Ben Sheppard -AO fitness ministry I bought my 88 Fiero GT new. I still have it to this day. I will never get bored with it.
@Ben-qb4lj4 жыл бұрын
@@marks4374 wow my son was 5 when he asked how long Obama would be president (?)- he was upset he killed it! I'll still replace my 95 t/a convertible! Best car I've ever had (lt1)
@oliverdelgado69524 жыл бұрын
Yes I Miss my Le Mans :(
@jmjfanss4 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-qb4lj nobama and gm will pay for what they did to pontiac.
@chrismsimracing4 жыл бұрын
This guy needs to calm down
@geraldstephens87914 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Xanax should not be taken prior to recording!
@moe928704 жыл бұрын
He reminds me of that radio DJ from Reservoir Dogs
@iluvcamaros19124 жыл бұрын
I watch these videos on 1.25 speed otherwise I can't bear them
@hardscrabble-s2e4 жыл бұрын
Stop yelling. Shhh.
@gizmono28694 жыл бұрын
🤣
@effinchad4 жыл бұрын
In the 80s, seeing these cars around town next to the big boats of the 70s was actually quite striking. It was a new economical era for legitimate reasons. Today, seeing a 2020 car next to 2000s cars is virtually unnoticeable. The industry has reached its peak on overall design. Now it's all about the interior toys.
@NikoBellaKhouf23 жыл бұрын
"legitimate reasons" being the commie takeover of the US
@NikoBellaKhouf23 жыл бұрын
@bri there was no real crisis
@rockettcustoms62662 жыл бұрын
@@NikoBellaKhouf2 No, the fascist takeover actually!
@rockettcustoms62662 жыл бұрын
@@NikoBellaKhouf2 Yeah, there was actually. You obviously weren't around in the '70's so don't flap your gums about stuff you don't know about.
@NikoBellaKhouf22 жыл бұрын
@@rockettcustoms6266 Fifty years from now, there will be some old fart flapping his gums about how covid was worse than the black plague, that bodies were dropping left and right in the streets, and they had to truck bodies to be buried in mass graves. He'll tell everyone he was there and knows everything. The rest of us who didn't rely on the idiot box 📺 to tell us what to think, will know better.
@MaliciousSRT4 жыл бұрын
None of those were even real attempts, they were just trying to cash in on name recognition.
@xyrzmxyzptlk11864 жыл бұрын
Exactly. 👍🏼
@carportshenanigans59184 жыл бұрын
Except Pontiac produced the 2+2 for NASCAR homologation purposes, that was the sole purpose for it’s existence. Same reason for the Monte SS Aerocoupe.
@philtripe4 жыл бұрын
American car companies were broker than broke in the late 1970's and early eighty's so you really have to take that into consideration...we were lucky they could afford stickers back then
@mysteryman4474 жыл бұрын
Carport Shenanigans I’m so love hate with the aerocoupe, hate the trunk and overall look but love the performance boost to the notchback monte
@jasoncarpp77424 жыл бұрын
I agree. If the Challenger, for example, had a 2.6 litre 4 cyl. or a 3.0 litre 4 cyl. engine, rather than the 1.6 litre engine offered for the US market, I imagine people would've enjoyed it more.
@christhomas17084 жыл бұрын
Dodge had the most badass muscle cars, and also the most insultingly pathetic rebranding of an econobox
@mikebudzinski38794 жыл бұрын
i still prefer Pontiacs
@bengomes88454 жыл бұрын
They are both my favorites
@benjaminbellamy72074 жыл бұрын
Some Plymouth dealers slapped Road Runner decals on Sundance Coupes🤣
@bansheemania16924 жыл бұрын
@midnitesquirldog1 Grandfather had a 1970 Bonneville. 455 EVERY Option. That 2 Door Boat would Walk Anything Corvette on the Highway back in the 80s. Just keep pulling from 50 all the way to Burried speedo at 120 in 4 sec( but Dyno)
@emmettmarbury65714 жыл бұрын
Dodge
@flyonbyya4 жыл бұрын
The first ‘Old Car Memories’ video that made me depressed
@savagetuner24044 жыл бұрын
Steve Silvas Dude this is their golden age.
@christopherconard28314 жыл бұрын
@@savagetuner2404 We are definitely in the second golden age of horsepower. I hope everyone appreciates it. The first one ended with little warning. We're always one crisis, or well meant but poorly implemented wave of legislation away from going back to econoboxes.
@alphatrion1004 жыл бұрын
His voice is different
@MrGoogelaar4 жыл бұрын
@@alphatrion100 Different? You perhaps mean stupid?
@BuzzLOLOL4 жыл бұрын
Cars got depressing in 1971... no HP... no MPG... junk Japanese steel made from WWII/Vietnam weapons... some revival started in 1976 for some models...
@vinniecorleone624 жыл бұрын
A very enjoyable segment, brought back vivid memories! I proudly owned two 1970 Challenger's, one a 440 auto R/T & today I drive my 2014 Blacktop Edition R/T with Super Track Pack with 392 rear gears. I had that 1985 Shelby Charger Turbo, it was my very first brand new car in the 80's as I also owned two 1969 Charger's, one a 440 auto RT/SE, I however can't abide the new 4-door Charger though, I can't.
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
I worked at a garage in 90 and we had one of those same turbo cars that the owner picked up cheap at an auction that we used for a parts runner, we gutted the cat and put a Supertrapp muffler on it and played around with the adjustments on the engine, we'd drag race 60's muscle cars and newer IROC's and stuff with it in town and people just couldn't believe how fast that thing was.
@MrFmccarty4 жыл бұрын
vinniecorleone62 I don’t get it either maybe there is a problem with two door cars that I am unaware of. The real charger was a great car. The new one is nice and they run but close your eyes and imagine it a two door. Your children can’t. My 7 year old grandson is my mini me he has been a car guy since five for sure. I used to love hearing him name vehicles going down the road. Oh were you meaning to say CATALINA INSTEAD OF CANTALINA. My father had the latter.
@texaswunderkind3 жыл бұрын
My brother had a Charger Turbo in '87 or so, and it had a shocking amount of pickup for a four-banger.
@vinniecorleone623 жыл бұрын
@@texaswunderkind Yep, I could beat 5.0 Mustang GT's then light after light.
