OLD VS NEW Mathews Lift vs VXR

[@joshuamonteith6901]

Just have to say my VXR is an absolute savage and my bank account is opting with ignorance is bliss. Love to see these videos because believe it or not it makes me sleep better at night knowing I can wait 2 years and grab a lift when they’re used for sale. Both are beautiful bows

[@The_Rut_Funnel]

I would like to thanks Chris for being real with his shots. Honestly makes me feel better about my 60 yard groups. People only post their best work.

[@AntoineGutknecht]

same Except I'm happy if I get that at 40

[@zaqman7255]

For reference, Chris shot a 144 in the same test (50m) with a VXR 28 4 years ago. That bow is still a top shooter vs anything.

[@chads4556]

Any of the Mathews flagship bows of the past 3-4 years are very solid: VXR, V3, V3X, and Phase 4. Since bows depreciate like new cars, going used is a good option too. Seeing the Phase 4 go for around $800-900 used bare bow.

[@hotshotelkslayer4547]

Don’t forget the Halon….😊

[@chads4556]

@@hotshotelkslayer4547 Halon 6, I see a lot of guys still shooting them

[@mnkynuts44]

​@@chads4556I was coming here to say the same thing. I have a VXR as a back-up to my Halon 6. Both set up identical!!

[@Bowsonthebrain]

Only problem with these old verse new tests are that the shooter is has only been shooting the new bow and even if the old can shoot just as good as new, chances are the test won’t reflect that because the shooter isn’t as comfortable with the old bow. Maybe spend some equal practice time with both bows then try it again

[@charlie-xu4zu]

I know i just bought a lift because I’m getting new strings on my v3x and the lift is a sweet shooter light but holds rock solid I don’t have any stabilizers on it. But I’m still not used to shooting the lift yet. I’m gonna be using that as a backup for my v3x.

[@gedog77]

I’m new to compound. I have a TRX from 2019. I’m pretty pleased with it… got it with a shibuya sight and some good stabilisers. It’ll do me well until my technique is good enough for new shiny.

[@justincampbell8903]

Still hunting with VXR. I've shot each Mathews bow yearly since the VXR was released and have yet to shoot one that makes me want to put it on the shelf (including the Lift).

[@Bluesplayer789]

I have been shooting the Traverse for four years and have always felt it to be stable and comfortable (which it is), but, I went in to try out a lift 33 the other day and it is without doubt superior in just about every way. I don't really get excited about integrate stuff but the draw was easier at same poundage and although I didnt use a chrono it is said to be faster, and the light weight is striking, when i was handed the bow, i was expecting more weight and my hand shot up as i gripped it, lucky it was a high ceiling otherwise i wouldve put the top cam through the roof.

[@DrunkinDonut573]

Iv shot a no cam for a few years and when I picked the lift up off the rack at the shop I banged the cam against to top of the rack. It's crazy how much lighter the new bows are

[@HBOutdoors_]

Am I the only one that can’t hear anything?

[@jeffspencer7489]

Me either

[@codyolson2413]

It sounds like I'm hearing it under water?

[@kalvinhutchins3704]

Can't hear anything either. 🤷‍♂️

[@SweetdaddyD116]

I can’t hear

[@sthompson447]

I can’t hear anything either

[@masonbryan7420]

I’m not a pro shooter by any chance but I do shoot pretty often and last year I shot my bow(halon 32) side by side with a new phase 4 at a pro shop and was not impressed. Like I said I’m no pro shooter but the only thing I could feel different between my bow and the phase was the grip angle. Just sharing my experience.

[@joerome8882]

For sure- took a gamble and found a new v3 27 on eBay- 700 bare bow. Just waiting on it to come in and get her set up, I just couldn’t bring myself to spend 1200 plus- on a bare bow.

[@Kathy.kf13]

Hey Chris, your video was uploaded without audio 🥺🥺

[@здравый_смысл]

🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@paulkeener5548]

I think my favorite thing about your channel is that you never hide when things don’t go well when you shoot. Thank you for showing the awesome and the not so awesome!

[@quotablequestion9938]

That’s my bow, the VXR 31.5! Love the video and the bow, will be interested to see the results.

[@ChadR41]

I like the video but I think to make them fair you should set the bows up exactly the same. With all the same attachments and time put into them.

[@BowhuntingSwede]

Still got the Vertix and VXR. Absolutely love em

[@Muskiehunter92]

I love the look of the lift riser... I just wish they didnt do this 8 limb business. There is no need for it and everyone else seems to be doing just find with 4 limbs. Its just more points of potential failure and I honestly question if this is the era we will look back on as the "8 limb" era, and in a couple years they go back to standard split limbs.

