. The spell feint instant cast looks fun, the island missions look fun, the old animations are fluid and the old mantras like clap look fun, especially the mechanic where you say the name of the mantra out loud. I wish they make like an old deepwoken game to just mess around in or someone makes a copy/remake of this so people can experience this.

[@Mariama_Kane]

Key word “looks” and the stranger system would make finding exploiters really hard.

[@heatedrindo]

Okay, ill admit i want island missions back

[@heatedrindo]

and fire clap, and the fire ball..

[@babaloons4887]

Yeah the old combat would be very fun!!! I believe deepwoken would have 20k players rn if they kept mantras doing 80% of ur hp

[@mool487]

​@@babaloons4887i dont get this argument... its not like they cant just nerf the damage...

[@dorshaldoes5055]

Ngl the spells looked a lot more cooler and diverse than it is rn and a bit straight forward(bro why the fuck isn’t a fire ball IN THE GAME????) Also the environment feels more fuller in the older versions like that forest actually looks like a forest lol (also the spells shoutouts got removed) Ngl if they thought balancing was hard litterally just make a minimum dmg and maximum dmg this way nothing will do over 100+ or whatever same for stun There should be a range for highs and lows

[@delilah9252]

Probably didnt want another Snap Ignis into the game

[@TearedOne]

@@georgy2596 he probably meant why we couldn't use them

[@chickleet4115]

being hyped for deepwoken and seeing leaks > deepwoken gameplay

[@Gae-bre-uhl]

I agree to be honest

[@beannibba]

Me and my friends were so hyped for deepwoken and have been waiting months, seeing all the leaks got us so excited. We were bored a week after release there is no content and the map is so small

[@нить]

@@beannibba nice one, i've been waiting for 2 years just for this disappointment

[@mrfunny7309]

I'm fine with combat as it is rn, they just need to actually balance because rn it's VERY mantra based, some mantras are just busted like the new shadow move. The thing I really have a problem with is content, there is barely any content and even with he upcoming content update it doesn't look like much, it's a singular dungeon which would be fun for maybe a few days.

[@Jjustjacob]

It wasn't really the combat people were saying that was better about old deepwoken, it was the exploration and map size Deepwoken was looking to be a massive game in size, much larger than rogue but now it seems like a much smaller product of what it once was The current deepwoken isn't bad or anything, but if we had current deepwoken mechanics with old deepwoken exploration and map size it would have been so much more crazy, it was looking like it was going to be on some elden ring shit honestly

[@Jjustjacob]

honestly if there were mobs that moved like dark souls bosses and there were just a lot more of a variety of them, this game would be fucking amazing cant wait for what the future updates might hold, and if we'll get a content update the size of khei sometime in the future

[@veerchowdhary6949]

Ngl I thought there was gonna be a full 20 - 30 or so islands instead of the 7 we have now(excluding depths) with creatures that would be different on each island. I remeber being so hyped now the games pve is brainless was expecting pve to be different not same mobs used over and over lol. I also agree with what u sayin.

[@Ohmoi]

Bro people have to be realistic, the game had to cut allot of islands because of performance issues. In the end its a roblox game

[@HellishVirality]

nah i liked the roll cancel m1 animations and the 2nd m1 animation for sword along with the old particles, the current particles dont look realistic where these ones look like actual sowrds clashing and making sparks

[@HellishVirality]

@@Ohmoi honestly just get a better pc or dont play i liked the old islands, AND THEY REMOVED LIKE 3 ISLANDS FOR WHAT? PERFORMANCE? DAWG I GOT A RTX 3080 AND I STILL GET 300 PING IN MY HOME STATE

[@Vex331]

The move calling seemed rlly cool, I would love for people to see how silly my moves sound. The name thing was also rlly cool, I feel they should add it back and develope a short of AA gun that reveals their name.

[@Archeonio]

the map size rn is so underwhelming compared to expectations, also i kinda like the old animations, they feel fluid in some way, also Nano what is that thing abovr the notes?

[@marshubbler360]

pretty sure it’s stat points?

[@leo-zx6xl]

@@marshubbler360 ITS INSIGHT!

[@Tsumoe_]

That was called knowledge back then which is still in game now just invisible

[@Ibbawas]

The map is very big it is the lack of content in the island mostly because of ranked and how some islands really just come down to being just kinda a place to level or a place you will go to sometimes for a quest. Unlike etris, etria and monkey paw there is something you need to do there them being boss spawns leveling quest and a spawn location. If they make it to where ranked is less valuable and they do something like you capture islands and when you have it conquered you get a reward that would give islands more attention and make the overworld hectic and fun.

