OLD GODS Solar ORIGIN & Elune's Crystal STARS | Shadows of An'she

[@_xaxxas]

Thank you for tuning in, heroes! 🔮 If you enjoyed this one, please share it around! The War Within is NEARLY HERE, and our underground exploration into Khaz Algar may shed light on a mystery of astronomical proportions ~ ✨️

[@jbutler8585]

Hallowfall/Beledar's fluctuations being a preview of what's gonna happen to our sun during Midnight is such a clean and obvious parallel now. How else would you cover the world in darkness if not flip the sun to voidmode.

[@garrisonweekes8808]

you deserve so many more subs. your content is top-tier

[@friezeray]

the way you manage to wrap all your threads into a beautiful conclusion is just *chefs kiss* amazing video!

[@_xaxxas]

Very glad to hear it!

[@johnleep4435]

This video was great xaxxas your content is the best thanks for another banger of a video

[@LDaemontus]

I am happy to see that someone else is starting to see the cold, blue stars/void star references! This ties so well into the "elune" / void" themed store mounts/subscription mounts we've been getting lately.

[@_xaxxas]

Oh I knew I forgot to include something, and it was that Ash'adar solar/lunar cat mount! 🤣 I had the images saved for it too. Good point about the mounts.

[@MrRachoBico]

Dude, your videos are so well edited and put together! How do you that!? Outstanding quality and storytelling! 👏

[@_xaxxas]

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[@KirkpatrickSounds]

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[@SmugHomura]

I love how you came onto the scene of wow Loretubers with such a unique style. Amazing stuff Xaxxas!

[@dominicpollock5933]

Blizzard needs to hire you on their writing team..

[@reptilizer]

Meticulously crafted 👏 Your channel deserve tenfold the attention and I'm here for it

[@_xaxxas]

Thankful for your returning support! Glad you're enjoying it all 😁

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[@_xaxxas]

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[@Obsidian0Sky]

You are ABSOLUTLY CRUSHING these videos man. Quickly becoming my number one I have to watch this now wow creator.

[@_xaxxas]

Thank you kindly! That means a lot, and is very motivating. I'm stoked to get out the next vid for you guys!

[@SamA-xi8qj]

yeees! you're good, your claims are always insane sounding at first but you back them up logically. love it!

[@_xaxxas]

Haha that means a lot!

[@Hey-Malo]

wow amazing! TY, Im now waiting for Pyro reaction love you both

[@shadowgamer4306]

In the context of this theory it is also interesting to consider the pandaren legend of the five suns and how four of Azeroth’s suns have fallen and turned into beings of shadow. I would highly suggest looking the legend up.

[@LDaemontus]

Ah! I see you've also enjoyed the Mad Duck!

[@shadowgamer4306]

@@LDaemontus I have been following the mad duck for at least 3 years.

[@notoriousbig3k]

Pandaren Legends are exaggerated tales

[@Valkyani]

Love how you talk about the duality between light and void. Very well and solid crafted theory.

[@nazotech7590]

That excellent voice sold me on subbing right off the bat

[@sylphephilippe449]

Always mind blowing ! Xaxxas you're doing an amazing job !

[@_xaxxas]

Thank you once again! Really awesome to have folks like you discussing ideas in the Discord and tuning in each episode! You's a real one 👉👉

[@sylphephilippe449]

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[@karolflis187]

- Do I think you need to be high to understand this theory? - Yes - Do I think yoiu have an X-Files style "I want to believe" poster in your room? - Yes - Do I think this was one of the most creative and non-conforming WoW vids I've seen in the last few years? - Also yes. :)

[@Bramandin]

Let's be honest, nothing is more fantastical than what is going on IRL. You can't make up anything more cool than the Sun. Pun intended.

[@Nagria2112]

ok that is actually genius lore theory crafting :O

[@weisheng787]

Banger video ! Also, what if "Midnight" is Xal'atath turning off the sun, thus creating a large scale void invasion ?

[@noahmellemstrand4756]

If War Within ends with Xal doing that, that would be amazing holy shit!

[@Alpha_Sigma01]

Love the Newsroom artistic vibe, Some srsly cool twists and connections. Cool animations. I'm hooked lol! Thnx!

[@_xaxxas]

@Alpha_Sigma01 Welcome! thank you for dropping in, and stay tuned for more in the months ahead 😉

[@SouthernShodan]

Knowledge Wars background playing on Info Wars for conspiracies lol Nice touch

[@Araduorn]

Insanely good as always!

