Ollie Johnston: The Third of Walt's Nine Old Men

[@KeeksSnoogie79]

I think his approach is my favorite of them all, cause what makes animation so unique is showing the feelings and emotions of the characters to feel the moment they're in. When Mowgli tries to wake up Baloo after the fight with Sher Kahn it really resonates w/ me as an adult still it was heartwarming that entire segment. Well done video, this deserves more likes and attention what a remarkable man, I'm learning animation and have been glued to the illusion of life for days now.

[@disfarers]

It's such an amazing book, right? It's so awesome to hear about someone else appreciating. Ollie Johnston was such an inspiration to so many animators. I feel so terrible about it, but I don't recall if I actually saw him in person or it was a video I saw when I was very young, but I recalled seeing an old animator when I was a kid and I saw his hand shaking and I thought that he must draw left handed. And I was so surprised when he sat down to draw with his right hand! And the drawing was absolutely flawless. My mind was completely blown. Again, I was much younger and I can't recall if this happened in reality or on a screen, but I guess it doesn't really matter, the lasting impression he had on me has stayed with me decades later. Ollie was a great man and incredible artist.

[@Tonabillity]

Am I the only one in tears by the end? 🥲

[@sebabaran]

Great video! Keep doing them!

[@disfarers]

I'm so glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!

[@lukerupp2654]

Really enjoyed this!!

[@disfarers]

I'm so glad! Thank you so much for watching!

[@MsDisneylandlover]

I left to find the cartoon it is called Reason and Emotions. So pretty much it is inside out before inside out lol.. But with Adults

[@disfarers]

Yeah, it's a good short piece made with very little money.

[@MsDisneylandlover]

Rip all ❤pray they all knew the lord❤.

[@bradleybergeron1740]

Very much a fan of the clip usage in this one! Everything felt buttery smooth and on-point! Question, where do you go for most of your research on what parts of the films animators like Johnston did? Biographies? Disney make it available online?

[@disfarers]

I had to piece it together from different sources, animation sites, disney released info from the 80s and 90s. After going through enough content I started to actually feel comfortable enough picking out his work. Milt Kahl's as well. I still have a tough time picking out Frank Thomas though. But no, Disney has never put out a comprehensive list of who animated what. They only stated that such and such animator worked on such and such film or short.

[@bradleybergeron1740]

@@disfarers Thank you! Pretty involved for a vid like this, but I think it makes the video so much better being able to SEE what they animated specifically! I'm surprised Disney has never put out anything specific themselves, but at least those sources exist for ya! Video might've been longer, but it's basically THE comprehensive history on this guy at this point in video form! Awesome job!

[@nguyetanhnguyen8991]

please continue to do videos on the other old men!

[@disfarers]

I absolutely intend to! Thanks so much for watching. I have another of the Walt's Nine Old Men episodes coming out mid-December. My longest episode yet actually, full of amazing fun info!

[@MsDisneylandlover]

I love Alice in Wonderland. Especially the actress who they portray as the model. Oh Goodness how dare they don't like her..lol.

[@disfarers]

LOL

[@MsDisneylandlover]

Especially that tar baby part 😮

[@disfarers]

oof. I know. I hope to make an episode about how that project's script went so off the rails. It was a mess of a situation.

[@GlampReview]

To me the true Art of Animation is the classics that are truly drawn with ink and paint. The style of that animation is far better in my opinion than the new computer animation. The new is still good it’s just like you said it all blends together not setting itself apart. Almost like they are all from the same world. The classics all had their certain individual flare, not matching one another. The amount of work these guys put into the art was amazing! I would like to know how many hours it took to make some of these feature films and shorts they worked on. Question: So keyframes I assume are frames our eyes focus on the most and then in-between frames where the movements from keyframe to keyframe? So, I guess the main artist did the keyframes then they got someone like Tim Burton to do those in-between frames? I’m curious of this. I really apricate your story telling and style. Really enjoying Walt’s Nine Old Men series! Another good one my friend!

[@disfarers]

Keyframes are frames where the action is the most extreme. The number of in-between frames dictates the timing of the actions (set by the keyframe animator). With just the keyframes you can get a sense of the entire animation with the need for in-between frames. However, the in-between frames make the animation look smooth. A lot of this will be covered in the Fourth of Walt's Nine. A person's eyes don't pick up on keyframes. In fact, in extreme animated movements, the bones will go completely beyond what would seem reasonable, but when viewed as an animation as a whole it somehow works and makes for great movement. I hope I'm making sense. I'm on three hours sleep today from working on the next episode. I appreciate your watching and commenting. I watched 75 percent of your episode from Thursday but I just haven't been watching my television in the mornings like usual this week. But I enjoyed what I've seen so far. I'll be sure to comment soon.