[@oniii8284]

@@Tsumoe_ what did it do

[@flappyflap2693]

the old deepwoken was more beautiful gameplay wise, the massive maps and the missions being leaked to the public was the most hype part about it, but then the game dropped and i was here questioning where the massive maps were and more so it kinda disappointed me i won't even lie

[@babaloons4887]

The only mission leaked was fort merit, idk what massive map ur talking about could u give the video showing this massive map?

[@raskult]

@@babaloons4887 delivery quest from the direct huge change :/ i was mislead tbh release deepwoken isn’t what i thought it would be

[@babaloons4887]

@@raskult most people expected too much from deepwoken release and now are dissapointed, i believe the game will get way better with the new content update and i hope guild bases will be fun

[@raskult]

@@babaloons4887 bro shut up about expected too much they lied to us. The lore is 5 words long they lied objectively speaking they lied so it’s not about expectations anymore they completely lied about the game.

[@flamescope9554]

@@raskult Games change alot in development I hope you know that and the last time I heard them say the lore was gonna be a huge thing was like 3 years ago when they first showed the base combat

[@aikiiru]

Idk, but to me old deepwoken combat looked way more enjoyable than it is now. Old combat seems to be more hand-to-hand oriented whereas current deepwoken is just a no brainer mantra spams (gale lunge, ice lance, shadow gun, ice eruption, etc...) into wayward and m1s. if they missed they will rinse and repeat

[@NanoProdigy]

I think most of it was because the people I was fighting weren’t cornballs. We liked M1ing. You had the option sit back and spam mantras in old Deepwoken and it was harder to fight against imo

[@aikiiru]

@@NanoProdigy ​ Fair enough I guess though _I still think_ the issue with deepwoken PVP right now is that spamming mantras has become way too conventional than how it's made to be. What I mean is that, there's arguably little to no punishment you get from mashing your keyboard on one button after another. Ether shouldn't generally be a problem since you literally got all the talents/cards for it. Not to mention the 300% ether regen you can get from wearing an armor too. just my opinion though but I personally think that ether regen from all sources should be lowered and to compensate for it, mantras should cost slightly less ether. This can massively change the way player manage with their mantras/ether usage in a good way. To set an example, a player will most likely attempt to not waste their ether by just throwing out mantras randomly and if they do, they will *actually* run out of ether and are forced to fight you hand-to-hand

[@NanoProdigy]

@@aikiiru yeah ether regen and the talents relating to ether are pretty nutty

[@cynt7783]

@@aikiiru i second this

[@BayHarborButcher2]

@@aikiiru lol see you made a statement based on 1 vid of gameplay then nano prodigy proves you wrong. It just goes to show how nobody in the comment section knows nothing and is just diçk riding and saying it looks better

[@suettamnrebog1037]

I liked the stranger concept, I was surprised when it wasn't put in the paid access.

[@Calviinnn]

exploiters be ruining eveything

[@toniarcilla6591]

Old Deepwoken had interesting concepts with Mantras, which I liked, using keys to cast a Mantra that it’s a bit overpowered seems fair at this point by the amount of pressure you could’ve obtaining for trying to cast a REALLY GOOD spell, overall the pvp when it comes to combat rather than magic, I think it’s fine as it is nowadays. I think what people mean about old Deepwoken was better is about the exploration and the bigger it was and more understanding with Lore, which right now we don’t have so much about Lore rather what the devs have explained to us and theories from people.

[@gokangames5331]

Using keys to cast was really bad because of macros and took the entire point of using spells on fights because it was annoying also the spell casting in the clips rn were you had to click when you heard the sound and it would cast a spell way faster

[@Twelvebeans]

4:10 so that's why you can put a tornado spark on fireblade. Kinda wish it still did something like this with tornado spark, maybe a quick spin like aba hiei's blender

[@erd.n]

Imagine if they had "the old luminant" would be cool to see

[@jammoose.m363]

ngl I just wish that the old 1 hand m1ing was still in the game because it looks way cleaner than the 1 we have

[@reneguerra939]

Press Y to switch your stance, it’s still in the game

[@babaloons4887]

@@reneguerra939 i think he means old m1

[@jammoose.m363]

@@reneguerra939 im talking about hwo they swinged

[@oniii8284]

Why couldnt this be the deepwoken im playing rn, made 2 level 60s this week and had like 10 minutes of actual enjoyment grinding, rest was me just thinking it would be fun to be high level

