Olivier Messiaen - Apparition de l'église éternelle

[@greggibson2594]

"The Messy One", as a composer, was such a synthesis of musical vision and spirituality. This is one of several of his pieces I have found to be a worship experience in and of itself. The Dieu Parmi Nous, The Celestial Banquet, this piece. . . all of them move me to tears from the sheer beauty, peace and power brought forth. I feel as if I'm getting a peek at the Kingdom to come. The struggles of this life and world are laid bare as well. Messiaen does that to me, and I thank God for him.

[@vendelisoperaomnia]

Greg Gibson perfect synthesis. love your words about him. He is also such an inspirator to me, an amateur composer.

[@AirchimeLTDproductions174]

100 agreed! :)

[@robertelder300]

The first time I heard this, I was transported beyond this world and glimpsed the edge of Eternity itself. That was a CD of "Glorious Pipes" played on my Yamaha bookshelf stereo- I can't even imagine what this would sound like on a live organ!

[@GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY]

Moving, extraordinary. I will play this during Easter service, for my lutheran community (Turin). Deep gratitude to the Lord of lords and to Olivier Messiaen for this prodigy.

[@milotic92]

+Gianluca Cagnani Ciao, quando e dove?

[@GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY]

Apocatastasi Domenica di Pasqua, 27 Marzo, santuario francescano s. Antonio di Padova (noi luterani siamo gentilmente ospitati dai frati) ore 18.45... ci conosciamo? Sei di Torino?

[@milotic92]

Non credo. No ma sono a Torino, sono di Cagliari. Ma è quello vicino a Vinzaglio?

[@kyotokid4]

...Messiaen is an absolute visionary. Being a synthesist, the first time I heard this this work it conjured up incredible visions.

[@wormswithteeth]

Tell us what you saw?

[@tothemoonalice100]

First time I heard this was a performance by the organist of Washington Cathedral. Absolutely blew me away. And I was really fortunate to meet the composer and his wife Yvonne Loriod in Pasadena in 1972.

[@mvk-cg5vh]

This is certainly the most awe-inspiring organ music I've ever come across. Heard it 'live' only once, in a cathedral in Berlin many years ago. My favourite piece of Messiaen next to Louange à l'Eternité de Jésus from the Quatuor pour la fin du Temps.

[@benjamincs1]

How wonderful - those are my favourite two pieces too...

[@dumspirospero-s1l]

Cette musique est vraiment tombée du Ciel ! Inutile d'en dire plus, elle se suffit à elle même.

[@MegaCirse]

Cette musique n'est pas tombée du ciel. Elle est inspirée par un homme farci de doutes et d'incertitudes que seul soutenait la puissance de sa foi qui prit naissance lors de son incarcération dans un camp de concentration à Görlitz !

[@xavier659]

Cette musique a été composée en 1932, autrement dit 7 ans avant l'existence même du camp que vous mentionnez. Je pense que notre ami Régis voulait tout simplement dire que l'inspiration de Messiaen était divine... elle n'est pas pas tombée du ciel, bien sûr, mais disons qu'il a été bien inspiré. Vous ne croyez pas?

[@MegaCirse]

@@xavier659 Oui, je le crois !........... D'essence divine sa musique ténébreuse a été perçue comme lugubre et inspirée par le diable lui-même par nombre de "grenouilles de bénitiers" Je voulais parler du "Quatuor pour la fin du Temps" ;;;;;;;;;;;;;; :-)

[@kyotokid4]

..you are very fortunate. I was scheduled to meet with him in summer of 1992, but he passed on that spring. He has been my mentor as a composer. I have his "Technique de mon langage musical" which I find very inspirational.

[@barryfuell515]

Heard this played 'live' in Bury St. Edmunds Cathedral yesterday by the Director of Music James Thomas and was completely 'blown away.' Marvellous piece.

[@PolkRidgeAesthete]

Admirable beyond expression.

[@euthman]

Perfect! This is what I'll play as I sign up for Medicare.

[@franckranaivo666]

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[@sathya999]

This is played by Dragan on a "virtual" organ. Sound samples are taken from each pipe of the real organ and played through a computer...the system is Hauptwerk and the organ is Notre-Dame de Metz. A very nice performance, like with all of Dragan's videos!

[@LuxAeterna36]

Absolutely incredible... :) I was able to hear Monsieur Michael Matthes play this (along with many other wonderful selections) in Birmingham, Alabama at St. Paul's cathedral. He did an outstanding job and this has been a favorite piece of mine since.

[@russedav5]

Messian himself performed this with a time of 10:17; most moderns are in such a rush they take this far too quickly, as if in a fast food restaurant with no time for l'Église Éternelle!

[@annakimborahpa]

Perhaps instead of the "Vision of the Eternal Church" most moderns in a fast food restaurant are savoring a 'vision of the eternal cheeseburger.' And instead of "The Celestial Banquet" might they be partaking of a 'celestial bag lunch' at their workplace?

[@mrSymphonic]

A great honor!

[@mrSymphonic]

@GMagoy : Have you heard Latry's performance of it at Notre-Dame de Paris? (the video by erikheijkamp)? It's absolutely stunning.

