Old vs New: Spider-Man Movies - Nostalgia Critic

[@pfitz9346]

J. J. Jameson is honestly a great example of why the characters in the first ones were the best. He is a comic book character brought to life and arguable the most well known version of JJ by a long shot.

[@thebeaver8456]

heard they might have the original actor play the mcu jj

[@littykitty040]

@@thebeaver8456 I really hope you're serious.

[@tiredofeverything2771]

Yeah Simon's was better

[@fakeemojace4196]

Yeah, Simmons is never going to be equaled (except in voice acting I mean in Spectacular) but look at the love interest, or Spidey himself, he actually makes jokes, is comidic, and I feel he was a better Spider-Man overall, although as Peter Parker Maguire sold me better, but still

[@user-cx6ht7tp3d]

I thought the first amazing spider man was pretty good the second was pretty bad but I thought it was pretty good but homecoming knocked it out of the park

[@cachorrao0703]

"We never see how strong peter is in the original" Peter stops a train with his freaking hands.

[@thechallenger752]

Ron Ramc and lifts a building wall to save his girlfriend.

[@goldenlightpictures6223]

and holding a piece of a heavy wall in the climax of 2

[@JulianneStingray]

you're crying

[@andrewvanhalen1984]

As well as running into a burning building and saving a little girl WITHOUT HIS POWERS

[@comicmonsterstudios711]

Also when he saves mj he says this is heavy then in the train scene he faints after pushing himself to stop the train in time

[@lebronjame2016]

Ok to be fair Toby cried at appropriate times: - Uncle ben dying - Crying because your dead uncle could not see you graduate High school - Crying when having an identity crisis about whether you want to have a normal life or be a superhero - Crying when your girlfriend breaks up with you - Crying when your childhood bestfriend dies

[@TerribleTake]

benny paige aside from the superhero part I’ve had all/ very similar thing happen and I’ve not cried about them once crying is an irrational way to handle something and just weird and cringy

[@yourlocalnee7081]

@@TerribleTake Wow

[@dylanogg347]

@@TerribleTake Are you a robot?

[@C0DYM4N99]

Ryan's Channel Oh so Amazing Spider-Man had only one? They had JUST as much so him crying TOO much here is pure bullshit

[@OmegaReconGaming]

Wrestling News Side He cried twice. Once for the death of Gwen Stacy and the other was uncle Ben. Both heart breaking loses. Andrew Garfield sucked me into the amazing Spider-Man and I loved Emma stone as Gwen Stacy. They’re chemistry was excellent. When Gwen father died all I wanted to do was hug her. Same for peter when Gwen dies. I’m like this dude needs a hug. Amazing Spider-Man had more emotions and the world felt real and the action was great. I loved electro, I can’t understand why people think that he attack s people out of nowhere. Did people forget that a sniper shot at him and that was after Spider-Man promised he wouldn’t hurt him. It’s then followed by the line. “YOU LIED TO ME!” It wasn’t peter fault the police wouldn’t stop shooting at electro but he then had to save people. So I honestly don’t see the problem with electro attacking people. He felt like his idol betrayed him. I liked the lizard even if he’s alittle forgettable. And the green goblin...... yeah..... even I can’t defend that. Though he’s still better then Defoe and I can’t believe I’m saying that because I love William Defoe. However I’m judging how he acted in that movie not his career in general. And in the rami movies. He’s really phoning it in. And just can’t take him seriously. And don’t give me your not supposed to take comics seriously. If people can get heart broken over their favorite character getting finger snapped by thanos then this has no excuse. Comics are serious however they balence it with comedy and that’s what makes marvel so great. Because they pull this off so well.

[@Redhood813]

"When was the last time we heard Maguire complain about something" Tobey Maguire:"You'll get your rent when you fix this damn door"! ! !

[@ghostzombies3252]

That was because the deadite symbiote was amplifying his anger

[@Evilriku13]

also smth NC forgets is that the weird times Tobey acted during SPiderman 3 was all because of the symbiote feeding upon those weaknesses of him by turning it into "egosticial strengths" basically, like this prideful very (supposed to be) cringy dance he did to show off his ego.

[@sirtophamhatt552]

"Maguire's so quiet and so awkward it's kind of hard to imagine him running around in a costume like that." THAT'S THE POINT. Peter Parker isn't supposed to be a guy you look at and go, "yeah, he could totally be a super hero." The reason why Parker is so endearing as a character is because he is quiet, nerdy and awkward.

[@thewordoflynx8095]

Sir Topham Hatt And on the other hand, garfield tries to be like maguire but just can't, for example: At the begining of the movie we see him getting bullied...why? This guy is cool! The reason why tobey maguire's peter parker was bullied was because he was a nerd, and nerds are unfairly bashed, but garfield isn't a nerd. What? You're telling me that the simple fact that he wears glasses makes him a nerd? F*CK OFF! I hate this movie!

[@ZealStarMedia]

Dragon 54321 He finds the glasses, after getting bullied 😑 And in reality it's not just nerds that get bullied, it can happen to anyone (I WOULD KNOW)

[@thewordoflynx8095]

MoJo Claw That's not what i said, i said that nerd or not, he has nor reasons to get bullied, this guy is cool.

[@David_The_Goat21]

Sir Topham Hatt thank u

[@tyhom2876]

Amen

[@hansruhlmann454]

Nostalgia Critic: Did we ever have a supervillain that didn't have a split personality in any of these Spiderman movies? Me: Uhm, Sandman?

[@joycongod4831]

@@iamliterallyme foreal. Sandman needed to figure out what he wanted to do lol

[@rebelfriend5172]

@@iamliterallyme the bad guy with a heart or the bad guy with a heart

[@Tismdylan]

I think Doctor oc had a better story

[@Danclownman]

Norman Osborn

[@hunterolaughlin]

Also the only villain in the trilogy that didn’t die. *Mechanical arm grabs my neck* Alfred Molina/Dr. Octopus: Oh, I wouldn’t say that....

[@jakestone_]

27:32 Bruh, he was going through some real mental crises. It wasn't just because "it was hard".

[@neekoolie6443]

Jake Stone the new spiderman had more “mental crises” than the old one The old one was letting his dicl do the talking The new one has the death of his girlfriend and his girlfriends father who told him to him to stay her out of trouble

[@duncananderson2113]

HE LOST HIS POWERS FOR NO REASON WHICH WAS A STUPID SUB PLOT AND ONE OF THE REASON'S I "HATE" "HATE" Sam Raimi's Spiderman 2 the only good thing about it was Stoping the Train scene,the Music and The Game which handled the Story SOOOOO much better than the film.The first Sam Raimi film was Legendary but Sam Raimi spiderman 2 was garbage

[@HenryHernandez-cn7tx]

In the new movies he quits being Spider-Man for about 5 minutes of fucking screen time, the gloss over it in a montage, how can you say that was even more emotionally impactful? And he stops dating Gwen because of her fathers death for even less time, these moments SHOULD be more impactful but the movies themselves do a terrible job of presenting that

[@Desolation66]

Nee koo Lie well, maguires Spider-Man was going through a hell of a lot as well, more than just life being stressful. Being Spider-Man was literally destroying his entire life, he had no money, got fired from his jobs, failing college, girl he loves hates him, his best friend hates him, his uncle died, his aunt even got pissed at him when he came clean about ben and she was losing her home, New York hated him because of JJ.. He pretty much had nothing

[@nicholashoff8311]

Honestly both Tobey's and Andrew's version of Spiderman had valid reasons for quitting. Tobey's reason was that the stresses of being both Peter and Spiderman were becoming too much and caused his body to react causing him to lose his powers. Without his powers he can't be Spiderman, and he thought he lost them forever. Andrew's was due to the fact he lost the love of his life and her father and thought what use is it to be a hero when he can't even save his loved ones. Now as for how the movies showed this and handled their returns, the original showcased how he was adjusting to his normal life and even showed him faced with a decision to either stop a mugging or go on with his day (granted they didn't do that part well) and when he returned it's because his powers came back along showing her never wanted to give it up to begin with and gets into a fight that nearly kills him. Andrew's shown sitting at home for like a minute and then listens to Gwen's graduation speech (which didn't sound like a graduation speech at all and was just a speech designed specifically to sound motivational for him) and then he's back to saving people and we don't even get to see the fight.

[@fryPS]

15:24 “It’s my birthday. Now it’s time for me to light my candles” “Poor Peter Parker” “A world without light. A world without hope. A world without Spider-Man”

[@techno639]

"Nowhere to hide, Peter!"

[@yoshigamemaster6127]

Not as good og i honestly dint remeber any qoutes from TAMS

[@yoshigamemaster6127]

Dear god it hurts to say amazing spiderman when that Spider-Man sucks ass

[@aidanredding8058]

"Don't you know, I'm Electro"

[@fryPS]

@@yoshigamemaster6127 Never thought about how weird saying amazing sounds lmao

[@trunks8124]

Supports Tobey Maguire ... Wears Andrew Garfield's suit

[@erleydoesstuff1722]

Seems legit

[@Snoc75]

@Sherk true.

[@needle8419]

Sherk there’s always eBay

[@Snoc75]

@@needle8419 Yeah, but there isn't always money. You'd have to pay so fucking much just for a random Spidey suit these days.

[@CeriseApple]

Trunks this is a really fucking stupid comment.

[@mynamedoesnotmatter8596]

She says that she prefers the older Spider-Man movies,yet she wears a costume from the amazing spider man

[@WhiteDarkness3113]

While it was a joke but lets be real it was a poorly executed joke

[@mynamedoesnotmatter8596]

White Darkness probably

[@lapidot4ever647]

I guess they may have not find a tobey maquire suit. A comic spider-man suit or tobey shirt would be better.

[@WhiteDarkness3113]

@@lapidot4ever647 true but I just find that to be lazy. To Doug not you

[@yourfriendlyneighborhood3991]

True, Guy/Girl/Attack Helicopter with no name.

[@brubio39]

21:15 actually it turns out the actors of Peter and Gwen were dating in real life, which explained why the chemistry feels so organic

[@m.muradbasic4186]

「Kurima」 but still boring and uninteresting at the end

[@phosphatepod]

Yeah, no. The chemistry felt off, somehow. I don’t know how. They were dating. How the fuck could the chemistry feel off? Andrew Garfield is a fucking amazing actor, BUT THE SCRIPT WAS SO BAD THAT IT FELT OFF! This isn’t just my opinion, but there are other people too, ask anyone.

[@SuperScarface83]

"Ask anyone." You need to be more specific, because quite a few people thought that the chemistry between Peter and Gwen was wonderful.

[@JulianneStingray]

still dragged on forever with no substance

[@slendermurph]

Boring and dull

[@bocowan9106]

I love how Tamara defends the rami movies while wearing a costume from the web movies 🤣

[@RevampedCobra73]

Three words: J Jonah Jameson. Original is better for that alone in my opinion

[@ethanedwards3357]

RevampedCobra73 He is SO FUNNY! Especially in a deleted scene for the second one in the trilogy!

[@kateterberg5152]

J.K. Simmons is like the oregano of actors. He improves everything he's in.

[@paulsavage564]

RevampedCobra73 I saw Spider Man 2 the other die mostly just to see J. Jonah Jameson

[@Noname-ut1ye]

RevampedCobra73 JJ simons would give you a bucket of christmas meat for that comment.

