Old Hornby R450 LMS 2P 4-4-0 Non Running Loco Lives Again

This is the 3rd non running loco I bought from my local second hand shop. It's a 1973 Hornby R450 Class 2P 4-4-0 Fowler.

[@frankcoward5448]

I have the same loco in the same condition, but as I had a coupe of air fix 5 pole motors, from same era, I changed that and used the same worm drive. Works a treat.,

[@donniblanco5239]

Immaculate - 47 yrs old - What a find !! Supercool 😎 - That’s my kind of Loco - Vintage Cool Runnings 🚂👍🏻🚂👍🏻

[@rangerstl07]

Noise issues? Nah, mate. I have one of these in America and it's one of the quietest locomotives of that era. I absolutely love to send it 'round the Christmas tree every season.

[@ghostengineer]

Just discovered your channel yesterday and I'm so enthralled at your videos. Slowly going thru and watching them

[@russellbenton2987]

Nice one . One of my favourites . Introduced 1973 only lasted 2 years in catalogue . Was originally the Triang L1 but they changed the moulding to make it a compound . Just come across your channel and really enjoying it as I also run locos from my youth , to date .

[@David-ci1vn]

Occam's razor Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, Ocham's razor, also known as the principle of parsimony or the law of parsimony, is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity". It is generally understood in the sense that with competing theories or explanations, the simpler one, for example a model with fewer parameters, is to be preferred. In other owrds, if there's a problem, the correct solution is probably the simplest, I had both Rovex/Tri-ang era trains and Scalextrix and some handbuilt cars, cleaning the commutators was always a "must".

[@capybara8868]

Enjoyed this and all of your other vids. Nice too, to hear a Scottish voice (Penicuik here!) - a nice contrast to the equally excellent Barrie Davie and Sam's Trains. Keep up the great work. 🚂🚉👍🏼

[@buzzukfiftythree]

Nice video - amazing what one finds in second-hand shops. The loco looks in really good condition. I've just finished repairing and restoring the very same 2P loco that I bought new way back in the early 1970s. True, it's not as detailed as Hornby locos are these days, but it still runs well enough and happily pulls a rake of four Mk1 carriages. I'd re-liveried it in the 1990s to fit in with my BR layout then, but have now restored it to its LMS original. Although I mainly model in N Gauge Swiss these days it was great to re-visit OO Gauge and run this and a similarly restored Hornby Patriot (5533 Lord Rathmore) on a small test track oval.

[@simoncrago3871]

FABULOUS, this was my second Hornby locomotive I had for my eighth birthday in 1974 from my dearest mum and dad ❤️🌹 in Fareham,loved it

[@Locknut61]

That is the L1 chassis. I have an L1 from about 1965, runs well, but the body needs some work. All the steps are broken off and missing.

[@shedhead00]

Wow what a find, I got a triang princess of ebay yesterday x03 bearings worn out to much play got bits of xo4's so trying tonight to hybridise a working motor

[@MrPopCatGaming]

nice railway setup

[@terryblackman6217]

Great find, looks like its had very little running.

[@paulnewnes1921]

Another cracking video Bill not to mention a cracking loco once you breathed your magic on it, Really pleased that I discovered your channel have learned alot from it already

[@charlie1872]

Another fine job Bill

[@Mookie1340]

Brilliant. Love to see non-runners, running again.

[@ironhorse3826]

One of my favourite locos!

[@iandouglas451]

well done bill!

[@modelrailwaystrains]

Hi great job

[@buzzukfiftythree]

It's a real shame that not one of this class survives.

[@tonyslight826]

Cant beat the oldens Bill well done.

[@reliantrailways]

A nice loco, love it! 👍

[@rydermike33]

Very nice indeed. Well done with that repair. How many locomotives do you have in the fleet now?

[@oobill]

17 😉

[@rydermike33]

@@oobill wow!

[@gerrygorman273]

Another great vid Bill, do you do subscriber non runner repairs?

[@johngibson4641]

Hi Bill ,, Q. What is the difference between an X03 and an X04 motor in the Triang/Hornby loco's if you dont mind explaining the difference to us. (or if anyone knows for that matter). Thanks again for the video's you share as we learn from heaps from them Cheers from John in Australia

[@oobill]

The main difference is the worm gear. On the X04 it's brass and on the later X03 it's plastic. X04s sometimes have felt oil reserves on the bearings too that X03s don't.

[@johngibson4641]

@@oobill ahuh thankyou for that m8.

[@brando6BL]

The smoke originated from the lack of insulation on the brush-tensioning spring, just on the one side, causing a short. The cleaning of the commutator was a good catch as was the oiling; but omitting the insulation tube was a goof. It had clearly had a good run at some time over the years, viz. the state of the commutator, so I wonder if a previous owner had attempted to replace the brushes and broken the spring.

[@oobill]

I didn't omit the insulation tube. It smoked because the commutator and brushes were filthy. The armature failing to turn caused the dirt on brushes to burn.

[@brando6BL]

@@oobill I do apologise. I hadn't twigged the black tube, only the brown one which was still on the bench. I managed to add 2+2 and ended up with 3. D'oh!

[@oobill]

@@brando6BL No probs. The trouble with making these videos is you can't talk about and demonstrate every single step and detail without it being over an hour long! Or boring people away... 😉

[@cogidubnus1953]

If I'm absolutely honest I jumped to the same false conclusion, so brando isn't alone in that!

[@DeafIaint]

Thankyou. Personally, I would get rid of that front coupling.

[@oobill]

I did. Along with a few of my other locos that will never push.

[@abbush2921]

Pretty mankey LOL !!!!!! I'd like to give you a dozen thumbs up for that a lone !

[@holybrookejunction4758]

Thanks for sharing. The oil applicator is that home made would love one of them

[@oobill]

Look up Modelcraft or Gaugemaster Precision Lubricator on Amazon or eBay.

[@holybrookejunction4758]

@@oobill many thanks great video,s of servicing loco,s watching them now. All the best Al

[@mikeking2539]

What is the dif between an X03 and a X04 motor?

[@oobill]

The main difference is that the X03 which came after the X04 has a plastic worm as opposed to the brass worm on the X04. The X04 also has felt oil reserves around the bearings which the X03 doesn't. The X04 also has a thrust bearing between the worm gear and the front plate.

[@mikeking2539]

@@oobill Thank you, so to me it sounds like the X04 is better because of the bearing, and the felt oil reserves. I kind of stumbled across your videos, and they are intersting. Could not beleive how badley designed the 142 2 car unin was. But well done on getting one to work

[@oobill]

@@mikeking2539 The X04 is a more robust motor but the X03 is usually quieter because of the plastic gears. The oil reserves aren't really that effective so I can see why Hornby did away with them.

[@jobiff16v]

hi did you buy a new motor for your class 156?

[@oobill]

No it works fine. I'll be filing the gears down on it and the class 33 this weekend after seeing the difference it made to the class 55.