[@christtel1484]

Your theories are very interesting and certaibly feel grounded. Also Your use of the kadgars plan ost brought memories from wod.

[@gloameyedprince]

Just really fricken love your channel!

[@_xaxxas]

Thank you so much! Always stoked to hear it's resonating/enjoyable to watch at the least :)

[@C0rnvillain]

Any time you release a video I get hyped

[@_xaxxas]

@C0rnvillain 🤘Yo! rock on. Talk about motivating. Thank you.

[@hypersonicnl]

This is so good. Awesome work.

[@MalbecDPy]

Great video! Really diggin' the voice.

[@tweekt1293]

You are the new Nobbel sir. Great job!

[@snazzydrew]

OHHHH yeah baby! More lore from the mad Goblin.

[@benwhittle9001]

Another excellent thought provoking video. Already looking forward to watching it again with Pyro

[@brianhukee9978]

Dude I think you’re cracking the code. This is great stuff!

[@Jupiterpunk]

This was so clear, amazing examples & story telling!

[@soullsmordor9584]

I just realized, the tauren are extremely unique to azeroth. so far

[@_xaxxas]

@soullsmordor9584 Plot Twist: Tauren came from off-world using the Beledar as their UFO 🐄🛸 iconic imagery

[@Mr_GameAndWatch]

Nice video and roleplay my dude.

[@_xaxxas]

I'm glad it was enjoyable, thank you!

[@MrHupo]

Best lore content creator

[@donaldsanders5639]

Back in the Day when you started a new toon you got the "golden voice" telling you of your place and race in the world of Azeroth. I think they need to bring that shit back and hire you to do the voice!

[@Thromash]

Let's go matey!

[@Cliodhna-z1i]

Ah yes, 22 minutes, I feel that my hunger has been sated.

[@bonjwamaurice]

Great video! I would like to point out a few things to complete the picture. Regarding Khadgar's theory that Elune created the Naaru, we have new information from Chronicles Vol. 4. It now only mentions a "celestial connection." This new vague wording might fit better into the mythos. You mentioned that Azeroth's world soul could be a star. In this context, the audio drama A Thousand Years of War is interesting: "It found warmth near a sun, and a world formed around it to protect it as it grew." Lastly, I want to comment on An'shuul, the Cosmic Wanderer. The word "planet" comes from the Greek word Πλανήτης, which can be translated as "wanderer." This implies to me that An'shuul is actually a planet. But you're right that the connection to An'she could be relevant.

[@lazlonazario2499]

Would love to see your ideas for new old gods like for example a lot of darkened crystals falling into our planet giving birth to new old gods during the Deathwing's cataclysm

[@Kithhurrn]

Interesting theory. Another point in it's favor is that Priests can wield either Holy (Light) magic or Shadow (Void), just depends on which aspect they tap into.

[@NotSeregnar]

Another great episode! The idea of a universe-wide Hour of Twilight is...harrowing. Or maybe I misunderstood and it's more like it's always the Hour of Twilight somewhere, which is it's own form of tragic.

[@Boomken76]

I feel that when it comes to the "world" of warcraft is all the "forces" exists but when these forces condense they begin to form "sentience" , the more "dense" this force condenses the more "aware" it becomes. ex holy energy condensed to the point of forming crystals we may get the Naru

[@_xaxxas]

@Boomken76 I love how mystical/hermetic that sounds!

[@lennoxraynewood2741]

Maybe trapped inside the sword shard is a brother and sister who’s parents locked them in a room “until they learn to get along” not knowing the two had vowed to never get along ever!!

[@lightwarden.]

Another great video, let's goooo!

[@_xaxxas]

Good to see ya popping in again, thank you!

[@giornogiovanna4062]

Amazing video!!

