My conspiracy theory is, that math teachers made this game to prove us wrong when we told them we'd never need the stuff they were teaching us.
@knayvik3 ай бұрын
wait till you see the warframe math
@ryechew3 ай бұрын
I really didn't know people would like all this math. I've done this for a long time but never shared with people.
@minzekatze3 ай бұрын
@@ryechew please always share this stuff is too interesting and ill sub because of it
@ryechew3 ай бұрын
@@minzekatze Im super excited to do this in monster hunter
@blacknova77893 ай бұрын
@@ryechewomg yes please! Monhun maths is honestly engaging af and goes along way for meta builds!
@azzyx88703 ай бұрын
Easily the best TFD channel there is. Everyone else doing helpful guides is convenient but THE MATH is what really counts for the ultra sweats like myself. Appreciate it very much. Looks like i can relax on the defence currently at 52k on Freyna.
@ryechew3 ай бұрын
I think so. I want mine at 50k the rest goes to hp. But that's for me
@azzyx88703 ай бұрын
@@ryechew Definitely stack HP. Shields seem almost worthless in this game. Increased HP and HP Amplification mods are well worth over shield mods imo.
@steveaguilar98333 ай бұрын
@@azzyx8870 is that because you can get hp drops from mobs? I feel like I prefer hp mods too
@johndymond45963 ай бұрын
I'm at about 4k lol
@Mashamazzi3 ай бұрын
I haven't progressed too far yet, but what I prefer to know is the brackets for diminishing returns Not sure how that would fit into this game yet though
@fedord013 ай бұрын
I am sooo grateful that people like you exist in this community! I've been wondering since day 1 about defense and resists and what number is optimal etc. You are awesome for doing the hard testing for us. Kudos to you.
@McLoven-vm1ck3 ай бұрын
I'm sure a lot us were, especially us looter-shooter fans/vets that have come from Warframe and the division where we have been min maxing defense for years. Having no idea what values I'm after has been driving me nuts and I've just been trying to stack as much as I reasonably can.
@gasser50013 ай бұрын
I love when people science the shit out of stuff AND THEN SHARE THAT INFO!!! You’re a legend, my friend. Liked and sub’d for the cause.
@Gloom_YT3 ай бұрын
I'm so bad at math that I get mesmerized by people who actually calculates things from a game. For that... I thank you for existing.
@htidman233 ай бұрын
That makes two of us🤣
@xenvius_3 ай бұрын
Same! I’m excited for his excel sheet so I can plug in numbers and it calculates for me 😊😅
@aZRLLL_NL3 ай бұрын
same here!
@freezax43 ай бұрын
He incorrect calculation for the whole game lol 😂 bro just took the best guess he could from being hit lol 😂😂
@lukaspumo34982 ай бұрын
You should see the backend for elden ring 😂 the equations for protections is actually insane and like almost 20 years old
@Hammer2k113 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. No nonsense and crunching hard numbers about the game's mechanics. And thank you for putting the hours in with all the damage testing.
@camking57403 ай бұрын
FINALLY I found you. I have swam through a sea of content creators and their super awesome best in the game BS tier lists and stale farm locations. The guy who does it right. To the point, effective, and mathematically proven. As an engineer I have but one thing to say, SUBSCRIIIIIBED!
@Mostbaleia3 ай бұрын
No click bait, not a parrot repeating what every other has said already, actually testing and researching their own material, and goes directly to the point without making roundabouts around the topic. I love it.
@sailboattrash3 ай бұрын
Also an engineer. Also subscribed. Also not just reading and repeating what the descriptions in the game already fucking tell us.
@jawsjawsjaws163 ай бұрын
I never sub channels. Clean explanation, math proof, sample of the testing at the end. You sir got a new sub!
@raymondwang62723 ай бұрын
as now i only played Ajax, I was blindly building up Def and HP lol. Very informative video, thank you for the great work.
@mirasolovklose38883 ай бұрын
As Ajax you can use the DEF as you void walk scales of it.
@alaskayoung34133 ай бұрын
When should I stop building defense at?
@shabazzbrumley61512 ай бұрын
my first game i've played consistently like this and i appreciate the amount of effort you put into this video keep up the great work
@Rogue20XX3 ай бұрын
505k dps because of this channel, thank you
@kmitsu23193 ай бұрын
no wonder i had like 45k DEF and 3k HP but i still died easily on bunny, now I optimized my module and got around 25k DEF and 14k HP and its much better!!
@CrestOfDragonar3 ай бұрын
That part
@DG-23233 ай бұрын
How are you getting that much HP? I feel like I’m only seeing buffs of like 100-200?