[@GlampReview]

@@disfarers thats good info! Wow! Do you have a background in animation or just learned doing these documentaries? Really love learning about Disney history I’m looking forward to making more beach videos those seem to be hot, pun intended! Most of our subscribers came from part 1 and 5. Just dropped a new video that one will give you some entertainment!

[@disfarers]

I just saw that you had a new episode up and I still haven't even finished the last. I'm so behind. I'm not surprised the beach episodes are doing so well. There are places across the country that are dealing with cold weather that it must be nice to watch the sand, waves and sunshine. I have a four year degree in animation, but only worked as a web animator for a handful of years right after college. That's why I'm more proficient in the animation stuff. Initially, I didn't even think about covering attractions and rides, but I just went where my interests expanded. If I want to learn more about a Disney ride, place or what have you, I just make an episode and dive into everything about the subject. What makes you cover certain places you go to?

[@GlampReview]

@@disfarers Pretty cool, I always wanted to do something in the entertainment business with art or video production. I sort of missed my calling and now I’m tinkering with KZbin trying to make a name, LOL. I love that there is a platform like this! My day job has nothing to do with the entertainment business. Tonya and I have a “super small” side video business where I actually claim as my job since that where my heart is.. Really my love of all Disney is for that mentioned there, the entertainment and art aspect of it all. Anyways to answer - what makes me cover certain places...? Not sure yet, I currently picked places that I feel is interesting, that I think others will respond to. First, I love camping and my first intention was not to make videos or KZbin about it, but it did come to me after a few trips and getting ideas on other videos. My channel is still in diapers right now so I’m sure I’ll change my angle as I figure stuff out. This year we have a variety planned and I’ll see what is most interesting to others. I also like the idea of covering hidden campgrounds that you don’t see much on that has great reviews, 411 river rest was an experiment to see how that may fare. In the end what I’m truly after is to have a huge following that just enjoys our journeys in camping and reviewing the places we go and help other new and old campers choose wise places to spend their time and money on, or where not to. Like I mentioned I love to entertain, I have made videos since I was 9 years old. I always love giving joy to others through my video work. Ultimately, I am eligible to retire with a full pension in 6 years and I plan on doing this in my retirement and traveling the country RV camping, reviewing, and bringing fun entertainment to all. On another note: Did you happen to have a bad channel week last week like me? I got a message Wednesday that said views for Tuesday was underreported. Sunday before, for example, I got 1,300 views on just Camp Gulf part 5 alone! At one point it showed 130 views an hour for that one video. The whole channel got more than 3,000 views and a gain of 33 subs on Sunday the 18th! A lot for me! I never experienced I felt like I was going viral! LOL! Then, Tuesday the 29th it flatlined, went to 60 views for all videos for the whole day! Did not get any subs from Mon-Thursday until I got 3 subs Thurs night from the 411 video. Then this past weekend after that I only gained 4! What in the world YT?? Worst Fri-Sun I have had since Dec when I had no content. Then Tuesday this week I final got 7 subs and Wednesday I got 5 subs, which again is a lot for me, and I call good days. So bizarre, you ever experience anything like that? Should we just email back and forth? LOL.

[@disfarers]

I can relate to not always understanding how things work on youTube. I think of them as always controlling the floodgates. Sometimes they open and sometimes they shut closed. I've heard of other content creators that are literally a thousand times larger than us explain that if they stop posting episodes for as long as a week they see their channel come to a complete standstill. However, with a monthly channel like mine, I typically see the same traffic, more or less week in and week out. That doesn't mean I don't see the floodgates suddenly open wide and I suddenly get thousands of views from out of nowhere. It doesn't completely make sense from a creator's perspective on how youTube works. I've had episodes that I know should have done amazing and had excellent click-through rates only to have youTube seriously slow impressions by as much as 90 percent. Then I've had videos that didn't do well on release suddenly surge to tens of thousands of views 8 months later. I've tried to chase what I think an audience will like, but it has to go through youTube's filter which seems to be impossible to foresee. The only thing I can say I've been able to purposely accomplish is raise my man to woman ratio to 50/50. For awhile my women ratio was at a steady 10 percent. And I did this by making episodes about certain topics that also interested me besides animators and attractions. All of this to say, my opinion is to just do what keeps you interested in what you're doing. If you go chasing views or subs you'll eventually drive yourself bananas. I remember my first real episode hit really well. My Space Mountain episode hit 90k views over a winter holiday break. I got about 800 subscribers. Everything seemed fantastic. But then it slowed down. I started checking my channel way too often. I stared in disbelief while my next video's numbers stagnated after it's first 100 views. There's just no telling. Then out of nowhere, several different episodes surged out of nowhere, like I said, months after the fact. The way I see it, I enjoy what I do and no matter what the extent, the channel is always growing. As long as I'm having fun and things are steadily enough growing, I have no complaints. lol youTube knows what it's doing.

