French composer/organist Olivier Messiaen (1909-1992) improvises at the organ of the Paris Church of the Sainte-Trinité (Holy Trinity), where he was organist for more than six decades (since 1931).
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@urbulibaba Жыл бұрын
Imagine just casually walking into a church and there's Messiaen improvising away at his organ!!
@mWahlgren11 жыл бұрын
"Baptized at Trinity in 1957, I have all the Sundays of my childhood heard Olivier Messiaen improvising at Sunday mass. At the end of the Mass, everyone went out to the pastry (!), But my father forbade us to stand up as the Master had not finished playing. Olivier Messiaen's music has become like a "second language" tome. It's wonderful to see here him here improvise"
@TheSunship7774 жыл бұрын
Lucky! I would never want to leave the church building.
@gardikagigih57044 жыл бұрын
what a great story!
@BodilessVoice4 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest musicians of our time, deep and ingenious and boundlessly inventive. . .how I envy you for getting to hear him play live every Sunday!
@MahavishnuProject3 жыл бұрын
Your father raised you well.
@EdiDrums3 жыл бұрын
(The above is the English translation of a comment made by Guillaume Deslandres in 2012, to be found lower down in this comments section. ("Baptisé à La Trinité en 1957, j'ai tous les dimanches de mon enfance entendu Olivier Messiaen improviser à la messe dominicale. A la fin de la messe, tout le monde sortait pour aller à la pâtisserie (!), mais mon père nous interdisait de nous lever tant que le Maître n'avait pas fini de jouer. La musique d'Olivier Messiaen est ainsi devenu comme une 'seconde langue maternelle' pour moi. C'est magnifique de le voir ici improviser." )
@GuillaumeDeslandres12 жыл бұрын
Baptisé à La Trinité en 1957, j'ai tous les dimanches de mon enfance entendu Olivier Messiaen improviser à la messe dominicale. A la fin de la messe, tout le monde sortait pour aller à la pâtisserie (!), mais mon père nous interdisait de nous lever tant que le Maître n'avait pas fini de jouer. La musique d'Olivier Messiaen est ainsi devenu comme une "seconde langue maternelle "pour moi. C'est magnifique de le voir ici improviser...
@lebonmunsterdalsace Жыл бұрын
Quelle chance... je n'étais pas né quand il est mort...
@francoisasselin418310 ай бұрын
Merci pour ce témoignage !
@mondeva12 жыл бұрын
Great!!! We cannot even imagine how good Bach was when improvising at organ, but luckily we have some samples like this one about Messiaen for future generations .
@PointyTailofSatan Жыл бұрын
The Ricercare a 3 from Bach's Musical Offering is supposed to be an almost exact copy of Bach's improvisation on the King's theme, and that Bach performed in front of the King himself.
@jimtownsend80103 жыл бұрын
I never understood this in previous years,,, and that was with over 15 years of playing Messiaen's piano works under my belt. Then I recently had a dream. I dreamt that I was hired by an imaginary church in Paris, and to reach the organ, you had to climb story after story of stairs, and there on the top was the organ bench. The sense of height was terrifying. Then in the dream I was hired by a local Methodist WV church, but still the organ seemed so high and so lofty. Oh, you dropped an atomic bomb? Still, you dont know the power of having a large church's organ at your fingertips. Height and the sense of height were major themes. And now after this dream I feel this in the music. A sense of aliveness, a sense of height. The feeling you get just when your car starts to veer of the road, or right when your swivel back chair starts to lean backward. A sense of aliveness. Amazing music from one of the worlds greatest musicians. I hope to have another dream just like that tonight...
@hexagonalawareness35843 жыл бұрын
Did you?
@jimtownsend80102 жыл бұрын
@@hexagonalawareness3584 No, But ive had like 3 offers to play at various local churches! While im busy at the moment, I hope to land one soon!
@hexagonalawareness35842 жыл бұрын
@@jimtownsend8010 Well, I'll continue to have the good dreams for you; I have crazy dreams. When you play at the church, remember to not screw up.
@Bati_2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear Messiaen's music, I remember this quote by Albert Einstein: "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed.”
@BioHeinrich8 жыл бұрын
One of the best music videos on KZbin!
