(old video) Cold Start! 6Hp Sandow Hit and Miss Engine #2

[@nagygabor6068]

Very good video and sound ! Byg like Man 👍 Nice engine !

[@ansonstelmak9783]

Better than a parade😇. Great camera coverage.

[@ВикторКовалев-с5ч]

Нихт ферштейн.

[@williamdecker732]

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[@markmaker2488]

Hit and miss engines have to be the best sounding engines ever, they all have their unique song that they play and this ones a beauty!

[@jamesshanks2614]

Back in 56 there was an old man at the end of my road who wasn't on the grid, was still using kerosene lamps when I first met him and a dry cell battery powered radio in the living room. Outside in a shed was an old hit or miss engine hooked up to an open frame D.C. Generator. I asked why he didn't use it and his reply was my pappy would keep my bottom warm if I touched it so I don't touch it. I asked where his dad was and he looked a long time and finally said he passed away four years ago. So the responsibility for the engine falls to you then. After near ten minutes he asked ever run a hit or miss engine? Nope. Come on I'll teach ya how to care and run her. Took us near 4 hours until he looked at it for the thousandth time and and quietly said " you dummy" . I thought he was talking to me until he said no, that was me talking to myself. The magneto had a lever that flipped up and I was told it was a long ago repair his dad did to get her going again and when he pointed it out we had been trying to start her without the magneto firing once! He dropped the lever into position and several turns of the flywheel and off she went with a loud bang and a lot of smoke. It settled down after a bit then he threw the flat belt over the pulley for the generator and up came the light bulb in the shed! There were 2 old 6 volt car batteries off to one side and he said they charged up and ran the lights at night, i from hanging around a local Gulf station knew how to remove the caps to check the acid level and they were low so I added water from the well to bring them up to the ring in each cell and after he turned on the generator the old meters read 8 volts and showed a charging rate of 12 amps. The engine settled down to a nice bang, bang, bang on every other revolution and then his wife showed up at the door and said " the lights on in the kitchen! ". An hour later over a slice of chocolate cake and a glass of milk his wife said they hadn't had electricity since his dad died as he refused to touch it then asked what did you say to get him to start it? When I told her she laughed and said if I knew it was that easy I'd have said it 4 years ago. I'd visit every day in the summer to oil and grease her up before he started her. He lost his wife in 58 and he finally passed in 86. Every time I visited from that first day I learned something about farming animal husbandry how to store ice so it lasted till the following winter. Everybody in town ignored him saying he was just an old crackpot because they stuck to the old ways and when electricity was run down their road in 47 they refused the offer to hook up when they found out how much money it would be a month. They were quoted $3.00 a month and his dad refused saying that will buy a lot of kerosene to run my generator for 5 months. Kerosene was in 56 7 cents a gallon and was delivered by a tanker truck to the 2 55 gallon barrels they stored it in. The hit or miss engine used roughly one gallon of fuel every 2 days. He only ran the engine 4 hours a day to charge the batteries. What surprised me was the date on the batteries, AC Delco October 1938. He finally bought a new set of batteries in the summer of 57. I haven't thought of that old couple in years, funny how an old hit or miss engine brings back the memories. Cheers!

[@brianm572]

Cool story.

[@carius007]

That’s a beauty story! Thanks! 🍺

[@VinnyMartello]

Thank you for sharing that with us!!! God bless ya man. Every young feller should have an old man in his life who teaches him things.

[@PacificNorthwest360]

Thanks for this 🤗🌲🌲 Cheers Olympia WA

[@TylerLL2112]

That was a fantastic read!

[@danielfouardlibertarianono8017]

When I was in my early 20s I lived in a tiny dying town called Roxbury KS. There were oil wells all around the town. And at night we could hear the hit and miss engines on the pumpjacks. I would drive out and watch them for hours. I love it. And GOD bless you brother!

[@twcaldwell1951]

I grew up in SE Oklahoma, the engines on the oil wells ran continuously 24-7. It was a sound I was born to.

[@slowpoke96Z28]

Damn, all along, I thought that was a girl...

[@Team-fabulous]

The health and safety people would have a field day with this nowadays..... What a fantastic old engine, full of character.....

[@ralphmctell5210]

Okay indeed! no commentary needed, the engine took care of that. Great video, engine oozes it history, and the operator sure knows how to coax her along. Fantastic....

[@northernmichigamotorsports]

I love all the comments from folks who know nothing about these engines telling you what you do 😎

[@sinistershenanigans965]

Northern Michigan ATV/UTV/MC/SNO how do you know thay know nothing!!