[@aaronhawk4200]

Cant afford the lift?

[@huntinfit]

Marketing at its finest. Gotta show how a 4 year old bow doesn't shoot as good as a new one, to convince people to go buy a new one. 🙄

[@quotablequestion9938]

I have the same rest on my VXR and I get flyers often. I should probably get a whisker for it instead lol

[@patrickpilie7903]

I'm a fan, but that was the most slanted "challenge" ever. There was zero chance he was not going to give the nod to the new bow he's pimping.

[@CM-pc4xu]

Im not even a VXR fan, but dang that felt like a poor comparison with whatever you had going on with that rest. Im another vote for Hamskea over QAD all day everyday.

[@tylersmith7415]

I have sound, I will say this. I bet the hamskea just needs a tweak on the rest cord. My lift shoots well though.

[@paradisevalleyoutdoors7328]

That vxr set up correctly will shoot right with the lift! Put that vxr in Levi Morgan's hand and let's do this competition again! 😂 good content, I like the fact your saying it's ok to buy a older model bow! VXR, V3,V3X, Phase 4, Lift...all will shoot better than most shooters can make them shoot!

[@SkillCollectors]

Just bought a used VXR from ebay for my first bow. Super stoked to learn, thanks for putting out all this content, have already learned so much and don't even have the bow yet.

[@morrisroberts1805]

Excellent advice on buying used. I recently purchased a Halon 32-6 for my first flagship level bow and couldn’t be happier.

[@Tullminator]

He seems so happy to be making these videos! The enthusiasm is through the roof!

[@jessegillenwater]

The hamskea dissing is absolutely diabolical 😂 holy sponsor

[@douglasvaughn9530]

Not a fair test at all. Hamskea is easily the best rest on the market. It's not even close!

[@aaronhawk4200]

Has nothing to do with anything. Buy a bow before you speak

[@Journey_of_Abundance]

Why?

[@masonspindler9557]

Second this. Hamskea has since refined their dampening design and they no longer do it with the new vs the old design in the video.

[@tjrou2005]

Still shooting a Halon 6 but the Lift 33 has finally got me chomping at the bit for a new one. Not that my Halon is bad but that 33 lift is lights out for longer shots and being stable. must resist....

[@hotshotelkslayer4547]

Good video Chris….yeah I think all the bow needed was some care after coming off the shelf to shoot bullets…doesn’t really matter though as most just go off feel of the draw and shot to decide between two or more bows at a pro shop…fun content…

[@rickmorotta1997]

Love your stuff, but the video competition of the two bows to me just wasn't a fair fight especially when you know one bow is having a problem with the rest that's on there I think you should redo that competition but instead of using that rest you had on the vxr why don't you use a QAD integrate arrow rest never have been a fan of a limb driven rest just too many things that can go wrong with the way it's attached to the bow limb I've always used a qad on my Mathews Bows but I'm old school I've always been told if it isn't broke don't fix it, and I've never had a malfunction with a QAD, plus I know you can shoot both bows equally well, looking forward to the redo and pretty sure the vxr will compete equally well as the lift, keep up the great content always looking forward to a new video on KZbin from you.

[@presmak25]

Blame the rest. If you take a few minutes and adjust the rest, you won't have this problem. QAD would have the same problem. Fix the bow, redo the challenge, and give both both a fair chance. Love the videos. Keep them coming

[@markgendusa3624]

Please make a follow up video on what was wrong with the bow. It would be helpful in case we run into a similar situation. I love your technical videos. Thanks man.

[@josiahhasse6725]

The arrow appears to be nocked upside down at 8:05 I like how real these videos are... thanks for not editing out the imperfections.

[@SwampLifeAdventures]

Honestly if you get the VXR rest fixed, that bow would shoot dimes. The good shots were better than the lifts and the bad shots were worse than the lifts.

[@gagebaxter3903]

I need to see a phase 4,33” vs the lift 33”

[@PersonalBestOutdoors]

Well. Normally I'm a fan of content like this. And your content in general. But this was brutal to watch. Of course the lift with an extra 1.5" of ATA length is going to hold better. Of course with it being the bow you have been shooting daily since it arrived well probably shoot better than the one that's been collecting dust since 2020. But this felt like a "Buy the new lift, so I get the 2025 model for free, too" video.

[@ross7684]

Anyone will shoot better with the bow they have been using regularly. That is why both my primary and back-up bows are set up identically and I alternate between them at the range. If I need to hunt with the back-up, I don't want to be at a disadvantage.

