I know I’m being nostalgic, but I love that sound that a cycle bar mower makes when mowing hay. It seems to grow back faster as well
@ryancrickenberger79623 жыл бұрын
Still use a New Holland 474 haybine. Works great!
@Noob2point03 жыл бұрын
Using a New Holland 488 to do 55 acres. Works great, such an upgrade from a sickle bar.
@SloansCreekFarm3 жыл бұрын
I use a 2009 1459 Massey Ferguson Haybine, which is basically a Hesston machine, behind a Kubota Grand L4760 to cut about 200 acres of hay each year. It does run with a lot less HP, and uses about half the diesel that my JD 6110 (72 PTO HP) does with this machine or a larger disc cutter with just a little bit more time. Diesel is a big Farm Expense to consider these days. Great explanation Neil!
@leemarchant71913 жыл бұрын
I grew up running a 488. Great swather, but I can’t imagine going back. I’m sure there’s people out there that it still works great for. Currently running a Case (New Holland) self propelled rotary.
@srad98ful3 жыл бұрын
used a New Holland 488 with the rubber rollers to cut 200 acres this year love the 9' cut and leaves a better cut with sharp blades.
@kurtkeltner91402 жыл бұрын
How long does that take to cut?
@Loompius6 ай бұрын
@@kurtkeltner9140 hes probably still out there cuttin
@farmingnodak3 жыл бұрын
Bar mowers are a hot commodity (again) this year in the midwest. I'm actually hoping to buy a haybine head this year. I think for the quality of cut, disc mowers don't do very well where it's thin/short crop and sickle type machines can struggle if high volume is present. Not to forget price, there is a pretty big discrepancy
@mattcrowell79453 жыл бұрын
I do about a 100acres a year with a 1091 Heston and a 50 horse tractor. Works pretty good and I can cover about 5 acres per hour. A lot lower cost than a disk mower for what I do. If I was trying to cover more ground I would definitely want a disk mower.
@RedIron10663 жыл бұрын
Run a 1090 with anywhere from 30-75hp in front of it. With a good set of knives & guards, they’ll eat!
@digitalguru423 жыл бұрын
I don't do hay work, only have a BX, but love the idea of towing a 9' implement with it!
@johanrunfeldt71743 жыл бұрын
A Haybine 488 needs 35hpPTO according to NewHolland's website.
@acdii3 жыл бұрын
Try 12' implement, the 9' is just the cutting width, theres still several feet of mechanics on either side.
@KPVFarmer5 ай бұрын
The best option is run and care for the equipment you already own. A good cost benefit analysis needs to be done for every purchase. Things look shiny and fancy but the biggest reason for farm failure is too much debt. Thanks Messick’s for very quick turnaround on a new belt for the NH 492!! Just Say’n 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸 Thanks for not making it sound like the older style equipment is “obsolete”.
@brandoncaldwell953 жыл бұрын
The older the better for me. I might have a new 75hp, but cheap equipment works well.
@joelknierim14569 ай бұрын
I use a Hesston 1090 pulled with my JD 3020 (or even my Farmall H). Does a nice job
@tpfromcentralpa16923 жыл бұрын
While not the fastest machines on earth, I think a cut from a haybine grows back quicker as the material is cut not "Sheared" off.............Another thing old heads around me always believed, the material being cut with a sickle is fed into the conditioning rolls perpendicular to them, unlike a discbine which can be any which way at high speed which leads to quicker drying of the material. Don't know if that is true or not, but makes sense when your shooting for dry hay...........haylage, discbine all the way.
@court23793 жыл бұрын
I just switched to a drum mower this year, and my experience is that the rotary mower uses nearly twice the fuel the sicklebar did, and was only slightly faster. It's super noisy too. I wouldn't go back though. It cuts in both directions, it doesn't get clogged, it is debris and damage resistant, and it cuts closer to the ground. That last one got me 10-20% more crop off the field and helps pay for the upgrade.
@talon846 ай бұрын
I'm running a 12' mower conditioner with a 24.7 horse subcompact tractor (KIOTI CS2410) with zero issues... going on two years now. I've found that most implements are FAR over estimated on the required HP. I've used an old 7-foot sickelbar mower, NH 488 haybine, NH 315 square baler and it doesn't even slow down on my hilly property. I will say that using a subcompact can be dangerous if ground is to steep due to it being light and able to tip sideways. Flat ground no issues at all.
@danielwilliamson15773 жыл бұрын
If you ever get one in, I'd love to see a video on the larger haybines. I see some videos of them cutting, I'm wondering how easy they are to transport on the road.
@mikelip91463 жыл бұрын
More hay making equipment videos please.
@MessicksEquip3 жыл бұрын
several in the pipeline
@jacobesparza39335 ай бұрын
@@MessicksEquipI would love to see a Kubota L3902 running the haybine.
@carterblann22903 жыл бұрын
Here’s something for you think about. I bought a John Deere 830 moco it’s 10ft center pivot machine it needs at least 70pto tractor and weighs just over 5000lbs! I put on my grandpas 2020 Kubota m4071d. And little did you know it pulls it up hills at 5mph and on flat ground at over 7mph and this is thick thick brome down here in eastern ks. So Kubota has a good good transmission good power. I’d bet money the nh 75 power star couldn’t pull like it can and especially a jd 75e . But a jd75m probably would pull it faster more hp. Good machine there’s videos on the channel showing it in action. We used haybines and sickles for years. Don’t compare to those new discbines. Good video as always.
