Nouvelle Orchestre Philarmonique_Gilbert Amy, conductor
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@rembeadgc4 жыл бұрын
Now, who didn't think "Psycho" at 0:10? I saw the knife coming down!
@merriman5311 жыл бұрын
One of Xenakis's greatest works.
@goatlps4 жыл бұрын
Oh dear then.
@pawdaw4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. The violence of the language, the dizzying overlay of meters, the textural density - nothing like it.
@merriman534 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know which pieces you refer to as "quiet stuff", and I don't agree that there's anything "bombastic" about "Jonchaies". There are two amazing works for piano and orchestra that you might like: "Synaphai" and "Keqrops"... But why not just listen to everything of his that's on KZbin?
@alexg75547 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning, both the composition and this recording of it. Fairly accessible piece as far as Xenakis goes. This man was the epitomy of modern. Daring, inventive, and just bloody fascinating.
@gerryweil86562 жыл бұрын
Xenakis tiene " Cojones" ! Su obra es emocionante y toca partes ocultas de mi ser ! Gerry Weil
@66AUD68 жыл бұрын
I feel blessed to reach a point in which I can listen to this with pleasure. I don't get why people are so compelled to compare music in terms of better/worse, true/bullshit...and let the discussion end there. I love pop music, and experimental. Sure, I don't find every music as pleasing as another, and I find some more shallow than others, but then I just agree with myself that I either have yet to understand what is being transmitted under the surface, or I just don't socially connect to it yet. So, I think connection to a music is relative (dependent on our individual history). But the thing about relativity is that we can influence the point from which we experience something once we become aware of it. And why close ourselves off to that possibility, as artists? Music may be relative, but it's also universally necessary. Which means to me that there is always some potential connection.
@lexmedved8 жыл бұрын
i like this too, but i keep hearing the rite of spring. kinda like you can never avoid that bo didly riff.
@alexreik4248 жыл бұрын
........madman....justify this bo didly riff idiotic bullshit
@mirandac87127 жыл бұрын
Very well said! I feel the same way. I have never understood personal claims on art. To hear the melody finally emerge out of the gray mass about a minute into the piece is such a gift. The inadvertent (?) Bartok quote at 1:59. Xenakis was a clever, clever man -- as well as being totally serious.
@66AUD67 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have gotten that Bartok reference. I have horrible recall when it comes to linking names and titles.
@66AUD67 жыл бұрын
what riff?
@kokokuvat53107 жыл бұрын
Good background score for the "Mary Poppins" movie.
@e.conboy42865 жыл бұрын
Or ‘Psycho’. it sounds like music for the unreal, don’t you think?
@drale754 жыл бұрын
:D
@calculatrguy2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@calculatrguy2 жыл бұрын
One night I played it to me girl and now me girls me wife
@jacksonbriggs86269 жыл бұрын
this came up in my spotify playlist and i thought satan hacked my phone
@anaccount82288 жыл бұрын
+Tiago Morais Morgado wot?
@wattd66028 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see an above-average number of intelligent comments to this piece. Mr. Briggs, If you haven't learned to read, you can call a printed page an ugly bunch of scribbles. I'm not calling you, or anyone with negative opinions, stupid or illiterate. This is music you have to work at appreciating, learning its associated history, its technique, etc. Art is not the same as entertainment. Good art is not always comforting or beautiful... even if modern culture reducing everything to profit and consumption believes it is.
@DeanWang112358 жыл бұрын
xkcd.com/915/
@jacksonbriggs86268 жыл бұрын
Watt deFalk well, Mr deFalk, I am actually a musician myself. and I good one at it. I have taken multiple years of music theory, made the Georgia Allstate orchestra 3 years in a row now. So I know how to read, both music and "ugly bunches of scribbles" . Obviously music is taken in many different ways depending on the perspective. I'm in orchestra so I know about violins, and the way they "run" up the fingerboard to that high note, it sounded satanic . my reasons have evidence
@wattd66028 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying, Mr. Briggs. I hope you realize I wasn't calling you illiterate. I was making an analogy: to an illiterate person, writing looks like meaningless scribbles. I'm glad to know you're a dedicated music student. Of course everyone has personal tastes, but to dismiss unfamiliar music as "sounding Satanic" is not worthy of you. Do you regard everyone who enjoys studying and performing such music Satanists too? Unfortunately we have a presidential candidate and many other public figures who proudly proclaim their ignorance. I hope you're not following his example.