[@MsDisneylandlover]

What is the cartoon with ladies fighting?

[@disfarers]

lol I saw your other post.

[@MsDisneylandlover]

@@disfarers lol

[@danjeup5569]

Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but the scene of Pinocchio inside Stromboli's cage was animated by Frank Thomas, not Ollie Johnston.

[@disfarers]

You're not being a pain in the slightest. If I make a mistake, I want to hear about it. In this case, you're right again, it was a Frank Thomas scene. However, in doing my research I read that Ollie helped Frank with this one. To what extent, I'm uncertain. I suppose the source could have been wrong, but it's such an amazing animation that I wanted to run with showing it. And in looking at it in hindsight, I should have absolutely explained that. This was my first huge episode, so I admit that I made a number of mistakes and didn't zero in and polish everything as I should have. But thanks again, Dan! I love hearing your input and expertise! And just an fyi, because of our last conversation I already added a line about you in an upcoming Milt Kahl episode.

[@danjeup5569]

@@disfarers Hey, I think it's great that you're making these videos. You're doing work and keeping their legacy alive. Thanks for the mention in your upcoming Milt Kahl episode. Looking forward to see that!

[@danjeup5569]

You mention director Ham Luske at the 36:29 mark and cut to a photo that is supposedly him, however that's not Ham Luske. It's story man and writer Joe Rinaldi.

[@disfarers]

OMG your right! I don't know how I made such a numbskull mistake. When I first saw your comment I was all, "pfft. I wouldn't do that." But I totally did. I really have no idea how I could have done that. I have a small handful of awesome Hamilton Luske photos in a small digital library I keep. Thanks so much for pointing it out. I'm really sorry about it. I have a another of these Walt's Nine I'm working on right now that'll be out in November with plenty of actual Ham photos!

[@danjeup5569]

@@disfarers No problem. Don't mean to be pest. I'm just a big Disney geek too. I was lucky to have known and trained by a few of these guys.

[@disfarers]

Say WHAT???!!!! You can't end on that and not explain. You're an animator? You trained with "a few of these guys?" Who? What animators? What writers? Who did you know? What have you worked on? I literally sat bolt upright when I read that last comment! That's so amazing!

[@disfarers]

Ok I went to your website. Your resume of work is so astounding! You, at minimum, met Eric Larson?!!! I'm absolutely floored right now. I can't tell what roll you exactly played in The Little Mermaid, Oliver and Company, Great Mouse Detective or The Prince and the Pauper (but it's so incredible that you animated Mickey in any capacity)! All I can say is WOW!!!

[@danjeup5569]

@@disfarers Ha! Was just going to send you my website address. I knew Ward Kimball, Frank Thomas, and Ollie Johnston and received great advice and guidance from them. I met Woolie Reitherman and Marc Davis, and many others from the Walt era pictures. I was lucky to have met them and learned from them. Wish I could've met Milt, Lounsbery, and Les Clark.

[@MsDisneylandlover]

I can relate to Ollie and his problems. I am dealing with haters at my job now with this idiot at work and what reason y idky. Sic of dealing with over and over again with this person. My job has haters and nepotism. Please pray for me. Trying to stay positive but it hard when it daily.

[@disfarers]

I'm so sorry. It's so tough having to deal with people that bring things down.

[@MsDisneylandlover]

@disfarers thanks for that..my birthday is March 31st. So I look forward to going to Disneyland for my vacation and meeting Tiana and I hope to meet her. Thanks for the support.

[@MsDisneylandlover]

Believe me i know about working with mean spirited ppl. Smh

[@pizzaboy1948]

For your future reference: You keep mis-pronouncing "Chouinard". It is pronounced Chuunard.I know because I went to Chouinard and nobody I know that went to the art school ever pronounced like you have in this video and others. Just trying to help.

[@disfarers]

It's so awesome that you got to go to Chouinard! I'm not going to contest how you pronounce it, the place merged into California Institute of the Arts in 1970, so there aren't many that could correct how it's said. All I can say is that I listened to each and every one of Milt Kahl's and Marc Davis's interviews that I could find and I listened over and over to how they pronounced Chouinard, then I would pause and practice over and over saying how they said it. Back and forth repeating like that until I felt comfortable. I honestly fought hard to say it like them too. My natural tendency is to say it "show-rin-ard" (with an extra "r" in there). In the next episode where the school comes up, which is relatively soon, I'll double check myself though. Thanks for looking out and helping. And hey, thanks so much for watching too!