Oleg Zhokh vs Betkili Oniani - East vs West15 Left Arm 95kg World Title Match

Рет қаралды 303,536

Engin Terzi Enigma of Rage

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 789

@Engin_Terzi Ай бұрын

ESN presents , East vs West 15 int.esn.com/

@yakokrato Ай бұрын

Engin you have to get an audio engineer next time, the commentators microohones have to be set up so that they don’t pick up the echoes of the room. 👍

@EcomHustler Ай бұрын

put Rino match

@AW_Bloatlord Ай бұрын

❤️

@thebaonguyen6641 Ай бұрын

Khoẻ quá. Oleg phải tập thêm nhiều. 😂

@ColAngus Ай бұрын

Glad to see Oleg back on stage...greetings from Texas USA

@thureintun1687 Ай бұрын

yes we are lucky to still havin him

@Sidd1481 Ай бұрын

@@thureintun1687touch some grass

@rpbigshaq Ай бұрын

техас получить независимость от США?

@ColAngus Ай бұрын

@@rpbigshaq No...still in the Union. We have not seceded...yet

@thureintun1687 Ай бұрын

@@ColAngus i wouldn't recommend that sir And i love every human being on the planet earth

@norkh1707 Ай бұрын

In 2013, Oleg Zhokh defeated John Brzenk at the UAL and even pinned Devon Larratt. At the PAL in 2016, he won cleanly against Vitali Laletin. In 2017, he pinned Levan Saginashvili in a training match and was at his peak. However, in 2018, he suffered a tragic car accident in which both his father and his mentor Andriy Pushkar lost their lives, and he broke his arms multiple times. Doctors said he would never arm wrestle again, but that didn’t stop Oleg. Still, you can see just how much weaker he has become.

@Patriotic_Christian Ай бұрын

This breaks my heart!!!😭😭😭💔💔💔

@TheCatabolicTrex Ай бұрын

@Patriotic_Christian he beat johns weak arm and didnt pin larratt clean and practice wins dont count

@norkh1707 Ай бұрын

@@TheCatabolicTrex bro come on.. why u bashing now..

@ThePathtoTruth. Ай бұрын

Тем не менее, вы можете видеть, насколько он стал слабее.Это только начало нового пути...

@КОСМОС-п6ж Ай бұрын

Хватит врать уже

@johnhawes2262 Ай бұрын

I’m really surprised Oleg still put up this much of a fight. After seeing Betkili toy with Tainov, I thought his revenge would be a lot cleaner. Bravo Oleg.

@MilaanTornbergroeo Ай бұрын

He should increase overall strength/size in order to compensate that mutant left forearm

@vvendetta3540 Ай бұрын

До аварии Жох валил тяжей. Сейчас Жох уже не тот.

@ADA513 Ай бұрын

Im sure if he went down to his own weight class he'd dominate. Glad to see him back on a big stage, and still wrestling well above his weight class.

@shaurya5324 Ай бұрын

Oleg has never been the same after the accident

@rizalsaputra4011 Ай бұрын

Please tell me whats wrong with oleg

@Posttoproll7 Ай бұрын

Bla bla bla

@SauronKarratt Ай бұрын

Oleg will DESTROY you with One finger

@Editor_328 Ай бұрын

Ya correct 😢

@shaurya5324 Ай бұрын

@@Posttoproll7 😂

@farmazoIin Ай бұрын

The judging at this event was not very good. Betkili was constantly turning on his shoulder before the start, while Oleg was leveled. In any case, a good match for Oleg, since Betkili is now at his peak.

@Despond Ай бұрын

Yeah, the refereeing was below average.

@FermentedGrumpyGrapeSqueezit Ай бұрын

Betkilli shoulder starts way too turned into the pads and he has an iron shoulder. Refs did a terrible job making sure he straightened his shoulder

@TapaKaH_y_KocTpa Ай бұрын

Согласен

@hagopderderian6824 Ай бұрын

i noticed that too

@themaveric32 Ай бұрын

Yeah that's obvious

@ivangho6319 Ай бұрын

i also think he false starts often there, way before we can hear GO sound

@bryanmayes9234 Ай бұрын

He false starts damn near every single time

@garygary7376 Ай бұрын

For all of you wondering how could Oleg lose, guys, he barely managed to survive the car accident back in 2018 and was in a coma, he also had a brain damage and was barely able to move after he regained consciousness... It is truly a miracle that he was able to come back as a top level athlete after all that he has been through. On a side note, there is no way that Onisni's forearm is bigger, the measurements must be wrong 😅. However, Oleg is and in fact always was mainly forearm. It is clear that you need the other tools as well, like the frame, back n side pressure and the weight plays a big role here. Anyway, congrats to the champ, he is s great armwrestler. About Oleg, he has nothing to prove. Glad to see him healthy and back on the biggest stage once again!