[@NRsilver23]

RevampedCobra73 Yes there's no denying that J.K. Simmons was the Perfect choice to play Jameson.

[@pepe2veces]

The old one gave us a perfect J.J. Jameson, and that's enough to me

[@aaronsmith2688]

So perfect Marvel didn't even recast him.

[@justwalkera]

@@aaronsmith2688 did you see far from home

[@aaronsmith2688]

@@justwalkera Yes, and that was a spoiler, and I didn't give any kind of warning. Cause I'm kind of a dick like that.

[@justwalkera]

@@aaronsmith2688 the movie came out almost a year ago so fuck you and grow a spine

[@aaronsmith2688]

@@justwalkera How bout you learn to take a fucking joke asshole? I just made the comment that J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson is irreplaceable, the same with Morgan Freeman in The Shawshank Redemption as Red or James Earl Jones as Mufassa in The Lion King. Then you made a comment and I responded. And I made a joke. And people get pissed off if you spoil anything nowadays, even movies and TV shows that came out fifty years ago.

[@slitbodmod5602]

You entirely miss the point of action scenes. They mean absolutely nothing without actual plot and arc-driven conflict between the characters. The originals might have cheesier fighting, but you felt the importance of the actual conflict between the characters. The new movies’ characters are so bad and poorly developed that the fight scenes, while visually good, are just a bunch of weightless, empty nonsense.

[@Th0tSlAyErIII]

Jojo The Panda THANK YOU!!

[@SonicCrakpot]

The Fast and Furious movies would beg to differ. I agree that being invested in the characters greatly elevates an action scene, however suggesting that not being invested renders every action scene as 'just a bunch of nonsense' no matter how well staged they are isn't just daft, but its kinda insulting to the tireless work that goes into properly staging them. You're basically saying to the stunt and VFX crew, "The characters are shit, so your work means nothing." Strong visuals can be just as compelling as good writing and since action scenes and characters are just forms of visuals and writing the same rule applies. In a good movie the two should complement each other, but even if they don't that doesn't cancel the other one out entirely.

[@Set451]

@@SonicCrakpot I've never not slept through a fast and furious movie

[@SonicCrakpot]

And? Considering the average Rotten Tomato score for the most recent movies and the box office totals, it's clear millions do enjoy the movies both amongst critics and audience members, so it must be striking a chord. I know people that love them just for the spectacle of the action scenes. Also, can't help but laugh that you focused on the first thing I typed and apparently ignored everything else in my comment. Talk about a fucking knee jerk reaction lol

[@Set451]

@@SonicCrakpot knee jerk reaction? I don't think that means what you think it means.

[@acountryboysopinion6001]

Andrew & Emma were dating at the time of their films. That's why their " chemistry " was so good.

[@kingsasuke86]

Dosen't matter, look at that ben Affleck and jlo movie.. 🤢🤢

[@Retr0_846]

That’s why it was bad

[@kriticalitylives]

@@Retr0_846 How does having a real relationship behind the scenes make a movie bad?

[@hunterolaughlin]

Hey! Peter was much better with Gwen than he was Mary Jane. Like you can’t look at the original films and tell that Peter and Mary’s dialogue scenes were awkward.

[@hunterolaughlin]

@Wyatt Burchell Well I didn’t like Peter and Mary Jane’s relationship in the original trilogy and I disliked Mary Jane. I honestly can’t dislike Tobey Maguire, so that’s why I said I only dislike Mary Jane. Their relationship and chemistry isn’t better either. Dislike Peter and Gwen all you want, but at least their chemistry was believable. Peter and Mary Jane’s on the other hand is so cringe that I cannot believe that they’re in love. I mean seriously, the romantic dialogue is laughable. Mary Jane: “You’re taller than you look.” Peter: “I hunch.” Mary Jane: “Don’t.” Like wth? 😂 Did a middle schooler write that dialogue? It really shows David Koepp is not good with writing romantic dialogue. But then again, what do you expect from the screenwriter of The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1993), Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) and Angels & Demons (2009) and director of Mortdecai (2015)?

[@rattlesnakejake956]

I prefer the Raimi films. And say what you will about Willem Dafoe, but he's a thousand times better than the almost motiveless Dane DeHann.

[@ElVlogdeBob]

Raimi is campy as hell but that's what makes his movies memorable. The new spiderman movies are good but forgetable.

[@jerrygodeep4787]

who doesn't like dafoe lol

[@crunchyfresco]

Of course he won. He chose a person that cant defend the old series. The new Spiderman series were too rushed. They didnt really build the relationship between Peter and Gwen. They just fell in love and that was it. The old ones they build a bond through hardship. The old one was a dork but he struggle and you cared about him. The new Spiderman is a jerk and you hate him or dislike him instead of cheering him. The old villains had more build up than the new ones.

[@jerrygodeep4787]

Carmen Aguayo same with mary jane and him

[@jerrygodeep4787]

Carmen Aguayo how was the new spiderman a jerk?

[@britipinojeff]

WAIT WAIT WAIT Mcguire just quit cuz it was hard? He quit because he wasn't sure if he wanted to keep being a super hero. He started because he wanted to get revenge for his uncle's death and then kept doing it to protect those in need. However, no matter how many times he saved people, either more bad guys would show up, or the public would say he was a menace because of the rhetoric of J. Jonah Jameson. He wasn't sure if he was actually making a difference and he thought that maybe people had a point. Spiderman has had that character arc in so many different adaptations. They even did it in the Ultimate Spiderman tv show. Spiderman quitting because he was grieving is out of character, and like just think of all the lives he could have saved in a version of the city that doesn't hate him all because he was depressed.

[@slickryder]

Why you can't spell maguire right when you liked old one

[@talonhayes8934]

Not to mention Garfield quit because one person died,one person. "Oh but he loves her" he loved uncle Ben too, did he give up then, no he became a superhero. People die all the time, it's a comic book. Did comic Spidey give up then, no. Why? Cause he's a real hero

[@talonhayes8934]

@@slickryder why can't you put spaces between words like normal people. How does that feel? You make fun of someone for bad grammar and yet you're own name is a litterateur failure

[@slickryder]

@@talonhayes8934 what?

[@JulianneStingray]

he quit because he didn't know if he was making a difference and was starting to give into the opinion that spiderman is a menace smh

[@RaphaelBas1995]

I'm not sure I necessarily agree with the Best Spider-Man ruling, because there are definitely points on Maguire that Doug either simplified or didn't explain correctly. For one, he didn't quit being Spider-Man because it was just hard, he quit because his powers were literally failing him and he felt he was posing a greater danger to the public and himself by continuing to be a superhero. And on being shy and awkward, you could argue that that makes him less assuming. With Garfield, I could always sense he was hiding something, and let's face it, he's terrible at concealing his identity, whereas Maguire's personality added more mystery, because you wouldn't connect a sky, awkward teenager with a wisecracking, smart mouthed superhero.

[@water_color]

We can all agree MCU spiderman reigns over all

[@RaphaelBas1995]

RandoM Videos I haven't seen that movie yet, so I'll take your word for it.

[@Doom-qg4je]

+RandoM Videos so true

[@brad_hensil]

HOLY FUCK, someone who understands Spider Man

[@Doom-qg4je]

+Rex67Diego9 fandub well maybe because maguire didn't have a good Peter Parker . He constantly cried and his relationship with MJ was bad. Garfield's Parker was kinda too cool . Tom Holland 's Spiderman was nerdy,geeky and lively . He might not be the perfect Spiderman but he is the best so far. Oh and I wouldn't really say maguire's spiderman was developed . His movies are just the same thing over and over again .

[@johnskeeeee]

Poor Peter Parker no mother no father no uncle That’s literally the one line of dialogue any of the villains in the Amazing Spider-Man movies got

[@trippcory]

It's still not as a memorable as the lines from the old spiderman movies

[@logannottheonefrommarvel9917]

I'd say Homecoming is the least quotable of the Spider-Man movies

[@CitizenInsane2008]

Also the only good one

[@YungandRekless545]

I don't think you know what the word literally means

[@noosaibazahrah1318]

Exactly!

[@TheTigerPower]

Nostalgia critic: “Remember the last time when Mary Jane tried to help.” (shows a clip of Spider-Man 2) Me: Yeah in Spider-Man 3 she threw a brick at venom and saved Spider-Man’s life and that was pretty cool and interesting.

[@raven3067]

#1: CINDER BLOCK! #2: That brick barely did shit to venom. It only made him more pissed

[@AdmireRoxtars]

@@raven3067 Distracted him long enough for Peter to act

[@raven3067]

@@AdmireRoxtars Uh it only distracted him for about a split second.

[@AdmireRoxtars]

@@raven3067 Distracted him long enough for Peter to act

[@raven3067]

@3haterz Peter was going to get out of that web anyway. He didn't need MJ to get in the way.

[@AgentDajo]

I disagree strongly about Andrew being the best Spiderman. Who is the one I looked up to as Spiderman? It's not Andrew Garfield's, and I enjoyed his movies. It's Tobey Maguire's Spiderman that I looked up to more. His Spiderman was the one that acted more like a true hero. Unlike Garfield's, Maguire's Spiderman truly felt like he knew the heavy responsibility he carried with his powers. At first, Peter used his powers for financial gain, participating in a wrestling tournament. He showed that he is strong, you know that he's capable of stopping anyone. But he decided not to stop the thief out of revenge. If he didn't think about himself and revenge, he could've prevented someone, like his uncle, from getting killed that night. Granted the same thing happened with Garfield's, but he never seemed guilt-ridden. The reason being is because he didn't test out his powers. He doesn't know that he could've probably taken that guy out. Peter wasn't put in a situation where he knew what he was capable of stopping the thief. After all, he was just denied milk rather than being denied $10,000 after beating a guy who was 3x bigger than he was. And for the ending of the first movie, you may be frustrated that Tobey's Peter turned down MJ, but he did that because he realized that his loved ones will get hurt if his enemies found out who he was. He even had a taste of that with Aunt May and Mary Jane nearly getting killed by Green Goblin. And Tobey's Spiderman made that hard choice himself. Again, Gwen's dad had to make Andrew's Spiderman promise to stay away from Gwen. Which to his credit, he does... and immediately breaks it. Andrew's Spiderman is a bit too cocky for me, and a lot more selfish than what I'd expect from a hero. And for giving up Spiderman. You can't be serious if you say Tobey's quit just because it was "hard". Tobey's Peter's life was crappy! Lost his job, lost the girl, aunt in financial trouble, losing his best friend, and failing classes and why? Because he's too busy being a superhero. The life of a superhero ain't easy, and it shows. But he continues because that's his curse, and his promise to Uncle Ben. He sacrificed a lot of things just to keep the city safer. But that came to a head when he was losing his powers. With his powers waning, Peter saw an out. He could keep his social life intact, keep his grades up, and have a slightly better life without the added stress of being a hero. And this was not an easy decision for him, as he breaks his promise to his uncle, mentally having the image of letting him down again. As for Garfield's, goodness. He was willing to leave New York with Gwen for England. Giving up his hero career just to be with his girlfriend. Sweet and romantic, but heroic? That decision doesn't sound like anything that would benefit the city of New York at all. It will only benefit himself and Gwen, and possibly England. But what happens in England? They got James Bond for that stuff. And then after Gwen's death, he stops being Spiderman?! Sure, he couldn't save the love of his life, but that shouldn't stop him from doing what he does! I understand if he mourns for a day or a week, but not months! The only thing that made him come back was just hearing Gwen's grad speech that seemed aimed at heroes than graduating high school seniors. But that shouldn't be what makes him come back. Peter now has two people taken away from him, Uncle Ben and Gwen, due to him being selfish, and for not being careful about his relations. He could've used these experiences to become the real Spiderman; use his powers for the benefit of the city, and to absolutely keep is identity a secret from both foes and loved ones. Tobey's Peter felt more like a hero because he made decisions for the benefit of the citizens of New York. He lives a crappy life, but deals with it because his responsibility of keeping New York safer is more important to him. Peter could still win wresting matches and make money, but knows that would be a misuse of his gift. Denies himself the happiness to be with MJ to keep her safe. Andrew's Peter makes his decisions out of pride and desires. Gets called out for only going after look alikes, decides to be a hero. Told to stay away from Gwen, still goes out with her. (I will mention that I left out that he dumped her in TAS2, but still stalks and goes out with Gwen again.) Quits being Spiderman because he couldn't save Gwen. And hell, forgot to mention he revealed that he was Spiderman to her. Andrew's Peter is more the guy people would like to be, but Tobey's Peter is more of the man people should be.