[@hexb4ne964]

Didn’t see it yet, it’s on my list for tomorrow, but just seeing the Thumbnail, going to be a banger again. But as always, I think Xaxxas is an Blizzard Employee who’s only job is to spread rumors and tinfoil hats into the community. Love you. ❤️

[@anorethil2]

Yesterday I watched "Xal'atath entschlüsselt? - Nyarlathotep, Hastur und die Naaru" (it's German) by @bonjwamaurice, and he mentioned Zao Sunseeker. Though he is only a story come to life and the story plays in quite recent times, I think it might be a great hint of an older story behind it. Sunseeker is said to have shot 4/5 suns out of the sky of Azeroth. Maurice also links it to the crystals. The interesting thing is the myth behind Sunseeker. It's based on Asian mythology about Hou Yi. 10 suns traveled around the world, but when the suns decided to play together, it was too much, and Hou Yi shot down 9/10. They turned into three-legged crows (-> birds, aracoa?) and the crows are the yin-yang opposite of the embodiement of the moon. Hou Yis wife, btw, was the goddess of the moon ^^ The crows also rested in a giant tree of life, and Sunseeker also got the elixir of life from that tree, but his wife stole it and took it to the moon with her. When I read all this, I saw so many parallels! I immediately thought of the old goods when I heard "4/5 shot out of the sky." The connection you made about potential portals for the old gods makes so much sense in this light. So maybe the old gods weren't even just thrown through one portal in random numbers, but one old god per "sun"?

[@notoriousbig3k]

or the 4 suns turned into old gods of flesh corrupted but yet the paladins and mages should ahd known this by now

[@McLolzable]

Can you imagine, each sun out there a latent titan.

[@notoriousbig3k]

if so Titans would had harvest all stars by now ...

[@BlututhHS]

Great video as always! I recently saw a theory video by The Dread Expanse that talked about how the Hallowfall Crystal could be one of the four suns shot down by the Pandaren Zao Sunseeker in the old legend we hear about in Temple of the Jade Serpent, and that theory really fits perfectly alongside this one! This was a very interesting watch with that other theory in mind 😀

[@xsvrrx]

hes back!

[@koollan]

You only make bangers.

[@blackrdknight]

Great as always! Do your voices the goblin yourself?

[@_xaxxas]

@blackrdknight Yes I voice Nazaxx and his guests :) only female voices have to rely on any AI filtering of my performance, but I take the narration part seriously! Mostly because it's very fun! 🤣 so I'm glad it's not unlistenable, hahha. That's why the first video on the channel had a full filter even for a male goblin, I just didn't think anyone would want to listen through if it was just my own voice, but once i decided to make more content I knew I didnt want to use AI as a basis. Thank you for watching!

[@blackrdknight]

@@_xaxxas You are doing a very good job at the voice! I hope it is not hurting your vocal cords to much? :D

[@TekLura]

that a great video!!

[@GreatBorden]

Abolute lore GOAT!

[@Mana_Bunz]

Ah, yes, here we go! *happily folds tinfoil hat*

[@Bramandin]

I am not the resistance to cosmos divided. I am here to take sides and win B^) For the Alliance bro!

[@seksehfox]

I’m losing my mind, what is the song that starts at 4:44 plz? Awesome vid, subbed!

[@_xaxxas]

@@seksehfox "Khadgar's Plan" is the title of the track! Thanks for watching :)

[@randomnessocity]

This was very captivating. Makes me wonder, if we accept this worldview to be true, is Elune (and other true deities) a solar light based crystal shard or something else entirely?

[@_xaxxas]

Well, I am stewing on this and withheld any bolder claims from this particular video, but your question could follow the line of thinking that asks: there are 'Shards' of pure light scattered by the cosmos, IF those are the Stars, maybe we can link Elune's connection to lunar worship of the Night Warriors on Fyzandi to the very Star that Fyzandi orbits. And in so, perhaps the answer to what are these 'shards' fragments of to begin with? Elune herself, perhaps? Something that is pure light and shadow before the birth of the cosmos? Thanks for watching :)

[@nataschajordan6053]

maybe elune is the only of the naaru that doesnt try to shine 100% nor falls to the void, cause shes doing the 50/50 thing correctly.

[@Knito854]

Explains the eclipse look of Xalataths eyes

[@nataschajordan6053]

meybe its actually energy saving if naaru would circle rather 50/50 ^^ but they choose to exeggerate their holy part, then they die off from literal burnout. and maybe thats what Xal speaks of when she says they are brethren that lost the way - cause they are supposed to shine/darken 50/50 and not shine 100% and then die off to become voidlords

[@notoriousbig3k]

false they regenerate again into Naaru thats the purpose they shine and become void and regenarate after acumulating souls Xal is a Old God shes the 5th the secret one she corrects the fail mission of 4 wich betrayed the Void Lords

[@razt3757]