@TuskedMedia3 ай бұрын
@@DG-2323 there are a good number of modules that buff hp. Got to the Access Log for Modules and search HP. You'll find everything there. They for sure have the blue Increased HP maxed which is already +190%. It can go crazy from there tbh. Though 14k is quite high.
@CrestOfDragonar3 ай бұрын
@@DG-2323depends if you beat the campaign, if you did then those numbers are due to ultimate HP external components with max mp also equipped inside the roll pool. Also if your max hp mod is maxed out that’s another reason that’s all I know, most likely someone knows more than me brotha.
@CrestOfDragonar3 ай бұрын
@JustinBlazeDraxx 🫡noted, im going to adjust some things when I get home. Appreciate the explanation
@dooleyragan2043 ай бұрын
I’m literally only commenting because this is easily the best channel I have found for actually finding real stats and info about how to min max this game and I just want to show engagement so the algorithm recommends this channel more often to people. Thank you for all the work and info sir.
@Gurtington3 ай бұрын
I love that youre a valby main as well. :) Her little wave to me when i log in, and her being so tanky naturally just feel so good.
@AetherFD3 ай бұрын
Bro actually went crazy on this! The time and effort deserve the views. Support this guy!
@ZefraSol2 ай бұрын
Damn im so glad i got this channel recommended to me. Its bringing me back to Khan Academy days for TFD
@GameKaps3 ай бұрын
I did some of my own testing and will continue to and so far they align pretty closely with what you displayed here. Good to see collaborative conclusions so I’m more comfortable in my setup being efficient.
@Urthril3 ай бұрын
I was scouring the internet for this info. You got a subscriber for being the first to post about it. My man.
@seangallagher45193 ай бұрын
As a user testing metric: When engineers/developers/designers are the only ones who understand what they've made, that's bad product design. Thanks for going into this tho. Nexon should cut you a check!
@DnskiiYT3 ай бұрын
The fact that I bumped into your damage video two days ago, and now you have 7k added subscribers is so heart warming to me Edit- Now 8k, I just checked your channel out this morning 😂
@curtishonts78023 ай бұрын
Even if some of the things might be off for one reason or another (Not that I'm suggesting it is) you deserve an upvote simply for the testing you put in, and data
@midegola56233 ай бұрын
this is what iv been waiting for
@ryechew3 ай бұрын
I had to fix a segment in it. It will be back in an hour or so
@misterq34093 ай бұрын
Me too
@hashim45123 ай бұрын
Droppin a comment to help the video with the algo , truly , thanks for laying down the foundation for us ~~
@ryechew3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Although these math vids are doing it for the algorithm lol
@EllyYoutube2 ай бұрын
This is a great video, thanks for sharing!
@jeremy51593 ай бұрын
bro you are a god send. The amount of work and math you do so we can understand how the game works is insane. Thank you
@freezax43 ай бұрын
Yet it is wrong lol 😂
@shelbyjackson11283 ай бұрын
Man's doing the lord's work. So glad you're explaining all the interworkings sir
@Kahnthelongshot2 ай бұрын
Super dope. I can tweak my build off these vids. Feels good to know i was close to what's really matters numbers wise.
@kilua876593 ай бұрын
Kudos mate youre the only reliable one ive found to have tested these stats mathematically. Great videos appreaciate it!
@ANTIxSHAM3 ай бұрын
Love the video man! I’m no math wiz like you but I’ve been saying elemental resistances aren’t worth much in this game. Glad you did the work and cleared it up.
@wyteprvlge3 ай бұрын
bro your channel has been a blessing to find. you got a patreon or something? this work needs to be rewarded
@z00ko3 ай бұрын
LOVE this man. This is what I found too in my calculations in me soloing and moving things around to test shields, hp, and defense. This is spot on in after messing with every combination possible making bunny solo any end game content without any worries for damage being done to her
@brandenclark87973 ай бұрын
Bro no lie I was watching your vid last night and when I saw you get up go to the actual drawing board I had to subscribe I appreciate all the time you put in for this game it’s a bit over whelming so thank you for clarifying a lot of things for the community ❤
@ChaoticD3sTroYeR3 ай бұрын
Jesus I love your channel, thx a lot for clearing up the math making sure we know things properly. What works, how it works and to what effectiveness. Much love.
@chef_zhab16543 ай бұрын
Thanks à lot for the explanation . Nothing is boring dont worry when you theorycraft we need those précise calculations so thanks a lot . I make vidéos in french I will probably try to explain your video as clear as I can in french and of course ill mention your chanel . Thats a lot of work so thank you again for all these détails. It helps à lot of people.
