I am glad FINA had a fair decision... girl´s sports should and must be protected at all costs!!!
@dafrasier12 жыл бұрын
Male, Female, Mutant. Evolution has been proven true. Times have changed. no going back.
@lsmith60362 жыл бұрын
Cate Campbell is shockingly brave and courageous, when you remember the hate that many have had from the anti-biological-women's lobby masogenists, she is a magnificent woman is Cate, Cate Campbell is super and a hero, magnificent human. We should love trans, but only biological women should be in women's sports.
@gulliblestravels712 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Cate and all those courageous women who took knocks for this sensible change
@jakexgold3879 Жыл бұрын
Even having this topic to debate over is degenerated, old time Chinese ancient time banned most woman from sports, women are soft fleshed, time wasting to having them doing sports as they can be easily replaced by man of male. Degenerated mandkind even after over 1,000 years of traditions. So sick and degenerated generations of today!
@pas36072 жыл бұрын
Finally an organisation willing to put themselves out there and make a common sense decision. Hopefully this is a signal for other sports to make the same decision.
@jakexgold3879 Жыл бұрын
Even having this topic to debate over is degenerated, old time Chinese ancient time banned most woman from sports, women are soft fleshed, time wasting to having them doing sports as they can be easily replaced by man of male. Degenerated mandkind even after over 1,000 years of traditions. So sick and degenerated generations of today!
@jgreen58202 жыл бұрын
Common sense has prevailed. It is not all about the feelings of trans women, it's also about the feelings of biological women - they matter too! No one is saying trans women cannot swim or compete, just not against biological women at elite level where they can take away Olympic chances from biological women. If they have gone through male puberty it's grossly unfair to compete against biological women,. Inclusion and fairness are not necessarily the same thing and that's just how the world is.
@MistyinParis-2 жыл бұрын
Our country used to be the Majority rules. Today it's the woke minority wanting to take advantage in any way they can
@mayloo21372 жыл бұрын
Elite sports are not meant to be inclusionary. If they were, they wouldn't be elite sports. It's unfair for biological men to compete with biological women in the same event. Period. With or without hormones, biological males still retain their physiological advantages over females, especially if they have already gone through puberty. TL:DR I agree with you.
@Oceanfoxy2 жыл бұрын
The open category could provide many training opportunities for all athletes
@lsmith60362 жыл бұрын
Cate is a biological women rights activist. Great lady.
@mamainacc2 жыл бұрын
A 5 year old kid does not have a clue what he wants, let alone make a 80 year long life decision. We are not the same, we all have different DNA, interests, tastes and goals. Thank god for it, otherwise we would be living like north korea. At 12 years old a boy is already stronger than ALL OF THE WOMEN IN HIS FAMILY AND COMMUNITY, this is consistent with ALL PRESENT AND HISTORICAL CULTURES. We have the same rights and that is it.
@onetwo192 жыл бұрын
Finally some sanity and some concern for womn who far outnumbers trans people. Thank God countries outside of woke western countries had a say!
@MrCph22002 жыл бұрын
It’s not about outnumbering, it’s about fairness
@testonly35072 жыл бұрын
Now I can watch, women swimming sports again! I respect and support FINA, and beautiful Cate!
@lucychia39872 жыл бұрын
Our flag bearer Cate, a true hero, a true Aussie!
@lizzeltired21552 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that she said she was going to the Olympic trials next
@realalbertan2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a done deal. She was not an active member of USA Swimming and has to apply to meet their criteria. She hasn't swam a long course race since transitioning and therefore is not qualified. You just don't get just sign up.