Hear me out... What if Elune is actually the big baddy? This whole story is a classic duality, between Elune and Anshee (The Sun Goddess), of which we know verry little. In Draenor we learn that Apexis crystals have the ability to channel "Sun power", and I think they can also channel "Void power". That huge ass crystal inside Azeroth is an Apexis crystal, and i think all Naruu's are actually Apexis crystals imbued with Anshee's or Elune's powers. Elune and Anshee are continuously trying to take over that crystal. They're competing over planets all over the universe. And I think that's how Titans are born, from giant Apexis crystals which can be found only inside a planet, reason why those planets normally are destroyed in the process of birth of a Titan, because the crystal must shatter to bring the Titan into the world. Since the Draenor expainsion, I could never shake off the thought that we were supposed to get a raid in the Spires of Arak (among other content also, oh wel...), we even got some hints to what the raid might've been at the time, rumors were going around that it was supposed to be the mythical palace in the sky above The Spires of Arak. I believe we learn about this palace in some questline in Spires of Arak, and no, it's not the dungeon, that's just a tower, there's supposed to be a floating palace above, like Dalaran of sorts. We never got to see that, but we know it exists. People are sleeping on the Draenor expansion, but I think it offers some cool side lore. As bad as it might've been from the point of view of content, it doesn't take away the fact that the content itself was of great quality, we also got some new lore, not just answers to old questions, we actually got new lore with the Arakkoa. I don't buy the theory that Azeroth's somehow a special case, it might be a powerful Titan, but still a Titan. I think Elune and An'shee are actual Gods superior in every way to any type of Titan, and the only way they can interact with the material universe is through Apexis crystals. Everything else are derivates or side effects from those two Godesses. Your theory on where those crystals come from and how we got one inside Azeroth is interesting, but I don't think that's what Azeroth's Sun is. Usually the Moon and the Sun are depicted as twins in folk lore, I find it very difficult to belive that the Sun is a "crystal star" while the Moon is just an actual Moon like we know it in the real world, a symtetry is usually expected there. So I think Azeroth's sun is a normal Sun, especially since it seems to be spherical because it actually seems to produce a proper eclipse event. I'm not saying gravity is not a thing, yes over bilions of years the crystal could've collapsed into a spherical object but I don't really see how it would produce heat and why undead can walk in the "sunlight" in the lore. Anyway, one last thing that blew my mind when I researched this Apexis crystal thing: The Ashbringer was created from an unknown type of crystal, it is said that crystal could become a force for good or evil, a dark or light crystal, which is why the Ashbringer can be corrupted and cleansed. Well, in the lore, that crystal was found by Morgrain on the corpse of an Orc warlock, and he says that crystal comes from Draenor. I bet that crystal is an Apexis crystal. Look it up, the lore specifically says the crystal comes from Draenor.

[@notoriousbig3k]

dude Elune and An''she are not the whole Universe of warcraft Naruu appeared every were in Universe and Void Lords too during the clash of the forces millenia ago Elune is not bad and is not fighting An'she Elune is somehow the sister of that Robot in Shadowlands it was already revealed that there are bigger advanced Dimensions than ours and that robot said that the real Elune left to live on that Moon btw use brain Void Walkers liek the Locus-Walker are not even beings of this DImension to begin with their even explained that Void is not even evil and that was him explaining about his race and how they came to being its all a fake game for other entities to harvest power and energy without conflict between them same as in God and the Creation of Hell and Heaven (the real ones not the man made concepts) wich both are under him and are left Hell or negative energy and Heaven were positive energy is and that both factions are called angels the old writtings even said there are even of Hells residence living in Heaven to conduct experiments my whole thought is that you people forgot Shadowlands and how it impacts lore truth and reality in that universe they all dismiss it they even called the titans puppets and were able to use a different energy that was controlling the 5 ones in our WC universe SL proved that some of the Gods have different names in that Dimension and that their are scientists machine like entities i think that in the 3rd Expansion of this new volume of expansions we either return back or that the next 3 expansions after this 3 ones we get to meet a surviving scientist (their downfall was fighting each other bsc of the reset BS that Jailer wanted to stop but he in the end was the one to reset things )

[@avstzn]

i love these videos so much my only critique is that the music volume should be turned down a bit

[@_xaxxas]

I appreciate that feedback! I might have a bias to let the music lead the narrative, but I'll keep this in mind for future vids that it's a balance for sure.

