Old jeeps, Whats the difference? The easiest way to tell

[@stevengrobbelaar2334]

Thank you for the video. I look forward ro every video you make. I am a Willys and Jeep addict

[@MatelotsousMarin]

Great recognition lesson. Happy to say my '42 GPW scored correct on all points.

[@briarmario9463]

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[@kingstonmalakai5910]

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[@matthardiman9764]

My tool box has two smaller hinges and not the long one. Any ideas?

[@rogeroliver5083]

Hi, what year did the rear light bracket change from horizontal witch collected dirt etc, to vertical witch did not. My jeep is 1944 and it has vertical brackets. Roger Norfolk.

[@-oiiio-3993]

Wanna know about ACM? Prior to making 'tubs' for Ford and Willys 'Jeeps' along with Willys and Bantam trailers, American Central Manufacturing (ACM) and its predecessor companies had been pioneers of automobile body construction. Central Manufacturing started to shift from carriage building to all wood bodies for autos in 1903 for Cadillac, Packard, and Studebaker. By 1905 they were adding metal sheets to their wood bodies and by 1907 these metal clad bodies were their mainstay. By 1913 Central supplied bodies to 25 auto manufacturers. During World War One, Central built bodies for GMC trucks that were contracted to be built for the U.S. Army by the Lexington Motor Car Company (practically next door to Central) as well as 'cartridge storage cases'. Postwar, Central built bodies for Apperson, Auburn, Cole, Davis, Durant, Elcar, Empire, Gardner, Greenville, Haynes, H.C.S. Lexington. Moon, National, Overland, Paige, Premier, Stutz, Westcott, "and many others". The affiliation that began in 1925 with Auburn would prove significant as E.L. Cord had reorganized Auburn with himself in control and brought much of Auburn's body production to Central Manufacturing. With this arrangement, Central built bodies for Auburn as they evolved to become some of the finest American automobiles of the classic era. Starting with the 1925 Auburn 6-66 and 8-88 , Central grew as Auburn acquired Duesenberg in 1926 and in 1927 Lycoming and Central's competitor, the Limousine Body Company, who also built bodies for Auburn. In 1928 Cord acquired controlling interest in Central Manufacturing By mid 1929 all of the aforementioned firms along with Saf-T-Cab , Expando, and Spencer Heater would be under the umbrella of the newly formed Cord Corporation. Soon afterward, production of the fabulous L-29 Cords would begin with prototypes built in various styles by Central and Limousine Body Co. Central Manufacturing continued to build production Auburn bodies into the 1930s and even built a few (3) Duesenbergs while also diversifying to production of steel kitchen cabinets and appliances. Central built prototypes of the futuristic Cord 810 that was perhaps too advanced and indeed too expensive for the market of 1935 and contributed to the demise of Cord's empire. After Cord's fall, Central carried on with the profitable cabinet and appliance production and also built small delivery vans called the Pac-Age-Car, later rebranded and sold as Diamond T. Central also built the bodies of the elegant Packard Darrin beginning in 1939. On May 14, 1940, Central Manufacturing reorganized as Auburn Central Manufacturing. When Auburn Central Manufacturing (ACM) got their initial contract with Willys Overland to build 'tubs' for the U.S. Army's new Truck, 1/4 ton, 4X4, Central set priorities and by May of 1941 Darrin production got the boot. ACM would be awarded several subsequent contracts for 'Jeep' bodies through WW2 while, by February of '41 were also building wing assemblies for Vultee A-31 dive bombers. On March 30, 1942, ACM changed the 'A' in its name from Auburn to American Central Manufacturing and suspended all non military manufacturing. ACM was a busy concern during WW2, building 'tubs for 'Jeeps' and their 1/4 ton trailers, wing assemblies, bomb bay doors, gun turret decks, collector rings, and carburetor air ducts for the Consolidated-Vultee B-24 Liberator Bomber. From the fall of 1943, when they started supplying Jeep tubs to Ford, through 1948, Central Manufacturing was the sole producer of Jeep bodies. A composite Jeep tub that combined the best features of the Ford and Willys-Overland tubs began production in January of 1944. Post - WW2, ACM focused again on producing steel cabinets and appliances and other items while continuing to build Jeep tubs for Willys through 1948. An excerpt from a 1948 ACM visitor's brochure: “In the jeep body assembly department, we find steel banging on steel, welding arcs sputtering and sending forth dancing showers of sparks. We see hundreds of small parts joined into front and rear sections of the jeeps’ steel bodies. As the bodies gradually assume recognizable shapes, they reach the joining tables, where they are welded into a complete body. Then it’s on to the metal cleansing cabinets, the paint booths, the drying ovens, final inspection, and at last the loading docks.” So, if you're still reading this, know that your ACM bodied 'Jeep' has the genes of fine Auburn, Packard and Cord automobiles as well as B-24 Liberators and even WW1 GMC trucks. Summarized / condensed from: www.coachbuilt.com/bui/c/central/central.htm

[@martentrudeau6948]

The little lad likes that Jeep too.

[@Greendot319]

She looks like a boy but definitely a girl ;) Will be a jeeper of the future!

[@NigelsModellingBench]

Hi, those extra bolt holes for the footman loop, are they common across all tubs? I have an ACMII and sure enough, the plate is there but the holes are filled as was most of the tub.. inside and out....

