Oliver Fender Fuel Tanks

[@kennethtoohill6367]

Hi Herman!!! I LOVE your tanks!!!

[@judithcoffing6326]

We had 1850 gas with fender tanks. It was a great addition to a tractor that sucked it's share of fuel to produce the HP. It did save many trips back home or using a portable fuel tank to keep it in the field. We had a fair amount of vapor lock with it in warm weather. Put an electric fuel pump on which helped. Great history lesson Chris. Hope you had a great 4th.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks! I hope you had a great day as well.

[@chrisandert3174]

I have always been a fan of the fender tanks. As a kid I always thought it made for a better seat riding with my dad. Our 1850 diesel has the dip sticks , ordered new with tractor. Enjoyed the video.

[@robertheinkel6225]

I think a lot of kids grew up sitting on Oliver Fenders.

[@waynebrown2546]

we put at set on our 1850 gasser when we had so much trouble with the vapor locks. talk about traction, 76 gallons on loaded tires!!!

[@kennethtoohill6367]

TANKS for the video! 🤪

[@tsitom3461]

Thanks!

[@peteschiavoni]

I always thought fender tanks were really cool. Thanks for explaining how they work and different styles.

[@Military-Museum-LP]

I’ve never seen these before. Another first thanks to Chris.

[@Murphyslawfarm]

G'day Chris great video. I learned a lot mate.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Hello Murphy! How are things going for you and the family?

[@bigun447]

You just touched on something that some farmers forgot to do. We had some who wanted to keep the weight on the rear wheels so they would fill the tanks and shut off the valves at the bottom. IF they forgot to switch a vented fender cap onto the main tank and put the non-vented main tank cap on the fender they had problems. Maybe the tractor would simply not be able to suck the fuel out of the non-vented main tank and stop running. The other thing that could and did happen was that the tractor would continue running, albeit is not well, and the farmer would suddenly see his fuel cap disappear down thru the hood. It was possible to get enough vacuum on the main tank to cause it to collapse. Just like when you were in school and the science teacher drew a vacuum on a metal gallon can and it would collapse.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I've heard about a few front tanks collapsing from someone not having the vent cap on the right tank. I've never seen one, but I have seen a couple that were puckered in just a bit.

[@bigun447]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris We had a 1955 tank shrivel up so much we could take it out of the straps without removing them. Most people do not realize that fuel pumps just create a low pressure on the suction side and the atmospheric pressure is what pushes the liquid to the pump, and good transfer/fuel pumps could create enough negative pressure to do the deed. Some old aircraft used the same principle of the fender fuel tanks to drain auxiliary tanks first and the main tank gauges would only start to show usage when the auxiliary tanks were empty. A simple method that did not require fancy fuel tank switches or auxiliary tank pumps. That is basically why cars and engines of old had hand pumps mounted that simply pressurized the fuel tanks. That was one of the jobs of the riding mechanic in race cars, pump the lever to maintain fuel pressure. Old sprint cars had glorified tire pumps, usually mounted on the outside of the cockpit, that the driver had to pump

[@randykrochak1185]

Our units, all had fender tanks. Worked good, could work for three days, never had to haul fuel. Out of three Cockshutt tractors, our 4WD 1850 had dipsticks in the tanks.

[@mischef18]

Enjoyed this bro. Safe travels

[@rosstheoliverman]

I just noticed- are those brand new dust plugs on Herman swinging in the breeze?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

They were ones I had on hand. I still need to order some more for other tractors.

[@stumpy2816]

Interesting 👍👍

[@dallasroberts7715]

Saw an 1850 for sale a couple years ago or so that had one fender tank and one regular fender. Thought someone did it themselves but heck maybe it was ordered that way!

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Could have been!

[@kylechrist]

Thank you Chris!

[@ryant9506]

I think that big Oliver's look so much better with those tanks

[@craigrasnic4178]

As always I learned something new from watching your video. Just so you know it drives me nuts every time I see your 1955 FWD I have the regular row crop but a FWD is definitely on my wish list

[@braapbros6112]

My grandfather has a 1755 cockshot with the single fuel fender

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Cool. Which side is it on?

[@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin]

Really a pretty cool setup. And it's older than me 👍😁👌

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Me too! I figure if they still work, then I should be able to as well.

[@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris there you go!!

[@rosstheoliverman]

Several years back, I saw a gas 1750 sell that had one fender tank and one regular tank. It was a strange looking thing set up that way, but no doubt a factory setup.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Cool. Do you recall if it was a left or right? My guess was they would go for the left side to keep weight on the land wheel for plowing.