[@MrJulien68]

I did! And it's mental! the C Major climax chords are absolutely blasting on the Notre Dame organ. Almost screaming!

[@aussiemale059]

​@@MrJulien68 Mr. Latrys version absolutely not only screams with ear fillling power, its the second best to the version at st ouen

[@richardk.fitzgerald8354]

Wonderful comment, Greg Gibson.

[@markcooke729]

Stunning! I remember hearing this at Tewkesbury Abbey on the newly rebuilt Grove organ back in the 80's and it was just sensational. Where was this recorded?

[@johnstag1391]

Holy, holy, holy!

[@johnstag1391]

Strefanasha Indeed!

[@gerardbedecarter]

Beautiful.

[@danielcurtomusica]

What a mind in this person!! Why doesnt come out works loke this? Why today is all usefull? Why this works are not often?

[@growlinghuel9766]

Daniel Curto ha ha, good point!

[@GMagoy]

Really powerful, like it very much. Although the last too minutes linger a bit too much and are a little too sad for my taste, but that's just my opinion. The first 5 mins are stunning though.

[@fredvacher3998]

I agree with you. But I think this end has its "raison d'etre" : Jesus hasn t come back yet so the end of the music is just down to earth and sad. We still have to toil our everyday way until we can see this in real and it will be even more beautiful! Messiaen's last orchestral work is named "lightnings from beyond" and it s exactly what it is (in fact "éclairs sur l au dela" means "flashes of the beyond" but it means nearly the same, doesn t it?). It s very lengthy (11 movements as far I can remember) but it s worth listening. A sort of musical prophecy of what is to be lived beyond!? 😊💕 J. S. Bach is also very good as a Christian musician, and W. A. Mozart too.... Merry Christmas to you!

[@kyotokid4]

...nice performance.

[@Skoogorganist]

Very, very nice!

[@MegaCirse]

Je suis fasciné par la personnalité de l'individu. Au siècle précédent, il n'a jamais douté dans un monde où tout portait à croire qu'il s'effondrerait sur lui-même! Tout son travail est comme la première lumière du crépuscule. C'était de son vivant le reproche qu'on lui faisait. Sa musique, sous des aspects sombres et diabolique, a été entièrement composée à la gloire du Christ, et il en a beaucoup souffert ;-(

[@johnstag1391]

If I grasp your meaning correctly, holiness or perfect goodness is not easy to encounter, to describe, let alone live with.

[@MegaCirse]

@@johnstag1391 Oui, mais il faut se replonger dans le contexte de l'époque où il a créé ses "oeuvres pour orgue". Beaucoup de chrétiens traditionnels et pratiquants en france lui reprochaient de "cacher le Diable dans son instrument" et même lorsque la célébrité et la reconnaissance le touchèrent, cela l'affecta et le fit douter au-delà de sa croyance au Tout puissant et à "la Sainte Trinité" mais ne le découragea pas pour autant.. Ses dernières architectures sonores "Turangalila" et "de l'Au-delà" en témoignent puissamment. Pour lui, les églises n'étaient que des monuments friables et les vitraux d'admirables vénérations colorées à la gloire de dieu.. Seule comptait l'Eucharistie au trois-quarts d'une messe, lorsque le prêtre levait l'hostie et le calice, singeant Jésus dans la Cène ; tout le reste n'était rien !!

[@omahas9000]

I agree with Greg Gibson!!

[@tropicjam7343]

Is that Dragan Trajer 's playing?

[@zamarioijean4736]

Cette œuvre a-t-elle été enregistrée à l'orgue de l'église de la Trinité à Paris dont Olivier Messiaen a été le titulaire durant une cinquantaine d'années et dont il s'est toujours contenté ?

[@wormswithteeth]

You met Messiaen?M my god! What was he like? :)

[@2bjjones]

Trop belle

[@birdandthe]

great stuff, but i believe thirys 1974 version surpasses all, problem is ive only got on cassette from lp and its as clear as mud whether its available on cd.

[@zamarioijean4736]

Cette œuvre a été enregistrée sur quel orgue, SVP ?

[@sanicyouth6540]

Great!

[@johnstag1391]

Yes, quite, the numinosum, the "dread"-ful is not easily conveyed in English.

[@mrSymphonic]

I am.

[@russedav5]

I'd suggest that "Apparition de l'église éternelle" is better translated "Vision of the Church Eternal" than "Apparition of the Eternal Church" since in English 1. "Apparition" carries a negative, ghastly dimension inappropriate for the Church Eternal, likely not present in Messiaen's meaning and 2. I see in Church Eternal a greater emphasis than in Eternal Church.

[@birdandthe]

whos the organist ?

[@ricktomlinson5481]

Messiaen !!

[@chronochromie772]

Dragan Trajer. NOT Messiaen.

[@brigidvandermoezel7814]

@@chronochromie772 hello there

[@annie1543]

Dans ce monde gavé de technologie, on a besoin d'un peu de spiritualité, et cette musique en est une des plus belles formes .

[@hal9999lah]

快哉

[@Gguy061]

Very horror movie vibes

[@andrenewcomb3708]

Organs are noise in the churches of the carnal where Mary claims all the credit and men advocate her daytime drama.

[@rotunda57]

wat???!