[@robertsavageau112]

AgentDajo You have a perfect understanding of the Spider-Man character and I couldn't agree more or said it better myself great job!

[@tracyallen9170]

You have a good point. Though what's your thoughts on Tom Holland's Spider-Man?

[@robertsavageau112]

tracy allen I really like him and I think along with Tobey Maguire are the best Spider-Man actors to date.

[@jackjaws]

👏👏👏 My thoughts exactly

[@hmanhero4024]

I agree with you.Tobey Maguire had the selfless heroism that Spider-Man has.

[@samcahill8734]

2 words that tell you that maguires is better:PIZZA TIME

[@ethomations7705]

Co-rrect.

[@mckainnopr7500]

Thinking about the music of the pizza mission in spider man 2 (Tobey McGuire)

[@spiderguythehero9048]

Yes THAT strate up distroys any good thing about the amazing movies

[@nuclear_mech_wizard]

Counterpoint: "YOU FOUND MY WEAKNESS: IT'S SMALL KNIVES"

[@spiderguythehero9048]

@@nuclear_mech_wizard how sead that and in which amazing film

[@jp3813]

Now that No Way Home is out, the three actors whose performances are being praised the most are Willem Dafoe, Andrew Garfield, & Tom Holland. The rest of the cast is solid as well, but it goes to show that if Andrew had a better crew behind him, he would've been legendary.

[@johnstriker480]

True dat

[@nourhajj4999]

For me, I praised ALL OF THEM. They were both my childhood (Sam Raimi's movies) and my early crushes ( Mar Webb ones). I was SO HAPPY that Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield were back.

[@davetheauthor9885]

Amazing Spiderman WAS the best Stan Lee cameo...until Deadpool.

[@millerrepin4452]

Idk Civil war Stan lee cameo was pretty great too

[@bleh5389]

Nothing beats Deadpool

[@thebitchinblack8166]

Have you seen Guardians of the Galaxy 2's cameo yet?

[@Anonymous.Throne]

Stan lees best cameo was transformers

[@kris_creations1338]

cant we just say that ALL Stan Lee cameo's are best?....Except Big Hero 6, that is definitely at the top

[@canolathra6865]

I can agree with most of this, except the last part. When Nostalgia Critic asks "Which Spiderman would you rather be?", my answer is "Garfield, because the only real difficulty in his life is being a superhero. Maguire had to deal with a lot of real-world shit that most people would love to skip." This is why Maguire's Spiderman is more relatable: he actually has to deal with everyday life, and it's hard, even though he has super powers. It shows that he is one of us, and (as Aunt May says) we all have a bit of a hero inside of us. It makes him relatable. Not everyone is a scientific genius with a hot scientific girlfriend who is madly in love with us and is super supportive. However, most of us have gone through struggling to keep a job, struggling with finances, and struggling with a relationship. That's what makes Maguire more relatable, and therefore, in my opinion, a better character. That, and the fact being a snarky jackass is his exception, not his norm.

[@Yoyomo124]

Cano Lathra yes very well put

[@wtfisdaking99]

Thats cause toby looks like an actual adult. Cant keep him as a high schooler for more than 30 minutes

[@AJ-cq5pw]

Cano Lathra That's the exact reasons why I love the Tobey Maguire versions better. Mainly the first and second

[@babybuntin1]

Most of us have gone through a loss, as well as tried to be there for the ones we still have. We also try and be a better person after each faliure or success; new films simply have a better overarching continuity. It feels unnatural and forced when Tobey makes a quip, cause he's given little time to actually gain this much confidence. Even by the end of the first movie, he still is relatively unsure of himself. With Garfield, he's like that already, so it makes more sense, coupled with the fact that his jokes are funnier.

[@raquelgue07]

Come on tell me Maguire had three movies now many did Andrew get to movies so sad so sad

[@theelderworm9134]

Which one would I rather come save the day? Toby. No question for me. Bud runs into a burning building without any powers. What did Garfield do? Stop a bully from picking on some kid?

[@dnmstarsi]

Same. Sure he can remind us that he eventually went into his Emo Peter phase and became super geeky as opposed to what happened in the comics and cartoons but IDC. It's stupid but memorable and still fun to watch plus his hits beat the misses.

[@carlhiller9659]

Yeaaahhhh

[@AuroraOwlQueen]

But Tom Holland is Hawt

[@mv9370]

@@AuroraOwlQueen Peter Parker isn't supposed to be hot....

[@mv9370]

@KEEGAN E SMITH he already had powers tho

[@sonicbelmont300]

WOW ok, immediately gonna call you on the action. You just so happened to leave out the end fight of the first Raimi film where it straight up looks like Peter's going to be murdered by Norman. It's brutal and bloody and at times hard to watch. And then the way the backflip over the glider is edited, holy shit, it's just fantastic. And then YOU'RE GONNA SAY THE SWINGING IS BETTER IN THE TASM MOVIES?!?! ARE YOU MAD?!?! They created the fucking SPIDER-CAM for the Raimi movies, allowing it to dip and drop through the city while still swinging back up to follow Spidey effortlessly throughout. I'll probably continue to edit this as I watch the review. Edit: Villains. Harry in TASM 2 is flat, boring, and stupidly over the top with his tantrum. Doc Ock in the second film is tragic and his sacrifice is heartbreaking. Romance. Andrew and Gwen WOULD be adorable if they didn't hold on so many weird and awkward scenes with random head tilts, scoffing, chuckling, and dialogue. While MJ has issues, she's also her own person as well. We see how disfunctional her home life is and why she becomes attracted to Peter, because when she tells him about her dream that everyone else has seemingly laughed at, he tells her it's important and she should follow her dreams. And there's another issue I have with TASMs relationship but I'm gonna get into that in the next point. Spider-Man. Andrew absolutely DOES NOT STICK TO ANYTHING CONSISTENTLY. He cannot leave Gwen the fuck alone and stalks her constantly, while also pushing her away over and over. Which I understand happens in the Raimi trilogy, but it happens over the course of 3 films, not over and over again in one. Of course it's harder to see Tobey's Peter as Spider-Man because that's the point. The TASM movies biggest flaw is that they make it Peter's destiny to be Spider-Man, completely shitting all over the character. The point was that it could've happened to anyone, and Peter had the misfortune of it happening to him. That's why Tobey is so compelling, because this kid who GROWS into a struggling, living paycheck to paycheck man decides to continue being Spider-Man. He doesn't quit because it's hard, he quits because he was having an identity crisis which made him lose his powers and even powerless, he rushes into a BURNING BUILDING TO SAVE A CHILD!! Tobey's Spider-Man was not only more accurate to the character, but was more compelling and interesting than Andrew's cocky, mean-spirited asshole. I love you NC but I have a difficult time believing you saw the original Trilogy again before making this review as your points were generic and completely off base.

[@DeathDealer_1021]

opinion

[@bustedchicken9821]

Agreed, raimi's is better

[@RJIS]

Sonic Belmont it’s his opinion calm down

[@gadielgonzalez2755]

Tldr

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

That’s just the nostalgia critic’s opinion

[@jacksonstapleton8054]

24:37 so you would not cry if your uncle got shot and died, best friend was killed right in front of you? Total Bull shivic!

[@kensstudio0806]

He cries too much and that's not how men do everyday.....

[@jakeproven5931]

Jackson Stapleton also Garfield cried 5 times well 6 if u count that deleted scene from 2 maguire cried 4 times I don’t understand it why do people focus on that so much

[@jakeproven5931]

This whole maguire crying joke really needs to stop especially since he doesn’t even do it that much only 4 times 4 times Garfield does it 5 times technically 6 and no body makes jokes about that I’m gonna do this I drop a penny maguire: OKay Garfield:crying why’d u drop it how dare u bo ho

[@PPinho2711]

Jake Proven that's just because Maguire's crying face was really weird… For me there's no problem with Maguire crying, it's just that his crying face is memeworthy

[@jakeproven5931]

Paulo Pinho 2711 it’s not funny and it’s no reason to make fun of a performance especially when the other guy cries more

[@antman1001000]

"Which one would you rather be." I'd like to be the guy who had no powers and still had the courage to run into a burning building to save a little girl instead of the selfish douchebag who promised a dying father that saved his life minutes earlier to stay away from Gwen to protect her and then almost immediately give the middle finger to that promise.

[@iloveanimoos787]

My thoughts exactly

[@monsterhanna6691]

And yet Gwen died because of it and he suffered the consequences, but I wouldn't say he deserved it.

[@casper3105]

Excuse me Nostalgia critic but didn't you say that Michael Keaton was Better Batman Than Christian Bale Because No one would suspect that this guy is Batman? and now you're suddenly saying that Mcguire Is a Bad spiderman because no one would believe this version of peter parker is spiderman. Either i smell a bias or Bullshit or maybe both.

[@D.p663]

It's-a-me Sali

[@connieallen6804]

Okay you’re reaching a lot

[@legoironman32001]

maguire*

[@coolmathsgamesmanager8137]

It meant as in a movie.

[@beancheesedip8337]

Well, Doug was saying that Michael Keaton was the better Batman because he managed to capture both Bruce Wayne and Batman, the socialite that could assuage people's suspicions and the brooding hero that could strike fear into criminals. In this, Spider-Man is just a dude, so he doesn't need to worry about rubbing elbows with tons of people and has the media breathing down his neck, meaning that those eccentricities can be presented a little more without worry. Of course the actor is gonna need to bring that side out in their performance. If not, the audience is gonna be scratching their heads like, "THIS guy is Spider-Man?" Also, of course there's "bias", its a little something called an opinion. You may not agree with it or even like it, but you gotta live with it.

[@Yesterdaysmaybe]

I always personally loved the original toby McGuire films, and I always think of him as the definitive Spider-Man. What makes his Spider-Man a classic is he plays spidey like an every-man: He's flawed, his life is messy and his powers and purpose as a whole makes it all the more complicated. Not every guy is a natural-born badass. Having a guy who's barely considered an adult in the real world trying to balance his life as peter parker and his duties as Spider-Man is played in an interestingly realistic way by Mr. McGuire. In the costume he is totally believable as the hero-but when he's just peter parker, you wouldn't think so. And that's the point, which is why it works so beautifully.