@noiselesspatient Жыл бұрын
And all based on pre-existing plainchant melodies, and consequently the texts, feast days and theology that goes with them. The implications of this are significant.
@timothytikker11477 жыл бұрын
I studied organ with Messiaen's friend Jean Langlais in Paris in 1984, and while I was there I heard Messiaen do similar improvisations a La Trinité church on Christmas Eve and Christmas morning -- very close to the time this video was made.
@timothytikker11477 жыл бұрын
He improvised on this "Puer Natus est Nobis" Gregorian chant theme in the lessons and carols service at 11:00 PM on Christmas Eve that served as the prelude to Christmas Midnight Mass. That improvisation had definite similarities to the "Puer Natus" movement of his composition _Livre du Saint Sacrement_, which he was writing at that time.
@charleskennedy10997 жыл бұрын
I notice that in the second movement of this improvisation, he makes use of a particular chord progression (heard on the Voix Humaine) that also appears in "Les Mages" from La Nativité du Seigneur.
@charlesleyes8706 жыл бұрын
Lucky you. How wonderful.
@dr.brianjudedelimaphd7435 жыл бұрын
Timothy Tikker you have been touched by the hands of God
@robcmstephens4 жыл бұрын
That is seriously cool! French 20thC for me has got to be the most creative and special period - varied, but all linked together by (in my opinion) a 'Frenchness'- hard to define, but very special. Messiaen and Langlais !
@sicartista848610 жыл бұрын
Hmmm....the 20th century maestro, alone on his organ console. Pure happiness, to play the organ in a dark, empty church, with nobody listening. Just you..and the instrument. Splendid composer. Thanks for uploading.
@seanmoliver7 жыл бұрын
Messiaen's music - especially his organ work - brings me to tears every time.
@christianblaha367 жыл бұрын
Gregorian chant forms the base of his inspiration in improvisation.
@BodilessVoice4 жыл бұрын
Yes. His knowledge of music history and composition was encyclopedic!
@luizamsalgado5 ай бұрын
A Real Treasure ! Great Messiaen gifting us us with his wonderful music recorded superbly. Many thanks for the this wonder! @mWahlgren coment here is superb and a precious contribuition for your wonderful post ! ❤❤❤
@baldrbraa4 жыл бұрын
Weightlessness in harmony and timelessness in rhythm. To Messiaen these were positive qualities. Spirit and eternity.
@Bati_2 жыл бұрын
Did he state this? Where can I find the source?
@baldrbraa2 жыл бұрын
@@Bati_ I’m just summing up what seems to me elements of his philosophy. He uses symmetry of intervals when building up harmony, more so than tonal tension. He uses symmetrical rhythmic structures, serial structures, and extremes of tempo to suspend the sense of forward-moving time.
@Bati_2 жыл бұрын
@@baldrbraa Thank you for the clarification. I should read more about Messiaen!
@MahlayStudios8 жыл бұрын
9:31 Those flourishing passages just send shivers down my spine.. The genius of Messiaen is inestimable..
@oscargill4232 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the chromatic scale. Genius. To be fair, it is very effectively used.
@organ4447 жыл бұрын
Messaien's words translated: 'Then to the shepherds in the fields appeared a hoard of angels singing "Glory to God in the highest!" ... The Wise Men saw the Star of Christ in the Orient and journeyed toward Nazareth. ... And the Wise Men offered gifts to Mary and the baby Jesus: Gold for a king, incense for a god and myrrh for a mortal man.'
@williamlewis43187 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I speak French, but not so much I know that!
@markjosephlandingin72747 жыл бұрын
Matthew Breen
@organ4444 жыл бұрын
@@williamlewis4318 no problem. I won't for a moment pretend to be fluent, I had to rewind the video a couple of times until I caught every word!
@ericnk588 жыл бұрын
Incredible and so filled with power and feeling. It is music that speaks directly to the soul.
@1401JSC8 жыл бұрын
+Eric Koenig How do you know that? How does one know how a soul functions?
@ericnk588 жыл бұрын
+1401JSC I did not say I knew. What may be truth to me may not be to you. Taste is 100% subjective. Have a good day!
@watermelon520b8 жыл бұрын
+1401JSC Because it changes it.
