Old West Vignettes: Massacre at Dragoon Springs

[@THR33SIXX3MPYR]

It really is a shame more people don't watch these. This is some of my favorite content you guys do.

[@hisdukeness3037]

I watch it!

[@timharper3390]

I just discovered the series today and intend to watch all of the OW Vignette pieces. Kudos!

[@bobb.9152]

My family had a cattle ranch in that area. My father was born in 1910. He told me so many stories about his dad and other rancheros and many indians helping to case down cattle rustlers and apaches . Which means enemy. Great stuff. Keep it up. Thank you.

[@raygun23]

I love it

[@neddubh4529]

This is the side of the west we never got to see in the old movies, brave, desperate, determined men, struggling to survive in pursuit of a living. Would make an incredible flick even now.

[@tsufordman]

I know y'all recently said that these "Old West Vignettes" get many times fewer views than shooting videos; but rest assured, I watch them all multiple times. These are truly the pinnacle in your collection, all of which are above average videos. Keep it up!

[@patrickfitzsimons753]

Jerry Overfelt 😱

[@zigmaex]

Thank you for NOT putting music in your videos. I enjoyed the scenery and the sound of the wind blowing through the microphone as much as the well-told story. Keep it up.

[@FrontSideBus]

I've flown over this part of the US on an aeroplane at 38,000 feet and you really get a sense of just how remote places like this are when you look out the window and literally see absolutely nothing but the plains and mountains for as far the eye can see, which at that altitude is a lot!

[@wesleygay8918]

Karl, thank you again for preserving history. It's truly a pleasure to revisit these vignettes years later.

[@drmaudio]

Well done. It often strikes me not only that most people lack the basic skills of self-sufficiency these days, but that self-sufficiency is actually discouraged in todays society. Everything for and from society may work for the ants, but I am not an ant.

[@troy9477]

Wow. Those poor guys lingered for 24 hours? (shudder) Just being able to keep the tourniquet tight to avoid bleeding to death is a significant accomplishment. I'm sure he felt awful that he couldn't keep the scavengers away from his friends' bodies, even though he was too weak to do anything. This is an amazing story, well told with demonstrations. Thank you

[@dztxtea]

I went to the Dragoon Spring Station a few years ago. Yea, it's remote. The trail going to it is barely marked. Beautiful scenery.

[@earlharvey7887]

A wonderful site to visit. I lived 3 miles from the station at my ranch house in Dragoon Az. Was able to visit at least once a month. Found some horse harness buckles but left them there. Not legal to remove any objects from a historical site in the Coronado National Forest. But the best way to feel inside you and around you is ,where you sit ( quietly) and watch the sunset, it seems the wind in the Mesquite trees whispers and the stones of the station try and tell you their story.

[@gunnarhassing5875]

“Of his stuff the west was made” A damn fine line to commemorate this man’s life.

[@gabriellockhart]

great video Karl, its great to hear of the small acts of heroism and survival out in the old west, being from england getting access to the old books and texts pertaining to this in library's is impossible. so it is great to actually see people putting this on youtube. hat's off to you sir...

[@victor82nd]

Great vignette, I love hearing about obscure instances of survival that made this country what it is today

[@TheSpoon369]

if they ever brought back wild west tech, you guys would make great host's!

[@InrangeTv]

That was a fun show! ~Karl

[@Devin_Stromgren]

I'm sure they would be a lot more accurate than the original "Wild West Tech". I thoroughly enjoyed the show, but I can't count how many times I was shouting at my tv because WWT got something completely wrong.

[@devinpetersen2387]

Hell yeah!

[@andrewince8824]

Ian should get a second job acting in crime reenactments.

[@eazygamer8974]

ians not even in this video

[@Viz405]

@@eazygamer8974 yes he is...

[@heldaneurbanus5135]

I wish Akira Kurosawa had made a film about this. He was truly amazing at showing these small scale but truly epic tales with great humanity and spirit.

[@TheJttv]

love this series

[@sundownsigns]

Great presentation. I live near this location and have visited here many times, ridden my mules to the location of Dragoon Springs and beyond. Each year the Sons of Confederate Veterans Camp 1710 decorates the graves of the Confederates who were killed here by Apaches. A lot of tragic history happened near this location.

[@mpetersen6]

I always enjoy these. No matter if they are old or new. One tough hombre

[@andressapper5752]

THANK YOU!! At a time as confusing as ours I appreciate the history of MEN who have preserved against anything that I face today. Your story put things in a better perspective. Thank you very much and I wish you the best. Please keep them coming. Semper Fidelis

[@gunnerdupree3406]

ahhh, I love comin back to these history vignettes, just really great work Karl.

[@trainsbangsandautomobiles824]

I love the old west and the stories behind it. More cap and ball revolver action is always a bonus too

[@brianreddeman951]

Awesome. I'm going to find his restored plaque tomorrow in I think Old Town San Diego. Sounds like I need to make a trip to this site as well. Very cool!