@giotheone2448 Жыл бұрын
He isn’t good enough to even final in a long course pool couldn’t even break the female ncaa recors as a man what a joke
@tonywybrow27672 жыл бұрын
Well said Kate, showed care for the other side of the argument unlike the feelings based me me me argument
@lsmith60362 жыл бұрын
Cate campbell is best
@lsmith6036 Жыл бұрын
.Also it is no more inclusive to allow biological men in women's sports, than it is to allow adult males to steal all the eggs in toddlers Easter egg hunts
@lsmith60362 жыл бұрын
Cate Campbell and Sharon Davies are the best swimming people, heroes
@medimedimed2 жыл бұрын
Finally!!
@karenqueenslander64412 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Cate on showing courage in speaking out
@lsmith6036 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Cate is greater
@vegassims72 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!
@24magiccarrot2 жыл бұрын
This is the argument in a nutshell and it doesn't come any easier than this. If you don't understand why trans-women shouldn't compete against biologically born women then you should also be offended by the fact that there is a separate women's division to begin with. If you genuinely believe that it doesn't matter then just scrap all women's divisions and have everyone compete equally.
@sjcobra842 жыл бұрын
I'm with Cate on this one.
@zgobermn68952 жыл бұрын
About time! The argument from the other side does not even address the real issues when it comes to competitive sports that involves a lot of physical feats. Those who reject this ruling are running on emotions and moral black mailing and virtue signaling. No can do.
@sktan784 Жыл бұрын
That's the correct decision
@lewissmith350 Жыл бұрын
Couragous Cate Campbell, well done, we should be loving to all in our society, but also have clear headed nuance.
@andygonzalez63562 жыл бұрын
Finally.., reason rules the day. 😎
@ericdaly13492 жыл бұрын
Finally common sense
@mayloo21372 жыл бұрын
Cate, you have my support from Canada. I wish our female athletes would speak up. But then, it doesn't seem to be as big an issue here.
@lsmith6036 Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@jaikim49052 жыл бұрын
Well done ! Enough with the insanity
@lsmith6036 Жыл бұрын
Cate Campbell is a heroine
@lynneburridge90822 жыл бұрын
Well done Cate.
@Sherlock2454 ай бұрын
From the Vice Chairman The critical point here is the influence of male puberty. I would respectfully suggest that the transgender community look at the research, and the figures are unequivocally clear in the advantage young males have over mature women in sport.
@jesus18peace Жыл бұрын
“A policy that is trying to be fare to all participants is exclusionary” need they say more?! Fairness is so not what they advocate for.
@emmacassidy84822 жыл бұрын
Ironically, it's a very stereotypically male trait to make it all about him.
@lsmith6036 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's man splaining, narcissistic, up with Cate, she is great and brave, proud of her
@rkara22 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately like all centralized policy making processes the majority of the stakeholders who are most affected by the policy we're left out of the room. Shame on Cate Campbell and the other stakeholders for not recognizing this and trying to justify their exclusive policy making process as being inclusive. It's not. This has nothing to do with science or evidence, it's about people or community. Try using a decentralized policy making process next time and see how well you go then. !DA
@giotheone2448 Жыл бұрын
Lol so happy ppl like u are mad lol what a joke keep Women’s sports for women period … lol wait I just said period so if u can’t get one stfu about competing agaisnt women
@carloss67074 ай бұрын
If a men is around 5-6 secs faster it is not fair…
@allandwyer7769 Жыл бұрын
Pardon my ignorance, and if I’m wrong, somebody please correct me, why don’t we as a society start promoting transgender sports. In the Olympics as Wellers in society, more widely, you could have categories where transgender women compete against other transgender women and categories where transgender men compete against other transgender men. I know it’s a novel idea, but it’s one that might solve the problem. and make it more inclusive. It would put an end. to this debate once, and for all hopefully although I have been known to be wrong, it’s just an idea🤔
@giotheone2448 Жыл бұрын
Bc in all reality not enough ppl care about transgender anytbing it’s just the loud minority
@australiancreepycrawlies64177 ай бұрын
Would Maddie Groves still have the same stance if it turned out Mireia Belmonte was a man?