@leoflanagan66068 жыл бұрын
I think therefore I am, body and soul
@crazyorganist16096 жыл бұрын
Eric Koenig I agree. God runs through all of Messiaen's music. I love all his music
@Nooticus Жыл бұрын
This is unbelievable. Its like I'm in a different world. How have I never seen this video before.
@foodiste11 жыл бұрын
Clearly, his belief was his muse. Its what inspired his music.
@ulfingvar18 жыл бұрын
That has GOT to be the most perfect musical instrument of them all: the BIG church organ. In one body it carries all the power and "umfang" of the full orchestra, the rock band and the full choir. And with some almost electronic tonalities to complete it.
@josephhutchison19832 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! The organ is the ultimate!
@josephhutchison19832 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@tous7798 Жыл бұрын
Grand dieu, du Messiaen tout craché. Magnifique ! Je ne sais pas combien il y a d'heures d'improvisations enregistrées, mais il serait bon de les publier largement
@mikhailnohr4 ай бұрын
Olivier was pure Christian, pure genius, pure Musician & pure great Composer! Requestat in pacem, dear Olivier. I really love you organ music... You show us all the Power of Greatest God Father & His Son & Holy Spirit! And this... uncredible Thank you! Greatest...
@ThomasMurphy5511 жыл бұрын
I am going to see the great Jean-Yves Thibaudet accompany the Seattle Symphony playing Messiaen's great Turangalila Symphony tonight! I'm pretty thrilled: not only is Thibaudet a terrific musician (I strongly suggest that you check out his interpretation of Debussy's Images for piano), but he is considered an especially fine interpreter of the works of Messiaen, as well. T. has recorded the Symphony under the tutelage of the great Yvonne Moriot, Messiaen's wife.
@BodilessVoice4 жыл бұрын
Lucky you!
@columbamccann53674 жыл бұрын
Sincerity foremost, as he says in his commentories. No empty display here. Extraordinary thematic concision especially in the middle movement.
@cdssmac11 жыл бұрын
Olivier Messiaen-the Chuck Norris of the organ! He absolutely blows me away and is my all-time favourite composer.
@charlesleyes8704 жыл бұрын
An unusual comparison, I must say.
@m1391393 жыл бұрын
"Dieu Parmi Nous" is my favorite Messiaen piece.
@Y0PPS3 жыл бұрын
BLOWN away by the organ?? Aren't we all.
@andrewlarson6033 жыл бұрын
I consider Tournemire and Messiaen to be the TWO GREATEST COMPOSERS who ever lived!!!!
@Dovith2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣please excuse my dirty mind but I can see some funny double meaning 😂🤣🤣
@firesong75 Жыл бұрын
I never understood Messiaen until I heard and played the organ at La Trinité. The sonorities and true Adagio were enhanced by that acoustic. I can just imagine him at night trying out the sounds he had written, experimenting with what sounded good and what did not. My teacher, Mildred Andrews, insisted I memorize some of the larger works which I did as a good student, but I never imagined the sounds Messiaen heard. I have a much better appreciation of his music now than I ever did as a student.
@Alix777.7 ай бұрын
11:43 what an heavenly music...
@kyotokid413 жыл бұрын
...Messiaen is truth in music In`the summer of 1992 I had st up a meeting with M. Messiaen. Before my trip he passed on. That day my boss gave me the the day off (with pay) because she knew how much that meeting with him meant to me.
@BodilessVoice4 жыл бұрын
May God bless your boss!
@maestrodanielepasini6 жыл бұрын
Messiaen è uno dei più grandi musicisti della storia della musica
@MrJazzharmonie15 жыл бұрын
Merveilleux chrétien , habité par l'Esprit Saint ...les tres nombreuses images de tuyaux en dehors d'être esthétiques ne nous disent peu ...alors que son visage ses mains ses pieds ...parlent et nous enseignent ....et quand il parle ce qu'il dit est ressenti .
@rikwensink35264 жыл бұрын
Breathtaking to watch and listen to this. Definitely one of the most valuable music posting on KZbin.
@karlisaacjohnson59863 жыл бұрын
I can definitely see many many things which became Livre du Sant-Sacrement in this improvisation.