@manofsheerawsomness3 ай бұрын
Subbed right away after seeing the math and logic behind all this. As for what I'd love to see, well there are far more modules than weapons I'd love to see a weapons list and module overviews or builds, its what I struggle with the most (currently at executioner and final bunny quest).
@ArtesPRoSoul3 ай бұрын
Huge thanks for that DEF test. I was wondering how much DEF I should stack and now I know that around 35-40k will be enough for me.
@Abbe10able3 ай бұрын
Finally someone solving this defense problem, thanks 🙏
@karistonluphus913 ай бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
@Roachers3 ай бұрын
So glad I saw this. I have been trying to figure out what my tank build will need and this answers it all.
@cl0ud883 ай бұрын
Sorry that this is off topic but did his subs just double since I last looked yesterday? good on you I like what you do and it is honestly a shame that there are not more people doing serious calculations on game mechanics. thanks for doing this, my smooth brain can't come up with those numbers and proper testing methods.
@ryechew3 ай бұрын
The subscribers exploding are giving me anxiety.....
@Miguel-NightRider2 ай бұрын
Hey, whatsup men! well, good explanation, but, can you teach about elemental defense, against enemies of the each region? the tip apeears so fast, and never showed again. In the entire google dont have info about it, ho make this tutorial probably will be named the king of this game.
@SomeChristianGuy.3 ай бұрын
Heya. Your work is awesome thank you for it. Question: How much value does sensory deprivation provide? Gives an incoming damage modifier of -10.5% at max whilst reducing a secondary stat, hp or mp etc...
@finalsin78253 ай бұрын
this is great , thank you . i noticed when i was at 96k def and when i hit 100k i saw a difference. now after watching this vid ill go back down to 60k and stack hp.
@Alicization303 ай бұрын
I love these sorts of content way more than clickbait outrage titles like from Force Gaming or Aztecross. Thanks and subscribed.
@DiamondPugs3 ай бұрын
Thank you for confirming that elemental resistance is pretty much useless at higher difficulties. With exactly pyromancer I noticed they were a waste of a slot.
@Fexer953 ай бұрын
Coming from POE and doing math for the most dumb things, using like 5 external programs and the bests build videos being 40 min long math class with 30 seg gameplay showcase this video is a caress to my soul
@tooeztv7603 ай бұрын
Bro is a gem to the community
@wasaqueify3 ай бұрын
The jump cuts are driving me crazy. Here's the summary of the video: Defense reduces incoming damage according to a formula that the speaker couldn't quite figure out. But he did find out that defense has diminishing returns. The more defense you have, the less effective each additional point of defense becomes. The speaker recommends having around 40,000 to 50,000 defense for the most bang for your buck. Elemental resistances are separate from defense and they are subtractive. They reduce the amount of elemental damage you take. The speaker recommends having around 5 to 7,000 elemental resistances. Similar to defense, elemental resistances also have diminishing returns.
@josemartinez88192 ай бұрын
Haven't read the comments but off the tip of my head, there is a module for crit resist. Haven't noticed any crazy crit though. As for the formula, the damage can change based on weapon damage(crush, etc). Also probably a flat rate based on enemy type(normal, commander, etc).
@northloo3 ай бұрын
As a software engineer looking at lots of youtube for learning. This level of quality is insane for a videogame. I am astonished lmao
@anarchyinc1243 ай бұрын
I love these sorts of videos, they remind me just how mathematically challenged i am. 😅😂
@panchozo73652 ай бұрын
Im glad i found my content creator for TFD
@TimmyMicBobbins3 ай бұрын
Great Video sir, thank you. Does this change in 4 player co-op? like can enemies lower you Resistances more ? due to scaling?
@FalHNTR59803 ай бұрын
I've been thinking bout this today when i was setting up my mods and did trial and error on enemy bosses, and i found your video, this helps a lot! thanks!
@kaptainkittens5833 ай бұрын
Really cool, I've been wondering about defence ever since the first beta and stacking as much as possible on Ajax :) Greatly appreciate the work you've put in, been following your last few videos, had a small thing though; the amount of cuts you do in the video/speech means some words are sometimes cut off and at least for me makes it harder to follow, wouldn't mind less cuts and more pauses!