@4piecechickenmcnuggets Жыл бұрын
IDK HOW DID I GET HERE BUT IT IS HAUNTINGLY BEAUTIFUL
@brancepethbob9 жыл бұрын
there's an elemental quality about much of xenakis' best work which makes for a very visceral listening experience. this is very fine!
@DavidGuion19487 жыл бұрын
I took part in a performance of Eonta when I was in graduate school--and hated it and everything else I heard by Xenakis at the time. I found this video on Reddit. Someone called Xenakis his favorite composer, so I decided I had to give it a listen. I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying it. We had a world-famous avant grade pianist for Eonta, and the page turner said he wasn't even trying to play the notes as written, just the gestures. So we brass players decided to do the same. Is this piece impossible to play as written, too?
@johnatwell27535 жыл бұрын
Nope it isn't impossible. Just *very* challenging. Eonta is a great piece, but sincerity is KEY. That's what Xenakis said, anyway. You don't need the score to figure out when the pianist is not playing the music right. On the other hand, a few wrong notes doesn't erase the "pattern" that Xenakis sets up (like Herma, he used set theory to compose this piano part.. read that somewhere... and knowing how to listen to Herma, I can enjoy Eonta that much more). Xenakis' craft is audible. It's meant to be heard.
@fryingwiththeantidote24867 жыл бұрын
Honestly who would have thought a fucking architect/mathematician could directly apply his field knowledge to music and make something so amazing. This piece is proof that anything is possible. it's like he designed a building out of my thoughts
@kokokuvat53107 жыл бұрын
Remind me not to move into your thoughts.
@MF-dz1gi7 жыл бұрын
So many mathematicians are musicians though.
@wattd66025 жыл бұрын
"Music IS math. Anything in music that is not math is a bow tie... or big hair and torn jeans if you're mentally guitar-ded. (And even a bow tie is mathematically structured.)" - Reverend Watt deFalk
@fryingwiththeantidote24865 жыл бұрын
@@kokokuvat5310 my thoughts are pretty good so long as you have heroin for the depression.
@srogamina5 жыл бұрын
Discovering grooves in Xenakis' music. This is priceless.
@Ibiracatu6 жыл бұрын
Xenakis is one of the Geniuses of this genre.
@udol.46124 жыл бұрын
To heare this in Hamburg, Elbphilharmonie... was a shattering emotion!! I was sitted near a real colleague of him ....talk friendly to her... a very intellectual, serious und friedly woman. I synchronizised my breath totally to the music ... eyes closed... get deeep into the music, the rhythm... intensity... and cry for a long, long time ------ cause of the deep sadness of this music. Peoples beneath me ask me, if a feel right... ... Yes! I feel right! I have a bit understand the excessive power und cruelty of this music. It seems like a natural event! without advance warning.... not a nice concert event. Xenaxis hearing is for shocks, , disturbations, and tears.... THX for this extraordinary music!
@carlospacini77658 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Deep. Strong.
@Bashkii7 жыл бұрын
I think it is great terror music for film scoring!!! It even begins with the Psycho shower theme! Bravo!!
@beckoning-chasm7 жыл бұрын
I like the graphic you've chosen to accompany this. Somehow it fits very well.
@Maldoror5007 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece! Great interpretation too! - Xenakis offers an universe for those who are interested in having ears to listen.