@sssnacksss3 жыл бұрын
awesome to see OM ripping up on the organ at Holy Trinity. killer dude on an amazing instrument. got chills at 17:03. this and recordings of Jung speaking get me amped that i can go straight to the source when i want my fill of european visionary maniacs from the 20th ce
@AllAmericanFE11 жыл бұрын
I just can't get enough of this video. It's rare to find a good video of my favorite Organ composer.
@Deelystaniel11 жыл бұрын
This is beyond awesome. I was only recently turned on to Messiaen. Better late than never.
@russedav53 жыл бұрын
It would be a real blessing if those who know French might be willing to translate Messiaen's comments for those of us who don't. Thanks.
@Anorectic.Bumblebee Жыл бұрын
yes!
@DH-cv8bo6 ай бұрын
0:19 : The shepherds in the fields watch a group of angels appear singing: “Gloria in Excelcis Deo”. 7:29 : and the wise men had seen the star announcing Christ in the Orient, and had set out towards Nazareth. 15:27 : and the wise men presented gifts to Mary and the infant Jesu: gold for the king, incense for God, and myrrh for the mortal man.
@m139139 Жыл бұрын
I love to listen to Messiaen's music- It's innovative and NOT DERIVATIVE!
@sealevelbear4 жыл бұрын
This is why I am alive, thank you!
@Musique357911 жыл бұрын
What a absolutely sensational video. Thrilling!
@gwalaus6 жыл бұрын
I sang in a choir at a Mass which Messiaen attended in the late 1980s in Melbourne, Australia. I don't believe he was quite as impressed as I am with this!
@Raed9118 жыл бұрын
I'm a rookie listener/fan of classical music (avant-garde and chamber music specifically), yet happy that I'm learning to appreciate such emotional moments and awes upon listening. That's why in my humble opinion, one should appreciate the genius of the likes of Frank Zappa, King Crimson, Gentle Giant...etc. whose anti-generic music leads a rock n' roll connoisseur into this land of charm and horizon width. Thanks for such a great upload.
@jonkrueger90678 жыл бұрын
+Zeppelin911 Great music can be found in all genres.
@bernab7 жыл бұрын
Frank Zappa had more difficult time with Messiaen but at the end he appreciated it and he even said he was one of his favorite composers. King Crimson, I think through Stravinsky and Bartok had a little bit of Messiaen, namely the mode 1 and 2, and I think also through the Mahavishnu Orchestra.
@richardwilliamjohnson85666 жыл бұрын
Jon Krueger *most (imo)
@royverges59256 жыл бұрын
If you're going to mention Progressive Rock in the context of Messaien, then by all means listen to Henry Cow.
@jorgeisaacgonzalezprieto6590 Жыл бұрын
Exelente material, gracias por compartir.
@michaelschantz67087 жыл бұрын
Messiaen's own "Modes of Limited Transposition" are prominently featured in the Finale of this work. A genius with his own personal language.
@RattaRoller9 жыл бұрын
Olivier Messiaen was a great organ composer. I see power, in his pieces. I like La Résurrection du Christ, and Transports de joie d'une âme devant la gloire du Christ qui est la sienne.
@BodilessVoice4 жыл бұрын
His "Quartet for the End of Time" is required listening.
@GerrlichStudios4 жыл бұрын
His tone language is suposed to be unique. Every chord, every phrase we was playing infects our imagination.
@RoboticsBay6 жыл бұрын
He knew like no other organist to use constantly his instrument at full power.
@juanmaMCMLXXXII13 жыл бұрын
Este vídeo es una de las cosas por las que merece la pena tener internet.
@alexisdanielvaneskeheian21278 жыл бұрын
¡Maravilloso! Muchas gracias.
@HxhXnin9e12 жыл бұрын
Messiaen's wonderful!
@charlesdavis70878 жыл бұрын
Messiaen is a thaumaturgist of sound. His "music" intensionally transcend the earthly gravity of words. Silence now speaks. CVD
@MegaCirse7 жыл бұрын
Really I adore, I add : All great ideas inspired, music, films, philosophy, inventions, revelations all come from the collective unconscious. Very often artists use the inspiration from outside, deductive logic, the extrapolation of evidence and reasoning known to unveil the sumptuous and magnificent righteousness of a sound architecture such as this one. It is a truth that is spontaneously revealed to us or that with time we have to verify by ourselves in order to know if such and such a composer can change our minds and our existences.......... Thanks for reading me !