[@melancholyentertainment]

Why didn't you have best Aunt May as a category? Her role is more important than you'd think.

[@melancholyentertainment]

The Sam Raimi films would have won best Aunt May btw.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Mysterious Enigma Might as well have a best Uncle Ben category then.

[@melancholyentertainment]

Lol. Fair enough.

[@svclana4ever]

+Mysterious Enigma You are correct. But Doug doesn't know that because he doesn't know Spider-Man.

[@hardcoreking52]

i think because her and Ben can fit in Supporting Characters. There weren't many returning characters in TASM series. It wouldn't be very fair

[@ramtube826]

Toby Maguire peter parker did NOTquit being spiderman because it was just HARD. He LOST his powers!

[@TyMarshall007]

and followed the best comic story ever Spider-man No more

[@jasonsmith3032]

but didn't he lose his powers because he lacked faith in himself? Because he was already shaken over chosing spider man or mj? He was undecided and that doubt of spider man being the best choice led to his loss in power. He had already made his mind up to quit which is why he was so happy, he only got his powers back when he realized that he needed them to protect the woman he loved. When that desire became necessary is when he chose to do what was needed rather than what he wanted.

[@sliut1]

@@jasonsmith3032 Are you sure is not in the part where he jumps of a building or the part he saves a little girl from a fire

[@jasonsmith3032]

@@sliut1 he, is always spiderman but his powers were inconsistent when his faith was shaken. When he started to lose his webbing the second time, he comments on it and says, "Not again" His powers fell short but he survived the fall because he needed too. When he saved the little girl he had the strength and ability because he needed to have it. You seen him for a second waver thinking spidey could do it, but can I? He still doubted. When Doc oc attacked though, he knew that he could not and only spidey could.

[@noahanimates5005]

RAM TUBE yeah making it hard for him to do it!

[@atiqahdiyana5665]

OK no. I draw the line at you saying Toby quit being spiderman cause it was 'hard'. personally I find the both of them incomparable and I love them equally. but the whole point of the second Toby movie was to break spiderman. it wasn't just hard, it was practically impossible. everything in his life was going against him. he was losing his job. not making enough money. aunt may was struggling financially as well. he was failing his university classes (which isn't a joke) because he was just so exhausted and quitting wasn't even a thought until his powers started shutting off. you can't complain about the second movie being spiderman feels so lost when the whole point is in fact that that he WAS lost. that's like going into a star wars movie and being disappointed that they have jedis. what made the second movie so amazing was that it addressed how depressingly exhausting and unrewarding life as a superhero was and whether it was worth the effort. especially for someone like Peter who was definitely just a simple everyday guy going through the same issues and problems. not a billionaire with limitless resources. not a soldier out of time with government backing and support. the third definitely messed that up and repeated way too many things. but it doesn't feel fair to undermine the progress made by the second because of it.

[@LedgenddOFgaming]

Atiqah Diyana I completely agree.

[@Zombiewithabowtie]

Nail hit squarely on the head. I found that much more relatable than the AS-M because while I can identify with the idea of stopping because of the loss of a loved one, that is what propels Peter Parker to become Spider-Man in the first place. And honestly, for all that they tried to be the more serious movies I found Gwen's death a bit goofy. But with the original series, Peter giving in as Spider-Man because his life was rapidly becoming a train wreck and he needed the space to breathe is absolutely more identifiable. Nearly everyone goes through something similar at one point or another where the momentum just builds up and something has to give. For Peter, it was being Spider-Man. Also, the originals have J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson. That's an automatic win in my book.

[@kaori17az]

Yes, I agree with you

[@TheReverantChoir]

Garfield only stops being Spiderman for like less than 10 minutes, so it's not a big plot they embarked on.

[@mediawatcher9225]

Atiqah Diyana that's something that nostalgia critic missed, Toby maguires was struggling with being both spiderman and Peter Parker, also it went on for 30 minutes in the film, how long did Andrew Garfield stop being spiderman? About 4 minutes.

[@KanishQQuotes]

Dr octopus waking up in the hospital in spider man 2 and killing the entire staff Is the most genuinely terrifying scene I've ever seen Raimi brought evil dead back

[@benm5970]

Y’know, I don’t think the Raimi trilogy is nearly as “Goofy” as Doug makes it out to be

[@Colefivenumbers]

Trust me I think the Raimi trilogy is super fun, but it’s extremely goofy. That’s why I love it

[@McBrisket]

It is, but that’s what makes it so good

[@henith7850]

It was meant to be corny because of the comic book tone.

[@beautifulmeeses]

It's goofy, and stupid, but in a good way. The amazing Spiderman movies to me are just stupid. The Raimi ones know they're campy, so they don't take them selves to seriously. The Amazing spider Man moves try to take themselves to seriously, making us laugh at it, not with it. This is basically just a condensed version of a video by... Schaffralis? Shraffcalis? Sh-shu-schafrclass... The one crab guy.

[@madhattergamer3567]

@@beautifulmeeses Nah, it's just goofy. not stupid. and FYI, they do take themselves seriously. Sam raimi's one had literal stunt men in it as my example.

[@blitzburn2871]

The reason Toby is the better Spiderman? Andrews spiderman was not motivated by his moral responsibility to use his powers to protect the innocent, but by revenge and was a jackass that put civilian lives at risk so he could crack jokes and wear silly hats! Not to mention that the old movies were more focused and tonally consistent. Yeah, they were campy, but they knew it and they ran with it.

[@jakeproven5931]

BlitzBurn Spider-Man got everything that made him be a hero from his aunt and uncle his responsibility and his determination to do good he got that from his aunt and uncle!! I have no clue what may and Ben were teaching him in the Marc Webb films since Ben was so cruel to Peter

[@ZealStarMedia]

What did Ben teach Peter in the original? Oh that's right... "Fighting bullies is bad".

[@ZealStarMedia]

Jake Proven Oh really? Because Ben told him it was wrong to fight a bully, Peter spends the rest of his life beating up bullies, the original trilogy had no idea what “With great power comes great responsibility” meant, they just butchered it for a catchy line

[@flarrowverse112]

Neither were initially motivated by responsibility. That's all part of the lesson. Initially they become Spider-Man for selfish reasons (money for a car/revenge on Uncle's killer) and then later understand the importance of responsibility (after seeing the killer/after the lizard becomes a threat).

[@twotonetarget]

@@flarrowverse112 This guy gets it. Especially in Andrew's case which alot of people miss. It's a character progression which people just mistake that the movie crew forgot about the finding the killer subplot. Peter actually starts off as a revenge seeking bully only to find a father at risk of losing his child, mirroring Peter and his losses. It is infact here where Peter learns being Spider-Man is not about taking revenge, it's about ensuring no one ever goes through what he did. This being the reason why I thoroughly enjoy the first TASM film, the bridge scene in particular. It oozes with character.

[@MMCLLC7]

@17:57 "I promise, it has nothing to do with anything" "then why are you even saying it?" That was hilarious!!!!!!! Perfect timing, delivery

[@bigwhopper6501]

He stops being spiderman in 2 because he was depressed, and when that hits it hits hard trust me especially when u have so many responsibilities

[@spencertodd9787]

That’s the whole point Tobey was detured by the stress of the Job but Andrew kept pushing through that until the person he loved most died. That shows that Garfield is always a stronger hero that would go through a whole lot more for the needs of the many

[@bigwhopper6501]

@@spencertodd9787 I wasn't trying to or mention that his reasoning was greater than Garfield's 🤦‍♂️ I was explaining it more than nostalgia critic who just settled for "it's too hard" which is an over simplification of Tobeys situation

[@spencertodd9787]

@@bigwhopper6501 If at the end of the Argument your point isn’t that Garfield is inferior... then their is not point in further elaboration especially since it shows how little elaborating it requires to prove Andrew Garfield superior

[@bigwhopper6501]

@@spencertodd9787 that's right, I wasn't arguing who was superior, I was just explaining tobeys situations more than NC

[@fisher3317]

Yeah, the point of Peter losing his powers in the second film is that, because his life is such a mess at that point, he's lost the will to be Spider-man.

[@aysmr_armyourself346]

There is one line i remember from the new ones: "Poor Peter Parker. No mother. No father. No uncle. All alone."

[@NRF-ee6cp]

He's wrong. He has Aunt May. And had Gwen Stacy.

[@ZealStarMedia]

@@NRF-ee6cp Regardless, its an awesome line.

[@mv9370]

@@ZealStarMedia its not, since he is NOT alone... Are you dumb?

[@ZealStarMedia]

Annoying kid So... his aunt was there watching him get choked out by the Lizard? I don’t remember that scene. Because I’m pretty sure Conners was implying that Spider-Man is alone in general, not that everyone he knows is dead.

[@KingCom4n]

@@mv9370 uh he is alone was there a scene where aunt may helps him no gwen couldnt because she was making the cure in fact the only person their was CAPTIAN STACY WHO YOU KNOW DIED AS ABRUBTLY AS HE SHOWED UP WHAT A BIG HELP HE WAS

[@mozhhosseini982]

Toby actually quit being spider man because he LOST HIS POWERS.

[@williamnguyen8663]

Mozh Hosseini that's kind of stupid tho. The thing that makes a superhero a well hero is the fact that they're willing to fight despite the loss of power because it's the right thing. That's why characters like Batman are cool because they're willing to face danger superhuman level without having any powers

[@williamnguyen8663]

Jedisofreddit the training isn't what makes him Batman. Like how his alien origins isn't what makes superman a hero. It's the fact they don't need powers to do good. The superpowers are just a tool to do good and are losing them should not prevent any hero from doing their job of helping

[@Jdude281]

@@williamnguyen8663 Except his powers is what allows him to help people in first place. Without them he doesn't have the training to continue being a hero. Batman is able to be a superhero because he has the training, and the gadgets to do so. If didn't train for years to be who he is, then he would have been killed by the first punk with a gun he stood up against.

[@williamnguyen8663]

Jdude Gaming Inc. the spiderverse alone proves that it isn't Spider-Man power that makes him a hero. The reason homecoming was such a. Good movie was it proved that Peter Parker made Spider-Man not the other way around. The superpowers are just a tool to fight crime and it is the individual will to do good that makes them the hero. Spider-Man knows martial arts and that alone could be used to stop a lot of average criminals.

[@williamnguyen8663]

Jedisofreddit well guess I'll chalk that up to another problem Toby films had. They forgot that it wasn't the powers that made him a hero but the person he was.

[@CrouTheBlackwing]

Well actually Critic, Maguire's Spidey quit because he was slowly losing his powers, but work induced stress was likely part of it as well.

[@CrouTheBlackwing]

@Ghost they never explained it. It was just "whoops spidey's losing his powers!"

[@devmin_dot_exe6551]

Claude Dixon They butchered the spider-man no more storyline; and he lost his powers because his life sucked in what way is that good writing.

[@devmin_dot_exe6551]

Claude Dixon No we call that lazy writing.

[@jakeproven5931]

Ghost because he has no confidence in himself

[@HyraxusPrimus]

​@@devmin_dot_exe6551 It's less boring and more story relevant than him simply catching a cold/flu.