[@avstzn]

@@_xaxxas i totally get that & think it’s definitely great having the music but i found myself struggling to hear you at times

[@RavenIV]

Here before the Pyromancer reacts❤

[@AllOnTheChannel]

Bro is a 5 star chef

[@lexysraymont9627]

It's really impressive how you give your all to sound like a crazy lunatic guy and yet manage to make such logical theories. Blizzard should create an ingame character after you, making him "the guy telling insane theories with hidden truths"

[@frazerrhughess]

Blima blolger blof bliggity-blazeroth

[@So_Stupendous]

awesome video. trying to still tie in the an'she/sargeras connections though.. i was thinking maybe the titans titanforged an'she, the original sun, into sargeras, and elune placed the crystal there in his place, in service of life. the eonar/elune/naaru connections are extremely interesting, still a mystery i'm waiting to get more lore on. if both azeroth's sun and moon become that cosmic void star, that would look a lot like xal'atath's little orb things. i can imagine that happening and azeroth's skys being purple for a patch. is that the hour of twilight? a patch is quite longer than an hour..

[@thedreadexpanse3817]

Love the theory. If I may ask how do you think the story "The Embrace" (Another story from Folks and Fairy Tales (Same as Eyes of the Earth mother.)) could fit into your theory? I ask because that story seems to really support most of the conclusions you've come to while disputing some other smaller parts.

[@_xaxxas]

I have a video about The Embrace titled "MIDNIGHT: Azshara's Redemption & Elune's Embrace" on the channel if you're interested :) thanks for watching!

[@shadowgamer4306]

@@_xaxxasYou should do a collaboration with TheDreadExpanse where you both discuss things related to WoW’s lore!

[@Aureora]

This guy works at Blizzard, i swear.

[@_xaxxas]

Thanks again for popping by and enjoying the video!

[@marinomusico5768]

Awesome ❤

[@RomaRapoport]

Subbed!

[@steffen7478]

calling it now. before it's over, we, the player base, are gonna be responsible for destroying that crystal in hallowfall

[@preds43]

I personally don't think Elune and An'she are Light beings, but I do believe they worked with the Pantheon of Light when creating the Naaru, primarily Elune. Still a unique theory nonetheless.

[@CoryClark814]

maybe theres a connection with the 5 suns story in mist of pandaria. maybe an early version of azeroth with 5 crystal shards and something destroyed the other 4 and one just went to void for a while?

[@_xaxxas]

@CoryClark814 from Chronicle Volume II : "In her dreams, Mereldar saw Five stranges forms, not human, thrumming with holy power. They filled her mind with the wisdom of holiness, protection, justice, retribution, and compassion." And in Volume I, it's said that human priest began having visions of The Naaru of The Great Dark Beyond. Question is, if Mereldar was seeing FIVE Naaru, where are they and who are these five naaru? You mention the 5 suns, which are said in the legend to turn to sha when they are shot down- maybe like a naaru turning dark when its weakened. Mereldar is the origin of the Church of the Holy Light, and the Arathi we meet in TWW are descendants of her followers, even naming their new capital city "Mereldar", which sits beneath the Hallowfall crystal, which we officially know now is named "Beledar". The five naaru that spoke to Mereldar are inside Beledar, if I had to bet. I have a video about this but I got the name of the Beledar wrong, guessing it was also named "the Mereldar", though I think the hypothesis in the video about the crystal's nature and purpose might hold some water still. Check it out!

[@CoryClark814]

@@_xaxxas I was thinking that the missing or void turned stars was probably the beginning of the black empire.

[@notoriousbig3k]

the 4 Naruu are the Old Gods wich proves that Naaru and Old Gods are the same species while the Void Lords and Lords of Light are the manipualtors

[@Lgd4033fourty]