[@LL-rc2ol]

I cant beat trials help

[@xayhunter8023]

Bro samee

[@xayhunter8023]

After my first bell which was crazy slots I lost all enjoyment cause the one thing I really wanted in deepwoken was a bell and I had been grinding for a while on my lvl 60 slot

[@jeeppers9344]

Something about old deepwoken just makes it looks fun idkk how to explain it

[@DahPenguin]

old deepwoken was definitely way better in certain aspects especially the mantras some of them would be nice to use

[@8bitmike361]

Honestly I wish deepwoken went for the lore game route, if you know what I mean, I wish it had this sad but harmless world with monster and fun character moments, honestly I wish that missions where more replay able, but how the game turned out was just fine but not really what I wanted. But the game still looks great. Hopefully they will add more mystical land scapes.

[@heatedrindo]

Yeah.

[@zojuiced]

The only thing I'm disappointed with is the old spells, they looked a lot better imo and more simple

[@milangpo8615]

old attack animation looks so nice

[@mrsly6986]

I'm ngl I just want a version of deepwoken with the old islands the exploration isn't all it was hyped up to be

[@stem.5000]

I miss release, it was so fun and exhilarating. Every guild's VC was full to the brim and everyone shared their excitement, I remember me and my 2 guild members stumbled onto the Interstitial Lighthouse and saw a Brainsucker(Bat) and instantly shit ourselves.. we were all scared shitless and screaming, laughing and trolling eachother (We thought it was an endgame mob) :)

[@kaida_mtd]

The things that I saw and liked about old deepwoken was the particles looked more satisfying and there were more moves. I get the first one is for optimization, but the moves I don't get

[@BopperDuppet]

ngl old deepwoken looks a lot more unique visually, i wish they kept that

[@NanoProdigy]

Yeah I honestly don’t know what changed but old Deepwoken does look clean visually

[@нить]

@@NanoProdigy what changed is that they followed the every 2021/2022 roblox anime game "crazy 1000 particles vfx" style

[@woomyyy]

i think it would be cool if they made a seperate place that was just old deepwoken, i think it would be neat to see a little insight into what the old game was like while showing why the new game is better

[@sumi3909]

Hell yes

[@soikariX]

Just seeing the little heists and new islands was what hyped me most ngl

[@crispisan3570]

Honestly I just want those mantras to be added even if nerfed, the clapping par mantra looks sick

[@Jamesicy1]

imo deepwoken combat was just over complicated the more it got updated and just less fun while oldwoken combat looks more simple and better even without mantras which just got gutted excitement and expectations wise as now you just see everyone using the same spells without chanting and stuff

[@uncleruckus6990]

We need a spell update of like 20 + spells for all mantras and a 2 and 3 star for mantraless

[@markofaggression]

it feels like old combat emphesized more on m1s rather than spell spam

[@NanoProdigy]

It did that’s something I liked about the old combat but at the same time it’s because there was no movestacking back then and people didn’t like when movestacking got removed so 🤷

[@rise7056]

its a choice

[@et3252]

Def did

[@krambitlore3936]

I remember me and my friends dying to bandits figuring out how to parry and scream when shaco was chasing us good memories ;c

[@ibrahimbinmohdjarofidz998]

we feel like "old things" are better because we probably didn't experience it.

[@Raikouzu]

I love the fact that he says "Gripping Par!" when he uses flame grab

[@extriny4686]

What’s cool about this is where luck used to be there is a different symbol called knowledge which was removed and reintroduced 9 MONTHS LATER

[@AMC_Lucrono]

honestly even after seeing this I still would choose this deepwoken it looks more fun

[@insertpng6289]

I went back to one of the old deepwoken videos to remember why I was disappointed, old parry and block effects are leagues better than the ones now

[@swooshyssh]

I really liked the old deepwoken effects they just looked more matching the theme of the game

[@veerchowdhary6949]

They should have kept islands we only have like 7 I also liked how they first wanted spells to function.

[@jobm562]

Will there be more skills for each elemental mantra? I feel like old deepwoken had a lot of elemental mantra skills/moves but when deepwoken released they limited it and held it back to maybe rework it and give it to specific elements only

[@Nosf0078]

There is literlly ALL skills from old deepwoken...

