Ollie "The Terminator" rescue horses last chance at loading

Ollie needs to find a home but no one wants a horse that won't load.
There are some great quotes and thoughts for you in here even if your horse is a good loader.
There is also a checklist attached to the post for you to download and print so you can give it a go www.quantumsavv...
Enjoy!
Shane
If you would like me to assist you in these tasks you can join as a QS member here / @quantumsavvyhorsemanship
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[@paulparker3259]

Nice jo and proper training to load .no whipping done and no coaxing with grain. Nice work from a good and patient horseman. Well done

[@CountryLane-kj3fk]

I like how you have the patience to deal with a powerful animal, and you don't strong arm him. You let the trust build each day!... Thank you for sharing!....(amazing, to see the process.... and no harm to the horse, or stress!)...

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thanks CountryLane, yes I think they had tried to strong arm him before and he didn't like it, his confidence came back as we got to understand each other. It was a shame to see how close he got to not finding a home. Thanks for your input. Shane

[@SallyGreenaway]

This is the best explanation of horsemanship techniques on the internet. Really clear with what you're doing and trying to achieve and why, and really great examples. Thank you

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thank you Sally.

[@Kirritoo]

I think what I like best about all this is that he TOTALLY understands that teaching a horse to load has almost nothing to do with the trailer at all and everything to do with how the horse see the person on the other end of his lead rope....

[@sherrenmouradian7704]

Beautiful horse, he needs to be with an experienced horse person. You can see he's willing to learn. Great job!

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thank you so much!

[@KristaLynnWrites2]

Really impressive training techniques. And that horse is so worth the patience. Beautiful

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thank you so much!

[@emelielarivee2774]

You’re truly doing some amazing work! So amazing to see how kind you are and forgiving and the underlying message being that release is a moment for a horse to learn that you are not going to force them to do anything and this is where trust is built and soon the horse will try for you because of that respect. Positive emotions and release and knowing when to stop pushing. Cheers from Canada! Great to see you doing such super work.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Well said Emelie, you have summed it up well. I think if we could do that in everything we do with our horse we would all get a good deal and enjoy our time together a lot more.

[@auroraborealis6009]

I had a claustrophobic horse. At some point the bone around her left eye had been remodeled, and she had a scar on the front of her neck. She also hated loud men. Nothing could make her load in a straight load trailer. Nothing. When we bought a trailer, it was a slant load. She would load and allow us to close the partition,but wasn't thrilled. She hated enclosed spaces. Cross ties? Nope. Tying? Barely. Unexpected tugs on her head caused a blind panic. We reached a series of agreements. She would stand nicely instead of tying. At trailheads, I used to pass the end of the lead rope through the loop on the trailer. We built a shed with windows in our pasture. She trusted us not to tug on her or trap her, and she came to like soft spoken, gentle men. If we said something was okay, she accepted it. I got her when she was 14, and had her for 15 years.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Great job helping your horse, she was lucky to meet you.

[@joemedina7428]

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[@kristinetrott5087]

It is obvious so many of you people who deride Quantum have very little observation skills and even less horse-handling skills. Quantum was NOT hitting the horse with the whip, he was bouncing the staff of the whip on the nose or the side. There was one instance where he used the stock of the whip to bump the nose when Ollie was trying to run over Quantum and that was an important correction. You did not see this horse getting head-shy from this, quite the opposite in fact. He became much calmer as time went on because he was getting the message and figuring it out. Stop being armchair experts. Until you have worked with many different horse personalities, you have no room to judge!

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Yes, that is what I saw Kristine. Thank you for your level headed input. Shane

[@lydiagould3090]

You make it so clear to this horse , where you want him to go and ,where you don't(in your space), and you offer the release when he does what you ask.Then we see the change in the horse from being defensive ,to trusting you. You r explanation is great, and will be very helpful to many horse owners who are learning horsemanship.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thank you for your comments Lydia. Shane

[@zoenielsen1872]

If all scared horses met up with someone like you we would see a lot more happy horses.

[@sidilicious11]

That’s for sure!

[@MaxNafeHorsemanship]

As I have often said, never mind what happens, figure out WHY it happened. In about 20 seconds it was clear that horse's problem had nothing to do with the trailer (float). I would also not believe the lady when she says he is good to ride. He isn't even good to lead.

