Old v. New: Xeon E5-2680 vs. i9-7900X (Sandybridge Wins!)

[@JarrodsTech]

As the owner of a dual E5-2670 system, I didn't expect the results to be that close!

[@Level1Techs]

because numa, the dual 2670 is actually worse for gaming! :D you can use process lasso to pin games to one cpu and see a pretty significant jump in performance though. Plus this was ~ 3.3ghz turbo all cores the whole time on the 2680

[@pjdtechy5734]

thinking of dual E5-2670 with proxmox for workstation/gaming machine into a rack mount case, I am a casual gamer. Is it worth it our should I built two separate machines.

[@postcert]

As long as you don't mind the heat output, dual 2670's are a blast. I wonder if it'd even be worth it when Ryzen 2 releases. As mentioned above though, CPU pinning gives a great boost.

[@FlickExplainTV]

Running a single e5-2670 here. The CPUs a beast. Great for my motiongraphics and gaming. Might just put a 1080 ti since there ain't gonna be no bottleneck

[@mitchell2719]

@Level1Techs can you recommend a good place to learn about NUMA and how to properly use dual socket systems?

[@EposVox]

Very interesting tests. Thanks dude!

[@CrazyLegsFE]

I would love to see this updated for 2022 !!! Cheers Wendell!

[@Bronze06]

A sweet comparison. This gives me an idea ( what to get next ). Awesome video, double thumbs-up!

[@CMDRTeatime]

Probably the best benchmarking video I have seen on the internet - showing actual performance or lack of performance increase between generations. Would have been very interested to see how Threadripper would have compared if thrown into the mix.

[@MidnightBanshi]

I'm glad I saw this video. I just got an AsRock Extreme4 X79 board a bit ago, so may have to scout out an E5-2680!

[@AndreiAldea]

Thanks Wendell! Always nice to see videos like these! I keep being tempted to switch out my old i7 4790K but I really can't justify it right now... except when I want to do things like Linux kernel compilation... where I wouldn't mind 10 cores+ :D

[@Teh509]

That is a remarkable and well grounded piece of tech journalism. The fact that even after all these year's a Sandybridge and decent GPU is still all you need... I used to upgrade my whole systems every 2 years or so from the 90's through to 2011 where I bought a 2500k... unfortunately a financial drought has left me still running my sandy bridge from 2011 but with a 980ti it still smashes 1080p.

[@CheapSushi]

Excellent! I'm using a Ivy Bridge E5 on my X79 rig right now! The one of the few multiplier overclockable Xeons out there!

[@hotnikq]

i'm thinking about build E5 2660 v4 ES processor, did you think just the 16xxV2 and V3 is unlocked?

[@julianfiacconi709]

@@hotnikqFYI v3 and v4 Xeons require a different 2011-3 revised motherboard.

[@Mythricia1988]

I recently built a PC from my "old parts bin", to gift to a kid in the neighborhood who's getting interested in computers and games. Gave him a Core2Quad Q9650, 2GB of RAM (we're gonna upgrade him to 4 or 8 if we can find a cheap kit), and one of my old 780Ti's. A bit of a mis-match of generations, but honestly, it works great. The Q9650 has no problems what so ever with many modern games. He runs Overwatch at close to max settings, well over 60 FPS. He runs Rocket League, maxed out, at like 150 fps. No problems at all with totally relevant, modern titles, using a CPU from 2005, and 2GB of (very fast!) RAM. And that's why I laugh my ass off at people who worry about CPU bottlenecking. My own PC has a 4770k and I see no reason what so ever to upgrade. I hit the FPS-cap in Doom with completely maxed settings, at 1440p just fine. So clearly, getting the data to the GPU fast enough is not a problem, and won't be for many years.

[@UnderLoK]

The last 2 systems I built (920 and 3820) have lasted ages. I'm still kicking it with the 3820 (runs at 4.5 on air with an extra .01v) and a 970 without issue... I do still have the itch to upgrade, but it looks like the only one that would make sense for the next year or so is just snagging a 2680. Thanks for the vid!