[@Yout-f7m]

@@Nosf0078 the fire circle throw is gone, fire blade is different and the old one belongs to shadow, the clap mantra was completely scrapped, the fireball move was completely scrapped and only authority npcs and necromancer's mudskippers can use it

[@Nosf0078]

@@Yout-f7m i dint said ALL skills for players tho,and even with rework they are here

[@disco1528]

old deepwoken had more mantras but they were scrapped in the final game either due to being buggy or overpowered. gotta take note of balancing

[@kamilion1]

I think that one of the main problems with deepwoken as it is now is the talents having been made for the old combat changing the parry input might seem like a small change but it's a pretty big one, because it incentivizes parrying way more and nobody starts of blocking talents like air pressure were made with the old combat in mind, and they don't work that well anymore

[@ras9515]

personally, I think that the devs should work on a deepwoken copy that showcases an old deepwoken with the old spells and map but with new deepwoken features.

[@Gdrez]

I remember seeing a old clip of this game and just realized this game took 2 years to be made just to get ganked like in rogue

[@uncleruckus6990]

Yes but now you can actually fight back and it's hard to boost ngl I feel like most of the major systems are made to be the opposite of rogue

[@babaloons4887]

And like what karrizen said its 10 times easier to 1v10, if u get a healthpack from knocking someone ur most likely going to win the fight if you play right, and having flamecharm or reaper will make it way more easy.

[@amenathus7767]

The old one felt a lot more immersive

[@xaviervalentin8658]

The parry animation looks cooler before then now

[@IAmDocTho]

I hope they add some of this stuff back for layer 2 like the spin m1 anim halo throw, claps, fire blade variation, and the stomach stab flourish(prolly wont since flourishing dont exist)

[@pxugg6329]

i still loved the old deepwoken, it looked much much better. no matter what u can say about it, all they needed to do was just fix the bugs you mentioned, and boom its ltierally 10x better than the current deepwoken.

[@blindedjinx5543]

The Blue lightning looks so much sexier than the current yellow one

[@litverse3056]

i really like the roll cancel fights it looks fight but i also like the m1 that comes up from the ground it also looks like posture was lowered since then

[@onlyokami6430]

tbh I really wanted the old animations and movement to implemented. that was what I wanted cuz the movement and m1s looked like they were a lot faster pace and harder to predict. just looked a lot more skill based imo.

[@NanoProdigy]

Harder to predict? Making things reactable is where the true skill gap is imo

[@iparadigm]

3:44 bro all those campfires, they tryna summon ferryman

[@NanoProdigy]

WE DIDNT WANT THE MUDSKIPPERS TO COME OUT

[@domi7344]

@@NanoProdigy does it still works rn? Or now the mudskippers event is reworked.

[@TheBusGuide]

I want the mantra name shouting and old Etrea island back.

[@Yout-f7m]

The combat in old deepwoken was jankier and I am glad that the "clap" mantra was removed, it would be really busted and complex to parry. I am upset that they removed most of the islands from testing like those giant wild islands that look like one big maze, the small crabbo enemy in depths, and the old vigils/temple approach looked very cool and reminded me of oresfall.

[@oniii8284]

It would be super simple to parry

[@cgborca5361]

how exactly would it be complex to parry... + looks really easy to roll out of

[@gokangames5331]

Vigils Temple approach was in the same island as old etris

[@TulUnkno]

Spine cutter look like it was a huge meta back then

[@HellishVirality]

it still kinda is, i mean it goes crazy

[@domi7344]

its still meta tho, but reqs changer for that talent and not many of players know how to get it. 20 str 20 agility and you get the rare talent, spine cutter.

[@s3bastian289]

I miss the fencing school of Etrea that was one place I really wanted to see because of all the old deepwoken videos like faceless man ruin and your combat video.

[@juhp9068]

bring back the old animations (I like the simplicity of it), and keep the current combat, and I think that deepwoken would be a lot better

[@xasaih8524]

Week one deepwoken peak

[@Calviinnn]

you didnt even play it bruh

[@cynt7783]

ngl old deepwoken was indeed more visual appealing compared to now

[@HellishVirality]

just realized your "flameo parman" move had the shadow blade anim into rising flame, pretty cool.

[@HellishVirality]

NOT TO MENTION theres like 5-6 mantras used in this vid that arent in the main game, sad to see tbh they all looked cool.

[@babaloons4887]

@@HellishVirality prob removed for a good reason

[@zackcool9969]

So this is why hes good at pvp now. Hes played through generations of dw pvp even if it was diffrent

[@SN0ZA]

I wish it made you yell the name of the spell still, should add it back.

[@Entyce-dg2hw]

what happened to the mantra name callouts in chat?