[@desmondben8576]

Either way I appreciate that there’s been a lot of great spider-man representations over the years. Maguire, Garfield, Holland, Into the Spiderverse, the Ps4 game, and spectacular spider-man. Each of them bring their own different takes on the character and his story in a positive way. Imo he’ll always be Marvel’s most important character

[@MacenW]

He is. I thought he was marvels mascot? I had a marvel poster when I was young and SpiderMan was front and center

[@Asi-Lives46]

@@MacenW Well he was an A list superhero even before the MCU.

[@Smileosaur]

To everyone complaining about Spiderman 2's way of Peter not being Spiderman; In the old movies, he loses his job, he goes broke, still has to pay rent so he has a place to live, and knows that the girl he has a crush on is going to marry someone else. Because of that his confidence goes down. He stops being Spider-Man for _30 minutes._ In The Amazing Spider-Man, he promises Gwen not to be Spider-Man anymore, then Gwen dies. He stops being Spider-Man for about 5 minutes, then goes to "fight" The Rhino. *_STINGS, DOESN'T IT?_*

[@Xetyou]

Um.. But actually in movie time, Peter quits being spider-man in the Amazing Spider-Man for about ten months, I don't know, I forgot. But he does return as spider-man, realizing he should the past as the past, and focus on what he loves doing, being spider-man and being a hero

[@riley5722]

. . . . . I protected you in highschool and now I'm gonna kick your little ass!

[@tombrearley-smith5777]

Riley “Ooh.”

[@inverse4343]

@@riley5722 "Ooh."

[@vengefulkrs9576]

Smileosaur He was also Suffering PTSD

[@tenthdoctor1085]

I prefer the old

[@luishernandezsoto]

Tenth Doctor Doctor! I-it's you! You're here! I agree with you on the old Spiderman

[@sandrols7]

wow... someone who just says 'I prefer', not 'this sucks, because I don't like' Which planet are you from??

[@fluxgoodra9034]

Sandro Swen Galifrey. He's from Galifrey.

[@luchoalma]

I prefer the new. Have a nice day

[@wannabeiroh4658]

Sandro Swen what would expect from a Time Lord???? Especially the Doctor??? Stupidity????

[@rojva29]

At least Tobey’s spider man was able to save his Gwen Stacy from falling from a height

[@talonhayes8934]

Dayyyyaaaaaammmmm. NICE

[@8765-e5u]

Well in a real situation theres no way tobey's spiderman would be able to do that witch is why i like the newer ones for how realistic and funny they are

[@templarplays7458]

He didnt in the comics though, so its more to the comic than the original

[@maxschoen5531]

i wouldn't have. not that one.

[@michaelnally2841]

Plus Gwen was just a plot device in Spiderman 3. At least they made her a character in the amazing Spiderman films.

[@michaelmolzan3001]

The old Peter did show more about how an actual person would respond to the stress of that sort of thing.

[@monsterhanna6691]

I completely agree. I know that if I was a superhero AND still had to worry about my own life, it wouldn't be easy in the slightest way possible.

[@jonathangetachew1522]

The Amazing Spider-Man Has A lot Of Problems, The Original Spider-Man Is Undeniably Better

[@sniperpr924]

Nah andrew is the best

[@StraightEdgeKnight19]

@@sniperpr924 nah

[@sniperpr924]

@@StraightEdgeKnight19 yes

[@StraightEdgeKnight19]

Yandiel Jimenez nah

[@sniperpr924]

@@StraightEdgeKnight19 toney was not a good spider man and hes peter was kinda rare

[@jotjot5437]

Did no one notice that she was wearing a TASM suit while she was defending Toby's Spider-Man

[@JinchK]

Jot Johal I did I just don't think it's that inportant

[@meanmistermason6308]

You mean she was wearing a basketball

[@klintfaber886]

Sir Channing My Name is Jeff Tatum i grew up with wearing basketballs

[@alpaslantopcu2930]

Jot Johal oh thanks

[@profile8289]

Jot Johal I saw that too! I was confused

[@AD744]

I still don't understand how the new films are better because the old films have actually meaning while the new movies were made to me to make the people who did not like the original.

[@kumbi8368]

“Spiderman quit because it was too hard”. Seriously Doug that was barely a surface level analysis. You went over Andrew Garfield with a fine tooth comb but ignored everything that was explicitly shown too you when it came to Tobey. He quit because being Spiderman was ruining his life. His relationship with his friends were suffering, his grades were suffering, he lost one of his jobs, barely being able to pay for rent, and on top of all that he lost his powers! Being Spiderman at that point would be a suicide mission. AND DESPITE ALL THAT he still ran into a burning building risking his life to save a little girl. Andrew Garfield’s Spiderman ignored the dying wishes of his girlfriends father which inevitably led to her death, and then quit because of it! You want him to be the protector of your city rather than Tobey’s Spiderman? Come on man.

[@tasiyeahh]

Tobey McGuire is a better Spider Man. Andrew Garfield looks like a hot Hollywood teen, while Tobey resembles a nerd more. That's what the movie is about, an unattractive nerdy kid who becomes a superhero.

[@TurkeyBushGamer182]

Andrew Garfield is a better Spider-Man and Tobey Maguire is a better Peter Parker

[@Sasu123456789x1]

+KryptoCheeseTalbo truest comment!

[@nigelfuentes5763]

Your both wrong tom holind is the best

[@thetrueforce7226]

Absolutely Tom Holland "is" Spiderman.

[@thedondon911911]

+KryptoCheeseTalbo hell no, Andrew acting like dead pool more than Spider-Man. (Instead of saying jokes and punchlines while getting the job done he messes around) tom is the perfect Spider-Man

[@DigitalAshTCG]

The point of Peter and Mary Jane going back and forth with whether or not to be in a relationship was to show the way Peter was willing to pass on the relationship he dreamed of to protect her, it shows that he is selfless and heroic

[@GBmovieluv]

Yet you can't deny how emotionally crippling that is for both of them

[@hunterolaughlin]

Too bad Mary Jane was such a toxic girlfriend and a toxic friend. I’ll never forgive her for treating Peter like dirt during the second film just because he didn’t show up to her play despite trying his hardest and didn’t stop to think of how much stress he was under in trying to balance both his superhero and adult life. Makes me want to rub some dirt in her eye.

[@Blokewood3]

​@@hunterolaughlinShe didn't know he was a superhero until the end of the 2nd movie. And remember, she asked him out at the end of the 1st movie and he friendzoned her. While the audience knows he was trying to protect her, she doesn't.

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@Blokewood3 Still though, even if she didn’t know about his superhero identity until the end of the film, that’s still doesn’t excuse her treatment of him. She should’ve at least been understanding and sympathetic towards him and forgiven him for not showing up to her play, not hold it a grudge against him. She still acted like a jerk to him throughout the film. If someone treats you like that, it’s best to cut your losses.

[@Ender_Rock]

Teary maguire? So your saying you wouldn't be crying if one of your parental guardians was bleeding out from a fatal gunshot wound on the ground? or how about being thrown through a brick wall, having a grenade blowing up and surviving that? tobey cried when he needed to, so how about you sit down, yeah?

[@richardsphd]

Ender Rock It's not the same, Critic is not a superhero. I can understand crying about Uncle Ben, however after that he is supposed to be better.

[@thecircleoft.e.d2121]

Face it, Nostalgia Critic’s a knob about the Raimi films; apparently, he likes watching shit.

[@trippcory]

@Chris Campbell Entertainment I think he cried when Harry forced MJ to break up with him

[@ciarangrainger2465]

You’re forgetting it’s Channel Awesome. They don’t care about others feelings.

[@trippcory]

@@ciarangrainger2465 Doug Walker from his Bridge To Terabithia review: Now, I am not one to disagree with other people's opinions...unless they are stupid and not my own.

[@tomwills5231]

Critic, you forget,” poor peter Parker,” said by the lizard!

[@yoshigamemaster6127]

True but still not as quotable as *PIZZA TIME*

[@EthanMightWin]

What about "it's my birthday time to blow out my candles"

[@SparkTheSnorlax]

@@EthanMightWin It's actually "It's my Birthday. Now it's time for me to light my candles!"

[@scarletwyvern3753]

Or the always classic Don’t you know? I’m Electro

[@bardonardo2001]

she's wearing a TASM 1 suit while defending Maguire....WHAT?!!?!?!?!?!

[@melancholyentertainment]

TASM 1 Had a bad costume. The colors were bland, dark and washed out, the spider on the chest was ridiculously oversized, the eyes were too small and were gold for some reason, etc.

[@bardonardo2001]

Mysterious Enigma well he made them out of sunglasses which (in terms of lore) is accurate

[@melancholyentertainment]

Ah. Makes sense.

[@ANT96-x8d]

I am so glad that the newer films actually showed Peter designing the Spider-suit and web-shooters because it's an important element of SHOWING Peter's gift with science and technology,which doesn't happen in the original films because we only HEAR about it(which isn't always believable unless you SHOW it).

[@svclana4ever]

+Anthony Nunez They show it a lot, most prominently in the scene where Peter talks to Dr. Octavius, understands immediately what he's doing and even figures out there's a miscalculation. That's pretty impressive. And in case I have to remind you, Andrew's Peter needed KZbin videos to learn how the most basic things work and even then he didn't fully understand it. They totally dumbed him down. Coincidentally, Tobey's Peter didn't have to create web-shooters because he had organic ones. Duh.

[@mitchellmayne5002]

Am I the only one who noticed that Hyper fan girl was wearing a costume based off the amazing spider-man suit and not the maguire suit?

[@teresajames9782]

no

[@havikmania2006]

OOPS

[@danielwoods5601]

DON'T ASK WHY!!!

[@JacobButter]

Well, there's a twist.

[@tristanmccann6838]

Yeah, because good story and characters aren’t important at all. Good fight scenes and good romantic lead makes the better Movie.

[@morningbowl3156]

Tell that to the Emoji Movie.

[@TrulyyGotIt]

The Sam rami films were goofy and trash

[@jayNicks10]

Yeah, the amazing Spider-Man movies are simply not as good as the original Spider-Man movies.

[@TrulyyGotIt]

@Alex Mackey ok good I'm a DC fan anyways so I dont care but spiderman supposed to be not taken seriously are you deadass?

[@TerribleTake]

The characters were still good in the remake

[@corbyorange1227]

Hyper Fan Girl: THE RAMI MOVIES ARE THE BEST Also Hyper Fan Girl: *wears the amazing spider-man suit*

[@CeriseApple]

Money is a thing. You know.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

@@CeriseApple oh gee, we had no idea.

[@domocracydestroyer8219]

Nostalgia Critic I understand that you think Andrew Garfield is better because he quits because his girlfriend died because he was unable to save he in time but in the first movie her father asked him not to date her anymore but he disobeyed him! That is what caused her to die but in the old one peter broke up with MJ because he wanted protected her and nobody asked her so the old is better.

[@SomeGuyWhoHasAnUnoriginalName]

So you think the old movie is better because Garfield's Spider-Man is a human being that couldn't foresee the whole Gwen dying thing? Even then, Mary Jane is in danger in every fucking movie, it never mattered if she was with Peter or not. That decision accomplished nothing.

