Old-School Meets New-School - Joe's VW Golf mk7.5 - Genesis, DLS, Helix, JL, Brax, Micro-Precision

[@mosiowaty1573]

A very nice install, I love the amps. I was very surprised to discover how much amplification matters for the mids and highs. Running wideband on an MSS3, I swapped my Steg QM75.4 to a much "warmer" (I used to dislike these terms) Sony XM-4020 and felt so relieved I couldn't believe it. I was also surprised to discover there was no change in frequency response, despite so audible change in how I perceive the sound. I talked to ChatGPT about it and found out it might be about transient response, harmonic distortion and intermodulation distortion. So, amplification DOES matter. P.S. Very good wiring, Joe. If it worked, it was good enough :D And of course, kudos to Pssound for organizing it all nicely for the customer.

[@MrWhitley]

nice one joe.was good to meet you at the last show...Can't wait to hear it!

[@chloeleedow7250]

Hope I still have the passion at 70, hope I make to 70 full stop 😂

[@craigbarrett2278]

Fuck.....it's only 13 years away for me now!!!😂

[@eliezernunes9601]

Kkkkkkk 🚗🔈🔉🔊😎🤟🏾

[@eliezernunes9601]

Kkkkk 👉🏽😎🤟🏾🚗🔈🔉🔊🙆🏽‍♂️

[@MrMaxwood]

​@@craigbarrett2278, it's 4 years for me. 😮😢

[@diamondsink2000]

Wish more 70 year olds were like Joe.

[@tcaudiomute]

moved my midbass to the kicks in a seal box . I can assure u guys i will never look at door installation again ! tq peter

[@jondonnelly3]

I considers this but it presents as many problems as it solves.

[@tcaudiomute]

@@jondonnelly3 hi could u please elaborate further ?

[@LenSilvester]

Peter always has the best advice!! I agree 10,000 percent on mid-bass in the kicks vs doors. Living across the big pond in Ontario, Canada, I have never heard one of his builds, but after 3 DIY revisions in my previous Jeep and now 6 months (yeah I’m slow) into my Jeep Gladiator, I’ll keep following (Patreon too) his and Eduardo’s advice/tips/tricks, etc!! Patreon, is worth every penny, think i have watched some content 10+ times.

[@pssound9749]

And i thank you for your continuous support! 😉

[@intelovrlnder6929]

Any pictures of your setup I have a JL curious how it looks and sounds

[@LenSilvester]

@@intelovrlnder6929 yes i have photos. My front end is 3 way Brax, in custom pods and kick boxes, 2-12" JL TW3-D4's under the back seat facing down (sort of a back seat now, lol),

[@intelovrlnder6929]

@@LenSilvester nice I have 3ways in the front and in rollbar plus two 10 subs one on each side. Amps are under front seats but I’m wanting to move them to rear under a false floor. Where can I see your setup?

[@itsanarse]

I just built a 100 litre sealed box for two KEF B139b woofers I'm trying out for rear subs. So far very impressed, very very responsive. I'm not running much power through them for now whilst I'm still prototyping and testing. Full box design to come. "throw anything in and try it" I know you were on about the front sub but, the point stands for all

[@geekay269]

Wish a lot of cars had the room for front subs, but in reality, a sub in the back can be made to kick one in the guts like its up front. I never installed subs up front, only because I value my passengers comfort.

[@pssound9749]

It doesn’t need much space and if you keep it angled 📐, then they can still rest their feet on it with some extra massage.

