First generation wins in terms of being the most classic, the second one wins in terms of beauty and design (in my opinion) and the third generation wins in terms of quality and manufacturing
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Nice summarized!
@jarrodlee15063 жыл бұрын
First gen transitional hands down.more character and isn't on wcery second persons wrist.ceramic sub suffers the go to for everyone problem.as well.just too common no originality in selection
@jarrodlee15063 жыл бұрын
Pulled the trigger on the 2006 to 2012 model today.great watch
@explorerjlc17432 жыл бұрын
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@bryanryan45042 жыл бұрын
Latest always worst quality and cutting corners.
@AlfredoRGuillen Жыл бұрын
The first James Bond Omega Seamaster has the quartz caliber and the aluminum bezel. It is exactly the one you bring us today in this video. I think it is the most beautiful of all three.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Yep that’s the one 👍
@emhezmfe5 ай бұрын
Love it, but no quartz for me-- gotta be the automatic version for me.
@davidroscoe38152 ай бұрын
@@emhezmfe Got the mechanical/automatic version as my "wedding ring" from a wonderful woman in 2001 still wear it every day and always looks great.
@tjwon20054 жыл бұрын
I pick 2012 model. It looks more classic to me - simple and clean. Size is perfect, too.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I do like that model also :)
@jean4j_ Жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch aren't the number not that visible compared to the 1st and 3rd one?
@Desh7274 жыл бұрын
I went in to buy the 2018 model, and left with the 2012 in black. I couldnt help it. The thing just looked so beautiful, I couldn't help it. I've had it on my wrist every day for over a year now, and I still admire it. No joke.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Nice... did the price difference help the decision? They were clearing them last year, sometimes for over 25% off
@Desh7274 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch uh, kind of, but I was willing to spend more for the 2018 model. It was a bonus that it was cheaper but either way. The lacquer dial just looks insanely good.
@wuyeah19805 жыл бұрын
Seeing them together my personal favorite is actually the 90s.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you're not alone there William! :)
@paulyoung43925 жыл бұрын
I have the 1998 version. What a great watch! I would love one of the others. I'm not sure which one though .
@lamnam58344 жыл бұрын
I have one from 1992. Dad bought it not knowing a thing about it. He greatly prefers it over his submariner
@mikeysrants45274 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2003 and the only upgrade I’d want is the auto version. The new one with silver and blue looks good though
@wuyeah19804 жыл бұрын
A bit of update. You guys are welcome to check out my Instagram wuyeah1980, this video got me hooked. I got myself the 1st Gen SMP300 in midsize.
@kennychung77714 жыл бұрын
I’ve visited the 5th Ave Omega boutique and have to admit, the newer model, especially the movement and laser etched dial, is absolutely brilliant
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
I think so too :)
@tricky92x11 ай бұрын
Lug to Lug is way too long, though. Looks amazing, wears terrible on a medium sized wrist.
@Zeratsu10 ай бұрын
@@tricky92x and the older models has a slimmer lug to lug? Do you know the dimensions?
@tricky92x10 ай бұрын
@@Zeratsu The 2531.80 has a 47mm lug to lug length, while the newest SMP has a 50mm lug to lug length.
@Zeratsu10 ай бұрын
@@tricky92x jeez 50 lug to lug is unwearable on my wrist. Thanks!
@doffy95245 жыл бұрын
Purchased the middle one after this same debate and boy do I feel like I made the right choice each time I look at it.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Cool, when did you pick it up? I think it’s getting harder to source it now as it’s being phased out. Cheers! :)
@doffy95245 жыл бұрын
I purchased mine as the new model came out for a steal. Since then it's appreciated which I think comes from the versatility of the watch as youve said.
@EazySDJ4 жыл бұрын
I have the 2012 in blue and its by far my favorite watch, it really is a timeless design. Understated, sleek and classy.🥰
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@Ari_G733 жыл бұрын
I agree. I just bought this myself
@errorlogging4594 жыл бұрын
The previous generation clean dial is a gorgeous watch... the lacquer dial is so attractive...
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I think so too :)
@jaysterling263 жыл бұрын
The natural fade on the bezell- lovely bit of wabi-sabi.
@a0r0a75 жыл бұрын
I love all of them. My favourite is the 2012. The dial and hands just pop👍
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for those thoughts - the 2012 remains one of my favorite watches to be sure! :)
@FitOutPost5 жыл бұрын
Great episode for someone like me who doesn't know all the differences between those 3 generations. Very educational. I enjoyed it. Thank you for creating and sharing it.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Most welcome man, glad you found it helpful! :)
@garywilliams5893 жыл бұрын
I had the choice between the 2012 and the 2018, I chose the 2012 as it is so versatile ,. You can go diving or you can were it to a wedding. Great break down of the 3 models. Keep the videos coming.