@williecooper69522 жыл бұрын
cate that not right about ban tran cate if you wont too play male sport if a male sport say you can not play with them what would you do
@tarablue44722 жыл бұрын
Women wouldn't even QUALIFY for male sports even if they allowed her to play, because she'd be out-competed. How many trans men have qualified for men's team???
@giotheone2448 Жыл бұрын
@@tarablue4472yup!
@igboman28602 жыл бұрын
I understand Cates arguments but it seemed weird that she is arguing to exclude transwomen at the elite level and also arguing that at the college and community level she argues for their inclusion. Why? If her level like she said has a really small percentage of the population it means that is should have an even smaller number of transfolks, would that be an argument to include transfolks at her level also? Her point here seems inconsistent and does not appear to following a logical conclusion
@emmacassidy84822 жыл бұрын
Because it's not just about trans. Women's rights, safety, and protection are being infringed upon. Women are the ones paying the price for it.
@swarti2036 Жыл бұрын
Nasty cate !
@JaTaunPratt2 жыл бұрын
Damn...so what's next, black people gotta go back to segregated sports?
@michellekaufmann9782 жыл бұрын
I hope this is sarcasm.
@JaTaunPratt2 жыл бұрын
@@michellekaufmann978 I'm not sure. There's all this science coming out to keep games fair and equal. Sounds like the kind of thing that was used to keep sports segregated for many many years. So who knows anymore.
@JaTaunPratt2 жыл бұрын
@@imenehaddad2860 love that transphobic attitude. Let's have lesbians stop competing with straight women because they are stronger based on science as well
@imenehaddad28602 жыл бұрын
@@JaTaunPratt except lesbians are not stronger than straight women. You just made that up.
@tarablue44722 жыл бұрын
A non-sequitur, nice try tho.
@7GSC2512 жыл бұрын
Maybe start letting teens get HRT so “biological advantage” stops being a thing. I just can’t believe theres hateful people out there that make it this hard to live. We are all supposed to be equal, so what gives you extremists some kind of advantage over us? Start letting kids choose for themselves and stop abusing them.
@Recoveringred2 жыл бұрын
I've had pcos since I was 16 and 20 years later have never had hrt unless I paid out of pocket. I have had one precancerous mass removed from my cervix on top of 3 rounds of severely painful biopsies. Done having kids. Several messed up hormones. Literally inverted estrogen and testosterone. And they refuse to give me a hysterectomy until the cancer becomes invasive. But if I wanted to be a man medicaid would pay for a hysterectomy and hrt in my state. Who is being discriminated against?
@mamainacc2 жыл бұрын
A 5 year old kid does not have a clue what he wants, let alone make a 80 year long life decision. We are not the same, we all have different DNA, interests, tastes and goals. Thank god for it, otherwise we would be living like north korea. At 12 years old a boy is already stronger than ALL OF THE WOMEN IN HIS FAMILY AND COMMUNITY, this is consistent with ALL PRESENT AND HISTORICAL CULTURES. We have the same rights and that is it.
@lsmith60362 жыл бұрын
Orwellian phrases like hateful, are not helpful, we need rational debate, not name calling,
@TheBasedCanadian2 жыл бұрын
We're extremists? Not people who choose to cut their penises off? GOD does not make mistakes! You were not born in the wrong body you are mentally sick and need psychological help
@hilarywhatley13352 жыл бұрын
Children aren't mature enough to make these sorts of life-altering decisions. It's not about abuse, it's about safety and wisdom. We don't have enough long term evidence that these hormones and even puberty blockers are safe for children. There is evidence of long term bone damage and possible effects on the brain from puberty blockers. The science is emerging, and will continue to do so. And while there are some truly trans children, there are also many more that will do anything, including change their bodies, for attention, approval, and belonging to a group. At that age, they are too vulnerable to outside influences and their prefrontal cortexes are not fully developed (decision making center in the brain). It must wait until they are of legal age (18) to be safe.