@deaf8236 Ай бұрын

І Олег тепер не може пронувати передпліччя. У нього так зрослись кістки, що його рука завжди частково супінована, а це - велика перевага для суперника.

@fernandocombr Ай бұрын

Thanks for the precise info, bro!

@garygary7376 Ай бұрын

@fernandocombr check out his match against Devon btw, its like almost 10 years ago. You can see his real power there.

@paatarobakidze6584 29 күн бұрын

maybe Georgian is in better shape now? that I have not seen a single person who says Georgian is great just with respect. we will show you where we are from,☝️🏔️🇬🇪

@cokguzeladam Ай бұрын

watching the first round live really had me thinking Zhokh could win

@adveshdarvekar7733 Ай бұрын

Betkili has crazy technique and power. Oleg has twice the forearm but just can't output as much power. This was a good match.

@ChrolloLucilfer_0 Ай бұрын

nah, look at the stats Onianis forearm is bigger than Olegs

@simonleroy9576 Ай бұрын

Problem is known, if they drop the wrist, you can have as much hand control as you want, you need to press. Zohk has no press to finish.

@X42-w6b Ай бұрын

@@simonleroy9576 His arm is not that strong. His hand and wrist are crazy big and strong

@nickbobo1786 Ай бұрын

They do let Betkili start with his left shoulder way in though but he is really good (they both are)

@dtosmanm4743 Ай бұрын

@@ChrolloLucilfer_0 only in the stats, it's obvious looking at them that Oleg is way bigger

@MsUa-up2wl 29 күн бұрын

Олег! Ти наша гордість 🇺🇦👏🙌 всією душею вболіваю за тебе 🥹❤️🦾...як би там не було.

@brendan12882 Ай бұрын

100 false starts, a few warnings and no fouls. What am I missing?

@Majical-tt6yh Ай бұрын

Brain cells

@ankitbishnoi4470 Ай бұрын

@@Majical-tt6yh and you missed the whole brain

@attiliodelia8889 Ай бұрын

but the referee also created the fouls, this referee is the one who creates the most mystery before saying go, it seems like he wants to make a suspense movie

@MrGaneo Ай бұрын

В первом раунде: 6:15 предупреждение первое. 7:10 второе предупреждение. Первый фол. 7:55 фальстарт. все со стороны Ониани.

@josteincarlsen2905 Ай бұрын

@@MrGaneowhat about square shoulder’s when starting??

@peace4all509 Ай бұрын

I suspect that Arm Wrestling is going to become one of the world's biggest sports in the future. Maybe Dana White should have invested in AW instead of dumb slap fighting.

@zmvrcv Ай бұрын

please no, don't let him ruin it

@yofukashidayo Ай бұрын

it's probably the fastest growing niche sport (with actual fans. people mostly watched powerslap cause of its absurdity)

@JonHop1 Ай бұрын

@@yofukashidayo AW is a joke... AW today is pretty much WWF with 100x less content. Who the heck wants to watch 30 mins of setup nonsense and 2 mins of actual arm wrestling? Devon and Engin are trying to turn AW into WWE for profit. This is Devon's second attempt at a scripted Arm Wrestling Org... When WAL failed and got exposed by Mike Ayello, they swept that under the rug and Devon partnered with Engin behind the scenes to create this garbage. This kinda AW def has a limit to the popularity it can get even with them them marketing the crap out of it with all this female drama.

@peace4all509 Ай бұрын

@@yofukashidayo true 💯.. Arm wrestling is something everyone does at home..

@yofukashidayo Ай бұрын

@JonHop1 I certainly think setup and reffing needs a rework, but with that being said I can't think of another niche sport growing as fast as AW. Events have been leveling up in terms of production quality too and for people wanting more "cinematic" AW, there's armwars.