@BodilessVoice4 жыл бұрын
Correct
@BodilessVoice4 жыл бұрын
Yea, and Amén.
@StephenAR Жыл бұрын
@@MegaCirse That is the heart of it! Yet how few interface let alone connect with the collective unconscious to become conduits for its transcendental expression! Here’s a tough question - why do any at all become such conduits and how? Forgive my stumbling tongue - it’s hard to speak precisely about such things and avoid sounding like some new age mystic 😆👍
@davidmcmurray99332 жыл бұрын
He composed remarkable piano and orchestra works, too.
@swirls99912 жыл бұрын
A genuine genius at work! This is astonishing!
@GerrlichStudios4 жыл бұрын
His music brings us to places beyond our poor imagination.
@BodilessVoice4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TheMysticalOrgan12 жыл бұрын
It's still quite a lot and growing fast. What's really sad is that Messiaen's friend and mentor Tournemire is so neglected. I've uploaded ALL of L'Orgue Mystique and, four months on, it's still barely got 10,000 views across the whole thing...
@roberthoffhines5419 Жыл бұрын
Some don't get Messiaen, and I can understand them. But it's a shame as the are missing some of the most jaw-dropping powerful and then the most tender music ever dreamed. All suffused with the light of The Spirit.
@katharinetaylor6988 Жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see a true improvisation without a battalion of registrants to help out!!
@katharinetaylor6988 Жыл бұрын
This amazing!
@MrJazzharmonie16 жыл бұрын
Merci au Maître de la musique ...merci la France pour donner de tels talents au monde
11 жыл бұрын
La grande école Française d'improvisation!
@gla95012 жыл бұрын
Olivier Messiaen en chair et en os, avec sa voix... Je n'aurais pas rêvé mieux :')
@michaelsearle145811 жыл бұрын
great!! Thanks.
@charlesleyes8706 жыл бұрын
Messiaen was for years at L'eglise Trinite. It fascinates me that during those years so many major organists were full time at some church with a fine organ: St. Clotilde, St. Eustache, St. Sulpice, La Madeleine, Notre Dame (of course), St. Augustin, okay, where else? Help me. Ahh, St. Etienne du Mont. What a great time to be in Paris for organ lovers.
@BodilessVoice4 жыл бұрын
Fuck me. That is awesome.
@charlesleyes8704 жыл бұрын
@@BodilessVoice Not a response I was expecting.
@charlesleyes8703 жыл бұрын
@@BodilessVoice There might be a better way to say that.
@BodilessVoice3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesleyes870 Without a doubt
@jodikirsh Жыл бұрын
I'm not Christian, but Messiaen always makes me wish I was.
Too see Messiaen speaking and improvising!!! I consider him along with Charles Tournemire to be the two GREATEST composers who ever lived!!!’
@originaltommy2 жыл бұрын
And Vierne!!!
@DRORELIMELECH120V2 жыл бұрын
MAGNIFICENT
@gjmhjm17 жыл бұрын
Superbe!
@yunikhaean73173 жыл бұрын
Waouh... Merci.
@DavidEzequielPerez11 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@maxcohen138 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@simonbarrowuk7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely remarkable and inspiring to watch and to listen to.
@legatus10005 жыл бұрын
GREAT!!!
@johnstag13912 жыл бұрын
Revisited with pleasure.
@Bati_8 жыл бұрын
One man orchestra.
@harrylime793810 жыл бұрын
GRACIAS
@joelane600611 жыл бұрын
Heck, even God told me He likes to listen to Messiaen!
@wolfgangsomary300910 жыл бұрын
Poetry beyond words, paintings in tone colours, breath of life.
@123must10 жыл бұрын
Thanks : beautiful !
@alterI48 ай бұрын
This guy is really good. I always picture modern composers not being so good at Playing actual instruments like the greats did, but this guy is really improving some intricate stuff. Fascinating how his brain processes music. Its like he knows exactly where he wants his dissonances and where to put them, like writing chromaticism in real time which seems impossible to me without rehearsal.