[@geekay269]

@@pssound9749driver technology has come a long way, i know and understand that. small drivers with a big punch. to paraphrase a question i got asked at Sinsheim Germany back in 2007... "do you modify cars in Australia like we do in Europe?" my reply to a manufacturer was, "the customer would have a heart attack if we told them we need to make modifications to their expensive car". then again, the industry here is full of f-wits, thats why i gave it the two middle fingers back ten years ago. i still have the passion for quality audio in a car, but i cant see myself doing anything to what i own the way i did many moons ago. i would rather buy the right car for the audio, if such a car exists. older cars are much more solid, metal wise, than the plastic cars we have today, and also have more real estate to work with. i just wish we had left hand drive cars in our countries, would make kick panel installs much easier. panel noises drive me mental. also, i still havent taught my kid how to listen to music. thats the biggest reason i wont do anything to our cars, that is, until she asks me to teach her what to listen for (at home first), and then when she tell me that she wants the car to sound like the home system. until then, i'll just relax.

[@geekay269]

what attracted me to your video was golf mk7.5, i have a wagon (aka estate) that ive been thinking about doing something to. one day...

[@MrBazVaghela]

Great looking build, cant wait to hear it at some point and get Joe to have a listen to my Golf 7.5 too.

[@pssound9749]

Yes, that’ll be cool! Side by side comparison! 😃

[@Joe7-ev7ld]

Meet you at the OK coral at noon 😂

[@MiracledetailCoUk]

Love the pillars and front sub I need both ! 😊

[@joewhittle801]

I like the amp layout! Clear and logical. I also like the owners name hahaha enjoy that system sir 🥃

[@cabronesse386]

You've been doing the extra miles constantly on your projects, kudos Peter!

[@pssound9749]

I can’t lie, sometimes it’s very tiring. 😴

[@eliezernunes9601]

Ctz eu que digo já estou a 60 dias no upgrade do meu Golf única diferença não tem este subwoofer na frente e os equipamentos são dois linhas umas da hertz e outro jl audio processador Hertz Dsp s8 por aí se vai mantas etc top show 👉🏽🚗🔈🔉🔊😎🤟🏾👍🏽

[@jondonnelly3]

This is a good install. Especially A pillars.

[@craigbarrett2278]

Front sub option....... Hertz MPS250 slim. 14 litre sealed with 16mm xmax and amazing tone. I used two in a 4th order bandpass.......couldn't believe the result.

[@chloeleedow7250]

When Peter says a bit further 😂

[@ulysees321]

Genesis amps 😍

[@sidnei2017]

Peter, thanks for sharing this project. How much liter did you get in this sealed box for the front subwoofer? The subwoofer responded well up to what minimum frequency?

[@jondonnelly3]

I have a front 8 inch sub and roll off the mid bass a bit higher. It takes a load off the mid bass and cures rattle in the door. It works fine untill I listen to the radio and deep voices drop into the sub. What I need is a headunit that can adjust crossover per source or at least eq. Plus and minus with all choices. Cars are sub optimal for audio.

[@chloeleedow7250]

Love the golf videos 😍

[@R.I100]

Personally I recon the A class of DLS amps are the best amps to this Day that DLS has ever made.

[@007thecookster]

New subscriber here great channel loving the content. I’m gradually working my way through your videos. Always had an interest in audio and drive a truck around Europe definitely fitting a system when my new truck arrives. Do you have any recommendations for 24v amps

[@pssound9749]

Hi, i think Helix from Audiotec Fischer has 24 ones.

[@magnuswf]

I'm currently preparing to move into new grounds with Gladen and Mosconi, and I've seen they make 24v amps and DSPs. I personally can't comment on how they sound but I've heard many good things about Gladen and Mosconi (Mosconi is kinda a sub brand of Gladen)

[@chloeleedow7250]

The golf really is a great sounding platform to begin with too solid build heavy cars. Not so good without proper time alignmentment and sub can have nulls in certain frequencies where they cancel out with the door speakers and without more phase shift options like the hd zapcos have.

[@pssound9749]

You can’t dix those problems with any phase shift.