@Adr1Torn1 Ай бұрын

Thanks for uploading the matches!

@andreibale89 Ай бұрын

False Start from Betkili every time... He directly starts when the ref gets his hands off, not when he say go.

@mikehawk6918 Ай бұрын

The audio is off by about half a second.

@X42-w6b Ай бұрын

@@mikehawk6918 and referees are human they can't do both at exactly same time

@josteincarlsen2905 Ай бұрын

@@X42-w6bsquare shoulder’s??? Nothing?

@zuraforreg3088 Ай бұрын

Audio is off. You can see the ref's mouth shape. Also the taking hands off means "go" by itself.

@squidprince2456 Ай бұрын

2:33 Oleg's forearm 40cm? Maybe it's the average of 50cm left and 30cm right

@DevTsac Ай бұрын

@A_Cock Ай бұрын

Close to 50 cm in his prime but currently I'd say around 45-ish cm

@КрасныйЦвет.9 Ай бұрын

В этом матче - такое себе судейство...

@isf4801 Ай бұрын

Да не только в этом матче...

@fakenakeis5776 Ай бұрын

ага, челик начинает с плечом по центру, а судья на руки смотрит...

@BBKNBE Ай бұрын

@@fakenakeis5776да вообще пох. что с плечом ?! Это не оправдание, Олег все равно бы проиграл как ни крути 😅 Он просто не тот чел , после аварии!

@alexeyzhukov862 Ай бұрын

У грузинов, к судейству, вопросов нету...😅

@namkaban1204 Ай бұрын

@@alexeyzhukov862на Кавказе любят казаться, а не быть

@gameplayplayer2367 Ай бұрын

Betkili not straightening shoulder and false starting 😂

@josteincarlsen2905 Ай бұрын

That was awful 😣…

@bromoenook356 Ай бұрын

this shyt is a joke engin posting a 30 min vid of the commentators listening to themself talk and onianni falsing making even mire setup time than usual in this unmarketable sport and to add the refs take all this time to setup right n let oniani cheat😂

@ugolovniyrozysk Ай бұрын

tbh 8:34 is also false start by Oniani, easy to spot if you watch at 0.25 speed

@schmoey40 Ай бұрын

what a joy to see oleg on a table. He's the monster destroyer for ever

@samjay1256 Ай бұрын

Oleg is one of my favorite arm wrestlers!!

@SpaceOutCat Ай бұрын

The ref is disappointing. Oleg you are still the Man

@davidadamashvili2894 Ай бұрын

გილოცავ ბეთქილი, წარმატებები!

@Davisbovington-5ts Ай бұрын

კ

@mamukameparishvili202 Ай бұрын

შენ გენაცვალე ლომო! ❤️

@АлексейЖердев-э5я Ай бұрын

Грузинская вязь имеет весьма привлекательный вид. Красиво выглядит.

@ЭрикФерапонтов-н8ф Ай бұрын

Очень жаль. Олег уже не тот. И, это очень грустно. 😢

@user-le6ip-_._7 Ай бұрын

With full respect to Oleg as a great athlete, who also suffered from hard life troubles, it's amazing to finally see an opponent with "standard" hand who can nevertheless compete and even win. Unbelievable! ...it would be even more impressive if opponent has same weight as Oleg but well, probably good enough anyways.

@aaarewawerka3391 Ай бұрын

Пушкарь забрал часть силы у Жоха и унес с собой...

@albertlevins9191 22 күн бұрын

I hate seeing Oleg lose. I always cheer for him. Keep fighting, man! You can do this. And good job to Betkili. That must've been difficult.

@romaghorjomeladze439 Ай бұрын

Betkili and Irakli are my favorite arm wrestlers. They are insane

@namkaban1204 Ай бұрын

Just because of them being georgian….very primitive position

@giorgiolinguini Ай бұрын

@@namkaban1204 what kind of biased opinion is this? maybe because they are the best and maybe it's time for you to watch all the videos with them?

@erzhanmusaev469 Ай бұрын

@@giorgiolinguini для каждого свои будут казаться лучше. Лучший армрестлер конечно Леван, но Если p4p для меня лучший Алижан Муратов. Ониани проиграл Муратову, Иракли проиграл Кадыргали, так что объективно они не могут быть лучшими.