[@jaredneaves7007]

I listened to that whole thing with jaw dropped. I didn't think I would want to travel back to America but I really would like to check out places like this.

[@ryanmaycroft7596]

It's great to see the history come alive. It's obvious to see your passion for the truth come out in this series.

[@Will-Xaru]

This series is absolutely amazing. Thank you so much for these stories. The apache one really helped me understand the mindset of the old tribes and how they fought. Keep doing these please :)

[@47MasoN47]

I'll add my voice to the others saying they love this series. These are fantastic! The production quality is excellent as well. Love the little touches showing the fighting and fending off the wolves. Keep up the good work guys!

[@BiscayneTPP]

I can only hope that, should I be called to survive a hazardous situation, I could be half as strong as Mr. St. John.

[@raymondnelson7919]

This was fantastic stuff. I love how you both focus so much on the history of what you're covering (whether it's weapons, gear, etc), and this is no exception. Keep up the great content!

[@bigjohn75]

love this stuff.you guy are better than the history channel..

[@johnriley4858]

Thank you for a story that is not only well told, but informative.

[@timharper3390]

Fascinating story and testament to Mr St John’s wherewithal. Thank you for a fine piece!

[@Courier-Six]

I face palmed so hard when I watched this. For 10 freaking years I have been looking for this story and the names behind it after watching an odd episode of Wild West Tech and never seeing it again. This story fascinated me for years

[@sjhart14]

Absolutely fascinating video. One thing I did not pick up, and did not find in a brief search on the topic, was the motive for the murders? What caused the laborers to commit such awful violence?

[@robertodonnell1146]

I love these “old West” history field trips!

[@cj_m2477]

Great bit of history. Everyone knows about the OK Corral but it’s these little known stories that to me, describe the true people of the old west. Their determination and courage shows just how tough they truly were. These folks had some real sand! Thank you for this great video. Well done too!

[@pr4runner]

Thank you very much for taking your time in your lives to tell this story. Much appreciated. These videos tell some great stories..

[@badweetabix]

Not trying to take away from St. John, but Hugh Glass IMHO epitomizes the toughness not only in body but in spirit of those who tamed the Old West. Mauled so badly by a grizzly that the men he was traveling with left him for dead; he set his own broken leg and crawled 200 miles to the nearest settlement in 6 weeks. After he recovered, he tracked down two of the men who abandoned him and taken his gears, rifle, and knife. No one would had faulted him if he had killed them, but he didn't and actually forgave one of the men who was a young Jim Bridger.

[@collinhennessy1521]

Hugh Jass already had a movie made about him, it's called The Revenant, it's pretty good. I've never heard of this incident before, but I would've loved to have been alive when it happened.

[@andrewince8824]

Glass was more Eastern frontier than wild west. Still an insanely tough bastard.

[@cornpopwasabaddude69]

Glass wasn't a western frontierman though, I think that's an important distinction to make considering the vast difference in the environments they operated within. And yes, I used the term operated intentionally.

[@bigjim9706]

love these story vids with actual footage of the place it happened! very very intresting and awesome!

[@williamprince1114]

I really like the historical vignettes. Touches on what drew me to firearms initially.

[@chriswarren1618]

Brilliant job. I love to see real stories of what actually happened out there, together with the tales of human courage and endeavour. I was privileged to spend some time touring (a lot on foot), your mind blowing beautiful States of Utah and Arizona and that experience I will never, ever, forget.

[@pakman422]

I love the Old West! This series is just plain awesome! Thanks!

[@raygun23]

We need more of these.

[@derekstone7426]

I’m shocked there’s not a monument plaque in front of the stage coach checkpoint, unless there’s one by the paved road that turns off to this location.

[@tooter1able]

Fascinating! Thank you. Please Continue.

[@gnarshread]

These are an awesome look into our history we know very little about. Please do more of these!

[@dennis2376]

It is interesting that he did not try to go for help himself. With horses there you would think that that would be a possibility. D.... this man died hard. Thank you for tell us about this history.

[@orangetlr]

Love these historical videos!

[@GreyDevil]

great video, definitely an interesting and intense story our survival against all odds

[@threeoeightwadcutter2820]

Great Story. Thanks for sharing

[@SOPsurvive]

Awesome story, this content is awesome. Thank you for all the time and effort it takes to make this sort of video and I hope you keep producing them.

[@roadpanzir]

You two are doing one helluva great job on these video's! There has not been one show that did not keep my interest, thank you both!-pete

[@MegaHorseThief]

we need more old west vignettes

[@rickkinki4624]

I just subscribed. You make some excellent videos! You need to do one on the history of the Brunckow Cabin! That place is very interesting!

[@YorchVicAstronaut1R]

What a nice story, very very good. Greetings from Denver, Colorado.