[@TheFakePlayerGame]

F

[@lumonetic1124]

Removed because "It felt too anime"

[@TheFakePlayerGame]

@@lumonetic1124 :(

[@lumonetic1124]

@@TheFakePlayerGame agreed :/

[@shadowjgaming6502]

@@lumonetic1124 Yeah and adding Lightning Cloak from Naruto isn't anime...

[@catsike1457]

NICEEE, I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

[@lookis1940]

Thunder was blue back then and i thought it was so cool when i watched infernasu's video back then, now its yellow. I think everyone would like a reskin like fire with its azure flames. Pls dont say you would like purple lightning, we all know by now its not something that we can get. And althought that old casting system, like how you cast gracefull flames or wisp, was kinda boring and would probably get harder the more times it had modifiers, it would still prevent people from using moves like thunderkick to run like CRAZY, fr there is someone who has a thunderkick that goes so far that people where thinking he was exploiting.

[@Hitchiez]

All nanos moves having par in it makes me chuckle

[@sakken4183]

The cargo system / old clips of giant boats for example iron clad ones where it would have giant spaces etc it would've been sick

[@Niinii.]

it's been 3 years since I watched Nanoprodigy

[@Jesusloves_ya]

Old deepwoken look so fun

[@coveiro3864]

Stop trying to be different 💀Old deepwoken was ass

[@poweringstupidity9042]

@@coveiro3864 he aint different, its just true

[@demise9900]

@@poweringstupidity9042 Name 3 actually good parts that were true.

[@mrsly6986]

@@demise9900 it just looks fun doesn't mean it's better thats what people mean

[@poweringstupidity9042]

@@demise9900 🦍

[@Ibbawas]

The map is very big it is the lack of content on the islands that makes it seem small. Mostly because of ranked and how some islands really just come down to being just kinda a place to level or a place you will go to sometimes for a quest. Unlike etris, etria and monkey paw there is something you need to do there. Boss spawns leveling, quest and a spawn location. If they make it to where ranked is less valuable and they do something like you capture islands and when you have it conquered you get a reward that would give islands more attention and make the overworld hectic and fun. Also the talent that makes you drop less items should be removed or at least when you die to players as when you die it will be more dangerous and more rewarding for the victor. Also something that they can do is make the light house spot someone abs when they get spotted it tell them that they are revealed, this just makes it easier to fight people and if the player doesn’t want to fight then they just leave idk 🤷‍♂️ just suggesting stuff.

[@daddysakurai8883]

The general public doesn’t like how deepwoken wasn’t like the sneaks. The game feels entirely different almost like a deepwoken sequel. I’d prefer to play the old game as I have already quit current deepwoken

[@incidental1547]

dude nobody was talking about the old combat, almost every single person is dissapointed in deepwokens lack of exploration and adventures and also little details like monster hunting guilds not being in the game... (oh and also, the old combat looks actually skill based, not just spamming wind gun and other mantras...)

[@babaloons4887]

The divers????

[@incidental1547]

@@babaloons4887 no, what i meant was we were promised actual monster hunter, assasin and pirate guilds, to whom you could turn in quests and get decent/good rewards and progress with them...

[@babaloons4887]

@@incidental1547 can you show me when they said stuff like that? I pretty much watched every direct or livestream and never heard of that

[@incidental1547]

@@babaloons4887 there was a whole google doc of it, if you have discord ill gladly search it up and message you the pictures/videos of it

[@babaloons4887]

@@incidental1547 is it on ragoozer twitter or sum

[@warsin8641]

Looks like Back then posture actually made sense

[@gaven6977]

So back in the day you didn't even have to check a loot bag that's pretty neat

[@kaipervan]

I liked the old m1 animation alot, idk.

[@kaipervan]

the old map was cool too, but in 500+ years the map is sure to change.

[@coocato]

When people say old deepwoken was better, they aren't only talking about combat. And to be honest, old combat still looks better. You literally only said "well you didn't want old combat in deepwoken." How the hell does this tell us anything about how it actually feels like? We're basing it off of the clips because we don't know what it did feel like, and the clips made old combat look a lot more M1 and skill based. Outside of combat, deepwoken got stale after a week after release because there was nothing to do other than gank and farm. The new content is cool but it gets chewed through in a day or two. What we know of deepwoken's old mantra-crafting system looked a lot more difficult, and made progressing more interesting. Progressing in deepwoken right now is literally just bandit beating. The patterns can be learnt in a few days. Exploration was hyped up as a huge part of deepwoken, however during release all of the islands were discovered on day 1. There wasn't anything to find, and even bells were discovered shortly after release. And also, why the hell was so much content cut? Most people assume it was for performance issues, however these old islands still looked insanely good. Are these islands just gone? Do we get them in a new luminant? "Exploring" in deepwoken isn't difficult. Unless you're in a dinghy, lionfish can be killed quickly and theyre infrequent. tl;dr, old deepwoken was more mysterious, more interesting and would've fulfilled on the promises the dev made