@brian31742 жыл бұрын
i agree the DODGE CHARGER in its new style has went same way as FORDS RS FOCUS 4DOORS and i say why ruin a cars pedigree and looks by turning into a family 4door saloon or hatchback charger if had been a 2 door with packages same as challenger i think lots more wouldnt mind a charger but nothing will ever beat 68 to 70 chargers as was an evil looker and fast and being in scotland ive only saw under 20 in my life id pleasure of driving a hemi charger and an rt440 with pistol grip manual box and id a laugh playing with that at traffic lights the hemi i drove was fast but some lazy driver had an auto installed when i prefer a clutch and manual box as more control of car into bends and such the auto i felt unsafe on tight corners as if car was about to slide off road if itd been manual itd been a controllable rocket lol
@mrpeterjb694 жыл бұрын
I watch these videos when I need to sleep. His voice is the best cure for insomnia that I know of.
@robbchastain30364 жыл бұрын
This is the saddest muscle car vid ever.
@jerrycraig65224 жыл бұрын
So so sad!!!
@brianzybura86334 жыл бұрын
You must admit that cars of the late seventies and early eighties were very boring low horsepower cars. About the only car in that era that was real good was the Lincoln Continental and the Corvette. The narrator of this video was very clear. The high performance cars of the Sixties really never came back. Some real good ones nowadays but nothing like the Sixties.
@robbchastain30364 жыл бұрын
@@brianzybura8633 O you know i agree, no argument from me. And it was sadness on top of sadness that the car companies lost their mojo and then badged the lamest cars of all time with the greatest names of all time.
@brianzybura86334 жыл бұрын
@@robbchastain3036 Robb, sorry if I misinterpreted you. No doubt, a sad video. BUT the good news is that a lot of guys are rebuilding all the old muscle cars and bringing them back to life. Likely you know about that. If you havent already, GOOGLE NICKS GARAGE. This gentleman and his helpers redo muscle cars top to bottom--the works. This YT channel is lots of fun, and I think you will enjoy it.
@mattwallis59224 жыл бұрын
Nope, Watch the R54 Restorations Muscle car crash comp video. Makes me soooo sad 😥
@ddoyle114 жыл бұрын
To my eye, that Challenger is just a Plymouth Horizon with some decals on it.
@MichiganPeatMoss4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, lol - probably complete with mushy brakes.
@oliverdelgado69524 жыл бұрын
Would love to see one in person only because they are so rare now lol
@williamarnett90644 жыл бұрын
The Challenger is a rebadged Mitsubishi Sapporo
@alphatrion1004 жыл бұрын
@Squirmin Herman the one eyed German the sapporo was a cool car in its own right.
@unclefreddieDied4 жыл бұрын
I remember the charger, but never seen the Challenger
@donkeyboy5854 жыл бұрын
It took 30 years of drinking to forget these cars...thanks!!!
@robertwittjr11984 жыл бұрын
i didn't know steven wright had a youtube car channel.
@xyrzmxyzptlk11864 жыл бұрын
Either him or Ben Stein. (From Ferris Bueller’s Day Off).
@BELCAN574 жыл бұрын
I find his narration very calming.
@robertbeirne98134 жыл бұрын
Robert Witt Jr, I thought it was Carlton the doorman, from “Rhoda”.
@sidefx9964 жыл бұрын
Robert Witt Jr 🤣🤣
@deanbudgell62204 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha. It’s a small world....but I wouldn’t want to paint it.
@Spintechfilms4 жыл бұрын
This guys energy is off the charts
@Johnny96ri Жыл бұрын
He's as exciting as Ben Stein on tranquilizers.
@joequillun77904 жыл бұрын
I agree. You got it right. 98% of the late 70s, and 80s, were the worst. Very embarrassing.
@BELCAN574 жыл бұрын
I liken them to the "Awkward Teenage Years" of the US auto industry. Most executives still thought that bigger was better, and only begrudgingly started down the path to smaller more fuel efficient cars. They no longer had the big rear wheel drive V-8 cars and tried their best to envision a " muscle car" in a diminutive body.
@joequillun77904 жыл бұрын
@@BELCAN57 I miss the "big" rear wheel drive cars Steve. We all know the government mandated Detroit to make more fuel efficient cars available, which meant smaller less powerful engines. And in order to accelerate to highway speeds safely, the cars needed to be put on a strict diet, because of of the pathetically low HP. Now-a-days, a second gen F-body is considered "big", when back in the day, they were almost compacts. But I wish in those years, something like the 86 2+2 had a 400 4 spd still as an option. :(
@disappointednep-nep24304 жыл бұрын
Eh, I don’t mind the late 80s rebranded Mitsubishis by Chrysler like the conquest and the Daytona, as whatever you can do to those cars, you can do the same to the JDM counterparts, and there is a huge aftermarket for both the Galant (Daytona) and the Starion (Conquest)
@joequillun77904 жыл бұрын
@@disappointednep-nep2430 I guess it's just a generational thing. I'll never be convinced. But hey, that's just me.
@jdguy234 жыл бұрын
Yep but gm did do a little better tho than the other guys tho if you think about it
@pancudowny4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about the FWD Charger: Like with the Chrysler mini-vans, it was such a success in sales that both GM and Ford began developing FWD "sport coupes" as the next generation of the Camaro/Firebird/Trans-Am and Mustang, respectively. When engine packaging issues troubled the GM-30 (Internal body/platform code) and word got out of Ford's intent on making the next Mustang basically a FWD Mazda re-bodied to resemble their successfully received Probe-V aero-research concept, work on each was abandoned and both scrambled to design "proper" RWD platforms that could be offered with V-8 power.
@mrjohnnyk4 жыл бұрын
Some executives got too ambitious and when word caught on nobody wanted to be doing what they wanted.
@charlesm.75734 жыл бұрын
Yes, and they were fairly advanced in the product development before they canned it if I remember right. The rwd mustang was to go away, being replaced by the Probe. But as it turned out, the Probe was the one that went away.