[@BrianSuggest]

As a person who went from a Wolfdale (Core 2 Duo) to Haswell (Core i5) and finished watching this... makes me happy that I'll still be rolling with Haswell for several years to come. Thanks for the reminder Wendell!

[@MrFmlouder]

im running a x5650 6 core xeon in my gameing rig o.o

[@BrianSuggest]

Whoa, isn't that nearly 8 years old? Kudos to you!

[@xThePrinceOfPeace]

iam using a fx-8350 which is about 6 years old and its *more* than enough

[@caracalfloppa4997]

The fx-8350 is the exception to the rule that old CPUs are actually pretty good. That chip runs hot, has single core performance worse than my ass, and garbage multi core performance.

[@jakegarrett8109]

749 cb multithread isn't that bad (4.8 Ghz on a cheap $40 mATX board, the board was the limiting factor). Thread for thread, that's about an i7 6700 (non-K), and those cost a lot more. Its still good enough for 4k gaming. I should re-test this, I finally have duel Furys and my 8350 is on my custom test bench, but it was a difficult task getting these 2 massive cards to flex into position in my mid ATX case (had to pry on my case as hard as I could to flex it out of the way, as well as the fan shroud on the bottom card...).

[@masaharumorimoto4761]

My 2500K is still singing happily at 4.2ghz!! and my GTX 560 is also still truckin' along! I'm super happy I picked the right cpu & gpu 6 years ago, saved me a lot of unnecessary side-grades.

[@raywang2061]

Masaharu Morimoto if you had a 7870 it would be actually better

[@chrisdudetechtube]

This video has made me feel a lot better about my i7 3960x. I bought it and an Asus Sabertooth X-79 board in a combo deal on amazon last year for $400 brand new. With 32 gigs of HyperX Beast at 2133MHz and a GTX 1070 I should be good for a while hopefully. Great video.

[@brandonosborne6894]

E5-2670 and i7-3960x owner checking in. I got them both used last year for 75 and 180 respectively. Both worked fine as gaming machines until Ryzen came out.

[@Bugged-pz7fx]

meh

[@arwlyx]

Own both of those, can confirm. E5 for 90 and 3960X for 150

[@ElectricosCosmos]

I ran an X5675 @ 4.3GHz with a 980Ti for a long time. It’s amazing what those old CPUs from 2011 (2008 architecture) can do.

[@t8z5h3]

My last computer was 7 years old and I expect my ryzen 1700x to last about 10 years but with maybe 3 to 4 graphics card upgrades

[@t8z5h3]

NA NA overall 8 cores 16 threads that ideal when I game really shows that the life span will be longer then any other design before and really 4 core 8 thread as defined by Intel will be the standard until they don’t make that processor design

[@wizz3r1o1]

Khaffit no joke. 1700 with a beefier cooler and it clocks up just as high as the 1700x/1800x

[@jakegarrett8109]

The 1800X and 1700X have a higher chance of getting to 4.0 Ghz. Mine according to my graph, it would need 1.70v to hit 4.0 Ghz, and that is WAY too much for normal water cooling. I can pull out my sub zero phase cooler and ice the thing into submission, or I could buy another one (actually Threadripper 1950X is about 1/2 price of a new phase change cooler). So I'm stuck at 3.8 reasonably or only 3.9 for benchmarking before it gets too hot and goes nuclear temps compared to my old FX pulling 300+w.

[@MsHojat]

@El Diablo That's the same thing I've hear 7 years ago yet things haven't really changed much. I can't say that games _aren't_ still going more multithreaded, but it seems to be extremely slow, and still _always_ seems to favor the best 1-2 thread performance CPUs, such as the 7700k

[@t8z5h3]

Mshojat well I been there I jumped on 64 bit with socket 754, did dull core on socket am2 and 6 on am3 now 8 core on am4 I really believe in my path

[@richiec7700]

Wendell, thanks for cluing me in on what the Short Term and Long Term Power Limits are for!