@user-cp5ky2gt5s7 жыл бұрын
I love this piece so much
@spyros2nov7912 жыл бұрын
Jonchaies can be translated as rushes, reeds or strewn branches. According to the Iannis Xenakis official site the title has no botanical allusions but refers to the structure of the piece and its densely interwoven polyphony which fluctuates like rushes spread out upon the ground.
@alexgabriel54233 жыл бұрын
Thank You for clip and explanations. There s a presentation on Xenakis as a Demiurge on KZbin. He studied Pythagoras and designed a house using Pythagorean ratios..Brancusi studied Plato and sculpted the Eternal Forms...as though a Spirit is there in Greece and Ancient Thrace. Xenakis was born in Braila, Romania. His parents took him to Greece later....the Myth of Er is another curious work of Xenakis...Orpheus and heroes of the Illiad appear in this story by Plato.
@pinkasarp2250 Жыл бұрын
known as STUF in his birthplace
@johnatwell27535 жыл бұрын
I take it back, *Jonchaies* is definitely a balls-out uncompromising piece of music!
@Squidward_Tikiland9 жыл бұрын
its like, a different theory. like sweet consonance, but more natural. like roots of sound. the sound is alive!
@jorgegarzaelli62386 жыл бұрын
Un universo sónico nuevo? Tan antiguo como el mismo sonido, pero actualizado con notable profundidad. Gracias desde R. Argentina.
@starlodear29872 жыл бұрын
You could fill an entire horror movie with this piece. Excellent!
@MSchultheis Жыл бұрын
Really great, Xenakis' music is still so refreshing after some decades, and that's probably always the case when someone really thinks their stuff through and goes all in!
@Marchawc4 жыл бұрын
I shared this to my Facebook a couple of weeks ago. I described it as "a brutal, 15-minute, drunken orgy in sound and rhythm"; I love the shear power and drive of this piece!
@dreamlast-oc7vfАй бұрын
😍 Masterpiece
@michaelberridge193411 жыл бұрын
This is the second performance of this that I have listened to this evening, and I must say that this is a super recording. It must be a nightmare to record all of the thunderous features, and with this one I hear details that are not clear in other recordings. Thanks for the upload! BRAVO!!!
@liakara26682 жыл бұрын
listening to iannis music is like solving a mathematical riddle
@MrRegnskur13 жыл бұрын
So simple and powerful! It clears my brain out) I don't know why, but His music gives kinda feeling of concentration.
@e.g.1218 Жыл бұрын
I rather feel like a cat fully engaged with its environment when I listen, like there is some extra stimulus within this music.
@giovannismartini4799 жыл бұрын
Jean-Ferry Rebel to Iannis Xenakis !!!
@noriemeha2 жыл бұрын
Was at Prom 19 and heard the BBC Symph (augmented to well over 100 players) do this. I still haven't recovered two days later. Still trying to rebuild my old ideas on music after it. This will remain a high point in music experience for the rest of my life.
@blakedegraw79584 жыл бұрын
I love how prolific Xenakis was. He's been my favorite for years, and I'm still discovering new pieces by him all the time (well, new to me). Never even heard of this piece prior to today, and it's an absolute masterpiece! WTF?
@goatlps4 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece? LOL. Any idiot can spew out loads of 'music' (this is not actually music) if the notes require no logical progression.
@blakedegraw79584 жыл бұрын
The chief difference between artists and idiots: artists do things, while idiots speculate about what idiots could have done.
@zachguo63724 жыл бұрын
Goatlips the notes require no logical progression? this is literally the opposite of no logical progression, it’s done through math xd
@carlosluis1970 Жыл бұрын
i'm really addicted to xenakis music.... dont want any one to help me.... :)
@alejandrosotomartin9720 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work.
@alejandrosotomartin9720 Жыл бұрын
That mastodontic crescendo reminds me a bit of the one that Thomas Adès later composed in the third movement of Asyla. An authentic ecstasy of rhythm.