[@explorinlearnindoing5462]

Hi Peter, My plan was for this aummer to (finally) install my setup with one IB 15 in the trunk, 6.5" in the kicks and 4" with AMT tweeters on A pillars or dash. Now that I watch this (helpfull and informative as always) video I think; there is probably room in in the passenger side floor to the front, for a sealed enclosure for some 11" Vifa dual voicecoil sub that I have laying around... (which with 2 of them went pretty deep, ported) My Helix DSP Ultra can handle it the extra front sub. Is it a good combo with a IB 15 in the trunk? Or better leave the IB out? Its fun to occasionally have the very deepest bass. Which I havent had so far. But overall normally I am for less is more. Like the yellow car with the The End amplifiers... What do you think Peter? I am curious....

[@GanG914]

When and where we`ll be able to hear some of your creations in germany this year?

[@magikl1]

I have a MK7.5 Golf R and have been wanting something more than the crap Fender audio system. Thanks for the Ideas

[@marty_k87]

I have been on the fence about a front sub but video has changed my mind! 😬.

[@laddtryck]

i have never seen dls used outside of Sweden.

[@pssound9749]

Ohh DLS was HUGE in UK and in many countries 15-20 years ago.

[@jitwarsingh1646]

@@pssound9749 A lot of brands from the late '90s/early 2000s don't seem to be around in the UK anymore. Unless you go to a specialist such as yourself or Platinum, you'd think that the only brands available are audison, hertz and focal.

[@ilkkak3065]

Peter for the daily drive car, would you do own tune for the metal music (eg. Battle Beast) or just go with your regular tune?

[@pssound9749]

Rock music can be thin on bass and shouty in upper mid/lower high frequencies, so sometimes that needs slight adjustments especially if you want to listen to music loud too.

[@ilkkak3065]

​@@pssound9749Loud, yes pls

[@BarryWhitfield-dj7xf]

Hi Peter, what's your opinion on underseat IB subs?

[@pssound9749]

Tactile feel maybe distracting, plus location doesn’t give the best loading.

[@alejandrooviedo1981]

I need same Tweeter under $200 What do you recommend SQ Silk Dome....??? 40-70 Watts....???

[@pssound9749]

Steg SQ25.

[@eliezernunes9601]

Olá amigo tudo de bom 👍🏽 Então né parc eu gosto muito de som automotivos e curto em qualidade sonora demais ok Bom não entendo sobre esta onda de colocarem subwoofer na frente não vejo o pq gosstaria de saber sobre mais isto para que serve musica de que tipo ou show em videos ou filmes 🤔

[@pssound9749]

Probably you didn’t understand what we were explaining with the owner, that it’s improvement anyone can achieve to get impactful, clean & tight bass upfront in a car. Consider it as a proper front woofer working in 40/50-80/100Hz range. Midbass plays 80/100Hz ->, rear sub plays below 40/50Hz.

[@eliezernunes9601]

@@pssound9749 ah sim perfeito eu uso somente traseiro dois subwoofer jl audio 10w0v3 e um amplificador jl audio rd500/1e um kits de 3 vias hertz na frente e de 2 vias traseiro eles sao orquestrados por 3 ampificadores da hertz ambos 4 canais e tambem tenho um processador da hertz Dsp S8 os cabos sao da linha connection uma bateria 75 ahp opima multimidia Aikon pro 5g 4gb 65gb etc este meu som do mk7 estes dias comprei da tua loja um controe remoto RBc/1 jl audio dia 24/05/2024 aguardando chegar para mim aqui no brasil ok

[@mrbiggz8526]

Instead of commenting negative comments go find a sq competition and get to know and hear for yourself what it’s all about .

[@paulfretz6777]

I was a very young man when I first heard an sq system, at the time I was a bass head, this was in the early nineties. I was blown away by the things I heard with this system, it changed the way I looked at car audio forever.

[@myboy051]

Purely ignorant comments. Are the ones who comment on something they know absolutely nothing about.

[@farhaadsayed9697]

10 pounds for a single pack of cigs? Really? Thats like 220 rands in south africa!

[@andrewrobbins4168]

Cheapest are actually £11.50 and marlboro is £15 so R350 for a pack :O

[@farhaadsayed9697]

@@andrewrobbins4168 holy shit! I can get a carton of smokes here for that price! Do you smoke?