[@danielchambers9334]

Rocked a 3930k till last year (2011 socket). Traded my spinning drive for an ssd and felt like I had left the Dark Ages behind.

[@Najvalsa]

Can't wait to do so myself.

[@MorbusSchmorbus]

having a ssd fpr the first time and booting up the system... a really nice feeling

[@mapesdhs597]

Daniel, if you're using an ASUS X79 board there are now modded BIOS files available to support NVMe M2 SSD booting.

[@danielchambers9334]

Thanks! Warp speed to the fuuuutuuuurrrrreeeee

[@combatantezoteric2965]

do you guys kno if by any chance a first gen xeon e5 2689 or 2690 will work on a asus p9x79 deluxe board?Even if the manufacturer doesnt specify these cpus, I get mixed opinions about it.

[@Jeff-ce3mt]

I had a 4790K in my rig with the intention of using it for at least 5 years, but I gave into the temptation to upgrade to a Skylake ES 6700. But this video helps put into perspective how long my hardware can last, so I probably won't be upgrading for a while (unless I start video editing)

[@XavierXonora]

I had a 3930k a few years back and can confirm it was a beast. Until I upgraded to a 3700X it held most of my benchmark records for single core and I only beat my Firestrike score with a 3930k/295X2 this year with a 1080ti and 3700x. Of all my Intel CPU's it was my favourite.

[@techbuildspcs]

You very lucky man.

[@chuuni6924]

"AVX loads ain't gonna happen on Sandy Bridge" -- In fact, AVX was one of the big news items for Sandy Bridge. :)

[@Beast8383]

could you test please 2680 vs 2680v2 vs 8700x, thank yoy

[@benjaminmcintosh857]

Tf is an 8700x?

[@hikaru-live]

I actually have a dual E5-2680 system... It is a beast. So far my main workload on it is code compilation with GCC and LLVM. It builds a Debian armhf Linux kernel in two to three minutes.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Very good video about the next chipset. Thank you.

[@Narwaro]

Having a dual 12-core Haswell Xeon Server. As you said, large L3 caches help a lot, especially for compiling software, when the same data is needed over and over again. I am currently TENTH on the Phoronix build-linux-kernel benchmark with single channel memory! And the competitors are not 2.3GHz 100W TDP CPUs, but 1950Xes and 32-core Epycs.

[@callenaustin198]

Also keep up the great work guys

[@thisrocks]

Thanks for the comparison!

[@UndieingLust]

Intel 2600k is probably the best value for money CPU you could ever have gotten considering how long it's lasted. It's amazing how it is still very relevant if you don't need any of the more modern features on offer from more modern platforms.

[@adilboos]

i buy i7 3930k for 50 euros

[@BjornCanute]

That title is anti-clickbait. This is why I love this channel.

[@smbu]

Nice video. Makes me glad I decided to purchase a Xeon E5-2680 v2 to upgrade my X79 system instead of purchasing a whole new system, especially since I already have a lot of DDR3 ram. Now I just need to upgrade the video card to something newer.

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

Great video. I'll have to check the prices of these prices around me but knowing how things are people will be asking retail for these old parts.

[@johanneskurz7122]

my x5620 @ 3.8GHz died in July unfortunatly. But that was a perfect reason to move to ryzen

[@DavidSondermann]

Johannes Kurz my X5660 still works @5.2GHz since 2 years. :)

[@abedfo88]

westmere master race

[@HassaanALal]

@@DavidSondermann how 5.2ghz ? thats too much

[@DavidSondermann]

Hassaan A. Lal no, now over 4years without any problems. :)

[@rodrigocasanova3465]

Just a lil notice to people jumping into x79 in 2018 (like myself): Some of chinese x79 boards have ecc registered support and m.2 NVME support

[@johnnybadea]

Yeah... But they only work in dual channel mode (despite some of them having 4 slots) and there is no way to oc with those poor VRMs...