@dmytrog3410 Ай бұрын

This is not an excuse, but obviously this is the only way to win from Oleg, to not fight, not do arm wrestling, load the bone and wait. Sorry that Oleg doesn't know how to handle this after so many years of experience. You are still the champ, next time you will easily win, take this as a small stone on the road

@stefanobianchi8736 Ай бұрын

Side note: Travis and Neil are perfect together

@aviation1337 Ай бұрын

agree, the best possible commentator team

@downwithDleft Ай бұрын

Travis sucks

@Kyle-w9h Ай бұрын

Who wouldn't love that 40 year smoker voice?

@Sticknstone Ай бұрын

I always thought thats Devon talking XD

@albertlevins9191 22 күн бұрын

@@Sticknstone Devon does it too. But he knows everyone's names. ROFL.

@iakobgogoladze6333 Ай бұрын

უუ რა ნადირი ხარ❤❤საქართელოს გაუმარჯოს❤❤

@ІгорПротасевич Ай бұрын

Беткили все сделал красиво хоть я и болел за Олега

@Undeadly. Ай бұрын

Prime Oleg wins every time. Whats up with Betkili's setup at the beginning of the third pin?

@jevgenijsdzerins Ай бұрын

Great matc from Betkili! 💪💪💪

@АндИванов-з1э Ай бұрын

Betkili Мощь! 💪

@stepansterh4697 Ай бұрын

Он аферист, всё время неправильно стоял.

@АндИванов-з1э Ай бұрын

@@stepansterh4697 Я не знаю кухню арма, а судьи для пейзажа? Или подкупные? Объясни, я не в теме.

@ApothecaryTerry Ай бұрын

The arm wrestling is...well it might be a 9.9/10, but when Travis is talking about intestinal fortitude and Neil is commenting on the interesting direction of the referee's moustache, the arm wrestling is in for a tough time getting my attention 🤣

@ОлегИванов-х6в Ай бұрын

Что то как то странно следили за плечами Беткили, вечно полубоком стоял,у Олега плечи ровно были, какое то кривое судейство...

@ldr08eldaradome50 Ай бұрын

Да. И в конце особенно Беткили плечом тащил.

@Долото-ъ9н Ай бұрын

Судейство Жульё!!!

@ZOVFA Ай бұрын

Ну а я вот видел как Жох локоть отрывал конкретно и это тоже никто не заметил. так что. Проигравший всегда ищет отправдания. Но тут без шансов. сухая. Так что никаких случайностей тут нет.

@ldr08eldaradome50 Ай бұрын

@@ZOVFA да, Беткилию повезло

@СергейБрованов-ы9х Ай бұрын

@@ZOVFA Жох папай ...уродство руки врожденное.Правая в 2 раза меньше .

@Asfgjjgdtyuir Ай бұрын

Не каждый побеждает Олега Беткили красавчик

@Its_me_Nida Ай бұрын

Can any body explain oleg forearm is 15.7 inch and betkill forearm is 16.1 why oleg forearm looking huge??

@Шумковский Ай бұрын

Как же это всё долго происходит, уснуть можно.

@viga3117 Ай бұрын

Поэтому для таких случаев есть Ларратт😂, точно не уснешь

@Bntmssln Ай бұрын

@@viga3117 ну там вообще жесть, борьбу на час затягивает

@Sasquatchflow Ай бұрын

Good to see Oleg back!!

@golosSurala333 Ай бұрын

30:24 парень переводчик красава!) 3 языка минимум знает)

@AlexBakuradze Ай бұрын

Спасибо 😂💚

@flavioahmetlli2160 Ай бұрын

Travis: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN BETKILI OO NII AAA NIIIII

@joymukherjee2453 Ай бұрын

Zhokh is a living legend of his own, what an athlete and person he is, but man Betkili has to be one a kind to just cup Zhokh into a hook even without the straps and power through him. Man he is awesome.🎉

@РусланГалиахметов-ц1ь Ай бұрын

09:30 судья уже не выдержал, когда Олег 10 раз оторвал локоть😅

@hyperarm Ай бұрын

🤯🤯🤯WOW WOW WOW, armwrestling still surprises me year after year ! I am Betkili fan!

@willywonka2135 Ай бұрын

oleg will forever have the absolute freakiest forearms i've ever seen but i love it

@robschreffler7858 Ай бұрын

Betkili is a beast at 95kg. Super strong left. How is his right? Just as strong?