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate :)
@martinfrederiksen56303 жыл бұрын
You Can easily wear the 2018 to a wedding.
@jean4j_ Жыл бұрын
@@martinfrederiksen5630 I guess depending on your wrist it can appear a bit bulky which isn't typically a suit look. But depends on each person
@Andrew-J3164 жыл бұрын
The one I pick is the 2012 model. Thanks for video!
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy, most welcome :)
@carsonnguyen44234 жыл бұрын
The original one and the newest one are absolutely gorgeous. The contrast on those models are perfect and timeless! The only gripe on the new one for me is the date location - I wish they would have left it at the 3 o clock position.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for comment - actually I quite like 6 o’clock dates... it preserves the symmetry of the dial.
@nero84844 жыл бұрын
The middle one...still classic with great proportions and the best wearing comfort!
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thoughts - I never thought about wearing comfort but I think you’re right!
@randomnameindeed5 жыл бұрын
The second generation (the one in the middle) is by far the prettiest of the three.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
It’s a beaut for sure :)
@yourbestfriend1944 жыл бұрын
The older one is just amazing!
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is :)
@BuzzOff.5 жыл бұрын
The 1993 model is the best. I have the automatic variant but will also be purchasing the 2018 model.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that - all the best with getting the new model! :)
@stevendudley98064 жыл бұрын
The 1993 model is the best. I have the automatic variant but will also be purchasing the 2018 model.
@jal25504 жыл бұрын
Unreal how the 2018 model just took Omega to another stratosphere in quality. Not in a million years did I think I would ever pay 5k for a watch, Much less anything non Rolex. I've been a proud owner of exactly that model and color Diver 300 for over a year and LOVE my watch.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - I think they’ve achieved something quite special with this model and when we look back it will likely be viewed as a major step for Omega :)
@Jabber-ig3iw4 жыл бұрын
JAL I’d have this over any Rolex. If I was spending Rolex money I wouldn’t be buying a Rolex, much nicer and better quality brands out there.
@greenbow78882 жыл бұрын
13:25 The SMP that you have there doesn't use Liquid Metal. LM is used on the Planet Ocean where metal is poured into the laser etched bezel. The SMP is enamel (as you said) poured in. Just saying. Have watched this vid plenty of times for some reason. Probably because my gut feeling told me to get the first model ceramic in blue. (The middle one in your vid.) For some reason though the blue looked off in the shop lights, and nothing like it does in videos. I should have asked the store if they could bring it outside into daylight. The blue just looked off to me, However I definitely regret not buying it, as I know I would have loved it. (I was too quickly dismissive, but also I'd had a bad experience with an automatic.) I also had the original first generation in quartz too, in that royal/electric blue. Sadly I bought the 36mm whereas I should have bought the 41mm. Doesn't bother me so much as I don't still have it. I also owned the royal/electric blue one in automatic, and that was the bad experience. The slightest knock and the timekeeping went mad gaining 5 seconds a minute. Probably just a bad model that needed fixing, but I did not keep it.
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's correct, this model isn't liquid metal, as others have said. No need to keep feeling bad - you can get the older version in the after-market at discount!