@kempedkemp8 ай бұрын
He has been playing with these themes and sounds for years. Believe me when I tell you, there were thousands of hours of rehearsal and tweaking!
@yoga.ma.genova85917 ай бұрын
“This guy is good“ - you sound like someone who had never heard of Messiaen till now.
@markbra3 жыл бұрын
I am definitely not ready for this !
@twittymilk631 Жыл бұрын
Hypnotizing
@kimweonill6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing history.
@bubffm9 жыл бұрын
What a find. Many thanks!
@charlesleyes8704 жыл бұрын
He seems to be man of great humility too.
@herbertsaxbaerlocher71176 жыл бұрын
impressionant!
@ssmith974510 жыл бұрын
At about the 26-minute mark we get a blurry glimpse of what M. Messiaen has on the music rack in front of him. It appears to be the Puer Nobis chant in rather decorative-looking neumatic notation. Was this possibly his own calligraphy? Or is there a published edition that looks like this?
@oonabenally14472 ай бұрын
This section at 11:40 is so beautiful.
@meinkomponist21039 жыл бұрын
It's like hearing Bach playing his organ
@fryingwiththeantidote24867 жыл бұрын
MeinKomponist Bach would shit his pants listening to this.
@wids6 жыл бұрын
Could you show me something that discusses this? Not disagreeing just curious.
@strahnbrad39796 жыл бұрын
20th century composers < master race Classical composers < peasants
@fryingwiththeantidote24865 жыл бұрын
quality test two very different ways of playing the instrument. Bach captured all that was possible to capture with the tools he had. He brought together all of the best techniques and ideals of his tradition together and breathed fresh life into them. The word of god as he could best express. Messiaen looked far ahead, trying to capture all that was impossible. Intoxicated by the lush overtone implications of Debussy, he sought sounds that our temperament systems could not do proper justice. He looked to deal with chaos and complexity and find meaning within a world torn by war and nihilism. Both did what needed to be done and both had ideas that are necessary for our future. But messiaens are closer to our time. Bachs time is very far in the past. music is a mirror reflecting ourselves, our deepest reality. take care to observe what you see in your reflection.
@michaelm59265 жыл бұрын
Bachs music will be heard and played in thousands of years again and again. These french, cacophonic style of shitting music out of decadent assholes will die very soon. Play shit like Messiaen in an organ concert and most of the people will leave the church… believe me :-) I've seen it even in big cathedral concerts… Messiaen is an arrogant dilettante. He confounds spiritualism with smoking in an opium cavern…."Musicians" who studied with Messiaen will truly get out even the last catholics of their church by playing and improvising like their "master". You just have to look in parish churches during usual sunday masses ;-)
@7OrionBelt73 жыл бұрын
His thoughtful use of the timbres or tonal pallette of the instrment is impressive!! He definitely knows the instrument!! Beyond that he is a philosopher as one may hear. Just masterful!!
@EinSofVirtuoso8 жыл бұрын
When I hear Messiaen, I feel the frightening yet awesome power of the Lord. Sure one can analyze his works musicologically in terms of timbres, atonality, and etc. But this is music of the unexpected, profound not in the sense of Arvo Part or Rachmaninov but as a simulacrum of the divine through sound in its terrifying (perhaps to ears insensitive to serialism and modern classical music) glory.
@renoiswellmetis56298 жыл бұрын
+EinSofVirtuoso Please don't diminish Messiaen's music with you supertitions. Yes, his music is powerful, but it's just that. Just because he was religious, doesn't make his music religious. There is no such thing as religious music. Enjoy the music for what it is, not for what it is represented to be.
@EinSofVirtuoso8 жыл бұрын
+Renois Wellmetis Are you serious? I can see your point with this improvisation but with respect to many of his works, especially his Meditations on the Mystery of the Holy Trinity, his explanations and interpretation of the pieces say otherwise. To reduce his music as just "powerful" makes him no better than Xenakis, Boulez, and Stockhausen (who also became quite the mystic himself after encountering Sri Aurobindo in the 70s). I'll enjoy the music represented by the composer himself and not taken out of its context.