@TheRealTSSF3 ай бұрын
Finally some good fucking content. A gem of a channel hidden in the rough. There’s about 1000 different videos titled “how to get bunny early”. this video is so refreshing. 😂
@ReyRey2773 ай бұрын
tbh I dont want them to make defense too OP.. I want that reliance on the tank shields for more cooporative play
@YWP4UL03 ай бұрын
Best Tfd content creator, keep it going the math videos, helping me a lot and pretty sure others too
@chriscaraballo68763 ай бұрын
Bro I’ve been asking if there was cap in crit rate def and all other thing no one has answers now we do thanks bro
@DaMasta_Sho_Nuff3 ай бұрын
You’ve explained some key things I needed help with on your videos. Thank you
@MrD3STR03R3 ай бұрын
Great video, really informative. Since you're so good at math, I think a video breaking down the drop rates would be great. Since there's a lot of misinformation out there with people thinking that a 20% drop rate means that they will get it within 5 runs...
@onai.70823 ай бұрын
really enjoy these videos as a warframe player because i have 2-3k hours in warframe and im always running numbers or calculations when making new builds
@NotoriousNickNorris3 ай бұрын
Finding the right balance for DEF/HP/Shields I think is the info we all have want.
@damazsta3 ай бұрын
I use a maxed out polygenic and I’ll probably take it off after this vid.. but are any of the specific resistances worth it? Or is resistances in general not worth it? And if you are gonna choose a legend to farm. Choose Kyle. I wanna see how he compares to Ajax.
@L0RDP1NGU3 ай бұрын
See ive been needing stuff like this to understand stats more thank you 🔥
@YT_Toxic-Mothman3 ай бұрын
This was something i really wanted to look into cause i just wanted more of an understanding about it because while im not a "nerdy math person" things didn't feel like they added up at all
@92mkd3 ай бұрын
I love numbers. Number go up , good. Def should be simple (if u have 1k hp, 0def, u take 100damage u take 100 damage, thàt makes sense. If u have 1khp and 2k def when u get hit for 100damage it should get mitigated by half dealing only 50damage. But if you have 500hp and 2k defence it should scale down as it should work off your up value first. I think defence should be reworked as a DR % on top your your up before or after resistances.)
@alexossan28293 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I understand the resistances part. Do you mean that for example at 4000 resistance, no matter what enemy, I reduce the elemental part of their hit by a flat 9 health, not 9%? Initially I just thought you meant percent when you said 5, 9, 15 etc. :(
@iigotskillzz48363 ай бұрын
really need a "you take x% less damage" like warframe has with it's armour stat
@xSpeakerYT3 ай бұрын
But that's not how it works because the damage your defense reduces depends on the enemies attacks.
@maxfieldstewart73633 ай бұрын
@@xSpeakerYT They could however just show you different percent reductions at different attack value tiers, just a sample set would be fine. Eventually players will figure out the attack values of various mobs. That said, someone will eventually builda TFD wiki with this stuff /if/ the game stays popular enough.
@ondrejvasak10543 ай бұрын
Could you make a video on skill power damage? Difference between "skill power" and "skill power modifier" increases, whether regular skill power, toxic skill power and tech skill power stack multiplicatively or additively, etc. I have hard time finding good resources.
@heartboyxo24963 ай бұрын
It's EXTREMELY rare for me to "Like and Subscribe". Thank you for giving me a reason to do both today.
@skindiesel003 ай бұрын
Bro pulled out the chalkboard to explain, thank you for simplifying this for those of us with monkey brains
@pearson6743 ай бұрын
great video. the only thing that’s missing is what you would recommend for the Hard Void Intercepts. does this mean i should stack all the way to 20k+ defense and like 7k fire resist for pyromancer? or should i maybe throw some health in there too?
@MadtvAKAgingermonkey3 ай бұрын
You are the absolute best. I appreciate you. I literally never comment on videos
@susanoo69623 ай бұрын
as soon i saw the board i knew it’s gonna be a good video
@dloc59942 ай бұрын
Ur videos are like a college course try to watch 1 a day but I still suck at math😂😂
@josefranciscouzcateguiflor51813 ай бұрын
this was exactly what I was looking for yesterday to optimize my Ajax build. Thank you very much!!
@_MrTrue3 ай бұрын
Wow, this is really amazing content. I appreciate the effort and time you invested into mathing this out. Easy sub!
@K-popQueenSoo-Ah3 ай бұрын
The one you should also take into consideration for this formula as well is characters that have hp and damage reduction in their kit such as Gley and Valby.