@imranbecks5 жыл бұрын
You are missing the 2220.80 SMP in there. Its a nice mix of both modern and old with the 2500 Co-Axial caliber but on the classic aluminium bezel and waves dial.... That's the one i have.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's right, although to be fair I actually did mention it. If I find one somewhere in the house I will be sure to update this video! ;)
@threecats82195 жыл бұрын
At 3:46, why have you listed a 44 hour reserve on the quartz. I guess I must have missed you move on to talking about the automatic version, of that generation quartz. (I used to have the lighter blue quartz, and it allowed us to change the hour alone. Meaning when our clocks went backwards and forwards, we didn't have to reset the whole watch. Wow it was accurate; it gained only half a second a month.) The strap on the 2018 is a vast improvement. It was just too 'fussy' on the earlier versions; there's too much happening on it. I went to look at the middle one of yours about three years ago. I was instantly put off by the strap from viewing it just in the shop window. I wasn't keen on the dial colour either and I thought it was gorgeous from videos. However I put that maybe down to the shop lighting in the store when I went in to see it. I like that newer strap is plainer or rather more subtle, and which you objected to, it being thick. I like it being 42mm dial as well. Talking about straps, currently on my wrist is a Casio G-Shock MR-G G1000B. (For all those who hold the word horology in reverence, take a deep breath. I've not set it once since I bought it, and it's never more than half a second out. When power gets a bit lower, I put it in front of a low-energy light bulb for a day or two. It's good for months again. Two year power reserve.) Anyway the strap is 21mm at the narrowest, and 25mm at the widest. Plus it's thick. To me, it makes the watch more than a watch. It makes it like wearing a watch, and a black bracelet. Since I sort of like wrist adornments but rarely wear them, this Casio watch is like dual purpose to me. Last point. I find it odd that you would wear the middle watch more for black tie. Those dull grey numbers on the dial are quite ugly. More importantly to me though, it's what I think that counts. I would wear my Casio to a black tie if I wanted. Anyone that looked down their nose at that, isn't worth even considering. It's what I like/love that matters, and nothing else. (Just like it is for you and the middle watch of the three.) ......…. Whatever though, good luck with the videos; you pace well.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for a detailed and thoughtful comment, I really appreciate that effort! Re: power reserve, yes I had transitioned to talking about the original automatic movement at that stage. The quartz movement is pretty cool with that hour hand adjustment you mentioned - do check this out in my full review if you haven't already. Re: bracelets in 2012 compared to 2018, I honestly am not sure what you mean. *Objectively* speaking the 2018 bracelet is thicker and heavier. The design is very similar, so I'm not sure what you mean by the older one being "too fussy". Re: Casio - I love my Casio... my Mudmaster GWG-1000 is one of my favorites, still. Not sure what the strap size is but it's probably something like 26mm at the case, and it's 19mm thick. It's a watch that wears me as much as I wear it :D Re: My comment about middle model being more suitable for formal occasions... I am simply commenting on what is most appropriate, and IMO a smaller and "quieter" watch is by definition more appropriate. Of course you could wear any of these and they would mostly be fine. What we think of course counts, and we should wear what we enjoy in a general sense... but you would no doubt also agree that there is a question of suitability in context. E.g. I *could* wear sneakers and a baseball cap with my suit, but almost everyone would say it's not appropriate. Thanks again for your thoughts. Cheers, Ivan.
@threecats82195 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch It's good to hear you like Casio too. Even with my MR-G I still look lovingly at new and other Casio. Although I would not buy another, because I would not wear it. (The only extra Casio I ever consider is the same yours, the G1000 Mudmaster. I think about that sometimes as my adventure watch, but I have two others I can use for that. Just one of them is so old and I don't like it, and the other one I would rather preserve. Although there is an MOD Casio coming. That's Ministry of Defence.) Some of the newer MTGs are stunning in an industrial way. The radio controlled, and solar powered Casio, to me are 'just perfect', as long as they are G-Shock. However I know I won't buy one, since I have no need. I can understand however why you would 'collect' the three Seamaster. They are something to behold and compare. I can't really think of a way to describe why I didn't like the earlier Omega bracelets. Fussy or too much happening was what I said, but I was honestly struggling for words. I think it was just too flash. I might be thinking wrongly. Maybe it was because I noticed it in broad daylight in a shop window. ….. However maybe it's easier to say why I like the newer 2018 bracelet. The links look flattened more on the 2018 model, and the polished steel parts look slimmer. It's sleeker, even though it's a touch thicker maybe. Whereas to me, the pre2018 version, looks posher. It's like Omega aimed to make it so gorgeous, that they missed the mark, and ended up with flashy. However don't let me put you off. I know how sometimes, it's possible to change one's own perception, when hearing another's. If you love the pre-2018 bracelet more, then that's right. Also you have the pre2018 watch in your hands, and I only saw it once. Like I said, to me the bracelet was too much. Instantly I said 'no' to myself. To me, the 2018 bracelet edged just a fraction towards the other style Omega bracelet. One that we don't see any more. www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-seamaster-300-m-chronometer-22558000 Only in the sense of being flatter and less shiny. *I like less shiny.