@renoiswellmetis56298 жыл бұрын
+Ethan Pearson Indeed there is no secular music. These categorizations are part of humans trying to justify why they create art. Which of course is not bad in itself. Every human being needs a justification in order to do something. Art, when created, is a means to an end rather than an end itself. But the end result is always the same. Music is sound. Nothing more. Take Varese for example. His music is not written in order to praise God as was the case in Renaissance, Baroque and Classicism, nor in order to to praise himself as was the case in Romanticism. It is then written for its own sake. Sounds themselves exist and interact with each, they come and go in time. In the end all I'm saying is, art and music especially seem to have such an important impact on us because it imitates nature. In other words, it exists for itself. It has got rid from its back the burden of meaning. Like nature. Nature is meaningless. That's why we find it beautiful. Those 2 things offer us a moment where we can get out of our ego and experience reality for what it is, not for what we wish it to be. In the end though, there is no right or wrong way to listen to music. As there is no wrong way at looking at a tree. But maybe we should strive at looking at the tree for what it is, not what it represents. Cheers
@EinSofVirtuoso8 жыл бұрын
+Renois Wellmetis To that end it appears 4'33" is the most profound piece ever composed.
@renoiswellmetis56298 жыл бұрын
+EinSofVirtuoso YES!!! The example of 4'33'' certainly aims at that! Whether it's the most profound way of expressing this notion, of course is a matter of personal opinion. I believe though that Cage would have responded to your statement with something like: But I didn't compose it. It has always been there all along! Since you mention Cage, he also uses justification to create art. His justification is non-intention. Which of course is intentional itself. That is the paradox with Cage's music that makes his philosophy so beautiful. He seeks self-abolishment from the process of composition but fails because art is creation. Art cannot exist without its creator. No matter what the intention. Isn't it a lovely contradiction? Have you listened to Morton Feldman? If you haven't, please do, especially his later music. He seeks the same end with Cage with the difference that he hasn't given up control to the process completely. He floats somewhere in between!
@andreacosta749 жыл бұрын
Master of the light! At 11.45 there is one of the beautiful things ever written in music. I want the scores. There are transcriptions of these improvisations?
@BioHeinrich8 жыл бұрын
+Dante Casora Yeah! That passage is out of this world. Music of the stars, pure wisdom. Improvisation at its best, as if channeling a higher truth, right there caught in the moment :)
@Caracter1234512 жыл бұрын
je vous envie pour cette magnifique experience.
@rudigerfrank6306 Жыл бұрын
The part at 10'00'' reminds me on some kind of alarm signal. :-D Interesting, to see Olivier Messiaen imrovise!
@saturdaysinsilesia12 жыл бұрын
glorious
@janoleszkowicz16328 жыл бұрын
Olivier Messiaen c'est mon Professeur
@saltag8 жыл бұрын
That's incredible...
@williamlewis43187 жыл бұрын
Wow he is your teacher? That is incredible! C'est super!
@TheRunner757 жыл бұрын
Du Paradis je suppose car il est mort en 1992... ;-)
@janoleszkowicz16327 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have studied under Him in 1977 - 1979.
@TheRunner757 жыл бұрын
OK... He WAS your teacher... Congratulations! He was a top Master :-)
@eleidal12 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this!!!
@transfast11 жыл бұрын
Que tu as eu de la chance! Le Maître etait la pure voix de la musique pour orgue, transfiguree en un corps humain...
@violinchicklet12 жыл бұрын
How utterly superb! A true genius.
@Sathrandur7 жыл бұрын
Second part sounds (perhaps not at all surprisingly) very similar to the end of 'Puer Nobis' from his Livre du Saint-Sacrament (compare with the Jennifer Bate recording done on this same organ). But the improvisation is much easier on my ears than his composed works.
@andeshpandesh9 жыл бұрын
1. Les bergers dans les champs voient apparaître une troupe d'Anges qui chantent "Gloria in excelsis Deo”. 2. Et les Mages avaient vu l'Etoile du Christ en Orient et se sont mis en route vers Nazareth. 3. Et les Mages offrirent un présent à Marie et à l'Enfant Jésus de l'or comme un Roi, de l'Encens comme un Dieu, et de la myre comme un homme mortel.