[@brianmason9803]

We can all learn from others.

[@georgewillems32]

Strange......people just assume that other people know nothing. And think that this is a fact! Eeer......how do THEY know that!

[@marshalllhiepler]

Well, lets not be completely negative, and declare all of the uneducated comments false. Truthfully speaking, they seem to be hit or miss.

[@fjb4932]

Not being a dentist, i still know more about dentistry than about starting this machine. Having said that, i'd be tempted to figure out where all the controls and levers, etcetra need to be at to get her to start and run, and then put in just enough fuel to run until i wanted her to stop. Run it out of fuel and next time just add enough fuel and crank'er over till she starts and runs with out all the readjustments and fiddle-faddling about ...

[@hezekiahvanfarthinghorniii8042]

Love it....best part is the barn cats wandering around completely unbothered by the noise or activity!

[@mattberg916]

I need to dig mine out and get her going. Such a soothing experience to be around old critters

[@mattcuddy814]

Nice perseverance. Maybe next time fill the grease cups on the mains, then put some oil in the cylinder oiler too! You know your way around old stuff, like it wasn't delatching. Neat motor, I have a Stover hit of miss rig with a big beautiful Webster on it, all black and gold.

[@theluth9046]

In cold weather we always heated some water and poured it in the hopper, seems to warm the cylinder up making starting easier, well at least it worked for me. Love your engine, your very fortunate to own a beauty like that! Thanks for sharing!

[@cruddycornstalks]

you would want to be carefull doing that because to hot of water on cold iron makes it crack and break otherwise yeah it helps alot when done right

[@theluth9046]

@@cruddycornstalks yes, warm, not hot, you are right about cracking, there ain't a worst sound then cast iron cracking on something you love! Lol!

[@brianbumgardner8704]

Outstanding job keeping this old engine running!

[@sjflynn2010]

Young lady knows her way around the old machine. Good job

[@JasonSmith-vd1sz]

What a neat old engine. Thanks for sharing.

[@joebloe9901]

I would put that engine in my bedroom and sleep like a baby to that sound.

[@VinnyMartello]

Am I crazy? I want to own one of these things just for the purpose of firing it up in the morning and listening to it while I enjoy my coffee. I can't explain it to y'all just the puttering of an old babbit-pounder is music to my ears.

[@philhall5609]

Great video!!!!! You show a lot of knowledge about the old engine for such a young man . Hope we have more young men that understand mechanical things as you do. Thanks for the video.

[@markkimbell8994]

Love to find an old gas pump like the one you have sitting they are rare around here

[@joekirk167]

I uesd to use one of those when I was a kid to put rice coal in a silo that belonged to Wally Korts. It started a lot easer than that I was onlly 14-15 years old and was hauling coal from Keyser ave by Scranton Pa . I was driving LJ Mack with 16 foot dump trailer. Didn't get a license till I was 16. Those were the days. God Bless America

[@m.o.f9802]

Same

[@cedainty]

That engine's rhythm is mesmerizing!

[@stuffthings5890]

ahhh . that's beautiful as is . i could fall asleep listening to a hit n miss run because it's music to my ears .

[@bogywankenobi3959]

Another spring on that flyweight would help it run better at idle.

[@colemichael7409]

Fantastic video like to see people trying to keep these hit and miss engines alive

[@aliceblankenship781]

Looks like something Roy Comstock would come up with and have the stuff on hand to make it.

[@someoneelse7629]

I just love old hit and miss engines, but they run and sound much better with a little load on them. They are pretty uncommon here, as the hotbulb diesels was more popular here (and I love those too) I would love to have one in the yard to start up once in a while, maybe power a saw and a woodchopper just for fun.

[@mikeandhev]

Oddly satisfying to listen to and see this engine in action. Great video!

[@philipmcdonagh1094]

Easier than getting me going in the morning. Easy to see how it got its name.

[@kleetus92]

Learned a fair amount in watching you set it up.

[@tcmtech7515]

Fuel bowls have been around for over a century now and we have yet to invent a gasket that works reliably on them.

[@cruddycornstalks]

it would hold up better if it wasnt taken off to make sure water didnt sit in it all year. otherwise cork works well.

[@TylerLL2112]

cruddycornstalks I have a ‘85 Evinrude 2hp that had a cork float. I was going to restore it but, was told they were dipped in lacquer and the ethanol will eat it up and it won’t work so I replaced it with a new float. Still kept the cork because it’s cool! Now, THIS thing you have is really cool! Such a hypnotic sound.