[@binkaram6577]

thanks man i had a complex of buying xeon although its e5-2650 2.0 but still feel better.

[@davidnordberg3317]

Thanks for a great video!

[@DJGrazba]

my old i7 920 still works fiiiiine !

[@Adrian-uc4ox]

Same here. I have an i920 works great. Going to drop it into an unlocked bios for overclocking but additionaly I'm going to upgrade Xeon 5675 and overclock to 4.1ghz

[@ايمن-ب8خ]

not worth it go for sandy bridge or anything after2011 you can get hp z420 rocking xeon e5-1650 overclockable and will last you few more years

[@shaolin95]

@@ايمن-ب8خ an x5650 is super cheap and easily does 4ghz and excellent performance

[@MeatVision]

Same xD

[@pegcity4eva]

get a x5680 for 50 USD

[@theNISK]

I'm running X5650 @ 4.2 GHz, this is making me re-think upgrading my desktop and just get a better GPU (currently have GTX 950).

[@hikaru-live]

Idea: try this Sandy Bridge machine again, but with a Xeon E5-1680v2. That is an overclockable octa-core.

[@8iosatlost209]

But get a mobo which has an bios wich supports Ivy bridge E. Some realy great 2011-R boards like the Intel DX 79 TO don´t have that and the evga x79 classified X lavender mod too. The CPUs work with this boards but you will get problems. The best mobo for the E5-1680 v2 is the asus rampage Iv Extreme. i use this setup this two modules for myself.

[@sakura33777]

all xeon processor IMMORTAL than the newest chip today :D

[@8iosatlost209]

YES this is so true.

[@kispumel]

"AVX not gonna happen on sandy bridge E" . It will, you just have to pick the E5-2687W

[@cosmickatamari]

I love the chill music in the background.

[@Thewickedjon]

subscribed! great stuff!!

[@micdude5736]

Still running an old i7-920, definitely feeling its age but I have no real reason to upgrade since i don't play games anymore or do any kind of hard core editing.

[@GregPace]

I was in your same boat and recently snagged a Xeon X5650 Six Core that I can clock to 4.2GHz with same settings but lower temps than my i7 C0 stepping @ 4.0GHz. Got it on eBay for $15.99 free shipping. Huge performance gains. Edit: Just finished the video, Wendell gives a shout out to the X5650 at the end.

[@seabrookmx]

Same way you overclocked an i7 back on the x58 chipset. With the base clock. Both i7's and Xeons have a lot of OC headroom on that platform. The generation after (Sandy Bridge) is when Intel locked down the base clock, and started charging people extra for 'K' CPU's with the unlocked multiplier.

[@Najvalsa]

Got an X5670 from aliexpress myself, they're overclockable and supported by non-server motherboards even if not officially. A must buy for any LGA1366 owner because they don't have the issue of Bloomfield which is the heat scaling more with the frequency than the voltage. So an i7 920 at 4Ghz 1.25V runs hotter than one at 3.8Ghz 1.35V. Such a dumb thing they had. Anyway, going from a 4Ghz OC on my 950 to 4.4Ghz on something that has 50% more cores/threads, ran 15 to 20C cooler. Again, Westmere Xeons are a must buy for LGA1366 owners, it's just win/win for so cheap.

[@seabrookmx]

SlavjanA My main software development rig still has a 920 in it. Unfortunately my EVGA board is one of the few that won't accept a Xeon. Those X-Series Xeons are definitely beasts though.

[@samin90]

I upgraded my 930 to a 6 core 970 for like $90

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

Figured as much, gonna buy Threadripper for IOMMU and the insane amount of PCIe 3.0 Lanes. Just waiting for the 12 and 16 cores to go down to normal poprices. They are still pretty much at launch price.