@user-zip356 Ай бұрын

Small country but how many strong men from Georgia

@joplanmeister Ай бұрын

Это из-за того что они Баранов тракают

@jangulisirbiladze5010 Ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤ yess strong is betkili 🎉🎉🎉 congrats bro ❤

@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke 21 күн бұрын

Oleg was on the track to be one of the best ever but got struck with tragedy. It's amazing how he managed to come back to this level when he was in a coma for weeks and broke his arm in multiple places after that lethal car crash.

@SovietUnionn Ай бұрын

Expected result in this higher weightclass but we just needed to see it. Well done Betkili and Oleg 👍

@r0binbad Ай бұрын

Раньше побеждал генетический деффект, дающий преимущество в силе, а теперь и он не помог. На правую там и рядом таких результатов нет как на левую. Беткили молодец.

@Dyrikooo77 Ай бұрын

Ти дурачек 🤔🤔🤔,человек после операции,еле востановилься

@РомаКаргин-й2б Ай бұрын

Походу ты за Жохом не наблюдал давно. Он был в Аварии Еле выжил. Руку разрезали всю, он востановился и снова на такой уровень.

@r0binbad Ай бұрын

@@РомаКаргин-й2б я в курсе про аварию в 18 году вроде, что там Пушкарь не выжил. Были там еще моменты спорные. Но о них не будем. Это во всех новостях тогда было. А вообще, не слежу за ним, борьба не нравится. Знакомые еще давно говорили, что рука у него дико неудобная при захвате. Повторюсь, Жох генетическую особенность использовал и использует против спортсменов без отклонений.

@РомаКаргин-й2б Ай бұрын

@@r0binbad Я лично его генетику не проверял. Много спортсменов с еще более большими руками по гинетике но таких результатов не достигли.

@r0binbad Ай бұрын

@@РомаКаргин-й2б если интересно, можно глянуть на его борьбу при весе 70-75 кг, как он боролся с кабанами из 100+ только на левой. В правую не лез. Там без докторской степени видно за счет чего он выигрывает :)

@ChristianKearns-jh2zq 16 күн бұрын

Nice to see him back after such hard times

@Khampha1506 Ай бұрын

I want to compete here. How can I participate?

@naturalbornswabian6947 Ай бұрын

Oniani is definitely not the guy you want for a pep talk. Still paying my respect, I didn't expect him to win. Gratz

@GinoNL Ай бұрын

I think these matches should always be atleast 7 rounds. It makes endurance more of a factor besides strength, technique and mentality.

@miketrillo8067 Ай бұрын

Extremely difficult to deal with that 18 lbs differential against an elite competitor in Oniani

@topirusnyu Ай бұрын

гарний спортсмен , здоров'я вистачає !!

@rleeboston33 Ай бұрын

Wow. Bet Betkili is a beast.

@andysouthardmusic Ай бұрын

How on earth was 9:28 not called??

@123Felixxx Ай бұрын

Молодец Олег,восстановился,снова в строю!

@ВасилийЖерко Ай бұрын

Красивая победа и достойное поведение!

@tashigyaltsen472 Ай бұрын

Zokh without mishap could be unbeatable left

@FrancoCT15 Ай бұрын

2:35 Oleg's Forearm at 15 inches? thats gotta be a mistake

@tayzee1245 Ай бұрын

That’s exactly what I was thinking. There is no way this other dudes forearm is bigger than Oleg’s.

@GIORGI-10-c7h Ай бұрын

გენაცვალე ჯიგარში🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪✊️✊️✊️☝️

@vitalichstalinn6391 Ай бұрын

Жаль Олега . Никак не восстановится после той трагедии. Олег давай не вешай нос ! Все будет!

@makc975 Ай бұрын

очень сомневаюсь что восстановится. прошло уже много лет а он до сих пор со слабаками в прошлом возится... не в обиду спортсменам. я про то что тогда они ему не представляли никакой угрозы а сейчас...