[@bdi11000]

@@TylerLL2112 epoxy coat cork. works good.

[@CitroenDS23]

Excellent video, thank you for putting it up. I appreciate the rawness of just the mechanical sounds.

[@89RASMUS]

I used to lean like that over rotating things too, until a friend of mine sent me a clip of a russian man literally getting ripped to pieces by a lathe. Awesome engine though.

[@electronicshelpcare]

wow, that calls old is gold. thanks for your video

[@TheOldKid]

Better than any music on the radio

[@steveendres9484]

Ohhh that beautiful old engine hit & miss sound great work engine that never die can go over 1,000 years or more.... Good ol' live old engine that beauty... well done keep look after the engine forever on ur next generation well look after good old engine... Good luck enjoy love old engine

[@stevethackery9853]

Lovely engine and a very interesting video - thanks! There appears to be a spring missing between the two governor weights. I can see a pair of unused eyes for one. With just one spring it's unlatching the push rod at too low a speed - there's no way it would run with any load.

[@gunrunner4637]

Really enjoy this style of engine sounds so much better than the ones now

[@runningbear1982]

Came for the hit and miss and stayed for the cat.

[@donaldwalker6477]

👍👍👍👍👍 enjoyed it fixing to buy my first one of these

[@tyrssen1]

Old flywheelers are so cool!

[@stonedsavage7814]

My ex girlfriends dad owns a woodmill and he challenged me to start the old hit and miss oh boy it was one hell of a serious challenge then he told me it had not been started for over 5 years since upgrading to diesel with a electric starter. It only powered a water pump for log transport it blew my mind

[@scotw1507]

Osha approved arm ripper offer. If the governor wasn't having an issue it would have kept going on the first pull.

[@PacificNorthwest360]

OSHA = Pu$$y C.U.N.T.S. Cheers Olympia WA

[@benjigray8690]

@ 2:22 I see your "supervisor" arrived to keep an eye on you, he has the best fur coat.

[@John-oe5nb]

I would love to restore that engine. Nice and shiny like new.

[@travisrobinson3613]

I could watch one of these run all day long.

[@fredtrent9]

If you're a bank robber, don't use this in your getaway car. :)

[@qaisurrehman7106]

the sound is so pleasing

[@madmanmapper]

So I'm guessing the governor was stuck or that spring wasn't attached? Or maybe the springs are weak? (Or maybe there's only one spring when there should be two?)

[@robobloxgamer524]

It seems those old one lungers will run on just about anything, except modern fuel with ethanol. When I was a kid I worked for a used farm equipment guy. We'd get one of those engines every 2-3 months. They were a lot of fun to see if they would run. I wish I had kept some of them.

[@cruddycornstalks]

you actually couldn't be more wrong with ethanol. this engine will run it better than most any engine out there. We run E10 and E15 in everything we own since it was realesed without any side effects. E85 is sometimes used in flywheel engine because you can tune them on the fly to run best with it. and if you leave E85 in a tank it just evaporates and won't have anything left to go stale. E85 is great if the engine does have rotten gas in it because it will eat rotten gas and help clean tanks and carbs. back in the 1910s and 20s they had low octane gas and sometimes distillates so there's no reason they can't run alcohol now the way they did when they needed to then. there.

[@robobloxgamer524]

@@cruddycornstalks OK, color me wrong. I was going off of the problem he was having starting the engine and the problems I've had with my small engines getting crudded up from the ethanol if not run regularly. Just wondering if you have a dog in this quail hunt, with a name like cruddycornstalks, do you grow/sell corn to make ethanol?

[@cruddycornstalks]

@@robobloxgamer524 alot of what small engines have problems with isnt just the ethanol its the ethanol being badly tended to. either getting water or sitting exposed to air to long. if its in a well sealed water free system it works quite well without any problems. most people just are not the bright or know well enough to do so.

[@elieddy8679]

Finally got myself a Sandow 1 3/4 hp one.

[@bdi11000]

sandow medium blue color.

[@craftsmancraftsman8329]

Listen to that all day

[@thephilpott2194]

What a beauty. Probably never been apart- which does show in it's behaviour! 5 year gty expired unfortunately...

[@cruddycornstalks]

its been 100% apart when we bought it. i think it was mildly stuck when my dad got it. i need to machine a few parts to reduce noise on it in the following years though.