[@Greendot319]

I believe they are, if the plate is there then I think they must have been filled, cheers

[@marcarmstrong2249]

Hi Matt could you help me please! I have a 44 Willy’s and am wondering if I have the correct grille and bonnet how would I tell if the grill and bonnet are for a amc1 body . Help appreciated regards Marc

[@MURDOCK1500]

My mate built a 42 Jeep and fitted a brand new reproduction tub and all bodywork. In fact, pretty much everything from the chassis up was repop. My question is? What model are reproduction bodies based on?

[@mustangsally8236]

would you like to rummage through my box of rivets ................. :-) You missed out the convergence of the front scuttle ..( where you pointed out the Bonnet-hoot construction) iF you follow a ACM 1 Tub to the outer edge of the jeep it maintains an equidistant construction ( the same dimensions ) and does not narrow and join ( 6.19 and 6.55 other side of Jeep horn bracket)..I hope this make sense

[@tedwpx123]

👍👍Good video, Good info!

[@marcarmstrong2249]

Hi green dot I have a question after looking at your vid I can confirm I have a acm1 body but the numbers on it say it was made in feb 1945 could it still be acm1 ?

[@Greendot319]

The short answer is no, it is likely some or all of the elements of the jeep have been swapped around at some point either during the war or after it. It is very common for jeeps to be rebuilt and have a mix and later and earlier bits on them. Cheers matt

[@marcarmstrong2249]

Greendot 319 ok thanks so what year did Willy’s change to acm2 ?

[@marcarmstrong2249]

It had the square toe board gussets with the number stamped on them ?

[@marcarmstrong2249]

Lol sorry for all the questions Matt iv just got my first Willy’s jeep and an still learning

[@Greendot319]

@@marcarmstrong2249 43, have a look on your frame next to the front brake line that comes from the master cylinder to the front flex line. If there is a small hole on the inside of the frame that looks like a clip would go through to attach that brake line to to keep it in place then it is a 44 and later frame, if it's not there its earlier.

[@edstransitscott9186]

Great

[@OffroadMilitia]

If I remember right I had a 1942 Ford Flat Fender when I was man I'm talking 30 years ago almost but anyway it had a section in the back where it was It was obviously stock from the factory like this and it was kind of round 1/2 rounded in the back in the floor and one old man told me that it was where they put a gun turret that it was a mount for a gun tour it built into the floor of it and it may have actually been John Prine that told me that I knew an old man named Prine and he drove the first flat Fender Jeep up the stairs at the White House to show it off to the president for the war effort

[@Greendot319]

There is a factory fitted mount underneath the rear floor to bolt a machine gun mount too so he wasnt wrong!

[@-oiiio-3993]

If you lift the body off of a WW2 'Jeep' you'll see the steel plate that the M31c mounts: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5OvZWlqfK1_icU www.1942mb.com/article/122/MB%20GPW%20How%20to%20Install%20an%20M31c%20Machine%20gun%20mount%20in%20your%20WWII%20Jeep It wasn't the "first flatfender" (which was Bantam's 'Old No. 1') and it was the Capitol steps, not the White House stairs. The event was a 'presser' on February 19, 1941, showing off a prototype Willys Quad to dignitaries and reporters, one of whom asked an engineer "What does one call that thing?" to which the reply was, "It's a Jeep'. The article and photo, with caption including the word 'Jeep' , was published and is largely credited with instantly popularizing use of the name 'Jeep' for the Army's new Truck, 1/4 Ton, 4X4.: www.newspapers.com/clip/25948402/willys-quad-drives-up-capitol-steps/ www.fourwheeler.com/features/origins-of-the-jeep-birthing-a-75-year-legend/

[@brianburt2244]

Didn't you have a jeep on the road, is the same one on a rebuild.

[@Greendot319]

This is the new rebuild ;)

[@criscross6591]

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[@FubarSir]

Either you have a pin head or that jeep cap is WAY TOO BIG! (just a little Yankee ribbing)

[@Greendot319]

I'll leave that question up to you!

[@conceptalfa]

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[@healthyamerican]

dont believe the willis pronunciation..its willeeze and has always been willeeze

[@88SC]

I’m not so sure about that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpWroWijgpppqtU. But pronouncing it willeeze doesn’t bother me a bit.

[@healthyamerican]

@@88SC ive seen the kaiser commercials. Once kaiser bought jeep, they are free to pronounce the name any way they please. But the united states government and the world war 2 boys called it the willeez. Even the spelling of willys is willeez. Even if mr willeez want his name pronounced willis, it wouldnt matter at all, because his pride cannot override common sense. Even john boehner was embarrssed about his name and told everyone to pronounce it as baynor. Only difference is that millions of wwii boys pronounced it willeez, and that cannot be changed. No need to rewrite history to please a few men who wanted to change the natural pronunciation.

[@88SC]

@@healthyamerican How did the Willys company pronounce it before Kaiser?

[@healthyamerican]

@@88SC ive heard it called willeeze overland many times in ww2 documentaries. the fact is that even if mr willys wanted people to call him mr willis, it doesnt matter. its only eccentricities about the man if that were so. the point is that millions have dubbed it willeeze jeep and theres no need to correct people when they arent even wrong, as though trying to cater to a mans quirks when that man is long gone.

[@88SC]

@@healthyamerican To be honest, that’s the way I pronounce it too. Always have. I’m fond of trivia too, so I really do wonder if the company ever referred to itself the other way. That’s all.