[@andzaa]

I own E5-2680 v1 with Intel dx79sr and really love it, still works like a charm. Downside of dx79sr that there's no boot efi option for m.2 pcie, but there's a workaround with fake usb efi boot loader that recognises nvme devices.

[@nathanroe72]

I'm going to wait for Cannonlake and it's successors, fingers crossed that we will see some real gains in performance by then. Still proud to be rocking a 3770k and paired with a GTX1080 feeding a G-Sync monitor.

[@SwissGlitcher]

I hate my 3770K I want something new so bad but I cant justify the upgrade :(

[@lordmuhehe4605]

At least they finally made 4-core i3 and 6-core i5.

[@nathanroe72]

Lord Muhehe Good point. We're finally starting to move in the right direction.

[@nathanroe72]

Swiss Glitcher What don't you like about the 3770k? I know it doesn't overclock well, but I'm currently cooking mine at 4.4ghz.

[@SwissGlitcher]

I didn't mean it like that, I love it, it fits all my needs but I really want to "upgrade" and try something new but I can't find anything else worth upgrading than threadripper or the ridiculous intel chips and I wouldn't even need all the power at the moment.. yeah, I'm really unlucky, cant touch mine at all or the core temp will spike to 90°C on a custom water cooling system :/ might try deliding it to apply new thermal paste, if I fail I've a reason to buy a new platform ;D

[@teddybeddy123]

I have a 3930K on X79. I think I just found my new favourite tech video on KZbin.

[@mapesdhs597]

If you have an ASUS board, check the ROG thread for modded BIOS files to support NVMe M2 booting.

[@saikrishankumar]

Love the video!!!!

[@aceofspades9845]

Old xeons rock. I have been thinking about getting an x299 i5 setup and waiting for xeons to become cheaper, since the i5 7740x got it's price cut down.

[@righteousone8454]

Intel CPUs were amazing, like finding gold back in the day. Now they tell you exactly how much gold you have. Still great, but far from what it used to be. The overclock potential is not the same. Intel's old chips fascinate me, but I have i9 9900k. I did buy x58 platform and Xeon x5675, it ran about 10-20 fps less than i7 8700k in my tests. That tells you how good overclocked x58 was/is/will be. It also had AVX instructions, so you could still run AVX based games, like Rainbow Six Siege

[@kopasz777]

Another difference is the new mesh interconnect skylake-x uses instead of the ring-bus.

[@mattr.9167]

He makes 7 years sound like "once upon a time, in a land far far away". Jeez dude

[@Honeypot-x9s]

as someone who has a E5-2690 and a E5-2670 (both first versions) workstation i picked up for free (dell precision T3600 systems with T7600 power supplies) i 100% agree here. where this falls short however will be things like premier pro because premier pro favors clock and IPC + cores.. but for gaming even 1333Mhz ECC ram in quad channel it is fine however i strongly suggest getting 1600Mhz ddr3 at least.. i since upgraded my E5-2670 rig from 1333Mhz to 1600Mhz ddr3 and it just makes gaming little more smoother, i dont think you will see any better fps just little smoother though like fewer missed frame times and less waiting on hardware I/O and stuff like that... my E5-2690 rig makes up for its lower speed ram with higher speed clock, but i imagine it be same result, extra smoothness with 1600Mhz ram vs 1333mhz in it now.. ill also add to this, if all you want is a system to target 60fps gaming, dont need ultra eye bleeding fps.. these xeons are totally acceptable.. just make sure you get 1600Mhz ram and put it in quad channel for extra bandwidth, get nice cooler like noctua U4 server cooler or a AIO liquid cooler, pair it with a modern GPU and you wont be dissapointed at all..only down side is the heat it will put off and power it will draw..i found my E5-2690 in most gaming loads like gta 5 when paired with a mid ranged card like 1060 or 480 pulls around 300-400 watts give or take floats around a bit...