[@appalachiantony7483]

Great job.I like watching the starting and the brains of my outfit (my wife) loves your cats!

[@Core2QX]

wow without music, sounds like ASMR.

[@cruddycornstalks]

now if only i had the money to get a good stereo recorder to make it even better.

[@dajoway]

I love your hit and miss engine!

[@cruddycornstalks]

Thank you!

[@garywhite3264]

It's alive! Breathing!

[@marshalllhiepler]

The exhaust note at 12:25 sounds like me, filing my toenails.

[@HunterRavenShow]

Nice video!! Thanks for sharing.... A.E.V. 😊

[@georgewillems32]

Love those auld engines!

[@-yeme-]

I like the cats in the background, just doing their cat stuff. the one that gets up at 4:29 has no tail D:

[@racer927]

It's probably some sort of bobtail.

[@wishusknight3009]

9:14 Bye! lol That made my day. Would a tighter spring hslp it idle a little better?

[@websitesthatneedanem]

More of a ' Hit and Miss and miss and miss and miss and miss and miss and miss and miss engine!'

[@Theyrun]

Enjoyed the video. I have a few 1.5HP Hit and Miss Engines but only one 6hp, it's a John Deere early 20's

[@VintageEngineRepairs]

A delightful video, thank you for sharing it with us! You’ve got a new subscriber!!

[@masterdebater8757]

Seems like it would be fairly easy to get that gasoline tank cleaned and lined.

[@carius007]

Pretty cool video! I love these old engines, subscribed. Thanks! 🍺 cheers from Maple Ridge BC

[@Nostrildomus]

A quarry down on the river would pump overnight . Can't imagine anything else it would do . Guess a light load is all it needs now . T/C/E

[@MichaelCooley-le4zb]

That's the least "hitting" hit and miss ive ever seen

[@AnandKumar-ym9yw]

Their sound is amazing. 😍😍

[@HOGRANCHgeorgegabriel9538]

NICE OLD ENGINE, NOW MAKE IT RUN

[@walterhynson2898]

Nice video and do not worry you do know what you are doing.

[@philhall5609]

Very good video!!!!! Nice engine!!!!!

[@ogreunderbridge5204]

Not sure what happened here in Europe, I dont see any of those around. Maybe we had less iron afforded to let alone to rust. I´d like to have one. Closest I find is 2 stroke semi diesels. These seem to make sense for pumps, generators and such. Could be a nice project to build one, maybe throw in a boxer config... Do you have a recommendable source of hit & miss mechanical principles and model documentations, workshop manuals etc ?

[@ginstar3]

What is this old engine used for?

[@thomasyoung2458]

Well done you persevere brill sound thank you.

[@Sebi076]

Is that it? I saear its supposed to go faster, by the end of the video it had such a weak going. Are you sure thats its normal rate and are you sure thats its normal rate of combustion?

[@michaelcoker3197]

I liked the cats,

[@RobertFay]

I am guessing, if there is the resistance of a load on the pulley wheel, then does the hit N miss cycle to firing every stroke ? How does it "count" to know when or how to fire? Does it not "count" but rather fire only when the governor determines the RPM is too low?

[@terry6131]

On the left flywheel are 2 weights which are pivoted just on the inside of the flywheel. As the weights throw out due to centrifugal forces, it acts on the pivot to move an arm in or out. The arm is linked to a U shaped shell which moves up and down the crank shaft, but only slightly, maybe 6mm max. Also connected to the shell is another lever which is also pivoted, the end of which holds the exhaust bar (the one that runs front to back) open or closed. This bar is spring loaded and always wants to be pushed backwards but the arm latches and keeps the exhaust open, hence the 'miss'. When the speed drops, the weights relax, the first arm moves the crankshaft governor shell which moves the 2nd lever outwards or away from the exhaust bar, thus allowing the bar to go further back closing the exhaust port to make a vacuum to suck in fuel. As the arm goes forward (as the end hits a cam on the geared cogs - see video) it then trips the contactor (think points and sparkplug), spark ignites the fuel and you have a hit. Governor weights fling out holding the levers in the closed position and the cycle repeats. I have a 1925 hit and miss and the principal is the same.

[@RobertFay]

@@terry6131 Thank you for the precision of your succinct tutelage.

[@simonframpton7090]

Couple of tweaks and a new spring and away she goes

[@rich-qz1xj]

Ya need a heftier governer spring so you dont gotta help it through the compression stroke.

[@cruddycornstalks]

it has just enough to run on its own once you get it working correctly. it just took it a bit to work right.