[@djparra41]

I want to preface this by saying I’m an idiot. I don’t have a KZbin channel so I have no idea what I’m talking about but I know I would really appreciate shorter clips as well as the full length content to make sure I get most of the heavy hitting points without committing 40 minutes.

[@pssound9749]

Sorry, we have no time for fancy editing and content. This channel is the boring one with looong videos. One day we maybe able to please everyone, but for now we’re happy if we can share even this much with the public when we work 12-14 hours most days.

[@Bimmerstye1]

I still have doubts about that bluetooth module. I mean, connected to an Android phone or player with aptX HD support, sure, quality will be decent. With a bitrate of 576kbps it comes close to a regular 16 bit Flac file. But I see you use it with iPhones and iPads. Apple doesn’t support aptX so you’re stuck with the basic AAC codec at about 250kbps. This is less than a decent mp3 file at 320kbps? You always tell us that it all starts with good source material. You’re the reason I started replacing my mp3 collection with FLAC files. But then you go and promote a 250kbps AAC signal over bluetooth? It just don’t makes much sense to me.

[@pssound9749]

For critical listening i use APTX with DAP, but i have Apple devices for daily use. Having the songs in lossless is crucial for sure. True, we can all keep shouting about APTX HD being “only” 576kbit/sec, but it’s also at 24bit @48k. 16 bit provides each sample with 65,536 possible amplitude values. 24 bit provides each sample with 16,777,216 possible amplitude values. As such, 16 bit provides you with 96dB of dynamic range between the noise floor and 0dBFS. 24 bit provides you with 144dB of dynamic range between the noise floor and 0dBFS. End of story is that it’s just as good as old CD quality and you can’t tell the difference with your EARS now vs wired digital connection.

[@Bimmerstye1]

I wasn’t really questioning aptX HD. I agree with you on that. My concerns were more about the fact I’ve seen you use Apple devices with that bluetooth module and those only support AAC. But now you’ve explained that for critical listening you do use aptX it makes sense. Doesn’t AAC sound pretty bad when you use those Apple devices? My car only supports SBC over bluetooth and it sucks big time. Isn’t AAC comparable to SBC? In my car even high res FLAC files sound bad over bluetooth compared to the built-in USB ports. I’m still looking for a way around this so I can use Tidal in the car but so far I’ve come up blank and I’m stuck with USB drives. The car can play and control Tidal. So the functionality is there. It just sounds like crap...

[@pssound9749]

@@Bimmerstye1 interestingly iphone/ipad doesn’t sound that bad with BT. Yes, there is difference, mainly on top-end, but overall it’s not terrible at all. I use the iPad because of it’s Retina display for video playback and most people are amazed by the sound.

[@Bimmerstye1]

@@pssound9749 Unfortunately SBC in my car does sound bad. Also most noticable is the top end that's missing but the entire thing sounds mèh. There is no dynamic range or depth. It just sounds dull and unengaging compared to music played from USB. It's a little better with Tidal now than it was with Spotify before since I'm not compressing an allready compressed file but still. A FLAC file over bluetooth sounds far worse than a 320kbps mp3 over USB. I'm thinking of getting one of the Match P&P DSP amps for BMW. These also support the bluetooth module but I don't know... I had one in the past and it sounded OK but I never got it to sound great tuning it myself. For years I tinkered with it and in the end I never really was happy with how it sounded. That's the reason I kept this car original for the most part. Just to have some peace of mind and just enjoy what I have instead of putting hours of work in it trying to get it to sound a little bit better...

[@pssound9749]

@@Bimmerstye1 i understand your frustration. Where do you live exactly?

[@clubsport_rs5]

That’s my english ME in 30 years…. 😁👍🫶 Still trying to figure out how to get out of a lowered car when I’m old. 😂🙈

[@pssound9749]

You just click on the airride and pump it up! 😃

[@clubsport_rs5]

@@pssound9749seems like the only way 😄🤷‍♂️