[@ironspear5099]

I have dual e5-2690 paired with 120mm AIO and those beasts goes on 71 C on full load. I also have GTX 1080 and 1600 non ECC ram

[@tbob2224]

I run a 1660@4.7ghz 1.3v with 32gb paired with 2400mhz DDR3 11-11-11-24-1t and a GTX 1080. It is still quite a blazing system and really does quite well in Premiere.

[@CheapSushi]

I really don't see 1333MHz being "fine". I have an E5-1680V2 and at 64GB 2133MHz on an X79 2011 board. For ECC, I'd want as bog standard 1600MHz as you mentioned.

[@danlinhqn93]

So nice Video, so in here u have E5-2680v2 or E5-2680v3 ?

[@KibitoAkuya]

Isn't there also the diference of Sandy Bridge using a ring bus and Skylake X using a mesh?

[@danbuffington75]

1:11 really clever cinematography

[@OTechnology]

Which is why I got a Broadwell-E! Last iteration of Sandy Bridge-E

[@Ramy.9]

Rocking an OCed i7-3820 it's doing great I really don't feel like I need an upgrade anytime soon

[@maxwellbenson7325]

You can pick up Xeon's super cheap. I was going to build a Threadripper server, but now that I've seen so many good things about Xeons, and this seals the deal. Xeon server + Volta for this year is my goal.

[@laureanoalfaro9351]

I'm using a not that old X99 mobo, and two years ago I've bought a 12-Core Intel Xeon E5-2676 v3, (which gave me mainly 40 PCIe lanes) that I even managed to use in Turbo mode by using a modded Bios (yet I had to leave that extra juice becasue of using a new NVMe SSD that needed the latest BIOS)...I'm tempted by what the new Threadripper 2 might bring to the table, but at the same time I dunno if it is out there a more or less cheap old Xeon that I can grab my hands on better than the one I've already have? I did some short research and I only found still pretty expensives ones, or even expensive Boradwell E ones that do not tempt me at all.

[@Live-Stream-Archives]

I love my E5-2698A v3 *(16C/32T @ 2.8GHz Base / 3.2GHz all-cores)* and never going to get rid of it! :) (Used for video rendering)

[@thunderstrike2162]

can you tell how did you get it 3.3ghz turbo all cores the whole time?

[@combatantezoteric2965]

do you have the cpu? If yes I cant help you. but if not then just get a 2689 at *less* money and with 3.3 GHz all core turbo boost. Search on Aliexpress.

[@spacecadet2827]

i have an ivy bridge-E and they will prise it from my cold dead hands

[@StalewindFarto]

That getto Trek T, I will have to check myself. Yup still here.

[@potapovus]

Cool video and nice t-shirt btw)

[@XtremeConditions]

If you wanted to go even cheaper than this, even the Xeon X5600-series CPU's from the generation prior are extremely capable and a whole system can be build for almost nothing! Great for a nice home file server, or heck, maybe even a less demanding small business environment. No joke, a whole system could be put together for under $200. It's insane!

[@nerdbot4446]

I'm still using an i5 760 and it's ok for what I use it (surfing, coding, some minor games). No need to upgrade so far. I like this, more money for important stuff

[@mapesdhs597]

Good CPU, oc's easily to 4.4. I tested 7970 CF with a 760, it was only 10% slower than the same GPUs with a 5GHz 2700K, not bad at all. P55's low latency structure probably helps.

[@SimillionMedia]

I'm one of those guys rocking an X5650 at stock speeds and i'm still ok with it. It's very fast for day to day use, gaming, rendering, cad etc.. Sometime's the latest and greatest tech isn't necessarily the best for the price!

[@prodeous]

Currently dual E5-2687W V1.. so it feels that I'm fine for a bit.. maybe upgrade to V2 in the near future... Cool. More money for GPUs :-). Big thanks for the video

[@josephkelly4893]

4 years into the future. Still rocking lga2011 processors

[@patrickwaterman4959]

great video bro, i still have a hp z600 with dual xeon x5650.