@heehee26264 жыл бұрын
This makes me so anxious in good way I love it
@NEGYESEK12 жыл бұрын
Bartók is alive....good music...powerful
@andromediane3 жыл бұрын
Never heard this before...so interesting! Would have been a fun piece to play as French horn. This song makes you feel so uncomfortable, I love it.
@spyros2nov7913 жыл бұрын
@MegaDocalex It has the violence and beauty of a natural force... Thank you for visiting.
@FUNKINETIK2 жыл бұрын
@3:50 that is some dark deep techno. Just discovered Xenakis via a documentary about Bob Moog.
@juanpeirotti9 жыл бұрын
0:30 sounds like the movie "UNDER THE SKIN"'s ost
@andrut9 жыл бұрын
+PoLLásQuE Thank you! I was wondering where I heard that before. I knew I liked it, probably a movie and not Xenakis, but just could connect the dots.
@MikelGCinema8 жыл бұрын
+PoLLásQuE I am sure Mica Levy was inspired by it.
@juanpeirotti8 жыл бұрын
+Kino Cineasta "inspired"
@MikelGCinema8 жыл бұрын
+PoLLásQuE No. Inspired.
@00Dakka8 жыл бұрын
bit late, but that theme is actually a heavily processed sample of britney spear's 'toxic' lol
@michaelberridge193411 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these interesting details.
@grahamepinnell3672 жыл бұрын
To me, this is the audio rendition of Picasso's 'Guernica'. It also works to evoke the invasion of Ukraine - especially the screech of the 'harpies' of war progressing to the columns of tanks and the grad and howitzer volleys.
@calibansss4 жыл бұрын
Try playing Xenakis's music at twice normal speed - it becomes much more musical. No I am not kidding. Played at that speed, this piece becomes quite amazing after (approximately) the seven minute mark. More emotional potency. (And less listening time.)
@sueward53087 жыл бұрын
This just came up on my Spotify, too .. I love it! Nice comment on the Satan hack, though! :)
@didierschein71985 жыл бұрын
Very interesting music. It's sounds like romanian contemporary music, like Aurel Stroe, for exemple.
@gerardbegni28065 жыл бұрын
The orchestral scores by Xenakis are quite unknown., if we except the stochastic scores for large string orzechestra of his beginnings. It is a pity, since they were written in the sevond half if not athre end of his musical career. He has a lot of musical experiments in gis mind, knows precisely what he can wait or not from rach of them, and attempts to apply allof them to the orchestral colors, if not creating new stylistic idioms to take these colors into account. So, they are both experienced and exploratory works, which are quite exciting ro explore. .
@onoskelis8462 Жыл бұрын
i love this beaut
@gerardbegni28067 жыл бұрын
Jonchaies is probably the best known (even if poorly known) pieces for orchestra of Xenakis.
@kraka2oanIner Жыл бұрын
This gave me goose bumps. It also "loosened" (for lack of a better term) my brain. An exquisite environment was created; marvelous.
@emmanuellecurtil70692 жыл бұрын
hello yannis where are you , thou shall know that your spirit touched my soul for ever god bless you ..............................................(^///^)😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤
@mavronic19037 жыл бұрын
Powerfully and sensitively effective
@fernandopalomar32797 жыл бұрын
No pos una riata, el piche Xenakis.
@romualdlenclen29164 жыл бұрын
Me I love kayak de mer and Michaud s dessins, quoique ça dépend du courant.
@joethelionjoethelion8 ай бұрын
Unfathomable !
@buttclef11 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with how you feel about this music.
@silviopastorini62 жыл бұрын
Ogni musica "contemporanea" ha sempre faticato per imporsi.
@xeraph024 жыл бұрын
So good.
@VOLKHVORONOVICH5 жыл бұрын
Very strange. And a strange offering to come up on the "Up Next," after Bax's Tintagel. But that's all right. Different, but I think it's quite good. Never heard of this composer before. So thank you, KZbin algorithm.
@finosuilleabhain77812 жыл бұрын
That's no doubt because Xenakis was known to be a great admirer of Bax, 'Tintagel' in particular. (Just kidding.)