[@diddledude5422]

@SavageGrenadier25 With great power comes great irresponsibility

[@holy_banana_2248]

how about this? because the old has spider-man quit because of his internal conflict makes the spider-man less interesting than peter parker

[@tesshawkins9547]

@SavageGrenadier25 Look. Gwen has control over her own life. Not her dad. The old one keeping a promise of not telling Harry his dad is the Green Goblin is something that was a PERSONAL request of Osborne. Gwen's dad was just making decisions for his daughter. Yes, trying to look out for her, but still an unfair request all the same. Garfield Spider-man did feel like it was still his fault, but learned to grow from his failures. He couldn't protect Gwen, but he'll protect everyone he can. Maguire quit because of stress and because of Mary Jane.

[@NIKOJEFE]

Thank you god dang it nostalgic critic u are literally the worst movie review every got pore taste of reasons of not liking the original movies that got rebooted

[@superioricebear2975]

The music in the original Spider-Man Trilogy has the better music

[@bdletoast09]

Man, did you listen the Amazing Spider-Man OST?

[@superioricebear2975]

Elfman does the better soundtrack. Don't get me wrong Zimmer did good but it doesn't mach Elfman's soundtrack

[@bdletoast09]

Agree to disagree I guess, but I'm always pumped up by Zimmer's heroic score.

[@EKTIBETZBD]

Batman 1989 wins.

[@austinkersey2445]

Elfman and Christopher Young's Soundtracks blow the Amazing Movies Soundtrack out of the water. Just listen to the Black Suit theme from Spider-Man 3 or Doctor Octopus' Suite or even the Opening Titles of all of them. I do enjoy the Amazing Spider-Man ( 1 at least), but overall I heavily favor the originals and enjoy the performances. Hell just search up the bloopers on KZbin, I'd pay good money to see all of them.

[@nicholasperl]

Just because Maguire didn't have much success when trying to fix his problems, he still TRIED. Also, Garfield's Spider-man had much more access to tech and people to support him. At this point, Mary Jane felt like Peter was becoming distant from society. She didn't only get mad at him from not going to her play, either. She didn't have much contact with him and probably knew about him not showing up to Connors's classes. Sure, she gets saved a lot, but she isn't a bad character because of that. Remember what happened when Garfield tried to save an ignorant Gwen?

[@Bored_Dionysus]

One line of dialogue said by the villains in the new movies... ok “Poor Peter Parker, no father, no mother, no uncle, your all alone”-The Lizard “You wanted to be the hero you’ve gotta pay the price”- Electro “When you said Spider-Man said no, you meant you said no!” - Green Goblin “I AM THE RHINO”- The Rhino

[@lorne510]

off the top of my head "The itsy bitsy spider went up the waterspout down came the goblin and flushed the spider out."- Green goblin "never wound what you can't kill"- Venom, "Butterfingers"-Doc Ock

[@Bored_Dionysus]

Heer Kommando and your proof of this is?

[@ANT96-x8d]

Workin'angel97 Those lines were too uncomfortably campy and outdated.

[@Aidenkong523]

@@ANT96-x8d like a comic book

[@ANT96-x8d]

@@Aidenkong523 Nostalgia Critic:”But if you're turning it into a movie, wouldn't you want it to be more like a movie?”

[@Agent0range9]

People actually think the Amazing Spider-Man films are better than the Sam Raimi ones? You learn something new everyday.

[@jakeproven5931]

Agent Orange I think that’s starting to die off now

[@dnmstarsi]

It's his opinion and given his thoughts on other stuff like new kids shows, I respect it despite disagreeing with him.

[@shindean]

I think it's just a generational thing, the original movies were the first of their kind and everything mashed well with the director's Style. The newer ones had the expectation of blowing audiences away, but their target audience was now Marvel fans who were expecting better in all categories, not just a few. They weren't bad movies, but they were so average that it didn't make us forget the Sam Raimi ones.

[@TerribleTake]

I’ve liked them more

[@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario]

@@RyansChannel0203 ok

[@Mask0fFate]

NC: Garfield, the superior hero. Me: So you're saying he's a... Superior Spider-Man? I don't care if I'm flamed it was worth it.

[@themojogamer75]

Hey, I chuckled.

[@nickwalker7850]

Well played.. :)

[@blackadder5517]

Touché

[@alchemX]

I dont get it

[@charlezard5579]

+StreetBot there is a comic called the superior Spiderman where doc ock is in Peters body

[@roqlop7956]

Mary Jane was the worst part of the original. She literally cheated on peter with Spider-Man, then on her fiancé with Peter, then on Peter with Harry. She is so bland and hard to watch.

[@LiaManila]

Rock Lopez She cheated on Peter with Spider Man? Huh?

[@teresajames9782]

wait whaa she created on peter with spiderwhaaaa

[@mariobadia4553]

@@teresajames9782 Because she doesn't know that spiderman is peter so she's willing to cheat on him with spiderman

[@Desolation66]

He meant she cheated on Harry with Spider-Man. During the upside down kiss she was dating Harry. She was horrid with cheating.

[@sgray7391]

meta critic says spiderman 2 is sill better than spiderman homecoming. spiderman 73, spiderman 2 83, spiderman homecoming 73.

[@shreksswamp7913]

I love how now the old Spider is still relevant and people still love it and have meme pages dedicated to it but the Amazing Spiderman is very forgotten and nobody talks about it anymore especially not the 2nd one!

[@crimsonmaverick8237]

I personally love Andrew’s Spider-Man. I gotta concede the Peter TASM imagines is pretty much the opposite of the original character. He’s too charismatic and good looking. But his Spider-Man??? Charming, Quippy, Confident, Energetic. That first car thief scene in TASM1 IS amazingly Spider-Man. Tobey however, IS Peter Parker; got the nerdyness DOWN. I just can’t get behind his spider-man. Every quip sounds completely unnatural and undertoned with nervousness. This this video gets one thing for sure: Tobey is the perfect Peter Parker and Andrew is the perfect Spider-Man.

[@ceciliahanemann7148]

U R so right. Besides the grump of channel awesome, I know nobody else that likes the (not)amazing Spiderman movies. They either said "I forgot all about that piece of crap, don't remind me." or "The original Spiderman is way better than the NOT amazing spiderman." and finally "The original Spiderman shall float up into Heaven and the NEVER amazing spiderman should BURN IN HELL!!!!!!!" (ok I made the last one up) (also, I'm sorry that I am overwhelming you with this insane comment)

[@shreksswamp7913]

@@ceciliahanemann7148 a true fan of the Holy Trilogy!

[@ceciliahanemann7148]

@@shreksswamp7913 Thanks :)

[@kingjonstarkgeryan8573]

Because people are children who think nostalgia is equal to being a good movie.

[@backup-qg6nb]

When I was younger I was like"Yeah,it's makes sense Andrew's Spider-Man would win." but now I'm older and this video makes no sense to me anymore,Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man is the best one on the silver screen to date in my opinion.My second favorite is Tom.

[@aminacunningham146]

The reason Toby should’ve won is because he’s more comic accurate bc he’s shy sweet (that way it’s more contrasting when he does put on a suit) and so on Andrew was too cool

[@riadvids1642]

And he also said that tobey is too nerdy and quiet Even though comic spider man is like that

[@rcurl44]

@@aminacunningham146 Have you actually read the comics or played the games or anything else? Tobey Maguire is the worst iteration of Peter Parker. He was fine within the first 30 minutes of the first movie. After that he never evolved from a clumsy dweeb to a confident, witty nerd like Spiderman always does.

[@aminacunningham146]

BEast Mortuary That’s bc he’s still relatively young in the movies??? He evolves into a cooler and less nerdy person much later in adulthood??? I know my shit and he’s still a younger Peter who was never given a chance to become cooler because we never got more movies like the 4th one Sam Raimi was planning ALSO Garfield (who is still a fabulous actor) is NEVER nerdy in the way like he was originally so he’s less accurate

[@rcurl44]

@@aminacunningham146 He had 3 films to grow. Yet he never did. "He's young" is not an excuse to me. Tom Holland is young and yet he pulled off that kind of arc way better than Tobey did. Also, you're telling me Garfield's Parker was never awkward or weird? Did you even watch the movie? He barely knows how to talk to Gwen and even other people sometimes and he was clumsy as hell until he got used to being Spiderman. People call him douchey and not nerdy because he's handsome and the skateboarding scene (which is a bad scene). Also, Garfield actually does a way better job at showing how smart Peter can be. Building stuff like gadgets and his web slingers, working out equations, actually being smart? Even if I conceded that Tobey was the better "representation" of Peter (which I don't agree with), he's still by far the most boring Peter and definitely the most boring and cringy Spiderman. Garfield at least made me laugh. I can't even laugh at how cringy Tobey is nowadays.

[@jabezalynn]

I peraonally think the old Spiderman movies were better than the Amazing Spiderman movies. The villians had more depth. The story made more sense. And Maguire stayed true to the character more than Garfield did. Peter Parker is a nerd. Spiderman is a hero.

[@svclana4ever]

Straight to the point!

[@gimmesympathy7112]

Garfield was also a nerd but just different from most nerd in movies.

[@sethbullard1427]

Loren Nordom Garfield just wasn't a stereotypical nerd. All a "nerd" is, is someone who is extremely interested in one specific thing and has a large amount of knowledge about it.

[@pjdougherty6442]

Honestly, I feel like Peter Parker should be a shy and awkward nice guy outside of the mask, but once he puts the mask on, he lets loose a bit. He makes jokes, he says things he wants to say but wouldn't normally. The anonymity of the mask gives him the freedom to be who he wants to be.

[@batboy5023]

I peraonally think the old ones are better too

[@Mothman1992]

old spiderman wins simply because of JK Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson

[@kris_creations1338]

There was barely a mention of him in this comparison!! He got alot of comedic moments in the old while the new one, he barely had moments at all

[@TheRobobuck]

If I remember correctly Jameson was not in the Amazing movies.

[@thedemonicgoatgaming9074]

TheRobobuck he was, but only in the second one through email

[@darkXwolf17-UD]

Mary Jane= princess peach Gwen Stacy= daisy

[@miguelcastillo3723]

Funny in the comics there reversed Gwen=Peach MJ=Daisy

[@deadaccount.9728]

Gwen is more like that one person in the Mario Galaxy Games imo

[@beautifulmeeses]

@@deadaccount.9728 Rosalina.

[@maverickdarkrath4780]

Wasn't Daisy kidnaped in her only main line appearance... seriously she's only a tomboy because she only appears I'm side line games

[@riadvids1642]

Miguel Castillo I feel like MJ is more like that in mcu

[@RikuVA]

If I can defend the Rami trilogy's actipn real quick: of course they're gonna be stiff while fighting, no villain is a trained martial artist, and neither is Spidey! If anything, their sloppiness kinda aids the idea of Peter getting accustomed to his abilities. Its almost clearly shown with the improvement between SM and SM2, seeing Peter go from stiff movements and punches to having an epic fight on a moving train with all the flips he uses to dodge Doc Ocks attacks while also landing some good hits between movements. (My headcanon gives the point to Raimi's Spiderman) *edit: HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA YOU THINK HARRY FROM TASM2 HAD _ANY_ DEVELOPMENT?! THE LITTLE SHIT GOT GOBLIN DISEASE AND MADE RASH DECISIONS BASED ON NOTHING!!! IMPULSIVE AND ATROCIOUS!!! (With credit to TASM1, the Lizard was well developed and hit the right notes, at least enough notes to make him feel interesting and not shitty.) **Edit: Did you SERIOUSLY just give the point to Garfield for representing the exact opposite of what Spidey is? The whole point of Spidey is the suspension of disbelief that he could ever be Spidey! Doug, you fucked up so hard this time around!!!