@brian31742 жыл бұрын
@@charlesm.7573 here in the UK we were told the new ford probe would be the new ford capri (too anyone in usa the ford capri was the european mini mustang we got 2 engine options a 2.0 4 cylinder or 2.5v6 the v6 had a mazda engine i owned both models 1st 2.0 (wasnt impressed) i then bought the v6 slightly better but to be honest still not replacement for capri and front wheel drive then ford tried to announce yet another replacement capri that wasnt the cougar that didnt sell well or last long like probe in uk think we got probe around 92 93 gone by 96 97 now fords fcking the european rallye sport models now that usa is in control a 4dr focus rs and it took till 3rd model RS FOCUS TO GET NEAR THE CAR IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FROM START THE FOCUS RS MK1 REPLACED THE FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH A 4WHEEL DRIVE TURBOCHARGED RALLY RACE CAR IN ROAD TRIM WITH MOTORSPORTS PEDIGREE THE LATEST 4DOOR FOCUS RS IS A JOKE AND UGLY THE 1ST FOCUS RS SHOULD HAVE CONTINUED FROM WHERE ESCORT LEFT OFF IN 96 INSTEAD RS HAS BECAME A BADGE WISH FORD WOULD BUILD FIESTA RS AS ID BUY THAT AS 2DOOR BUT I OWN AN ORIGINAL 92 LAST OF LARGE TURBO ESCORT RS COSWORTH AND FORDS YET TO BUILD A CAR TOO SUCCEED IT IN MY EYES . it pisses me off over 40years uk europe development and tech thrown away to make a world car with an RS badge ford usa should stick to mustangs etc europe the rs st ranges as ford svr are a joke its designers wear welding goggles lol
@Johnny96ri Жыл бұрын
Funny thing about the FWD Charger...equipped properly, it RIPPED.
@chuckkfinnley4 жыл бұрын
Olds quad 4 engine was a kickass little 4 cylinder. Just needed a better body built around it
@voweeks4 жыл бұрын
those beretta gtz were pretty sweet
@dudehere3404 жыл бұрын
I doubt the 80s Monte Carlos and 442s generated "substantially more horsepower" than the 2+2. They were all pretty weak. GN and GNX, different story. Corvette killers!
@oliverdelgado69524 жыл бұрын
Big Momma GM didn't like the GNX being that fast
@greenidguy92924 жыл бұрын
Fire Dude It wasn’t that the GNX was that fast it was a fact that the Corvettes in that era were severely underpowered due to the smog motor craze.
@sledgehammer85424 жыл бұрын
Actually, the monte was "rated" at 190, but made more. The Olds 442 was 180 with 3.73 gears and the GN was 235, also under rated. The GNX was rated around 300, also under rated. They all made significantly more.
@231mac4 жыл бұрын
@@sledgehammer8542 Sorry, but the Monte WAS rated at 180 and I doubt it even made that, lol. Those 305's were horrible and the 'SS' was a pig on its best day by running a mid-16 second quarter.
@sledgehammer85424 жыл бұрын
@@231mac you are correct. They were rated at 180, but it was the exact same engines as the z28 and trans am from 83 up. It was the L69 H.O.. In those cars it was claimed at 190. They actually made around 225 at the flywheel. They were very strong and reliable engines for the 80's. They were not 16 cars, they were mid to high 15's. Excellent for the time period. I owned several of all three. The 305 in the 2+2 was the Lg4. It was 150 hp, and no where close to the L69. Don't believe everything you read. The L69 in my 84 T/A, was faster than a TPI 305 85 T/A, because the carburated cars made more torque. The TPI 305 was rated as higher HP than the L69. It wasn't.
@xerodelacroix55524 жыл бұрын
The Shelby GLHS Charger was an animal. The most underrated of the 80's turbo cars.
@immikeurnot4 жыл бұрын
I had one of the "only" 180 hp Quad 4 Calais for my first car. It would slaughter IROCs and Mustang GTs at the weekend stoplight action. Seriously underrated little car.
@joehart64064 жыл бұрын
Yep i worked with a guy i used to joke glh stood for GOES LIKE HECK
@niss634 жыл бұрын
I owned one. Was it a Charger in the traditional sense of a muscle car? No… However, it was a quick car that handled well and was really fun to drive on winding back roads. From ‘78 to ‘83 automakers ignored the performance market and there weren’t any real performance cars being produced. As a way of reviving interest in Chrysler performance products, this car was a good start.
@LuckyBaldwin7773 жыл бұрын
I had a regular Shelby Charger. It was an OK car. I never jumped on the front wheel drive bandwagon because they're kind of squirrely when you put your foot in it.
@Johnny96ri Жыл бұрын
@@joehart6406 it actually did.
@stephenhensley70044 жыл бұрын
Ford forgot again. The Mustang Mach E may turn out to be a good electric SUV, but it is not a Mustang.
@user-gr6qx3up6w4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Hensley why would they even call it a mustang smh
@X1.74 жыл бұрын
Stephen Hensley F-150’s account for 90% of Fords profits. Everything thing else is basically on backburner
@CaptHollister4 жыл бұрын
The Mach-E is not a revival. It will do in the 2020s what the original Mustang did in the 1960s. The Mach-E will be a great success despite the tears of self-appointed Mustang purists.
@MarloSoBalJr3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptHollister I think you missed his point... the Mach-E is a "SUV" not a coupe like what a Mustang is meant to be.
@CaptHollister3 жыл бұрын
@@MarloSoBalJr Perhaps it is you who missed the point. The Mustang is only meant to be what Ford wants it to be: it is an innovative, youthful fun vehicle. In the 1960s that meant a long hood, cramped interior and muscular look (even if you had the wimpy base inline six and three-speed) which spawned the whole pony car genre. 50 years on, the world has moved in a different direction. Going forward, an innovative, youthful, fun vehicle will be electric and usefully practical while remaining fast and fun to drive. Think of the Mustang as a concept rather than a specific vehicle.
@chrisliberty17734 жыл бұрын
The "Mitsu" Challenger...a.k.a. a Starion n.a. rwd car was pretty cool... but NOT a Challenger.
@12yearssober4 жыл бұрын
Chris Liberty I had a 79. It was an interesting car and honestly wish I still had it. Was great on gas and super reliable. It definitely was not a performance car however. The best part was the AC. It blew out at 38 degrees lol.
@michaelb67294 жыл бұрын
You mean Mitsubishi Sigma "Scorpion" ?? The Starion became the Chrysler Conquest.