[@gtb81.]

@@cruddycornstalks looks like it's actually missing a spring, on the other side of the weights

[@cruddycornstalks]

@@gtb81. it has most of the springs removed and the ones left replace to run slow. very hard to get a slow idle set with both springs. some engines you can remove both. but it really depends on the engine. now that it is warmer out it will run with less tension since oil is thinner. thats why the coast didnt work well in the cold because it was set for slow idle at warm weather. good catch though.

[@gtb81.]

@@cruddycornstalks yeah, tho usually they run between 500-750 rpm, i noticed the show idle and the long rundown on it

[@cruddycornstalks]

@@gtb81. if i seen this running 750 id jump behind awall.. this had a max speed of 600rpm for max workload. they really run better and smoother slower . and make a better display if you are not working them at a slower load. you dont keep a modern engine at 3600RPM at all time .

[@rustybum2]

Absolutely fascinating ! Wish I had one of these. That tiddly-donk-tick-tick is very hypnotic. Enyoyable, relaxing video, thanks.

[@gabrielvieira6529]

Really nice engine

[@tcmtech7515]

Black cat @ 5:05 has no tail! Guessing it's on life 6 - 7 by now?

[@cruddycornstalks]

manx gene born that way!

[@smitajky]

I am sitting here on a hot summers day (44 C) so I was wondering why the engine should be hard to start at 35 (C).

[@markmitchell450]

Very low compression and originally ran on kerosene which is harder to ignite once its got hot it will run all day on virtually no fuel as you can see it only fires once enough compression and fuel has built up

[@alexdynamo4248]

Больше всего мне понравились ваши 🐈!!!

[@johnblecker4206]

That gas leak my just be do to a cold stiff o ring.

[@TheRealBigSwede]

Wy not clean the gas tank?

[@markcollins5026]

Man, cool ass engine, what was it originally used for !

[@cruddycornstalks]

anything the farmer could belt it to that he needed to make turn.

[@kennybrunette2693]

U think that the steeol gas tank with rust in the gas line should be tank replaced and the gas lines cleaned or replaced with new lines, if it has a spark plug should be replaced with one that is new, but its your workout trying to get iit started

[@cruddycornstalks]

gas line is just fine and not much loose rust. most of what was in the bowl was water. no spark plug only the same igniter it had from the factory 100 years ago working as good as it did back then.not much of a work out considering it took under 10 minutes to start.

[@Saulatis]

Nice cats you have

[@MDAdams72668]

nice to see a woman that knows how to run an old hit or miss

[@stephenrocks7004]

Hate to get in a fight with the “hit N Miss” girl

[@loopmichaelvalentine8273]

Your supposed to do all the tinkering before hand"

[@leopoldoayala4166]

Se necesita que funcione a una velocidad más uniforme, porque si varía tanto de velocidad máxima inmediatamente después de la explosión, a casi velocidad nula en la siguiente explosión, no sirve entonces para mover maquinaria

[@tcmtech7515]

So I walk out to my garden tractor and turn the key then have to pull the choke to get it to start. All of which took less time than this post took to write. Pretty sure we're spoiled now.

[@cruddycornstalks]

if this had the webster mag setup it be as easy and turn it over but its battery and coil so that delays it a fair bit.

[@animalmother161]

Normally it doesn't take this long or is not this hard to start them, hamming it up for KZbin

[@djaydeved]

some probably now have eletric choke or hell maby at this point efi?

[@Romin.777]

ASMR Ow man if i only had the space, i would be a collector for sure. :))

[@michaelgrant4152]

this old machine needs to be in a building where it can be saved other wise it will be scrap iron

[@cruddycornstalks]

this machine has been sitting outside since probably the 1930s and it hasn't cared since I don't think it's going to care about another 10 years.

[@daledurbin2354]

Cold weather, cold iron = cold hands

[@american0153]

Nice engine!

[@anythingoldmechanical]

They big end bearing looks DRY. That beautiful old engine needs some love, & restoring.. properly.

[@cruddycornstalks]

it gets love, restoring doesn't gain it anything. none of the bearings were dry. they start to squeak and slow the engine down when there dry. She is happy and look the same as she has since we got her

[@martineastburn3679]

Are the cups above the pillow block blocks contain oil ? Are they dry and not smooth ?

[@cruddycornstalks]

im assuming your referring to the main bearings? those are grease cups filled with grease your turn them in to force more grease into the Babbit bearing that has a hand cut groove in it for dispersal on the shaft.