[@bendovbloch7630]

I really love how you defended spidey's action scenes in the old trilogy. I will use these arguments in future debats, ty :3

[@monsterhanna6691]

I was on-board with you UNTIL the very end of your comment. Doug is human just like everybody else, so there's no reason to hate on him for his mistakes or because you don't agree with him. It's still HIS opinion.

[@pixilatedink.7920]

Honestly, I like Andrews version of Harry, he's like Harry from the original movies yet he didn't have that development that made Harry special in the original trilogy. Making him more of a big threat rather than a little threat turned into a hero at the but I do agree it was Missed potential

[@pixilatedink.7920]

@@monsterhanna6691 all he said was he fucked up what?

[@Damon242]

Spider-Man 2 is considered one of the best ever comic book films The Amazing Spider-Man films are completely forgettable films And I can't believe that 'story' wasn't one of your categories...

[@evolvedturtleproductions7600]

Story was the first category. Did you watch the actual video?

[@thewordoflynx8095]

Damon242 It's one of the worst superhero movies ever created

[@thewordoflynx8095]

Damon242- I was talking about TASM2.

[@thewordoflynx8095]

RipLock Gaming Wasn't talking to you.

[@thewordoflynx8095]

RipLock Gaming Sorry, i didn't meant to seem too agressive, it's just that i clicked on the wrong comment (yes, i'm f*cking retarded) but don't worry, i'm gonna fix this now.

[@TheMohamoud60]

Doug needs to bring this series back. Like if you agree.

[@AlexH4774]

Like if you don't know what the like button was created for.

[@Starnana]

"Like because I want likes."

[@Quintoslice]

+Somali Kamikaze The mad max review was kind of an old versus new, but I see what you're saying.

[@Gauchesuede123]

Maguire is too emotional? Andrew spent 80% of the movie with his emotional whispering and being a goddamn emo.

[@Skipszz]

My choices from best to worst: Spider-Man 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming Spider-Man 1 The Amazing Spider-Man Spider-Man 3 The Amazing Spider-Man 2

[@bdletoast09]

I would put the first Amazing Spider-Man on the top of the list, rather than that, I agree.

[@lewis213b7]

Prof. Toast definitely not Andrew doesn’t embody anything that is Spider-Man character wise

[@bdletoast09]

His adorkable attitude or the way his powers made him brash and over-confident are what I found in his interpretation to be closer to the Spider-Man I love than anything McGuire did. I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but there are a lot of great things in this movie that you guys don’t even acknowledge only for the sake of nostalgia.

[@babyyoshi3099]

I would switch Spiderman 3 and The Amazing Spiderman. Yeah, The Amazing Spiderman was better quality, but it was the most bland and forgettable superhero movie I have ever seen. At least Spiderman 3 was memorable in how bad it was...

[@JulianneStingray]

big agree I was gonna say the same thing

[@joshpvgvideogamesandanimer5054]

Why does every time cgi is brought out, people complain old cgi was bad. Get over it. Back then, cgi wasn't that developed yet

[@BlazenSpirit99]

Even back then, they thought it looked terrible, especially after Jurassic Park. Roger Ebert himself gave it a thumbs down because of how bad it looked, saying he looks like a cartoon.

[@B-Mag]

doesn't mean it's good

[@valentinean]

But it's so over used. We don't need CGI every 5 seconds. Maybe action scenes where there are stunts that are pretty deadly, but the more you use it, the more terrible it fucking looks. If they used it less, it would look way better and it would be harder just to spot the terrible looking parts.

[@BlazenSpirit99]

@Heer Kommando That's kinda my point, though. It didn't age well.

[@UmarTahir]

@@BlazenSpirit99 Interesting. So the time period excuse doesn't really work then

[@davidranderson1]

Wow. The old is so clearly superior. Garfield is not either my Peter Parker or my Spider-Man. Each movie-goer can obviously have their own preference, but Maguire's take on both sides of the character is closer to the source material, more relatable, and more appealing.

[@bdletoast09]

Well, source material... It's a comic. Stories and characters are evolving. It seems to me that Garfield does a way better portrayal of the modern Spider-Man.

[@mv9370]

Prof. Toast Is the new spiderman an asshole?

[@reggiefreeborn2143]

modern peter wouldn't steal some random guys pass card and watch as he got dragged out of the facility.

[@bdletoast09]

reggie freeborn clearly not, but at this point of the movie Peter isn’t Spider-Man yet. He hasn’t learned his lesson about responsibility and is still a bit douchey, as the original Peter was.

[@commanderspyder5432]

How is the old movies' Spider-Man anything like the source material? He barely cracked a single joke lol

[@lonestar98]

15:30 "It's my birthday, and it's time to blow out my candles" lmfaooooo

[@UBERGEEKZILLA]

The action for the newer ones might be flashier...but they lack the feeling and emotion the fight scenes in the old ones had. The best fight imo was the final battle in the first movie. When Goblin threatens to finish MJ " nice and slow" you truly feel the anger, adrenaline, and desperation that spider-man is experiencing as he gives it everything he's got to take Goblin down.

[@knightofapple3350]

"Lack of emotion in fights." Have you seen the last 15 minutes of TASM2?

[@flamer2001]

That part was a bit forced IMO

[@coletrainhetrick]

+ScreenStuff that's supposed to carry the entire series?

[@KeithMuirMusic]

What, were gwen steals a police car (Lol what?) and gets herself killed because spider mans hand shaped web couldn't reach her in time? Damn how emotional.

[@K1photos]

cut this annoying chick and do these yourself please

[@chimeratheo1855]

I have issue with the last point. Andrew Garfield quit because his girlfriend died WILLINGLY. WITH HIS POWERS INTACT. Tobey Maguire quit because he was LITERALLY LOSING HIS POWERS. Tobey would have continued being Spider-Man even if Mary-Jane got married or even died. Because he feels it's his duty, his responsibility. He would continue on being Spider-Man until the grave. He only stopped because his powers were fading away. Andrew would quit at the slightest family loss. I would rather have Tobey to be the true Spider-Man.

[@T-REX-KNIGHT]

Chimera Theo tobey powers stop working due to stress

[@chimeratheo1855]

Yes. But he didn't decide on his own to stop being Spider-Man, he had no other choice. Garfield on the other hand...

[@lisarutledge2034]

Yeah, that's true

[@ericdxfan511]

His powers didn't stop working due to stress. It was because he wouldn't tell Mary Jane how he felt about her and she was moving on with another guy. Ock foreshadowed this earlier in the movie (If you keep something as complicated as love stored up inside of you, it can make you sick). EDIT: I messed up, it was due to stress.

[@chimeratheo1855]

That's stress.

[@Draukagrissah]

Spiderman 2 is still the best Spiderman movie, on its own. Molina owns it as Doc. Oc, Maguire is at his most awesome as Peter AND Spiderman, although it's not a lot it's still the most interesting Mary Jane ever gets, the action is AMAZINGLY GOOD, the story is interesting, it has a lot less corniness... it's the best out of the five movies mentioned in this video, hands down. Also it inspired the Spiderman 2 video game, easily the best Spiderman game we've ever gotten. It just wins.

[@spanishreptile3933]

Draukagrissah Ultimate Spiderman is the best Spider Man game

[@brycebitetti1402]

Commander Shepard Dude, it isn't even out.

[@sethbullard1427]

Draukagrissah Homecoming is the best Spiderman movie ever.

[@loganrenfrow2544]

DeadlyGapple Honestly I still think it's second. Spider-Man 2 is still my favorite.

[@nsasupporter7557]

Spider-Man 1 and 2 were equal, they were the best and only good Spider-Man movies

[@charliesketchman4337]

Tobey: I’m better Andrew: You didn’t perfect Spider-Man like d-. *Tom shoots web at their mouths* Tom: Are you guys done?

[@tomlinson1710]

Charlie Sketchman lol

[@Billy-qw8ub]

Tobey takes his suit away

[@cachorrao0703]

Tom, the Iron Man jr?

[@droid16alpha69]

And then came homecoming

[@josephlankford5541]

New Old vs New.... not really. Homecoming was the best.

[@deadponic117]

yeah no, I don't think so, after the disaster that was civil war, Spider-Man is now officially a traitor and doesn't even deserve to have his own movies, the concept of civil war was great, but the fact that they had to turn one of the greatest superheros of all time against everything he stood for is bullshit, Peter should've seen through Tony's lies, and in the film, hes literally blackmailed into helping him out, also Tom Hardy doesn't compare to Toby McGuire and he doesn't bring the goofiness, even the costume they totally messed up, and it wasn't created by peter himself, it was created by Stark and given to Peter, this is the guy who created his own web shooters and web fluid, and in the comics, also created the suit, but youre telling me he was just gifted the suit? I don't buy it

[@mfwspew]

Negasonic 117 what the fuck.

[@Whoisthatguy906]

Negasonic 117 You don't get out much do you?

[@deadponic117]

I went to see civil war, I bought the civil war comics, I have the original spiderman comics, and I can now say that spiderman is a traitor

[@lachlanwinter6372]

Story - Raimi films hands down. First two films have a flowing structure and aren't convoluted which can't be said about the Amazing Spider-Man films. Action - The train scene alone is enough to warrant it having the best action but as does the brutal fight between Green Goblin and Spiderman. Also, as you say in your BVS review we need to care about the characters to care about the fights and quite frankly I don't care for the characters in the Amazing Spider-Man series. Andrew Garfield is so unlikable as Spider-Man, Gwen is an idiot for constantly "wanting to be there" and dies because of it. These are just examples. Villains - The hammyness and over the top nature of the Raimi villains makes them great in the first two films. The Amazing Spider-Man villains are so forgettable, so bland and have backwards motivations. Seriously, the Lizards plan is to to turn the city into Lizard people. Electro is angry at Spiderman for getting spotlight? Since when was that Electros motivation? At least in Spider-Man 3 i understand the motivations of Sandman (his daughter), Venom (jealously of Peter Parker) and New Goblin (Harry feeling betrayed by Peter). Love - no defence for Mary Jane. Admittedly Garfield and Stone are great on screen together. This is the only thing good about those films. Spiderman - Tobey Macguire is hands down a better Spider-Man. He actually portrays the geeky, awkward side of Peter Parker that is needed that adds to the dichotomy of Spiderman. The whole point like you said about Keatons Batman is that he is perfect because you can't imagine him in the suit and it's the same with Macguire. He is an everyman that is so much more relatable. Andrew Garfield is unlikable and is just a jerk for the sake of it. As you point out he is the reason for people dying in the Rhino scene, he only becomes Spider-Man for his personal vendetta and yes is quippy but is an asshole as seen in that scene with the robber. Again just a few examples. 4-1 Raimi films

[@Godzillakingofkaiju1]

Except, Spidey's kinda been known to be a wisecracker.