@yesterdayfarm52733 жыл бұрын
We pull a John Deere 1219 *haybine* with a IH 656 gas *tractor*. Works perfectly!
@Airsoftforall3 жыл бұрын
The metal conditioners will spit a turtle out like a watermelon seed while the rubber ones "tenderize" them. Had a few fly past my tractor!
@Leftatalbuquerque Жыл бұрын
Help, 1190 IH - I need to replace the left side (driver's) lift arm linkage at the front (two plates sandwiched with two shafts, bushings and Rclips to hold it all together) - and I can't get it to line up to the oval access hole. Bottom shaft is ok, it's the top one that is the problem - how to get the arm over to the access opening... The fulcrum cap screw/shaft will not come out - I've tried - something holds in it OTHER than the large Rclip in behind. The rear chain comes off easy. The linkage unit should insert from the inside and point OUT to make it easy for the facer plate and R clips to be put on by a human hand!!! Your site is where I get all my schematics - I have a farm full of 1960's-70's IH implements. Any ideas on how to do it without torching the hole larger?
@TomSmith-me7ph8 ай бұрын
I’m 69 and cut lots of hay with a case 7 foot mower/conditioneer ( made by Heston) . Then upgraded to a Hesson pt10 and we pulled both models with a Case 430.
@Angorawoolwitch6 ай бұрын
I don't suppose you made a video of how to replace the belt on that PT-10, did you? I'll be doing that tomorrow. :( Love the Hesston but I suspect this replacement is going to take a while.
@TomSmith-me7ph6 ай бұрын
I’m sorry, I didn’t make a video of that. I don’t think they had video cameras back then.
@HolyCrapHeDied3 жыл бұрын
I pull a New Holland 472 haybine behind a Massey 135 every year
@petermaguire62803 жыл бұрын
Just a Few Acres Farm uses older equipment an does a great job with them
@billupstateny91513 жыл бұрын
What messick fails to mention is that ALL of the small grains combine heads STILL utilize cutting bar technology
@justinpatrick42513 жыл бұрын
Apples to oranges….
@billupstateny91513 жыл бұрын
@@justinpatrick4251 then perhaps you should stick to the fruit business
@DoctorPrepperMD3 жыл бұрын
If you like a haybine or sickle mower you need to watch Pete over at “Just A Few Acres Farm”
@billupstateny91513 жыл бұрын
That guy Pete is a first class jerk
@farmingnodak3 жыл бұрын
I've got a few vids on my channel. Rowse Double bar mowers
@jackybruckers3 жыл бұрын
@@billupstateny9151 ?
@billupstateny91513 жыл бұрын
@@jackybruckers 💨🚽👀🙊🔙
@mariaamber45083 жыл бұрын
Clearly who is a first class jerk.
@rexmiller63697 ай бұрын
I use a case / International 1190, i love that beast. pull it with a kubota L3800
@case85xtfan333 жыл бұрын
In under forty seconds i would say that the hay bine is the same as caseih 8330 or hesston 1120
@RedIron10663 жыл бұрын
Actually think this one is a rebadged Heston 1090.
@case85xtfan333 жыл бұрын
@@RedIron1066 could be I’ve got a caseih 8330 so that’s what I was comparing it to 👍😎
@johanrunfeldt71743 жыл бұрын
New Holland still has these on their website, for new equipment.
@padave297 ай бұрын
So what I got from this video was that if you don't wanna drop $120k for your setup, and you're not running a thousand acres, this is your huckleberry. I use my haybine with a 50 hp tractor and "make do" with my $20k used tractor. Haha!
@bucklemon99453 жыл бұрын
Used a New Holland 1920 30hp for years to pull a Heston 1091 hay conditioner just like the Gehil in the video.
@TheSnakeman33 жыл бұрын
Really need a tripod. To make better hay at the end of the day - call Messick's!
@MustangsTrainsMowers3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1980’s a young man in southeast Minnesota dropped out of school and started a business selling and hauling hay. One of his ads in the newspaper was: “Hay Ewe”.
@acdii3 жыл бұрын
Well I have not tried it yet, but something tells me my B2410 would have no problem running a JD 1209 that is properly tuned. It runs a NH 273 baler. Not something I plan to do on a regular basis, have a Kubota L4060 HSTC on order for that, but knowing the B2410 can power the implements just confirms the L4060 will have no problems handling it. Fun fact, the NH 273 had a motorized version with a 17HP gas engine on it. 17 HP. I can rotate the 1209 by hand easier than the 273, and it turns easily with the flywheel. Of course HP wont really factor in until it is actually cutting grass and under a load, so properly tuned, meaning all knives are sharp and aligned and the rollers properly spaced, the B2410 should power it OK.
@ddannyable2 жыл бұрын
What exact model is ths hybine? My uncle have one with this exact cutter system shown in this video,but we dont know the moddel. Sry for my english.
@darylsmioth19042 жыл бұрын
For grass hay I prefer a double-action sickle bar over a disc mower. Just as fast if not faster and way better re-growth. Disc mowers butcher the crop and don't cut as clean as a sickle bar. I notice after the hay is picked up my fields look like a well manicured front lawn. With my old disc mower the fields just looked absolutely butchered and not as pretty.
@denisrhodes543 жыл бұрын
can’t beat a NH 499
@fhuber75073 жыл бұрын
Just look at "Just a Few Acres Farm" channel. He has 2 as his main hay cutters. If it's too high for the haybine, he uses a scale bar of similar vintage.
@earlyriser89983 жыл бұрын
good discussion
@robertbryson13 жыл бұрын
Hay what's that over your left shoulder looks like green to me
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