[@rosstheoliverman]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris it was on the left. That’s what I figured was the reason as well, for plowing but I don’t know if there’s an official bulletin saying single fender tanks should go on the left? I’m guessing there was probably only a handful of people who wouldn’t spent the little extra and get a pair.

[@leightonfarms4962]

Thank you👍👍👍

[@brettlamont4965]

Oliver/white did have some great ideas like using the fenders for fuel. And they commanded the front wheel drive market.

[@Adam_Poirier]

I learn something new every video!

[@ryant9506]

And we have the dipstick on our el toro to

[@cesmith4566]

I just acquired a set of white fender tanks, there attached to a 2-105 good information thanks Chris

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I've got a set from a 2-105. I'd like to paint them up and put them on the 4-225, but I need to find or fab a set of mounting brackets.

[@jaycow3154]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris the guy I bought my white tanks from had brackets made for my tanks to put on his 4-210 i didn't get those he might still have them I didn't know if they would work for you

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@@jaycow3154 Yes, the 4-210 used the same rear end as the 4-225

[@stevewilcox4402]

Thanks. I always had questions about fender tanks.

[@ram_diesel_power6039]

I’m up in Maine. I bet those tanks would collect lots of moisture and freeze. -40 always brings out the best in things. 😹

[@jcchristopher7827]

My stepbrother is in Alaska and they said that they put a little bit of kerosene in the diesel and keep them about full -60 a little chilly

[@ram_diesel_power6039]

@@jcchristopher7827 well it’s more about the condensation turning to water and freezes I. All those fuel lines

[@jcchristopher7827]

@@ram_diesel_power6039 true but if there full and kerosene is added it is alot harder to freeze and and kerosene helps with starting some we have trouble out of the plastic and poly tanks condensation causes algae in cold weather but anything can freeze at -60 we left a third of fuel in the fenders and main was full but the fenders gelled up cause they didn't have enough fuel in them

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I forgot to mention there is a water drain on the front bottom of the tank.

[@ram_diesel_power6039]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris it’s all them little twisty turny fuel lines and fittings that water collects in. Still though it’s a nice tractor and all that extra fuel storage comes in handy

[@petepeeff5807]

Thanks for the info.I always wondered about the plumbing as mine were un hooked. A lot of years when my 1950 was the big horse I would fill them for extra ballast. For a winter project I may get 3 new caps and use 3/8 hydraulic hose to replace the hose. Sadly I ditched the original Y Oliver made from pipe fittings thinking that was some shade tree mechanics fix. Thanks to your video I can replicate it. Can you post the cap part numbers vented versus non vented .Great video as always.

[@briangrendzinski5411]

Wow!! I didn't know they made so many different ones 😹 I always wondered about the two caps on each fender tanks.🤠

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

Last time I saw these super fat tires they were weather checked and I thought maybe a person couldn't find new ones but these look pristine a year later.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Must be getting him stuck filled in all of the cracks.

[@paulpochan9631]

Thanks....!!!

[@jermynpedretti4761]

I wish I had known that info about 1 tank being an option sooner, I feel like I saw one for sale that only had one side and thought to myself it probably got messed up and swapped or something, now I wish I had inquired on the serial

[@leonardwinterhalt5461]

I like the different shade of green compared to the competition grew up with the cshutt equipment our 1850 had the fender tanks unfortunately that tractor got in fire we had a shop burn I still remember the 1850 started up when it was on fire

[@humefarms210]

Are you going to be at the HPOCA Summer Show in Oakley Michigan August 19-22?. We plan on going. By the way, I bought a White LT 12 lawn mower for $100.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Yep, we're planning on going. Nice buy, are you going to bring it to the show?

[@humefarms210]

I'm thinking about trying to stuff it in the back of the truck.

[@TonyM132]

It looks like those tank fenders are only slightly adjustable for width, like they can't be moved on the axle, just with those small slots. Can they be adjusted in to accommodate 60" tread width for 30" rows? And can they be compatible with the ROPS/canopies which have become popular on tractors from those years?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

There's a fair amount of adjustability between the slots on the tanks and the different holes on the axle. They can be used with the ROPS canopy, but you won't be able to get the tires in enough for 30 inch rows. Even without the ROPS, I think it would hard to get it to work on 30s.