[@SpeedDemon_Editzzz]

I know tjis is late comment But man dont break my heart by saying "no defense for m.j. " Shes hot you know

[@dylanogg347]

@@SpeedDemon_Editzzz "Hubba-hubba."

[@SpeedDemon_Editzzz]

@@dylanogg347 Yes shes my wifey

[@hunterolaughlin]

That’s not enough to validate her as a character.

[@belacickekl7579]

At this point, "Into the spider-verse" sweeps them all

[@nolandavis1129]

Belac Ickekl it really doesn’t

[@mmishelovka]

@William Chikaonda wait wha- how??! i'm genuinely curious why you didn't like it

[@High_Priest_Jonko]

I watched Into The Spider-Verse without an open-mind, thinking the whole time "How can you replace Peter Parker?" but then he shows up and basically does a Luke Skywalker where he hangs up the suit. And I thought it was really well done how they introduced a new generation of Spiderman.

[@salarzx62090]

@@nolandavis1129 yeah it does, take your nostalgia goggles off

[@GBmovieluv]

Even though I still say the best Stan Lee cameo is the one shown in this Old VS New the rest of Into the Spider-verse was very cool

[@scarletspider119]

"Poor Peter Parker!" "You're a fraud spiderman! Yeeeurrgh!" "This is not over little Spider!" "It's my birthday...so I'm gonna light my candles!" Any of those ring a bell?

[@Aidenkong523]

Nope

[@jaddaher3823]

As if those are that good

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

@Merciless Freak that's... actually kinda true

[@analeahsalcido7522]

@Merciless Freak pizza time,rent,go web,hey kiddo let mom and dad talk for a moment,for me the choice to live an ordinary life is no longer an option,i will not die a monster,where do all these guys come from,no matter what I do no matter how hard I try the ones I love will always be the ones to pay and with great power comes great responsibility.

[@soupman8828]

@@analeahsalcido7522 im gonna put some dirt in your eye, you want forgivness get religon, oh boy yea, i'll take the staff job double the money, ooo my spidey sence is tingiling if ya know what i mean, just to name a few more

[@mistersweetheart4454]

I'm on Hyper Fan Girls side on this one.

[@brandoncornwell3778]

You and me both

[@stonecoldsteveaustin2095]

Yus

[@Dr.snitzelballs]

Same

[@gummygumdrop1516]

Same! I love the original ♥️!!!

[@dgharet1210]

Me too! The old ones arent perfect but id MUCH rather watch the first trilogy over the amazing movies anyday! They were actually fun and entertaining to watch the other ones lack the charm

[@nslater1388]

So...we're just dismissing MJ's acting career in the original trilogy and her struggle to make ends meet in the very first film? Not very objective, but it's Critic's show.

[@michaeliv284]

Was it all that important? She was eye candy and made to be the damsel in distress... three times! Four times if you count her being used by Goblin and Venom/Sandman as two different kidnappings! Hell, I've seen more chemistry in my orange juice At least Gwen actually helped with the antidote for The Lizard.

[@michaeliv284]

And also jump around from boy to boy like rats from sinking ships and had to be saved on an average of 3.5 times per movie. She was eye candy and a dumbass in distress. Plain and simple.

[@ericdxfan511]

Mary Jane defended herself and saved Peter a few times in the Raimi trilogy. They just didn't beat it over your heads like TASM films did.

[@iambuhlockay8007]

@@michaeliv284 She was a 3 dimensional character with flaws. She was not just eye candy.

[@brandonspain12345]

@@iambuhlockay8007 Uh-huh. Sure she is...

[@teriosshadow17]

I love how he leaves out the supporting cast and focuses only in love interest. Because Uncle Ben and Aunt May were never that important, right? Also he put story in first part and character as deciding factor. Even though Story should have been deciding factor as in his other old vs new videos. That should have guaranteed the victory for Sam Raimi Trilogy.

[@motor4X4kombat]

they are pretty much the same, with the only diference that the new one are more cynical and they have more screen time, but outside from that its not that worth the talk because theres little diference. even the death of ben parker in oth version look the same and sound the same (with a few elements diferent in the background), kinda like the beuty and the beast remake

[@teriosshadow17]

motor4X4kombat Except that he completely vanishes and everyone basically forgets Uncle Ben after he died in TASM. He may have more screen time but the way he dies was wrong. It was his own fault to lunge himself at the guy with gun who wasn't threatening anyone. I forgot to mention JK Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson. Perfection.

[@monsterhanna6691]

He explained why he did this. It's called SPIDER-MAN, so of course he would leave the best and most important part for last. You can have a Spider-Man movie, but if it doesn't have a good Spider-Man that actually drives the story and is the main character, then what's the point?

[@teriosshadow17]

@@monsterhanna6691 Fair enough, but then again i made that comment 5 years ago so my thoughts have been changed. That being said, i wholeheartedly disagree with him on lot of his points including who is the best Spiderman(Don't get me wrong, Andrew does amazing job as Spider-Man but the writing didn't do him any favours) Spider-Man is not someone who should be power fantasy or something we wish to be like because Spider-Man aka Peter Parker is supposed to be everyman like us. And yes, Peter gave up being Spiderman in the comics similar to how Raimi did it.

[@thatrandomnoah1817]

Remember that time when nostalgia critic said that the Amazing Spiderman reboot was better than the original? Yeah I've been suppressing that thought too. (Made some decent points but still)

[@rcurl44]

I still agree with him. Everyone says that the Sam Raimi films are campy and corny on purpose but there are a lot of nonsensical parts that people will just flat out ignore. Sorry, but I think ASM is better than SM

[@coolnerdlll6053]

@@rcurl44 At least Raimi got Uncle Ben's death and the suit design right. TASM1 did not.

[@aidanredding8058]

Yes because god forbid someone have a different opinion

[@SWDude2710]

@@coolnerdlll6053 maybe not Uncle Ben's death, but the suit design I agree with.

[@trendytechware6081]

Are you joking? Harry and Peters relationship in the new movies is terrible. Harry isnt even in the first one and then he shows up out of the blue in the next one. Also, Norman osborne was so forgettable in those films. Every word he said was a cliche.

[@michaeliv284]

And yet the retcon with the Sandman was good? Mary Jane and John Jamerson's wedding? Venom, one of the greatest Spiderman villains ever, getting 10 minutes at the end?

[@farrelsamuel1164]

Michael Iv the video said what you just said. But didn't mention about how bad the relationship between harry and peter.

[@michaeliv284]

I believe the answer is "who cares"

[@candacedrennen5626]

Shut up

[@AJ-cq5pw]

TrendyTechWare completely agree it was more developed in the older ones

[@NathanMadden98]

The old spiderman combat might have been slower, but it always felt more personal.

[@unknownchicken2284]

Chuggapyro yeah it felt like you where there in the fight my I watching it threw shaky cam jump cuts

[@Sarah-zf1kp]

Yeah and it didn't have a million cuts like combat does in today's films.

[@gimmesympathy7112]

The new one felt personal, people just didn't connect with these charecters because they were to busy being but hurt over the fact that its diferent from what they grew up with.

[@justbny9278]

darth raptor or maybe because people were occupied trying to understand the subplots.

[@gremlinz8612]

Chuggapyro The 2012 fights were CGI messes

[@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly]

Rami films had a plot, unlike Webb's whose film was just setups for a Spider-Man cinematic universe

[@MonitoMR]

Haha! What a story Howtostudies!

[@JinchK]

MonitoMR The best part is its based on a true story.

[@gimmesympathy7112]

Don't say ASM didn't have a plot, it in fact had multiple.

[@RigbyD-d1v]

Indeed.

[@rickycollins7723]

+Cal A how do you not see that that is the problem.

[@beamertoy]

Yeah I feel like Doug missed this one. Tobey's Peter Parker was so awkward and hard to accept as Spiderman, but being able to look at that side of him and changing to a successfully free-spirited, energetic, Spiderman really gives the movie more depth. It shows he's more comfortable being Spiderman (who he really is). And that being Peter Parker is as anxious and emotionally volatile as the common person is.... without super powers. but much more amplified because he's holding himself back. What really sold the old Spiderman for me was the fact that there were such defined locations and showed a livelihood on the ground and not swinging between buildings all the time. There were birthday parties, offices, a train, labs, dining rooms, theatres, a festival, a bank, a restaurant, a church. All well defined and hard to forget. The newer Spiderman didn't feel like there were a lot of locations used to create memorable scenes, I felt like there was more scenes of him swinging from building to building way too often. And who can forget the importance of how a good sound track compliments the scenes? I don't say it to sound like a fanboy, but as a critic I still will go with the old Spiderman, without hesitation.

[@kreater120]

before I continue with the video, the best Spider-Man movie ever is Spider-Man 2

[@whatsupbossanova]

The OtakuOne were you disappointed a at Doug's pretty shit arguments?

[@kreater120]

I'm not, if he feels like he doesn't like then that's that.

[@gimmesympathy7112]

Until 2017

[@DAMIENDMILLS]

I think that's universally accepted

[@sethbullard1427]

The OtakuOne Homecoming?

[@GumballAstronaut7206]

Godzilla 1954 (Japanese version) VS Godzilla 2014

[@MoonlitLycan]

Godzilla 2014 would lose every category. Hell, if it was Godzilla 1998 vs Godzilla 2014, the latter would STILL lose and that is a damn shame.

[@gyflies]

+MoonlitLycan Fuck you the 2014 version was pure gold compared to that horrible 1998 version.

[@MoonlitLycan]

+Brandon MacLeod In all honesty I think BOTH versions are the absolute worst films of that franchise. 98 had shitty human characters and writing that is downright sickening and 2014 made Godzilla a small guest star who rarely appeared in the film compared to the boring human cast and those fucking MUTO's

[@gyflies]

***** I am sick and tired of hearing the exact same god damn thing again and again and again and again and again and again and again. It's always, "why did the 2014 version suck?" "because godzilla was barely in it" "but besides that what else was bad about it?" "ummmmm.........Godzilla was barely in it and that makes me bad" "you don't have any other reason" "not really" So please for the love of god stop saying the 2014 version sucked if you can't come up with more than 1 reason as to why it sucks.

[@MoonlitLycan]

+Brandon MacLeod Hey, want to hear a new word that you appearantly don't know exists? OPINION. O.P.I.N.I.O.N. Shocking that someone doesn't like what you do huh? Oh wait, you just want to be a blind little fanboy douchebag who attacks ANYONE who DARES disagree with your golden film. Get over yourself you whiny ass brat.

[@Noname-ut1ye]

Tobey Macguire: Peter Parker. Andrew Garfield: Spider-Man. Tom Holland: The best of both worlds.

[@TheCNotes1]

And he gets to play with the Avengers!

[@JSayelBaldomero]

No name neither he is minimal at best

[@thewordoflynx8095]

No name Tobey maguire: both Adrew garfield: none Tom holland: both

[@ZealStarMedia]

Travmiester24 Well you should watch it, I can under stand holding on to nostalgia even after something just as good comes out (The animated series spiderman will always hold a special place in my heart and I refuse to believe spectacular spiderman is better) But homecoming pretty much is THE perfect spiderman in my humble opinion

[@tounsi_m7ashesh]

Tom holland is : just fine at both

[@megakirbyx]

"Audiences seem split on which series is the better one" No they really don't...