[@conniecrosby7469]

Great Job 👍👌 letting him accepting it not forcing it 😊

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

I think people may have tried to force him before and that is how he got called the terminator :)

[@conniecrosby7469]

@@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship probably 😊

[@michelebourke4340]

@@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship lots of racehorses are sensitive around their necks because they;re injected overly much, which may fit with ollie's ulcers too...hated loading coz he hated either trackwork or racing coz he was in pain from ulcers (usually poor fitness regimes) n/or injected. i used to be a trackwork rider in nz at times...good with horses...never needled any. only mediocre racehorses ( n their poorly educated riders) ever do pacework or gallop on the forehand. it puts too much stress on front legs n it's an ineffective athleticism. the motor power comes from the rear end, pushing with power while the forehand is super light. thus you get balance, strength n a contained power. love watching your work.

[@donnacsuti4980]

Great training and communication with the horse thanks for letting us watch

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@sidilicious11]

Very nice to see you help him understand.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

He was pretty nice about it all really especially considering how afraid he was in the beginning.

[@larrysmith1568]

Horses are one of Gods most beautiful creatures. Not very smart, but beautiful.

[@Flightwithoutwings]

Trust me they are smart. Try an Arabian and you will change your mind. But yes they are beautiful.

[@ineshvaladolenc6559]

Hot breeds tend to be smarter but yes, all of them are beautiful.

[@holykissme]

A brilliant, keenly responsive and very sensitive horse trainer.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thank you.

[@ladonnacushman2299]

Awesome, I love horses!

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Me too!

[@rhondaserges5136]

I would like to say how important it is to give your horse a good ride once in the trailer.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Yes good point.

[@cherylperry2910]

We need to rescue all horses that are in bad situations of abuse or being killed!

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Maybe we shouldn’t breed horses with out a forever home in mind.

[@cocainebear714]

He sees that whip in your hands you can see he becomes more aggressive to get away. Use the carrot then the stick . Beautiful looking horse 👍😉

[@pixie706]

Too many use a stick ...why ? It's natural for a horse to be alarmed and not happy . I've never used these methods and have good results

[@arribaficationwineho32]

Low hands and arms help a lot with nervous horses.

[@mrs.c5471]

The whip can be a great tool, if used correctly. Think of it as an extension of your arm/legs. What confuses me with his method is the tapping on the shoulder/neck to get the horse to move forward. I would think that pressure/contact made “behind” the front legs will go forward while pressure/contact on the neck/shoulder will send a horse backwards.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

The feel on the lead rope is the direction.

[@patriciaotoole5930]

Ty for being kind

[@lorineidtinytoadplot744]

lmao listening to the greeting in the beginning: Riiiiiite ok, He's a bit touchy is he ? ok Riiiight 😂😂😂

[@mrs.c5471]

That’s a very dangerous trailer! I would never load a scared horse in that trailer, just setting him up for failure. Take that broken divider out of there!

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Yes it is but sometimes owners don't have the option of a better trailer.

[@randybutler4772]

Well done.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thanks Randy, it was nice to have him respond so nice and even better he was safe enough to find a new home.

[@sharonmc5354]

Pulling on a horse is like driving with one foot on the brake.

[@katarinaosterlund1686]

Bland det bästa jag sett o med det menar jag att han förklara så bra varför o hur, vem är tränare?

[@sidilicious11]

Great ending.🙂

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

He found a nice home in the end 🥰

[@carolmurray3674]

This guy is not too bad but that stick should never be used to strike the horse! Take a look at Warwick Schiller videos

[@raymondjohnson6708]

You got to have patience that's for sure

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thanks Raymond

[@stevehood79]

Awesome!

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@cherylperry2910]

Get an apple or carrot sticks or sugar cubes, entice with food to get his mind off the fear of getting in an enclose area.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Not sure that would teach them much, it might get them on the trailer but that isn’t the main goal.

[@itsmeitsme8281]

Great job!

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thanks!

[@marymartin8763]

I have an OTTB as well, they all know how to load. If you have trouble loading them it’s because you aren’t communicating effectively. They know how to lunge as well. Those are two things they learn at a very young age. Give them a clear communication that you want them to go in the trailer, apply a little pressure with a whip (you don’t even need to touch them with it) and they’ll go in. Just be calm and don’t go swinging a whip around, they’re racehorses that’s going to make them hot and confused like how you saw this horse. Racehorses know how to do all these things you’re asking to do, but making a big deal and swinging shit about and not giving clear communication isn’t going to help. You could have loaded that horse in 2 minutes. I got my horse for $500 because no one could train or ride her properly in over 10 years, I found out it wasn’t her, it was them. She loves to learn and work! She was also a rescue

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

This load was more about getting the horse to trust rather than fight against the people that were looking to buy him, not just to get him loaded. Educating him in halter training is what he needed.