@chrisliberty17734 жыл бұрын
@@michaelb6729 the Dodge Challenger of that era was the same chassis platform as the Starion/Conquest..except Challenger had a live axle rear and Starion had irs
@tskraj31904 жыл бұрын
Unless you put a 340 w/6 Pack and a Torque Flite 727 in it. Muahahaha!!!
@davidhollenshead48924 жыл бұрын
@@12yearssober "super reliable" ??? When compared to what ??? A Honda Civic 1200, Buick Opel by Isuzu & Subaru 360 !!!!
@heyrod594 жыл бұрын
What also killed these cars was the EPA requirements for horsepower robbing emission controls and the added weight of those components. The second being the bean counters at Ford and GM nixing optional power enhancing devices like turbos/superchargers/intakes/free flowing exhaust systems. Alot of these cars are rarely seen on the road anymore, probably in private collections or in junkyards.....
@pappagetti4 жыл бұрын
This channel relaxes me. Some people listen to rain, others read by a fire place, I come here and take a time machine back to when the world made sense.
@matthewronsson4 жыл бұрын
I'd always hated when U.S. car makers would sacrifice a prestigious nameplate, only to slap it on something like an Omni whose greatest aspect of the package was merely some 'sports' detailing/trim slapped on. I don't recall many of these very well, because I ignored them in disgust.
@jeffreyrubish3474 жыл бұрын
The only interesting Omni was the GLH. I drove one once and it was impressive for its day.
@pokeytrucker52964 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyrubish347 yeah, the Omni GLH was way more than just a sticker or appearance package, it was actually pretty darn fast, faster than most of the V8 cars of the era.
@jameshall43854 жыл бұрын
don’t forget the chevy nova, Pontiac lemans, and dodge dart.
@Wildstar404 жыл бұрын
All great cars ... that turned into abortions.
@pokeytrucker52964 жыл бұрын
Those weren't necessarily performance cars though. They were ordinary family cars that had performance variants. The cars in this video used names of performance variants. If he just went with old names of run of the mill family cars, this video would be too long. He'd have to include the Malibu, Impala, Cutlass, Regal, Dart, LeMans, Nova, Cougar, etc., the list could go on forever.
@twin_23394 жыл бұрын
The modern dart is good tho
@sludge41254 жыл бұрын
Pokey, depends what was underneath the hood of the nova.
@coronacancer19774 жыл бұрын
And Subaru Impreza Casablanca
@kikurass3224 жыл бұрын
8:23 "Cantilina", I think he meant to say Catalina.
@BELCAN574 жыл бұрын
All I know is I'm eating catalope tomorrow for breakfast.
@TheCarCrazyGuy4 жыл бұрын
It was the Cantilever 2 + 2
@robertbeirne98134 жыл бұрын
kik Urass I think the Cantilina was made in Mexico, to compete with the Chrysler Couldalina.
@jamesthompson80084 жыл бұрын
The Car Crazy Guy I have one of the 86 version, love it, but... Cantilever any faster than anything else. Imo, the only downside to the car.
@davidgalinat42574 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was thinking about going to the cantina to get some funky cold medina?
@marcmaz213 жыл бұрын
This narrator was the kid that the teacher picked to read a page and you’d wake up with drool on your desk and cheek.
@RiverwalkFunHouse4 жыл бұрын
God I miss the 80's. And Pontiac!
@MisterMikeTexas4 жыл бұрын
442 used to mean "4 barrel carburetor, 4 on the floor, dual exhausts"
@aa649124 жыл бұрын
I have trouble with a dodge with four doors being called a charger. Or a four door impala being called “SS”. I had a 65 impala SS 67 SS and a 66 chevelle SS, and an uncle had a 69 charger. Guess I’m a traditionalist. Cars lack excitement and all look alike these days, also putting a caddy emblem on a truck does not make it a caddy, just an over priced GMC
@garymckee88574 жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct.
@V8AmericanMuscleCar4 жыл бұрын
I agree! Charger SHOULD be only with 2 door.
@MikeBrown-ii3pt4 жыл бұрын
In my mind, there's no such thing as a "performance sedan". 2 doors too many for me!
@Shuten_Wukong4 жыл бұрын
I stay confused about the decisions of the past AND the present.
@davidhollenshead48924 жыл бұрын
So do I, as the 442 was a four barrel, four speed stick with two wheel drive via locking diff.... A four cylinder, automatic, front [one] wheel drive == barf barf.
@leelawrence15574 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. Especially Dodge and that four door Charger I despise. That car is nothing more than a high performance four door grocery getter.
@abesoloman69324 жыл бұрын
@@davidhollenshead4892 442 stood for four-barrel carburetor 4 speed manual transmission and dual exhaust
@anthonynelson91364 жыл бұрын
@@davidhollenshead4892 Originally 442 meant 4 Barrel, 4 sp, and dual exhaust.
@purplepaladin76624 жыл бұрын
The quad 4 engine in the 442 is a beast of a 4 cylinder , drove a 97 cavalier with one in it , it was an option on the z24
@erinfreize2 жыл бұрын
The Calais 442 with the W41 handling package was a quick little car. I remember reading about it when it was new.
@ThekiBoran4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Chevette and Monza revivals. ;-)
@RandyTheWildHorse4 жыл бұрын
lol
@BELCAN574 жыл бұрын
To quote Darth Vader "NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!"
@jeffreyrubish3474 жыл бұрын
AAAARRRGGGHH! 😖
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
Bobcat.
@davidbeattie70934 жыл бұрын
Well at least anything that they could bring out as A new and improved chevette couldn't be any worse than the original.
@BlackBart4794 жыл бұрын
The 1984 1/2 GT 350 also came with the Turbo 4cyl that the same yr SVO got. I never heard of 2 diff 5.0 offered?? Just the 4v bbl not any EFI until 1985 in the auto trans option 5spd still had a 4v carb. And the wheel options the other guy stated yes they wer euro both wer TRX the ragtop picture had the 14" and the fastback had the 390mm. "TRX handling package" option. Very expensive to replace tires & had one choice michelin.
@robertjonas62164 жыл бұрын
Kevin from “The Office” narrates ...
@daviderickson94454 жыл бұрын
Nailed it!
@markfrank59374 жыл бұрын
Robert Jonas, I just thought about Kevin and his Chili. 😆
@Icutmetal4 жыл бұрын
Mark Frank The chili episode is the best!!!