[@aaronkaraszewski2749]

I really like the way fender tanks look on tractors 1750 and up. We have 3sets one of witch is going on the 1850 I am redoing now. Two if the three sets have the dipsticks on them. I know that they both came off of 1850 gas tractors. I had heard that fender tanks originated from the 1850 gas tractors. I do nt know if thats true or not.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

To the best of my knowledge, they became available for all models at the same time.

[@JH-qi7fz]

Fuel fender tanks are awesome!

[@paulbrandanger9049]

My 1850 has dip sticks

[@66Oliver]

They’re a great set of fenders. Personally, they’re my second favorite in styling. I’ve got a pair off of a ‘67 1950 I want to put on our 4-115. Oddly enough, mine don’t have the dipstick.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

The majoity don't. This is the only set I've personally seen.

[@kolewiebensohn]

My friend just bought a 1850 gas with only the left tank being a fender fuel tank. It's supposedly factory

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

It could have been. I'm not sure why they would not get the other tank while they are at it, but it was an option.

[@TonyM132]

If the diesel tractors used just suction for fuel delivery to the main tank, then I assume once one fender tank ran empty you could not get remaining fuel out of the other tank, since it would just suck air... right? And that leads to the question: What causes fuel to be suctioned from both tanks at equal rates? I would think one would end up running empty well before the other just because of slightly less resistance to flow on one side from any number of factors (which would then lead to the problem of not being able to get the rest of the fuel from the other tank...). Am I missing something here?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

The 2 fenders T together. Gravity takes care of them coming down equally. If you fill just one fender tank, gravity will even the 2 tanks out, even while the tractor is running.

[@TonyM132]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris Oh, that is a different story, if gravity works in its favor instead of against it, not just suction. I'll have to look at one in person. It looked to me in the video like that T-connection was well above the bottom of the fender tanks. If I'm thinking about it right, I guess the lower the T is mounted, the better it should work. Thanks for the answer. Since you were nice to answer that one, I'll ask another in a new comment...

[@dylanhockaday9878]

I love the look of them wish there were more Oliver’s around me have u ever saw a set on a 1550 gas

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I've never seen fender tanks on a 1550. I'm hoping someone watching has.

[@66Oliver]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris I’ve seen one on a 1650, but just once.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@@66Oliver Do you remember if it was a left or a right?

[@66Oliver]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris Both

[@kylemcleod4806]

We have a 1650 Oliver with just one fender tank and one regular. How rare is a original continental Oliver cab?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I think they are getting rare, as most are coming off and getting scrapped .

[@donovanvolk8583]

I had a Wabco loader with that type of fuel dipstick and I used it to prime the fuel pump with a air fitting and A guage and put about 4 PSI. Cracked a fuel line and she took off

[@michaelfreehling1914]

Thanks Chris. Ever see someone put them on a 550? I do some contract mowing and could run all day if I could haul more fuel

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I've never seen that. I wouldn't think the operator would be able to see over them to each side. It would be neat to see someone fabricate a scaled down set to fit the 550.

[@ram_diesel_power6039]

Are they more apt to crack due to vibration and their shape.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I've never experienced vibration cracking. The base that they sit in is very heavy, and the tanks are mounted on rubber isolators.

[@juststuffwithwolfe4482]

I didn’t knew tank fenders existed

[@ghenry85]

So I you have to fill the fender tanks and main tank independently? Very no nonsense design. The new JD 8rx tractors(they have 4 independent track systems instead on wheels) can have "fender tanks" but they are for liquid fertilizer and the sort. Good video.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Yep, Each tank gets filled independently.

[@danw6014]

I wonder how bad those fender tanks are about being leaky on a tractor in average condition after 50 to 60 years.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Surely there are some bad ones out there, but I've never had a set give me trouble. They don't have a water trap, so any moisture that had condensed would end up in the main tank where it's water trap would catch it. The right one on this tractor does have a leak, but that's from someone putting the wrong bolt in the mount. It was too long and pierced the tank.

[@redironacres]

They’re the best looking fenders ever put on a tractor in my opinion

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I like them too. I don't see why some people don't like them, but to each their own.

[@robertheinkel6225]

I always thought they looked good.

[@jaycow3154]

We've got a1850 gas with the fender tanks filled them up and set selector valve for main tank the extra weight and loaded tires it was good on the plow just bought a set of white fender tanks for a 2-150 cab rough want to make open station

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Cool!

[@snowman5609]

Never thought much of Oliver tractors or white or minneapolis Moline they were always a littel odd that probably why they didn't last

[@GMdieselman]

Nice try there bud, ain’t nobody taking that troll bait