[@marymartin8763]

Quantum Savvy Horsemanship ottbs are halter trained already too. They aren’t quarter horses, take baby steps with them, if they need to work on leading or halter skills, work on that specifically and don’t add lunging and loading at the same time. I was even confused watching it, I had no clue what you were trying to get the horse to do and he looked equally as confused. These horses are already trained, they just need restarted in another discipline.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

I think your opinion of halter training and my opinion of halter training may be very different but that is what makes the world of horsemanship interesting. Thank you for your input.

[@dianemason9092]

Awesome 👌

[@horselover8472]

Don't like the stick...this could have gone very wrong depending on what the horse's previous experience was with this. In addition, where is the gentleness, where is the kindness.

[@horselover8472]

And then he punches him in the face...i don't care for this guy at all!

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

I think you may have missed that I was Ollies last chance, he had to get more handlable or he was going to the dog food factory, I think you need to be upset with the people who made him like this in the first place. Blocking is different to hitting and you need to know the difference.

[@naunettemartin7450]

I like want you are doing to the horse and I like your video that's you are you are doing with horse

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thank you Naunette.

[@naunettemartin7450]

@@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship you are welcome

[@naunettemartin7450]

@@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship you are welcome

[@more5347]

instead of popping him in the nose, try pushing him back at the brisket. it's much quicker, easier, and not as aggressive. works WAY better.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

That could work but it is a bit slow and for a horse that has been taught to run people over you need to be very decisive and no not aggressive but fair otherwise they come straight back through you. Thanks you for your input though.

[@mariapilarme]

I would be nervous too if someone rub that in my back. I don’t like that stick.

[@adibarr8996]

Did he wack Ollie in the face with that stick? 6;05 IS THAT COMSIDERED ACCEPTABLE? IVE NEVER seen that done b4

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Blocking is but hitting isn’t. Know the difference is important.

[@COLT-zr3jf]

A lot of unnecessary hitting of this horse on very sensitive areas like the face creating a new problem of head shyness. Pressure and release wonderful training tool used with your body, arms etc but using a stick randomly creates confusion and fear and stepping into the boundary of force and bringing in the feeling of fear when he see's a trailer. Also round penning a horse to get that position of trust before you attempt to load makes the whole procedure so much quicker and ultimately so much better for the horse in the long run.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thanks for the input.

[@remnant3333]

That horse must have been in a trailer one time when the vehicle got into an accident. That is why he is afraid. Lure him with food, an apple or a sugar cube and lead him into the trailer with it.

[@robertgobla7079]

1 st peoble., the girl does not know how to handle a horse.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

I NEVER rapped my horses on the nose to back them up EVER....I said back...and they wd back up as asked...never just a sudden bang on the nose... unsavory....

[@lievedeclerck1973]

I watched this video without the sound in order to see the cues the horse was given. I couldn’t guess what the horse was supposed to do or learn at any moment. The ‘last chance’ for Ollie the unhappy horse: 45 useless minutes with the whip that only taught him to beware of humans. Sir, you cannot do without your whip. You are hitting, not blocking! Block with your body as a leader does. He is given no room to retreat and no time to come back to you on his own, the precious thing we are looking for. The other horse comes in to support him, you send it brutally away instead of using this. End scene: we see the signs of repeated hitting on Ollie’s croup and a smile on your face. Sad! Please give other tactics a try. A stressed horse doesn’t learn anything good.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Maybe you should turn the sound.

[@Sea-cucumber1151]

It looked like you hit the visiting horse in the poll with the snap….you can see it in the video, and he ducks afterwards……I am not a fan of hitting them in the face at all, just seems like a way to make them aggressive or head shy…….I have seen the personal space training and the one that seems to cause less head shying…is when you jiggle the lead rope like crazy (violently) under their chins until they back off, it stops when they relax……I also think a horse being led on a trailer should be led head on, trying to go on sideways leads to slips and falls which makes them more nervous.