@robertd98503 жыл бұрын
The silver and dark gray Challenger was my very first new car in 1978. I loved that thing. You have to remember that most people did not WANT gas guzzling performance cars so pretty much all cars had what the car salesmen liked to call a "casual" acceleration. The Challenger was designed as direct competition for the Toyota Celica.
@letsroll51444 жыл бұрын
I still simply love the Grand Prix 2+2!! I would not mind what so ever, taking it on a Sunday Drive any day of the week!
@billweller644 жыл бұрын
I worked for the company that produced the water pump for the Quad 4.The Quad 4 engine was still used after 1991.
@nadronnocojr4 жыл бұрын
The new charger is a Chrysler 300c Period There will never be a 4 door charger in my mind,
@7cougar04 жыл бұрын
Yes. I like the car, but not the 4 doors.
@nakoete85214 жыл бұрын
It's not great but the performance sedan market is pretty big in America. You could make the argument that Chrysler should have just made a performance 300c, but the 300c has always been known as a cheaper luxury car. It's easier to market a brand new car with an old familiar name than it is to try and shift an existing car's demographics.
@Silkmaster42004 жыл бұрын
All about family these days. Is why 4 door cars or people don’t know a lot about cars like they used too. All about looks and features. Not enough people care. Also the price much much higher too.
@pokeytrucker52964 жыл бұрын
@@USNVA-yn6cp no, it absolutely did not. The Avenger has nothing in common with the new Charger. The Avenger was fwd, and the Charger is rwd. The 2006 to 2010 Charger was built on the LX platform, which was a rwd platform built using older Mercedes Benz suspension components. The current Charger uses the LD platform, which is an updated version of the LX. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that it came from the Avenger, but you are wrong.
@nadronnocojr4 жыл бұрын
Dan Favata I work for dodge b your 100% wrong sir ty fir replying
@ROMANEMPIRE694 жыл бұрын
Lol! I like that you continuously mention rwd and fwd. when I got my first car(or should I say snagged from grandma) I subconsciously intended to get rwd. However at the time I didn’t know all the mechanical details of cars just the exterior looks and features. I was kinda disappointed when I first opened the hood and saw that the engine was side ways. As a kid I always felt the the power flow was better with the engine facing forward like most muscle hot wheels. 🤪now I would rather have a rwd car even if it is not high performance. 👍🏽
@terryporche87454 жыл бұрын
1964-1970 era was best muscle cars on highway. Wish I still had my 67 Impala SS and 70 Grand Prix. More hp than c.i.
@MikeBrown-ex9nh4 жыл бұрын
I wish I still had my 69 Road Runner that got stolen and stripped, and a 67 Chevelle SS 396 that was the dream car I never got to have.
@LITTLE19944 жыл бұрын
'71-'73 was good, too. It's after the oil crisis then that messed it up afterwards.
@schwarry14 жыл бұрын
Still have my 68 Camaro
@drinkthekoolaidkids3 жыл бұрын
I bet you do wish you still had that 67 ss , like my dad wishes he still had his 69 mach 1 mustang .
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP4 жыл бұрын
That first Mustang pic with the red background - i had as a poster well over a decade ago!! Im in uk... man that gave some memories...
@MichaelandCathy19994 жыл бұрын
Just get me one of those Pontiac Grand Am’s from that time period, especially with the 7.3 liter hot rods!! But that Quad 4-4-2 isn’t bad either, for the time.
@jayjdietrich4 жыл бұрын
1974 Grand Am, 7.3, super duty would be awesome. Had one, just not the super duty. Highway cruiser deluxe.
@thegreatowl49124 жыл бұрын
The Quad 4 was an amazing little 4 cylinder. I had a 4 door, '95 Grand Am with the quad 4 - high output. With 175 factory horsepower mated to a 5 speed manual trans, it was a tuner boys worst nightmare in sleeper trim!
@Icutmetal4 жыл бұрын
Ok 👌
@joebanks13174 жыл бұрын
This is a great vid, too bad the narrator is sooo tired!
@jeffjackson96794 жыл бұрын
I think Ford using the Mach 1 badge on the Mustang II in the mid 70s was a bigger aberation than the GT 350. That thing came with a crappy 6 cylinder that was just over 100 hp as the standard engine (the optional 302 V8 wasn't much better).
@231gnx4 жыл бұрын
So true they were really,really slow-18sec 1/4's.I mean really with the 302.Also AMC had an AMX version in '77-80 with the Hornet/Spirit bodies.They were slow with the 258 sixes.Some with the 304's with 130hp.
@buddycarofano16354 жыл бұрын
When buick put gs emblems on 4 cylinder skylark made me sick nothing like 1970 gsx
@Wildstar404 жыл бұрын
It's like a VW Beetle with a Rolls Royce grill. You look at it and think: 'They got to be kidding.'
@mrjohnnyk4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a lame car in the end.
@madmike262411 ай бұрын
Absolutely nailed #1 my brother!!! # 2, great call, both were so inept. By 1982 standards, that Mustang was really quick. My 350 Buick Apollo got totally embarrassed. Oh, the malaise era of the mid 80's. That aero coupe was an eye catcher, but the darn government regulations just killed power! And your # 5 is in complete agreement!! Those were some woe-some days and eras!
@mattmoody93154 жыл бұрын
While some may not call the Nova a performance car the revival of the name in '85 was a laugh
@jorgebobe93294 жыл бұрын
It was a toyota Corolla just made for GM,,never saw that style in Toyota lineup
@gearsofwar3xXx4 жыл бұрын
@@jorgebobe9329 The sharing of the Matrix which became the Pontiac Vibe was a much better era.
@markmayfield22283 жыл бұрын
My first car.
@markmayfield22283 жыл бұрын
@@jorgebobe9329 I call it the Toyota Nova.
@georgewaters85924 жыл бұрын
wow - I never heard of that re-badged import Challenger.... but i do remember those front wheel drive Chargers, but that Pontiac 2+2 I completely missed as well.... don't remember it at all. I seem to recall a 4 cylinder Duster that was really sad as well, especially since I own a 71 with a small block from my 70 that I keep thinking about putting together... Good Video !!
@Johnny96ri Жыл бұрын
The 2+2 was purely a NASCAR ringer.