[@TechnicolorDojo]

I absolutely love these type of videos. Easily the best content on this channel.

[@XxSkill4LifexX]

These have become some of my favorites!

[@battleranch]

Fantastic vignette again! I hope you gentlemen can keep these up! Maybe you could look into getting a drone to add in a good birds eye view of the spaces you are describing. They are expensive but would really add a lot of depth to this already awesome content.

[@tuck234]

gotta support them on patreon ;)

[@crazyfvck]

+battleranch Just an FYI, they did a drone view of this site in the other Dragoon Springs video..

[@waylandvanzandt1561]

I just wanted to thank you guys for your content. I wish I could support you guys. But all I can do is share your content and give a thumbs up. Keep up the good work and God bless you and thanks again.

[@MrOldmanjenkin1]

Gunna see a film about this in 5 years time

[@Gakulon]

Probably gonna have to be a short film.

[@TheBulap]

I'm sure Hollywood can pull some nonsense 2-hour story out of their ass with Brad Pitt avenging his family or something to explain it

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

You could probably make a very adequate film about this story below the 40 minute mark, it doesn't need to be that much longer. Hell, you wouldn't even need that much of a budget either.

[@jacobstaten2366]

@@Gakulon i could see an 80-100 minute long movie. Idk why everything has to be 3 hours long lately.

[@errolflynn2626]

Thank you from Thailand. You love what your doing and it shows. I subbed and thanks again..

[@shonny61]

Great story, very well told. Stay the course, you're doing important work. Happy to be a patreon supporter.

[@whitequasar4686]

I love videos like these stories of the untamed west stories of individual who took their chances

[@simon_969]

i love this series even tho i had never heard these stories before

[@Wpilot673]

Incredible story! I love these history lessons

[@stevedevine833]

great historical information . I wish we had someone north of the 49 parallel who would do this kind of video . great work please keep it going!

[@JCDadalus]

I love this, well done with the historical scene, story, and exciting reenactment thank you.

[@johngrey5806]

Wow, this really makes me feel like my day's not going so badly after all!

[@russelder9743]

Excellent-----------love the history. Thanks for sharing

[@dannystringfellow6949]

good story, thanks for your efforts

[@tedebear108]

Good day to you sir. First time watching and I subscribed and liked your Channel. I too am a history buff, mostly in the Civil War history. But I do like the American West history as well. Hope to see more.

[@bradmarthafocker4285]

Excellent. I'm late to the party, but I'm incredibly excited to watch the rest of this series.

[@caribbeantigress]

Revenant style! Tough men like these are hard to come by!

[@hoboite1]

Really loving these episodes! I saw that Jonny Ringo is buried in the chiricahua Mts..... future program??!

[@thelastjohnwayne]

Great job on this video.

[@grendelgrendelsson5493]

Absolutely fascinating, thank you.

[@arupchattopadhyay7035]

Thank you. Very interesting

[@vinercent215]

Amazing, that somebody can fight off 3 man severly wounded. He really was a though guy

[@terrygraham1877]

Great history! Thanks for the good video.

[@Ergilion]

Awesome stuff. Want more of it. Keep up the great work!

[@DRay-or4tc]

We always said; "it gets rough moving West". Rough indeed.

[@collinmclaren6608]

There NEEDS to be a movie on this. I can totally picture it, something like The Revenant meets 127 Hours.

[@Krowka666]

Hi Carl, I found a newspaper article about this, and in the article it said that St. John managed to write down what happened to him in a notebook as he laid in that room after. Do you know if there’s a transcript of that notebook?? That would be a really interesting read.

[@DrenergyNetzeal]

Another great presentation! 😊

[@KenDignam]

Amazing story of the will to live 🙏

[@jonhouse9372]

Interesting stories and great presentation!

[@levifontaine8186]

I'm convinced that people before the 1950s were a different species of human

[@Mike-im5bo]

I once read that the Indian fighting army of the post Civil War era could not measure up to the quality of the pre Civil War era. I wish I could remember the source.

[@jeffsmith2022]

That's quite a story, well done...

[@jacobstaten2366]

How does this guy not have his own movies?

[@jimmyggh1]

The Vignettes are amazing!

[@krzysztofdrobinski162]

Great video. Would you guys include in your description latitude and longitude of the site, please? It would be much easier to find it on google maps.

[@geoanalytics1983]

I love your history vids mud and dust test too I want to come to Arizona very bad

[@KVIIcolt45]

Really like these. Keep up the good work.

[@erikbogerman2048]

incredible story.....love it.

[@bourbonstudios1255]

I love this series!

[@bunathan2485]

This should be a movie

[@danielshoden4681]

Very good presentation!

[@CurtisEFlush5962]

Great camera work and editing

[@tacticaltrex6490]

what a story. amazing

[@versoarmamentcompany]

Love these videos