@Mordtziel3 ай бұрын
Hi, little nitpick here. I just tested the difference of resistance against enemies. In particular, I chose a high damage attack, unlike the low damage attack you're dealing with in this video, I chose a bomber (hard mode Kingston recon). At 652.8 resistance, I took 1,723 damage. At 5,266.8 resistance, I took 1,506 damage. A 13% reduction. It seems to me to be similar to defense (but log4 instead of log2), we just don't typically stack it nearly as much (I'm estimating resistance cap around 63k). Feel free to look into it more deeply (4 components+antibodies+maximize+yellow resist%), but it's definitely not as low an amount as you're suggesting here. Still not that valuable (due to investment requirement), but it's not a value of 5 either.
@zackspangler993 ай бұрын
You deserve more subs with the amount of time you are putting into these videos
@lophius76143 ай бұрын
wow im so glad i focused defense early at any cost like dropping damage/resistances for it. nexon needs a slap upside the head for this clarity for their stats
@johanrojassoderman55903 ай бұрын
I wish they'd show the DR values in-game. It's so immeasurably dumb to have a generic numeral DEF and not tell the player what the actual value or scaling is. Thank you a lot for the video 👍🏻
@hamsterjohn2 ай бұрын
Doing God's work 👍
@xTeh3 ай бұрын
Quick Summarization for the ADHD like myself Diminishing Returns start kicking in around: - 40-50k DEF - 5-7k Ele Res Ele Res is less important than DEF, especially at higher levels/more difficult bosses Polygenic Antibody is especially useless
@ryechew3 ай бұрын
yes correct. I would imagine the returns are better the harder the bosses are but i think grinding for a 50k setup after mods equipped id enough
@SebastianNiight3 ай бұрын
What build you use for valby? I found her skills very underwhelming, the dot dmg is not high and casting time takes so long, killing mobs with weapon is much faster.
@Chandratama-g3p3 ай бұрын
Thank God, I found this video. I wasted my resource for polygenic antibody and Increase DEF. Both are maxed out. 💀💀💀
@KaizikuM3 ай бұрын
When I saw your dps weapon video, I knew you'd want to do defense, and I've been wondering about this. Great video!
@Joesf_3 ай бұрын
Question, so if you were playing on Ajax or Kyle would you still want to be in the 40-50k range like you said? Or is it fine to go higher like 65-70k
@Cxdfc3 ай бұрын
Based on the tool tip I thought it was a pure Enemy ATK - your DEF = damage you take. But never tested it Thanks for the effort
@SeuOu3 ай бұрын
Great info, so it sounds like Defense is % reduction based, while Resistance is a flat reduction so meaningful against small hits but useless against large hits?
@fruitrollups24853 ай бұрын
So what you’re saying is I should build 100k defense with Kyle. Thanks man imma get started right now
@jonathanberry86563 ай бұрын
I mean Kyle passive literally revolves around his max shields. Should prolly get to around 50-60k and focus on hp/shields.
@houndsraddforb42843 ай бұрын
Damn so essentially elemental resistance isn't as good as health stacked with defense?
@ryechew3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Should have said that thanks
@DigitalWolverine3 ай бұрын
Similar to warframe in that regard.
@VengeDracul2 ай бұрын
I have been looking for components with HP and Defense. Compare to when I first started playing the game. When I first started, I was looking for Defense. Not any more.
@NPC_Dingo3 ай бұрын
Blair is sort of on everybody's bad tier list, but I'd love to see you do a build for him. I personally think he is really fun but sub par for the most part and if you could get the most out of him that would be awesome
@illumo_d23 ай бұрын
That man is cooking up w/ maths, love it, thanks a lot ! Do you think it is possible to make a true DPS calculator on spreadsheet with the maths from one of your previous videos ? I'd like to make this for the purpose of keeping track and learning more !
@Rexy25523 ай бұрын
As an ajax main I appreciate knowing my 93k defense is doing something thak you sir
@xelguard3 ай бұрын
What sort of Sharen build are you going for? iE the 1 shot sniper or a melee skill spammer
@XxS1L3NtKnIgHtxX2 ай бұрын
Do you think the something extra is “character specific” like natural defense? Defense would have to change per character.
@vKross3 ай бұрын
what might help figuring out the formula in game, is going to dungeons and starting them, leaving one enemy of the first group alive and letting him hit you once (of course, making sure same attack, etc.) and then cancelling the dungeon, that allows you to hold F2 to open a menu where you can see your Damage taken.
@Shadowreaper84353 ай бұрын
so are the elemental resistances just a flat -x damage reduction at certain values? so does it just reduce the incoming toxic damage by a flat 9 damage at 4k? there's a small jump in the video and it seems a small chunk is missing