@luisbernabe65947 жыл бұрын
me cagué de miedo
@krugagitana10 жыл бұрын
grandiose
@miguelnistalrodriguez61518 жыл бұрын
ENORME!
@chicojcf4 жыл бұрын
109 Musicians!!
@mostafabinali71095 жыл бұрын
it's weird but i like it
@moshekotzin7232 жыл бұрын
this is just like john luther adams become river
@felipejferreira116 жыл бұрын
Panta Rhei!
@clairelenoir7 жыл бұрын
en fait c'est beau ...
@ericc19024 жыл бұрын
We stan
@Protonixum7 жыл бұрын
EX-CEL-LENT !
@thegodieinafire11 жыл бұрын
what percussion instruments are being used in this piece?
@OpenendsProductions12 жыл бұрын
thnx great.yeah. like it.:)
@sannhetiblodet28132 жыл бұрын
I tried to click on the link given to find out more about the image on the video and couldn’t get it to respond. What is the name of this image and who created it?
@slab_bulkhead_5 жыл бұрын
A particularly tonal interpretation
@fernandav90886 жыл бұрын
Frozen brought me here
@paullangford31317 жыл бұрын
Intense
@captainbeastazoid70847 жыл бұрын
That picture is so cool. Anyone know where it's from...?
@jacquesguiod45106 жыл бұрын
I heard the wind in the reeds
@watermanOIT7 жыл бұрын
Who is the photographer?
@starlodear29872 жыл бұрын
How do you even start rehearsing this piece?
@lasmluclasm37814 жыл бұрын
where da orescuzzla bruvva i need ta see da orescay mayte
@spyros2nov7912 жыл бұрын
I really liked your comment...
@Cosmicprog20129 жыл бұрын
A selfconcentration camp - or a bonfire for our automations.
@a.whatfish82177 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what the title 'Jonchaies' means?
@derferneklang44736 жыл бұрын
A. Whatfish Hi - I think, the english word is „reed“ (german „Schilf“) Greetings from Austria!
@zamarioijean473629 күн бұрын
Why 109 musicians ?
@lightyagami1058 Жыл бұрын
7:18 Steve Reich lawl. Or polyrhythm 🤔.
@Combinebobnt7 жыл бұрын
dank
@SantiagoQuinto6 жыл бұрын
Beethoven en el siglo XX.
@djeronimo79813 жыл бұрын
l entrée ressemble a psychose avec norman bates , des aspects flippants de l oeuvre de xenakis tant attirent tantôt répugnent ,,
@luisbdo654 жыл бұрын
Psychosis theme...the whole version.
@artoffugue3337 жыл бұрын
η βαθμολογία; επιτρέψτε μου να έχουν το σκορ!
@Instrybutor947 жыл бұрын
3:50 4x4
@DimaKats24 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the name Jonchaies means?
@munnpaul4 жыл бұрын
French for "rushes." Other connotations possible.
@cesars80908 жыл бұрын
this is true music, not like the easy and stupid music of the news pop artist
@IepsyI7 жыл бұрын
everything has it's place. the significance of one shouldn't diminish something that doesn't attempt to occupy the same corner of the universe.
@celestealfaro64037 жыл бұрын
trueee
@TheBoinaman16 жыл бұрын
In my understanding, this "noise" music is as stupid as the easy and commercial pop you criticize. The only difference is that it is much more complex and pretentious. Both leaves me equally indifferent.
@romanmakarevych44832 жыл бұрын
1,5/10 points, you failed your sarcasm test, try again kiddo
@MegaDocalex13 жыл бұрын
This music freeze me....
@aaronsmyth79435 жыл бұрын
Was this tune in The Shining?
@oceanmachine19064 жыл бұрын
No that was Penderecki
@progrockplaylists Жыл бұрын
prog
@guardsdepot7 жыл бұрын
I heard a few wrong notes in there..................................................................