@lazyrrr24114 жыл бұрын
It never ceased to amaze me how these "car guys" at the corporations just Didn't Get It ! They viewed the name as a "property" they had the right to slap on any itinerate product they shoved out the door
@joeblowski46434 жыл бұрын
the trademark is in fact their property and they can use it as they wish.
@lazyrrr24114 жыл бұрын
@@joeblowski4643 You're Right ! What was ℹ thinking ? It's their Property ; they can do whatever the h*ll they Want with it . It's their Toy , they can d*mm well Break it if They Want To . They can wear their underwear on their head, if they want to ! Thanks : you've shown me the light 🌈
@kevinsellsit55843 жыл бұрын
In my youth I helped a neighbor, who owned and raced a REAL 1966 Mustang GT350 factory Trans Am car, build something very unique. He purchased a Shelby GLHS new and with 96 miles on the clock we stripped it down, had the body chemically stripped to bare metal, and brazed every spot-welded joint together. I didn't understand why until he took me for a ride in his new SCCA race car which handled like nothing I'd ever experienced. You don't realize how much body flex cars have until you remove all of it! It took some time to get the suspension tuned properly. It cornered on three wheels and would easily pull 1g on 1980's street tires. Amazing for a front wheel drive K-car with what is essentially a steel pipe between the two rear wheels.
@joshriver754 жыл бұрын
Did he really say "Can't-alina"
@djo1654 жыл бұрын
That's the way I heard it too. There isn't any "n" in CATALINA!
@JGarcia774 жыл бұрын
Yes he did !😂
@spencerfurman60304 жыл бұрын
Once he said Cantalina he lost all credibility
@jeffsfleet4 жыл бұрын
Pontiac did want to install the H.O. 5.0L engine into the 2+2. But at the time, there was a shortage of them as they were being installed in the Monte SS, Camaro Z28, and Trans Am, which at the time were all hot sellers. Unfortunately this led to the 2+2 getting the detuned 5.0L.
@stlrepper7114 жыл бұрын
I still drool over that grand prix 2+2🤤🤤
@nickcaruth89393 жыл бұрын
ME DO TO......LOVE IT
@muscleman5164 жыл бұрын
The 2+2 gbody pontiac grand prix can be easily modded today to increase the hp, great videos man 😊 .
@killabee-23844 жыл бұрын
Yeah great video, good info and all that bud I’d try putting some more energy into your voice, just some constructive criticism, keep up the good work.
@jamesplotkin46743 жыл бұрын
Simply adjust the speed to 1.25 and it sounds great.
@robertdragoff69093 жыл бұрын
The 442 wasn’t the only car Oldsmobile shamed. They tried to sell an updated Tornado called the Tornado Troféo then just Troféo. In 1992 the last Tornado rolled off the assembly line. Have to say that the first generation was the best…. So sad that Oldsmobile is no more.
@OllamhDrab4 жыл бұрын
You know, though, those Mitsubishi Challengers really were pretty cool. I forgave the naming about them, the only problem was that where I lived they just rusted away way too fast. When I first saw a 'Charger 2.2' I did think the decals and naming were ridiculous but I eventually ended up with the Plymouth version, the Turismo/Duster 2.2 . Despite the front wheel drive, that was a really fun and useful little car, and I kinda did think for once they actually had kinda the spirit of the old Dusters I love so much to this day. Mine had the decals on it, kinda sun-faded, so the little guy looked adorably like a Matchbox car that'd been in some child's pocket a little too long. I did kind of want to add the Shelby stuff, but rust was still kind of an issue.
@beauxr.benoit13743 жыл бұрын
The only problem with these Challengers is that they were underpowered. And that isn't anything an engine swap can't fix. A turboed Slant six could fit in there.
@OllamhDrab3 жыл бұрын
@@beauxr.benoit1374 That'd be missing the point. (Also it'd seriously be terrible.)
@beauxr.benoit13743 жыл бұрын
@@OllamhDrab How am I missing the point? They were rear-Wheel-Drive right, so you just need to upgrade the car so you can put a bigger engine in it. And then they were imports, this is just an older version of what is done today. Do you know where the Dodge cars themselves come from? They are on German platforms with Italian parts if not including some from China as well. Chevys come from Canada and Fords from Mexico and both except for final assembly. There is no such thing as true Domestic anymore with 100% parts because nothing is truely built here with American except for Toyotas and their parts which the dies were originally not from here either.
@OllamhDrab3 жыл бұрын
@@beauxr.benoit1374 I meant that they're cars you'd want to keep pretty light. Not really ideal for a heavy engine, yaknow?
@beauxr.benoit13743 жыл бұрын
@@OllamhDrab A six would be too heavy for it? Do you know about Australian cars from the 70's that are the same size of a Toyota Corolla that had sixes in them?
@thefettfan39944 жыл бұрын
Why O' Why do automobile manufacturers get revamps so, so wrong and not just in the U.S.A and Canada but in mainland Europe as well as the far East. The lesson to be learned is "Think, think talk in depth and consult" then get it all correct and a legend returns to the road. "Maybe I tend to live in a Utopia?" Good vid as always!!
@_KarlS4 жыл бұрын
Imagine an 86 Pontiac 2 + 2 with an LS swap? Somebody out there did it or is doing it
@christopherconard28314 жыл бұрын
Over a long enough timeline, everything gets an LS swap. It probably wouldn't take long to find an old VW Beetle with one.
@robertbeirne98134 жыл бұрын
Christopher Conard google it. There’s a beetle out there w/ an LS swap
@anthonynelson91364 жыл бұрын
I put an LS 3 with a Tremec 6 sp in my 87 SS Monte Carlo Aero Coupe. We had a new neighbor move in and the sawed-off little runt was always telling me how much faster his 87 Buick Grand National was than my Monte. So I finally had enough and said lets each put up a hundred bucks and go race. Midway through 4th gear, I had already put 8 car lengths on him and I was pulling away fast. After the race, he wanted to see my engine and then he claimed I cheated because he thought it still had the factory 305 engine. He did pay me but we defiantly don't borrow lawnmowers from each other.
@barryfields29644 жыл бұрын
They’ve put an LS in everything else. I’m about sick of LS swaps.
@anthonynelson91364 жыл бұрын
@@barryfields2964 Just curious what would you use for a swap?