[@Pcon-yo3hj]

He did hit the horse on the face not once but several times! I am not impressed with this "Ole time bullshit"

[@carlanubaum3954]

Agreed

[@gerrietzinger139]

R4.

[@gritskennedy5007]

He doesnt like his name he doesnt care for pulling you cannot be thinking hesitatantly or with trepidation, do not anticipate the anxiety or nervousness if you are nervous and hesitant you are giving him the uh oh this is unpleasant i should be nervous my owner is not too sure not able to feel confident in my movement if my mindset is He wont do it he is going to be problematic etc.

[@rezotydnic]

Oh my..... flip a whip at a horses head to get it away from horse you're working? NO! This horse needs taught to come to pressure for release and to respect handlers space. Reminds me of an old saying. 'Just enough knowledge to be dangerous.' This guy has little bits and pieces of great concepts but doesn't 'finish' the concept or have techniques down correctly. Does he get job done? Kinda. There is an easier, more straightforward way when concepts flow and are done in order. I don't believe this guy understands lateral and vertical the way he talked when lunging horse in circles.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thanks for sharing your opinion!

[@rezotydnic]

@@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship Its great to be open minded because in working with horses, there is always something to learn. I've worked with horses over 40 years and learned from some masters. Steve Wright, Jack Brainard, Monty Roberts, Clinton Andreson, Stacey Westfall. To name a few. Never to old to learn or work kinks out of a method.

[@hilarydunaway4807]

I loves it.where are you?

[@rezotydnic]

@@hilarydunaway4807? Quantum savvy horsemanship or me? Not sure where he is but I'm in Canada. East Coast.

[@mrs.c5471]

Thoroughbreds are taught to “push” thru pressure which is confusing to owners/trainers not familiar with the racing world.

[@deniseoverbeck6266]

I use a stick for communication? It's aversive and creates fear for an already fearful horse. So disheartening to see these awful methods.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I guess you could say that our body language could be seen as aversive also. Then what about other horses when they use their body language to communicate? I think the clearest indicator of whether the horse is moving from fear is in the way it moves during and after the task, seeing we can't read their minds. Tension in the horse will show through it's movement and how quick it can relax after a task that stresses them. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!

[@rezotydnic]

There's nothing wrong with a stick when used properly. This man used it properly. Other than using it to get horse in other paddock away. Imho. Horses need to be taught desensitizing and sensitizing. In a herd they learn this quickly.

[@deniseoverbeck6266]

@@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship , horses show much more affiliative behaviors to other horses. We are not horses , horses understand that very well. One doesn't have to use aversive body language to teach a horse to load on a trailer.

[@rezotydnic]

@@deniseoverbeck6266 I guess this is based on your experience. Are you a trainer? Clearly a stick is not an unusual tool and is helpful in many ways, WHEN used correctly. I guess you've never seen Clinton Anderson or Monty Roberts working with horses. These 2 men are the creme de la creme.

[@cindischwiderson9250]

Such a disrespectful horse. I'm betting he needs more than trailer work.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Yes, I think so to.

[@rezotydnic]

He is disrespectful but where is that coming from? Was he ever taught correctly? And he certainly is not that disrespectful. He wasn't kicking out or biting etc. It is the horse owner/trainer respinsibilty to bring horse along to be a good citizen.

[@josealvor2677]

Ando ensamblado coolers aversi aguanto porque ser de noche

[@deniseoverbeck6266]

Touching a horse has zero to do with trailer loading. What a shame.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Unless you are checking how they are feeling about what your touching them with.

[@theterracebanquethall7124]

Totally disagree with this method....My experience? = 30 years I can load a horse over the phone...

[@brucemanley7593]

What the bleep are you doing???not giving him much confidence.

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Did you watch the whole video?

[@EvansBrosRacing]

@@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship They are obviously an idiot that would let that horse smash the hell out of them . You did an awesome job !

[@QuantumSavvyHorsemanship]

Thanks Ted.

[@commancheheart420]

@@EvansBrosRacing People make mistakes when it comes to horses many with good intentions. Instead of calling them idiots, you should praise them for seeking help.

[@EvansBrosRacing]

@@commancheheart420 This was the person's comment about the trainer , that I commented about , if you agree with that person's remark , after reading this , let me know ? : "What the bleep are you doing???not giving him much confidence." .