@BoSS_3228 Ай бұрын

@@makc975тогда и не было такой конкуренции как сейчас)Тот же Воевода был топ 1 как Циаленков а сейчас проигрывает всем так же как и Ципленков а Ларат за эти 20-25 лет стал только сильнее вот и думайте кто как тренируется😀

@Meat_rocket_1980 Ай бұрын

@@BoSS_3228мне кажется Воевода сменил приоритеты в жизни, арм отошел на второй-третий план. А Ларат все также болеет армом как и 20 лет назад))

@fabriziomanni6890 4 күн бұрын

Prime Oleg Zhokh would have destroyed this guy...

@webbjames4703 Ай бұрын

You should note that Oleg only 87kg against oniani 95kg and that's 8kg difference weight between them and give oniani a little advantage but oleg still retain 85kg world title left hand despite his Lost to oniani

@rustyshackleford735 Ай бұрын

It looks like Zhokh isn't as enduring as he once was, hopefully he comes back to his complete form and performance as he makes his comeback.

@aniruddha4119 Ай бұрын

Betkili my fave since 2020

@ThanhNguyen-bj6hu Ай бұрын

Moratoz vs laratt match happen in the future? 😢

@Lagia7 Ай бұрын

Who is Moratoz and why are you crying?

@ThanhNguyen-bj6hu Ай бұрын

@ I was wrong. It was Moratov. I cried because it was unlikely to happen.

@cratos900 Ай бұрын

Betkili Vs Alizhan for 105kg title in future is the fight to make

@kasra8304 Ай бұрын

Easy alizhan

@cratos900 Ай бұрын

@kasra8304 It won't be easy 4 rounds for anyone

@yerzhatleuk1053 Ай бұрын

Он уже побеждал его

@cratos900 Ай бұрын

@@yerzhatleuk1053 It was long long ago. Both of them are not the same pullers.

@yerzhatleuk1053 Ай бұрын

@@cratos900 против Алижана у него нету шанса

@Джонс-я8й Ай бұрын

Интересно, Олег на бицепс сколько поднимает?

@vovankesov Ай бұрын

Олег Жох джентельмен Oleg Zhokh gentleman

@modalize Ай бұрын

Oleg is getting stronger and stronger

@giorgigurjidze4207 Ай бұрын

win even from the Oleg's wrist, wow Betkili

@julianlaustsen1991 Ай бұрын

can some1 say why olegs fingers are crooked? looks like he has trouble gripping the hand because of it

@lasha9174 Ай бұрын

26:58 That is wild.. never seen anyone could do that with Zhokh's left MUTANT ARM :D :D :D

@TommyNitro 28 күн бұрын

@ 9:40 I'm no ref but I was wondering how many times they were going to let that elbow come off the pad.

@ҚАЗАҚСТАН20 Ай бұрын

Ониани красава ✊👍🇰🇿

@shaurya5324 Ай бұрын

Oleg reached his limit after round 1

@AlucarD51q1 Ай бұрын

Pless irakli zirakashvili vs georgia tautieva full fight

@DeanExplains Ай бұрын

Mismatch.

@tig79rover91 Ай бұрын

What I just witnessed! Oleg had no chance! Betkili is a superman

@adaada1939 Ай бұрын

Олег ти знову тут Бажаю тобі стати чемпіоном світу

@LEGENDZyo Ай бұрын

That dead wrist press has been kicking ass.

@Fedorpro Ай бұрын

Болел за Жоха ✊💪 та авария выбила из него все силы…

@_MJIe4Hblu_nyTb_ Ай бұрын

Я тоже за Олега болел, но трансляцию посмотреть не было возможности. Победа Ониани в таблице результатов была для меня шоком)

@niksan1094 Ай бұрын

И мозги🎉

@Eugene_Paradox Ай бұрын

@@niksan1094 твои явно

@envyzion8638 Ай бұрын

Add Rematch to the video title?

@GeorgianRaceCars Ай бұрын

საღოლ მაგარი ხარ ბეთქილ . წარმატებები უძლიერესი ხარ შენ წონაში

@erlan502 Ай бұрын

Монстр екен Базар жоқ!

@josteincarlsen2905 Ай бұрын

11:32 square shoulder’s ??? What is the rules? Crazy judging… 😮

@ТарасПодліпний Ай бұрын

Великих перемог тобі Олег.

@marcgrondin65 Ай бұрын

At 11:40 - you can see the shoulder was not flattened as Oleg's was. Perhaps his trick is looking away which might deter the refs from doing it. I'd like to see a rematch with different ones : i.e. Bart Wood ...etc.