@xnetpc3 жыл бұрын
How did the 1985-1988 Chevy Nova not make this list? It should be number one.
@nene90047R14 жыл бұрын
I remember when GM try to revive the Monte Carlo SS in the early 2000’s The 85 to 88 SS was a beauty car I had one
@ponyboy21954 жыл бұрын
Wish they. Bought the grand national back
@black_jackledemon62984 жыл бұрын
My first car was an 82 Gran Prix. The front end was unique on the 2+2 but I prefer the stock one. Good thing about it is GM was really interchangeable [junkyard C.BOP] so as a young guy with a used car. I was able to really step it up by robbing affordable parts off the other wreaked "sports" models and eventually replaced the sluggish V6 with a V8. But the speed limit in Texas was 55mph max at the time so even with an underpowered V6 that car was *so comfortable inside* and tint and installing sound systems from my shop meant I pieced together nice audio for cheap. New cars are better but that's what was available to us late 80s early 90s. *I can't work on the new ones though*
@TheProAer4 жыл бұрын
A Dodge Charger should never ever be front wheel drive, what were they thinking?
@Wildstar404 жыл бұрын
In a nutshell the big three big wigs were afraid the gasoline shortage would last forever and they scrambled to compete with the imports. In other words, they dumped their expensive girlfriends, put lipstick on a pig and put it out on the street to see how it would do. The rest is history.
@disappointednep-nep24304 жыл бұрын
LincolnTek you make it sound like most of those cars were garbage. The Rebranded Mitsubishis of Chrysler (especially the later ones) were no slouch and had huge potential, since their JDM counterparts had a lot of aftermarket support, such as widebodies, turbo kits, and parts from the venerable HKS. The people who get upset about JDM performance cars rebranded as American cars are boomers who hate them because they’re not “amercian” or big enough
@SixteenChickens4 жыл бұрын
i owned a brand new '86 Shelby Charger with the 2.2 turbo engine. It was a very fast car that got 22 mpg city. Back then that was the magic combination that the big three were looking for. The car could do burnouts, but the front wheel drive torque would pull the whole car to the right, so keeping it in a straight line while accelerating under boost was a big challenge.
@davidjackson25244 жыл бұрын
Honourable mention - from JDM - the Mitsubishi Eclipse. Originally a sporty coupe and convertible. Brought back recently as a crossover SUV.
@gearsofwar3xXx4 жыл бұрын
Or a wheezy subcompact sedan or hatch. The SUV is actually called the Eclipse Cross, if you wanna get technical.
@Zenrising_YTCM_President4 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd be in for a laugh when I saw this come up but now I just feel dead inside.
@andrewdrabble89394 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the revived Pontiac GTO (complete with the bonnet nostrils) too based on the Holden/ Vauxhall Monaro
@michaelbaumgardner25304 жыл бұрын
So true video,and I sorely miss Pontiac.!!!
@jeffreyrubish3474 жыл бұрын
The performance versions of the Solstice were interesting.
@backyardbuck63624 жыл бұрын
@Benny Silin GTO ?
@robertbeirne98134 жыл бұрын
Backyard Buck this and the G8. Holdens, with LS engines.
@adammammana3674 жыл бұрын
Why would anybody thumbs down your videos? All your information are facts.
@OldHeathen19634 жыл бұрын
I had a 86 Charger...it was a good newspaper delivery car! LOL!
@scottthewaterwarrior4 жыл бұрын
It's really impressive how much engine power has increased over the years. That 1984 Mustang GT 350 had a 5.0 liter V8 with 175 horsepower. Meanwhile the 1998 Ford Windstar _minivan_ I used to have had a 3.8 liter V6 with 200 horsepower!
@peteandrepete5284 жыл бұрын
These old cars with the carburetors were easy to work on and a lot of parts were interchangeable .No computer to mess with either.
@tosborne8062 Жыл бұрын
Late 90's and newer vehicles I see everyday, and some 70's cars/trucks/vans I see time to time like there is some restoration or they've been sitting a while or sitting at someone's house at a yard. Now 60's and back of course are gems and I will see customized, original, better or worse they exist, anywhere from from a rust bucket to show car. When it comes to early 1980s' cars up to mid 90s' vehicles I have noticed they have become ghosts... they are to my perspective are almost more rare than some classics, at least what I see roadworthy. Perhaps a lot were scrapped due to little value or due to cheap materials, or possibly there is low interest in restoration in this era of vehicles, or there might be shortage of parts and many consumers decided to move on... ( and it also could be where I live as well * didn't think of that *) Anyway Interesting Vid thnx!
@johnfrese48514 жыл бұрын
to be honest when they rebranded the cars in the 80"s they could have made them more peppy than what they were. it is sad that majority of people then and now do not know how to maintain and know what they have as in a turbo setup. I own two of the old school mustangs that are turbo as well as the challenger from the 80's. granted I rebuilt the engines as well as the turbo setups in the mustangs that to me were a bad air flow setup to a setup that they needed to breath a lot better.
@mrjohnnyk4 жыл бұрын
The 80's was the early years of turbocharging for most manufacturers, they definitely didn't have them down that well yet.
@billfeld58834 жыл бұрын
Big block powered muscle era car's won't be replaced by my children making up their version of them. 440, 426 & 383 Challenger's &Charger's are what us babyboomer's drove all year long, myself I owned a 69 GTX ,thanks for sharing.
@john-vy1ml4 жыл бұрын
Olds quad 442 was an absolute beast and got 32 mpg.
@Ben-qb4lj4 жыл бұрын
32?! 😳
@john-vy1ml4 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-qb4lj yes sir (highway). That motor was way ahead of its time. Unfortunately they all blew head gaskets which ruined the motors. That car was great in scca racing also.
@tonecapone80214 жыл бұрын
@@john-vy1ml I had one back in the day. I miss that car. I had to pop the hood more than once to show people it was just a 4 cylinder. Mine lost it's timing chain at 60,000 miles. Bent every valve in the motor, but didn't break anything else. The little car lot I bought it from gave me an extended warranty.. That saved me $1,500.
@michaelhaulotte6894 жыл бұрын
You just watered down the word “beast “. It was a 4 cylinder with < 200 hp . Who cares about MPG’s , it was ugly as a toenail.