[@jmcb5215]

Maybe don't use the spring on the rest. If hamskea was so unreliable why do most pro target archers who run drop aways use em

[@aksium_]

Because they're sponsored by Hamskea

[@PoeOutdoors]

@@aksium_ So you think professional archers who depend on their placement to pay their bills only shoot a Hamskea because they get it free? Do you realize Hamskea only pays $400 for a first place finish? That means the guy who finishes 5th gets no money.

[@borntoharvest]

Been shooting for 16 years. Started with QAD but recently started using Hamskea. I like the Hamskea so much better.

[@Brian_DesertBadger]

What a video 😂 Chris bee doesn’t want to make mathews look bad he clearly put the VXR at a huge disadvantage

[@tonystafford6793]

not a fair comparison with VXR not tuned recently vs Lift tuned. I vote a redo with same rest on both and both tuned?

[@douglasvaughn9530]

You have the limb activation cord tied too close to the tip of the limb on the VXR with Hamskea. The Mathews limbs have too much recoil on the shot and cause the launcher to bounce back up into the vanes when you use the Hamskea bracket that screws into the tip of the limb. The cord should be tied around the limb around 2.5" from the limb tip. Learn how to set up a Hamskea and you will be shooting bullseye seeking lasers. It wasn't the rests fault... operator error.

[@aaronhawk4200]

Yeah, i am sure you know more than him keyboard warrior

[@rwhite7361]

Well hamskea vs qad lawsuit, need I say more haha

[@josephfolsom2030]

@@rwhite7361What lawsuit?

[@PoeOutdoors]

@@aaronhawk4200 Those instructions are straight from Devin Hall, who might know a little more about this rest than Chris. Thinking for yourself and not being a sheep is freeing, you should give it a try sometime.

[@aaronhawk4200]

@PoeOutdoors telling someone to think for themselves while following someone else's instructions is wild. Not very smart, are you?

[@josephfolsom2030]

As far as the Hamskea rest, my shop actually attaches the actuator cord to the “O” ring. I don’t know if that would make a difference but I have changed to the QAD ultra rest

[@pjreilly3997]

It's quite popular to attach the Hamskea cord to the "O ring,"....meaning the yoke harness...however, Hamskea will tell you do NOT attach there. We have done high speed to test that advice too. Since the yoke harness is part of the string system, it moves forward after the shot. When it does that, the rest rises, which can cause interference. I'm not saying it will cause interference....but it can, especially if you are using larger vanes and have the nock spun to lower the vanes. Which is why Hamskea will tell you do not attach there....go the the limb.

[@Jamie.Salisbury]

awesome video Chris!! such a shame that the VXR wasnt playing ball, i remember when you set it up and got an insane group at 70yds on that deer, then got a robin hood at 70yds😜

[@PoeOutdoors]

If your Hamskea launcher is bouncing enough to create flecthing contact, you don't have it set up correctly. If you have fletching contact, blame the fletching. Gotta love these types of videos posted strictly for clicks/views.

[@simoncooper6939]

Great Video Chris, thank you. I will take your advice and pick up a Lift in a couple of years time 😁

[@mikerugar5440]

Not a question or comment on this video, but I would like to know if you are ever going to make a Breal grip to go with the Matthew's shot sense? Would like to get a grip but I don't want to be moving back and forth with taking the shot sense in and out.

[@HunterZybach]

Thank you for the video. Although they change little each year, bows have come very far in the last 5-6 years.

[@clemmersmetalworx7012]

How about a video . On buying a used bow . Guys on a budget. Buying a a bow up to 10yrs old . What to look for . Maybe buying a marketplace bow or pawnshop bow .

[@Alexsescapdes]

No audio! Can’t wait for the reupload though.

[@jesseglover6953]

Chris love the video but your mic is messing with my ears. It’s like not equalized between the speakers

[@chueko208]

No audio when using 1 AirPod. Audio comes through without a headphone but it sounds off like it’s it asmr mode or something

[@Tmpr111]

Could be audio, only left AirPod works but the VXR sounds quieter

[@AkiDarkWolf]

Now do what everyone wants to know: Lift 29.5“ vs Lift 33“ - Does the ATA really matter on longer shots?

[@guywhosleepallday8194]

All I can say is, garbage comparison video. Saying the vxr is alittle longer draw and saying the peep sight is alittle down too. While the lift is on the perfect draw length and peep is on point lol

[@Ws_minion]

could be wrong but it sounds like youve got the audio set to mono but with the left ear track only, making my brain itch

[@MainleyArchery]

Chris, don’t bash brands because you do not have them tuned and set up properly. People all over the country will question and doubt their local archery shop because of what you say about a product. Did you not win a tac truck with that bow and rest?