[@junkerzn7312]

That's quite a surprising result. Even though the DDR3 in the Xeon probably has lower latency, the 7900X's DDR4 has 50% more memory bandwidth. However, the Xeon should have three DIMMs per channel while the 7900X has only one (I think), which might significantly improve random memory accesses on the Xeon (both have 4 channels). The Xeon has a pidling 2MB of L2 and 20MB of L3, while the 7900X supposedly has 10MB of L2 and 14MB of L3. The L1 is basically the same on both. It's possible that what we are seeing here might be windows-related or specific cpu optimizations made by the games, and not so much the raw cpu parameters. The Xeon must have some sort of latency advantage somewhere, but I don't know where. -Matt

[@khanscombe619]

I'm still rocking an ASUS P9X79-E WS. Had the E5-1660-0 out the box w/ G.Skill Trident X Quad-Chan 2400 Cl10 T1 it was brilliant to ASUS Ai Tune to 4.2GHz. (4.6 w/ tweak) & added the Strix 1080-Ti & later the E5-1680-V2 was a nice upgrade. Very overclockable beyond 4.2 & able to use SpeedStep . I was impressed the S3 sleep still works. This felt modern side by side to my X99-E WS w/ then i7-5960X

[@thebrainfan]

The RGB memory makes all the difference :). I have a E5-1620 and still works great.

[@mmvsn]

Still happy with my 3930k. Got the same sabertooth mobo and corsair cooler too! The corsair is a bit loud and it's so old I'm afraid it's going to fail soon.

[@twatcrash1595]

I would agree! I still use sandy bridge xeons.

[@ForkTheSpoonWrecker]

Im sure if the graphic settings were raised, we would see different results.

[@kesamek8537]

Great video thanks, awesome.

[@highvis_supply]

The max turbo boost on all cores mod doesn't work on V2 xeons, it only works on V3 and V4(?)

[@jacee7612]

The i7 3820 is a Quad, that E5 2680 is an 8. I used the Sandy and Ivy E chips all the time, killer chips!

[@zerphase]

Could you make a video on compile times for Unreal between haswell-e and Skylake e?

[@nicholaslepp1502]

what are the chances my dell t3600 was tweaked to run at turbo all the time? because it seems to when referencing the windows task manager and i'm not aware of how to change it and im going from a e5-1603 4-core 4-thread to a e5-2665 8-core 16-thread and wouldn't mind turning it off to see if it draws less power... help would be greatly appreciated

[@ITasIsee]

I've never accepted the premise of Intel's pricing or purported performance since Sandy Bridge. In fact Sandy Bridge left a lot on the table able Nehalem. Personally I enjoy an X5660 on an Asus board with a GTX 970 4GB and long for nothing. Getting tired of the hype over 4K gaming. If you have to spend a grand on a CPU and almost as much on a GPU to achieve it then how many people are really doing that. And how does a $500 console do it unless it's just an up scaling 1080p gimmick. Don't buy into hype, Intel has enough money.

[@FFFan3445]

A lot of the Xbox One X games run at sub-native resolutions, not true 4K, and if your CPU can play a game well at 1080p, it can do so at 4K. It's completely bottlenecked by GPU, unlike framerate, which is reliant on GPU AND CPU. I agree that 4K isn't worthwhile, but it is something worth looking into out of curiosity. I'm rocking a 34" 3440x1440 IPS monitor and a 24" 1080p 144Hz VA monitor, they pair really well with my Ryzen 7 1700 and 1080 Ti. No real interest in 4K, I had a 4K monitor back in 2014 and it was just not worth it. Had to up the Windows scaling for my eyes to not strain, and I had 22 year old young-man eyes. It looked cool in games, sure, but it was just too much.