I like to think Metzen is the DM and Warcraft is his campaign. Maybe everything is meant to be a DnD Campaign cycle of sorts. We are the main players in his DnD campaign and are outside of the cycle. THE CYCLE. Warcraft from past present to future has been a cycle without the "heroes" or US involved. Warcraft 3 shows this, chronicle not speaking of us. World of Warcraft includes us now, we appear in lore in chronicle aswell now. This timeline is the true timeline because we have logged into our characters everyday and have saved Azeroth thousands of times. Maybe theres tons of timelines because of our involvement and wipes during raids? We get saved everytime and do not pass to the Shadowlands where other orcs/humans etc. travel to. Why? Because we are outside of the program and video game controlling heroes in-game. Maybe theres tons of timelines because say, during the Lich King fight we wipe and he takes over Azeroth. But then we are successful and continue within the true timeline. We can wipe during Deathwing, and he is successful in his cataclysm-> yet we rez and win. Timeline splits at a wipe or clear of important lore boss fights. We can wipe during the Jailer fight, he is successful aswell, yet we rez and continue the true timeline. "True" timeline. The way the DM has set up the campaign to go. Basically what im trying to say is WC3 didn't really involve player characters. Maybe without us the story of World of Warcraft wouldn't be what it is. It would be a never ending cycle of events. Maybe its Black Empire-> Titan ordering-> Void returns the world back to Black Empire. Void sun/Light sun. But now we are the breaker of chains. The player characters. Those outside of this cycle. Logging in everyday to save Azeroth and continue the "true" timeline, which is just another way of saying we are the players in the DnD campaign, losing and winning to change and save a world that was and always has been in a cycle of light and void or shadow.

[@notoriousbig3k]

actually no Lich King won Azeroth created a new time line giving Turion the power to ressurect the champions of her light Turion was first to call us The champions of Azeroth the champions are the true guardians of Azeroth we will be the ones to stop the birth of the Titan within as well Nzoth for seen we gonna succeed wich was in his plans all allong what people forget is that the 4 Old Gods betrayed the Void Lords and Xal'Athat is there to correct it actually for the 5th Old God theory still stands also Fel or Chaos is another element of Power proof being Sargeras and Legion and is to be as old or older power than the Void and Light for even Void fears it Azeroth wants to stay in slumber but the Titans planted a seed to grow a Titan in it even Khadgar found out our world must be put to sleep or else we are all dead Azeroth was suppose to be the weapon against Sargeras in the mind of Titans

[@mattmarinovich7752]

There is also a theory that Sargeres is An'she. ;)

[@scr798]

Ain't the giant crystal on the ceiling?Actually the tip of that sword?

[@_xaxxas]

"During Wowhead's Blizzcon 2023 interview with developers Anne Stickney and Tina Wang, it was made clear that the crystal is not the Sword of Sargeras. Tina Wang: Something that I've seen online is that some people think the crystal and the crystalline ceiling is the sword - and it's not. I just want to clarify that."

[@notoriousbig3k]

dude they are worshipping for hundred of years

[@lexysraymont9627]

Wait... Voidlords come from Naa'rus?? 🤔 where is that from?

[@_xaxxas]

Naaru are known to become Void Gods, but in the novel "Before the Storm", it happens to be written that the naaru Saa'ra became a "void lord" named Saraka the Lighteater. Possibly a mistake, but it was a Christie Golden book, so she's usually careful with details.

[@lexysraymont9627]

@@_xaxxas I had never heard of the term "voidlord" to describe void naa'ru 😯 And yes, I tend to consider Christie Golden as a reliable source. I wonder what Voidlords are now

[@Nagria2112]

counter argument: why is azeroth the "strongest of them"?

[@connissia]

Could be Azeroth is the strongest one they've found YET and there are unknown numbers of worldsouls.

[@notoriousbig3k]

the Lore said Azeroth is the strongest and unique etc i think its bologny its that the factions want to live and not want to be wiped out they fight in arranged wars not in true wars

[@Helman114]

I mean if this theory is true it finally explains what Elune is. She's our shield for when, once every night, our star turns void. lol

[@_xaxxas]

But then where would the Moonlight come from? Check out the yellow-text for the Tearstone of Elune legendary: "The myth surrounding Elune, one of the few true deities of Azeroth, suggest her true identity might not yet have been fully understood." If she's not the Moon, as per the myth, then what is she? The Source of Moonlight, the Sun. :)

[@LarryMerice]

Nobody talking about An'shuul though....

[@quantumbison]

I'm still waiting for Detheroc to storm out of Gallywix's fat belly button. Come onnn!