[@NanoProdigy]

Combat only seemed more M1 base because the people I played against (including myself) weren’t cornballs. Zoning was way more powerful in old Deepwoken

[@coocato]

@@NanoProdigy so basically, if they nerfed overrusing mantras in old combat it would still be better. a slight change. that still doesnt answer any of the other stuff i said anyways

[@rover4436]

@@NanoProdigy what about exploration I don’t care about combat

[@daivioi]

Those old spell call outs feel so much like Arcane Adventures, can't wait for AO ngl, but deepwoken is amazing just because it feels just like AA. Both are amazing games, thanks for the video, Nano!

[@forsakenfish]

Arcane Odyssey for the win

[@flamescope9554]

@@forsakenfish you should probably experience the game before saying its better than anything

[@blackuman2085]

Didn’t they have it to where you could make your own spells, why did they remove that???

[@NanoProdigy]

Because it was tedious. Picking from a card is way better. You couldn’t really make your “own spells.” Take heavenly wind for example. In the old game, you would have to find something called “heaven core” and fuse it with a galestone to make heavenly wind. That’s all it was

[@blackuman2085]

@@NanoProdigy Now that I have your explanation that actually makes sense as to why they removed it, sounds annoying to deal with

[@009-m3i]

that old hit particle looks clean as hell

[@elijahdrotts1025]

They need to bring back the F+M1 to parry. I don’t know why they removed that. Also the feinting into instant casting was so clean and made people use their heads

[@NanoProdigy]

No.

[@elijahdrotts1025]

@@NanoProdigy do u know why they removed f+m1 to parry

[@NanoProdigy]

@@elijahdrotts1025 there are too many moves that are too fast to parry if it was made to be F+click

[@elijahdrotts1025]

@@survrin that’s what I’m saying. It’s really not that hard to add m1+f to parry. U can do it just as instantly as pressing f. The only difference is u can choose to block vs parrying every attack

[@gracevaldoxan]

That palm slap mantra has to be 3 star for flamecharm

[@jah7888]

2 years of devving and testing for what💀💀💀

[@TheFinestJhe]

They should add that flame clap back that looks awesome and the lightning looks so much cooler when it’s blue

[@KostayP]

Where is mantra "Potato" from deepwoken direct?

[@NanoProdigy]

Red sharko has it now

[@hanare7540]

Old Deepwoken has it's ups and downs, but let's talk about why every one of your moves Nano ends in Par...

[@nulsoph]

Man, blue thundercall looked nice.

[@5xsu]

10:27 bruh i remember that from like a year ago

[@NanoProdigy]

LOL

[@tea9655]

Bruh I wish old deepwoken was on release instead of new one

[@ruth6mz603]

even some new skills in old deepwoken got delete

[@Akkermit]

im so cheesed nowadays , i die to perma freshies simply because of bad fps man

[@gentlejack64]

People were expecting what they saw in the leaks. Im glad i did the same thing my friend did by knowing nothing of the game and avoiding leaks and stuff.

[@babaloons4887]

And because of that people expected the game to have 40 islands 200 different monsters 100 mantras and a bunch of shit that would not be possible on the shitty roblox engine

[@gentlejack64]

@@babaloons4887 lmao damn

[@JunsAnimations]

The combat seem more skilled, somehow in the correct deepwoken, people just spam mantra and run away rah

[@babaloons4887]

Its just that the people nano is fightning likes to m1 he already said that people could run and spam mantras in the old game

[@erd.n]

Vibe wise and exploration wise is probably way better but gameplay wise like pvp and balancing is probably worse than current

[@Strikishi]

Watching old Deepwoken reminds me of watching NO2 videos... v_v

[@nobled.miracle6421]

My favorite move is gripping par

[@gokangames5331]

I'd bring back old deepwoken islands and map the learn talent system and maybe spells especially spell modification cuz rn we have NONE for spells. Maybe add that map as a luminant cause game has no exploration and that was one of the things I was most hyped for deepwoken.

[@Overcrosst]

I wish they kept the feature of the characters saying the spell names, cus when i use lightning cloak it would just say BANKAI cus I renamed it to that lol