[@ironspear5099]

I am rocking a dual E5-2690 on Supermicro X9dai mobo. How can improve thing in bios (if there is any improvements) to get better results in gaming? Thanks Wendell

[@rodrigomendes3327]

Clocks? Memory? This should be on description. I hardly belive that 2680 and it's poorly low clock can be faster than any 4/8 from 2016 until now.

[@oogrooq]

Holy Crap! I have a 3930k (originally with a 560 ti) x79 deluxe. Could I throw a 10 core Xeon in there? I'm gonna do some lookin'.

[@joenodden]

Probably too late but any 10 core suffers in single threaded performance. Go for an 8 core.

[@sabbathian]

I am still on i7 970, and there is really no need for me to upgrade... it is old, but it still kicks ass

[@robodukk]

I upgraded from an i5 3570k to a xeon 2670 about a year and a half ago because although gaming was ok with the i5 it really wasn't up to some of the music production I do and I needed the extra cores. I got the 2670 running at about 3.3Ghz boost which was perfectly fine, but about 6 months later when I saw they had more than doubled in price since I bought it and on ebay were roughtly the same price as a 3960x at that time I counldn't resist... So I sold the xeon and bought the i7. Although it has less threads, the extra 1Ghz or so makes up for it. In terms of the x79 platform the main barrier to entry used to be the price of the boards (I paid £200 for mine a couple of years ago) but you can get good ones for about £90 now. It's not even like they lack any features over the current intel offerings other than M.2. Unbelievable value

[@ItIsNot1984]

So bored, I reply to 3 month old comments... I've been on fence about 3960x or e5-2680. What you think? Looks like you would go for the X? I'm thinking the X will give me a better mix of gaming and video editing.

[@ArchMnemonic]

I knew I should have kept my Sabertooth X79. Haswell-E is nice and all but I could have saved a lot of money by upgrading to that Xeon.

[@obvious_humor]

Mnemonicman Just wait a year or two when the 2011v3 Xeons start getting decommissioned. Most of the E5-2670s/80s that flooded eBay were because Facebook was upgrading its servers.

[@ArchMnemonic]

Might do that but already snagged a dual socket 2011 board for $200 so I'm gonna put more ram on that for now.

[@righteousone8454]

shows how amazing old xeons were

[@usamadar4827]

Still are brother I've been using xeon e3 1246 v3 with rx 580 and its amazing performance for the price

[@mamdouh-Tawadros]

I have a couple of e5 2690 in my hp dl380 g8. For the server environment the L2 cache gives snappier response than the L3 cache. Whether or not that affects the video handling I am not sure. That is the premise that AMD opteron CPU works on in a server environment.

[@technotarius4444]

This Sandy Bridge generation and other latest Intel processors after update microcode with Foreshadow patch has massive performance hit when HT support disabled by OS.

[@JoshLester1]

Still running an overclocked 3770k and yet to find a cpu worth upgrading to for gaming and general use!

[@mdocod]

FYI, the 7900X doesn't have any hardware accelerated video decoding capability either.

[@dababy7426]

Buying one soon

[@marshdjmarsh]

Do you have a link to a resource for all core turbo on the e5?

[@marcsayer278]

I build systems all the time using older 6-core Xeons. Mostly X5670s and e5-1650s. They overclock really well, generally in the 4.2 to 4.6GHz range, which makes performance per dollar very good. With a GTX 970, Passmark scores range from around 4000 to 6000 depending on specs. The 5670s will bottleneck a 1080 but the e5's really don't in most cases. The 5670s are pretty well balanced with a 970 or 980. It is very hard to argue with the performance from a chip that runs ~$30 (X5670) to ~$80 (1650)

[@hoskadagaming]

you still build system need ask you for someting about e5-2680 v4

[@VAX1970]

Trek yourself before you wreck yourself - 'Live long and don't get shot!'

[@e2298sg]

Would it be worth it to build a new system around this if I do a lot of compiling? I do game but just 1080p@60hz and don't really care a lot for maxing out settings.