@evsnova744 жыл бұрын
The DIS says you get 32mpg but I've been calculating the mpg on mine and it's a consistent 26
@chumbawaumbacumpa4 жыл бұрын
The 80’s GM G-body performance cars were cool regardless of not having the performance of their namesakes, like the Olds 442 and Hurst Olds Cutlasses. The Where the Buick GNX used a turbo V6 to its advantage, the Olds FE3-X (didn’t enter production) used a V8 and extensive improvements to suspension and handling, it could out-handle a Corvette of the time.
@grumblyone33344 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to sob. Those were the cars churned out when I was a kid. At least there were a lot of the real muscle cars still left over then. Now however? Ya need an IT degree to even bother with them.
@shertechsystems4 жыл бұрын
I used to own a 91Olds 442. I loved it, however the problem I had was behind the doors at the rocker panel, the paint came off. Like sand blasted or something. The dealer repainted and a few months later, it looked bad again, they painted again and added clear adhesive stickers to the edge. I only drove the car for 3 years but loved it.
@HitManTPanda4 жыл бұрын
Look ma it's a montecarlo with a face lift!! 🤣🤣🤣
@Levman743 жыл бұрын
I can only watch this video on 1.5x speed. He speaks slower than molasses in Christmas
@johncholmes6434 жыл бұрын
I died of laughter when I saw the 442.
@landspeed774 жыл бұрын
Wrong on the 442, the Olds achieva was the last w-code car
@ezcondition4 жыл бұрын
a friend of mine had a quad 4. that thing was fast asf!
@captain1504 жыл бұрын
The revived 442 was a sweet car with a sweet engine. If only Olds didn't call it a 442, I'm sure it would have sold better and would have a better reputation now.
@SilverBeardGuerilla4 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories of HS, all the chicks had the charger 2.2 and most of the guys were saving for that 305 HiPo Monte or Cutlass . To this day I can still see the looks on their faces when I flew past them in my 78 Datsun 810 .
@danaostrom86314 жыл бұрын
From my decade, the chicks drove Camaro Berlinetta's and the guys drove Honda 750/4 with a 4 into 1 Kerker header!
@paulw97324 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the content this is not the first time I watched one of your vids, but the slow motion kills me.
@Desertfox923084 жыл бұрын
Truly embarrassing that Detroit chose to trash the proud history of their performance cars with these posers! The Challenger/Charger being perhaps the WORST!🤮💩
@RichieD_214 жыл бұрын
Not their fault. Blame the government and all the regulations they passed during that time.
@manoman04 жыл бұрын
Guberment Regulation, my friend, guberment regulations....
@disappointednep-nep24304 жыл бұрын
The Shelby Charger was pretty fast for its day, and is by no means “the worst”
@manoman04 жыл бұрын
@@disappointednep-nep2430 In fact, yes, it was a quick machine back in the day. My friend had the 2.2 Turbo. Went like stink.
@MayheM_723 жыл бұрын
I actually had an '83 Challenger. On paper, it should have been a winner. 2 door hardtop, rear wheel drive, "big" OHC 4 cylinder, 5 speed manual, 4 wheel disk brakes...alas, the "challenge" was trying to keep it running.
@patcurrie98884 жыл бұрын
Chrysler Charger nowadays is a joke too! 4 freakin doors, WTH?
@MikeBrown-ex9nh4 жыл бұрын
I understand that some people like four door convenience combined with performance, but they shouldn't have used the Charger name. I can't believe they didn't even offer a two door version.
@Jamespennington714 жыл бұрын
The 80's 442 failed because it wasn't even a 442. The model name means 4 speed stick, 4 bbl, 2 dual exhaust. I'm not sure they even met one of those requirements in the 80's model. So.......fail!
@richwalls76784 жыл бұрын
I know what to put on when I can't sleep
@ramrodson54614 жыл бұрын
Is the guy who narrates for this channel Steve Magnante? It just sounds so much like him either way I love it keep it up.
@donbishow54974 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see the Pontiac LeMans 1960s and 1980s models. Daewoo rebadged.
@stephen31644 жыл бұрын
I test drove a used 80’s (?) Lemans. This was before the internet. I was expecting a GM subcompact - instead it was complete trash!
@donbishow54974 жыл бұрын
@@stephen3164 yea, late 80s to early 90s for the subcompact.
@henrywashington37324 жыл бұрын
DaeWHOOOO? Daewoo! DaeWHOOOOOOO?
@illogicalgarage86414 жыл бұрын
@@stephen3164 you were expecting a GM compact, but got trash? So you got exactly what you wanted?
@clevelandaeromotive4 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t until recently that I finally understood the 1984 GT350 had no better engine than a regular GT. Sad.
@BuzzLOLOL4 жыл бұрын
Don't think it offered "EFI", either...
@billyclub97334 жыл бұрын
Umm CaNtalina? It's supposed to be Catalina... no N. Does that mean it can't? 🤦♂️
@vettepurist3044 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative! Keep up the good work I hope to see more
@kentleytaggart58164 жыл бұрын
The olds was pretty good, very few out there in good condition.
@Nickos1b4 жыл бұрын
In 1983 my dad bought me the same Dodge Charger at 4:30 with the normally aspired "high output" engine making if I remember correctly around 110 hp. It had the same color as this example but not the aluminum wheels. I was ecstatic and the power was adequate for the power deficient 80's especially with my right foot being heavy on the gas pedal all the time. The Dodge Omni connection was apparent as soon as you lifted the hood. You immediately saw the engine behind the metal facia of the Omni complete with the openings for the lights and the radiator. Then an added extension to form the longer facia of the Charger.
@Johnny96ri Жыл бұрын
Note: the HO 2.2 had the same power as the GTI.
@Nickos1b Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny96ri Do you mean the VW GTI?
@Johnny96ri Жыл бұрын
@@Nickos1b yes.
@Nickos1b Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny96ri From what I remember the US-made 1.8L Rabbit (Golf) GTI made 90hp back then. At the time I owned the Charger a good friend had that exact GTI and even if the power was supposed to be down from mine he was keeping up and even outrunning me. I got to test it and it was a joy to drive. Better than the Charger, especially in the transmission department.
@Johnny96ri Жыл бұрын
@@Nickos1b that's because you didn't have the right engine: the MPI turbocharged 2.2 in the GLH.