[@TehWolfmanOP]

I'm just saying... the next expansion is called "Midnight" :eyes:

[@notoriousbig3k]

the expansion u named comes after War Within but its about the gathering of the elven races again allong the trolls they are doing a ritual at a cycle time etc but some one will interfere

[@gabrielcaston6816]

Meanwhile BELORE keeps sitting in a corner, waiting to some day be remembered by wow content creators and perhaps even wow devs themselves. You know? ¿Belore? ¿The elven god of the sun and literal counterpart of Elune who is named by almost every belf npc in their phrases? ¿Anu Belore delanar? ¿The ETERNAL SUN guides us?. When Blizzard described the canonic story of the Quel'dorei, they told us how they turned to sun worshipping after leaving the remaining nelf society (except for Suramar and Eldre'thalas, whose denizens technically remained as high elves too while isolated from the outside world after the sundering). Thus the first mention of Belore, the dedication of the sunwell to him, the creation of their kingdom as a shiny realm of midday and eternal spring, and their offspring eventually being "day" elves. It's not that I discard your theory, amazing work as usual, btw. It just surprises me how everyone recalls An'she but completely forgets about his elven figure, who's been in the lore since pretty much the beginning of WoW itself, much before than the depiction of An'she.

[@_xaxxas]

@gabrielcaston6816 totally agree with you! I guess I just never even realized that needed deeper explaining. Like this video tries to portray, we are sort of just discussing the equivalent to cultural-semantics with names like Elune/Mu'sha, An'she/Belore. And it's interesting, I've never seen it wrote as Elore. Beledar from 11.0 and the Bel in Belore, which I understood it to be, could be related? Thanks for the comment, I hear ya now and I think you're onto something with the idea that it shouldnt be overlooked. Midnight is an Elf expack after all, and so if/when I bring up Belore/Elore, it'll be because of you!

[@gabrielcaston6816]

@@_xaxxas I looked upon it and I realized I've been writing it wrong all this time. I've encountered it as "Elore" several times before, it may have been a bad translation since for many years I've played the game in another language. That's kinda embarrassing lol, sorry! Nonetheless, I was indeed going in that direction, trying to point out how the "solar" aspect of the Quel/Sin'dorei culture is completely overlooked, even if it's everywhere around them. I think it's somehow on Blizzard's to blame, as along the game they have emphasized in the mana addict and magical abusing aspects of their society, but gave very little development to their theological/mythological background. It's almost as if they forgot about Belore. In time, they even chose a Naaru enslavement storyline to build up the Blood knights (A weird choice, maybe?). Whereas it was interesting, it's funny to think it would have been far easier to simply build them around the holy figure of their sun god instead (just as they would later do with the taurens). Anyway, with some luck, Blizz will seize Midnight to bring more of this up as, like you say, it seems like the perfect opportunity to build the ultimate development around the cosmic duality and give some sort of enclosure to elven theology. In that same sense, I totally agree with you that Beledar should outright be connected to Belore. Ps: The not so known Black/saturnal aspect of the sun in real world esotericism and mythology is a fascinating plot to build even a new theology for the Void elves too. You're really witty, you've noticed and already going in that direction. Let's keep thinking it up! Once again, thanks for your great work!

[@nataschajordan6053]

hmmm An'she An'Shuul ... you could be onto sth there.

[@notoriousbig3k]

An'shuul was the name of another star they tamed but star was small

[@LiracyonLeague]

The biggest disproval of your wonderful theories is rather simple: Blizzards writing team isnt that good. And definitely didnt think this far ahead.

[@timar6868]

if only blizz writers and devs were as smart as this guy, but they are not and they write by the seat of their pants; they themselves most likely do not know what is what even now.

[@mykaelnyx8821]

I'm Like #666! Woot!

[@EldarDave120]

Most excellent.

[@NWA-TjalfeTooStonedToAim]

It never sad right with me that the Void randomly threw Old Gods into the cosmos hoping to hit a world soul and somehow 4-5 of them hit the same planet.. Kinda like when the only mongoloid looking Primarch in Warhammer40K by pure coincident lands on the planet that has a mongoloid/Ghengis Khan civilization and culture 😁

[@_xaxxas]

@@NWA-TjalfeTooStonedToAim indeed it struck me as vague and improbable, given the sheer vastness of space, EVEN WITH the whole 'Thousand truths/all possibilities' angle of the Void. Tried to take the canon for its word here and still make some sense of the mechanics involved in such a claim 😅

[@deLumren]

I believe Primarch names were given by the local population, and the culture propagated from this planet through the Primarch to their respective legions. Jaghatai would have had a different name and vibe if he was stranded on a different world. As for Warcraft - yeah, so many hits at random seem rather silly :)

[@notoriousbig3k]

Primarchs were named by The Emperor