[@donaldwaddell8044]

Chris, have you had any limb issues with your lift? I know you shoot 80lbs and so do I. I watched a video this past week about that and decided to check mine and found a slight splinter. I value your opinion on anything archery and just wanted to know if you have any thoughts on the subject.

[@woodyousley2712]

I have a Lift 33 but i still pull my VXR 31.5 out and it’s just freaking money on the shot!

[@Noah.Parrigan]

Keep up the great videos and content! My 8 year old son wants to watch your KZbin videos every night.

[@masonchristensen5115]

anyone else have audio issues with this video

[@HBOutdoors_]

Same here I thought it was only me

[@Wyatt-22250]

Yes, major

[@austin_olsen]

I shoot the vxr 31.5 right now. Ordered my lift first and January and I’m still waiting on it.. but excited for when I get it.

[@malcolmjohnson5941]

I can’t stand the way a Hamskea rest makes a bow sound and feel. QAD rest for hunting and a blade rest for target shooting for me.

[@stephenbracht1700]

No sound Chris

[@Mattclay29]

Cmon Chris, Tuned lift vs untuned VXR isn’t a fair comparison. Gotta love that new lift though

[@TomGunnZ]

I feel you should do modern hamskea epsilon much better than the trinity n etc

[@taddttratar942]

Cant hear Chris.. Audio is medded up on this one.

[@gordonneverdies]

Hamskea probably gonna lose a million dollars because Chris wouldn't adjust the rest.

[@jessegillenwater]

Bro used hamskea only for like 10 years and now that he’s with qad mathews integrate its “why he moved away”🤣

[@Luckyup92]

Love the content you put out always something cool or a good learning experience. Can you do v3x vs lift please?

[@tamaroman6369]

Can't hear anything chris

[@donfrea]

Audio only works with headphones or ear buds, both ears. Tried using my phone without them and didnt work.

[@thatcodyindividual]

So what you’re saying is the bows are different?

[@McLwtf]

This 2 bows was perfect 🤩, hugs from caxias brazil🇧🇷

[@saransmith8773]

No sound

[@marvinmcafee4275]

Love the video my 60 yrd shots don't seem God awful now maybe you should give that vxr away sure you could come up with something

[@Slinginarrowstv]

Low right shots are also week shot execution, nice video chris!!! Love the channel

[@mayhem035]

So, is that lift the super speed one vs the older one?

[@loganct5]

Love the vids and content, thank you. But man, u need a different mic/Change the settings, something. Ur audio is always super weird, i don't know if its placement or what...

[@mikesabo5151]

Great video Chris 🐝🐝🐝🐝why are you not here at Total Archrey challenge here in Seven Springs!

[@garretcarden1]

I can hear some audio with out ear buds, but it's off. with ear buds there's nothing

[@WyattFerries-jp1op]

Why did you choose Sitka over first lite

[@colingregory7464]

Not sure this was a direct comparison without the effort to set them as close to identical ? Draw length, anchor, let off, etc, without the setup adjustments the LIFT is set to you now and the VXR is setup to you as you were then (or possibly as you thought you wanted it at the time ?)

[@zackgajewski3412]

What do you do with all your old bows?

[@mystycim]

I went and tried a new lift 29.5 and jesus, it was bare but it felt like holding a feather!

[@Getdownorlaydownbum]

I agree with everything you said

[@petersallander6913]

I need you have to change your anchor point to a more solid point can you move a 16th of an inch Frozen arrow off point

[@isaacb.koetje3907]

You should do an updated camera gear video!!

[@chazt4863]

Chris, can you tell us what draw weights your shooting for each bow and the arrow wt? Great stuff! Thanks

[@NockNArrow]

The problem is, neither bow is a great bow. The shooter is a great shooter in the video. Mathews bows... Well... Not for me.

[@lanceschultz7132]

The vxr is as close to the switchback is i have found. Absolutely loved it (31.5) kick myself for selling it.

[@NOCKARCHERY]

Should do a v3x vs the lift

[@juils65]

Do you have a dodge arrow there? you always seam to get a flyer out of the 6 arrows?

[@Joesac]

How much you want to bet he’s actually just as accurate with both bows

[@MattMillardOutdoors]

There’s no audio to the right speaker

[@justinrobo99]

I’d be curious to know your specs. Draw length, weight, arrow length, Ext.

[@yo-bass-cat4027]

Maybe check tune

[@MattMillardOutdoors]

No sound if I’m using one AirPod

[@danskhus]

Not really a fair comparison an old setup with a faulty rest VS an updated bow you shoot daily 🤔

[@brycekearns207]

Haha nice I might have asked for a video like this in a previous video...I have the PH 4 29 but still rock the vxr 31 as a back up great content

[@cptkool9405]

No audio 😢