* E.g. 13:22 you have two watches together. You can just manage to see that the polished steel parts on the new watch are narrower. While the centre link is a touch wider. ……. Secondly, at 14:31, (when the camera focuses), the middle watch bracelet is shown. It's a good look at it, not being too close up. To me, there is too much happening on it. Then the camera immediately focuses on the new bracelet, and it looks to me sleeker. I want to say less gaudy, but the older bracelet was not gaudy. Meaning using gaudy was not appropriate. The new is less jazzy maybe. However overall, I can't really judge because I can't see them in person. I also might go and see the new and still not be impressed. I honestly cannot say 100%. Plus I would not like to be mean about what someone likes. Lastly though, while I understand the analogy of sneakers at black tie event. The new Seamaster should not be compared to sneakers. I would wear the new Seamaster to black tie, but then I would wear my black metal Casio MR-G too. To me, my Casio has complete class. Anyone who said different is wrong to me. Some Casio MR-G cost as much Omega. To differentiate, we would have to a) be snobby about brand, b) discriminate over country of origin. Or c) be snobby about movement over technology. With technology and in almost every respect, my Casio easily outguns the Seamaster. Yet I need to do an about face and say, the Seamaster is an outstanding watch. The Seamaster also wins for pure aesthetic beauty. Although please don't underestimate MR-G beauty until you have held one for some time, it's a real timepiece. To me however practicality is beauty too, as well as aesthetics. Therefore leaving the Casio MR-G and the Seamaster equal in beauty. Just different beauty. Like I could accidentally drop my MR-G, and not be heading to Omega repair with tears on my face.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying - again I really appreciate the time and effort you have put in here, as I can understand it takes quite a bit of thought to do that. I think I can now appreciate what you mean about the 2012 bracelet... overall however it of course subjective and personal, and I don't mind it one bit. I can appreciate the differences, and I honestly can say I like both new and old for what they are. Regarding the dress code analogy - yes the SMP is by no means the level of sneakers, that was just hyperbole. It's just a comment on formality. Going from my Casio GWG-1000, to the 2018 SMP, to say a JLC Master Ultra Thin on leather, there is no question that we move from less formal to more formal. To me, the 2012 model sits more toward the formal end than the 2018 model... that's all I was saying with that.
@threecats82195 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch Yeah of course I understand you analogy of the sneakers and black tie. Just worried that you thought the 2018 Seamaster was a bit bright maybe. I love it. To be honest when I saw it launched, I fell in love. However I had a poor experience with the earlier Omega automatic Seamaster. Drop from a very low height sent timekeeping crazy. It was not a one off, it happened again and the same happened; timekeeping went mad. It was gaining over an hour a day. … I know that it sounds bizarre that I managed too drops from low height. One was fell off bed, because it slipped out of a shirt pocket. Another from a low couch. The new 2018 Seamaster if certified to one metre. The older ones were supposed to be too, at around 2004. I just got robbed. It made me think automatic watches were complete waste of money, hence the G-Shock journey. Anyway yeah, You reference me spelling out all my thoughts. It's been easy because all the thoughts are active in my mind. (It's been good reading your replies too.) I am thinking of buying the 2018 blue Seamaster. Today I just ordered a magnifying glass from Amazon. I'll take it to an Omega retailer, and get a close look at the watch. The one I I mean to take home, if I do. Just that I saw one reviewer say that he had defects in his black 2018 Seamaster. The twelve o'clock bars had a touch of damage, and there was a slight hole in the ceramic dial I do chatter on anyway too. However I love getting down and gritty talking about stuff fully; anything that I do. Like chatting about video games, music, audio kit (Chord DACs).
@tomscott44385 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 2017 version (last year) of the middle one. My local AD made me an offer (10% off) I could not refuse. The newer 42mm model was impressive, but I kept going back to the 41. Sat a bit better on my wrist and I preferred the more understated dial. I have three other watches (two DeVille's and a Grand Seiko) but this one is my everyday wearer. BTW, Omega really stands behind their product. Took mine in because the power reserve was falling a bit short. They performed a complete overhaul including new hands, seals, revised chronometer measurements (+2.5 spd) and returned it Fed Ex priority overnight and all under warranty so free of charge. You get what you pay for.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Tom - yeah if I had to be honest the 41mm sits better on my wrist as well, although I do like sporting the large 42mm also. It is good to know that you got such good service from Omega, I wasn't aware they would go to those lengths! :)
@ivankerr35705 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott good choice however you can get 20 - 25% off at any AD without trying
@tomscott44385 жыл бұрын
@@ivankerr3570 Where are you shopping? I visited all three AD's in my area (San Francisco Bay Area) and only one offered me a discount. Everyone else was selling at full retail... and I DID try.
@whereRbearsTeeth4 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott, I negotiated 40% off of mine...paid $2640
@PubliusMx4 жыл бұрын
@@whereRbearsTeeth where did you got that deal?
@E2EK131MM Жыл бұрын
‘Old faithful’ is still hands down my favourite. Looks absolutely stunning on the new Omega Steel Mesh bracelet. Picked one up several weeks ago.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Steel mesh? Interesting…
@williamrizzo12855 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Omega has really outdone themselves with the new 2018 upgrades. I love the 42 mm case size and the wave design on the dial as well as the color matching date window at the 6:00. The movement is brilliant as well. This watch is actually worth every dollar of the listed price! Thank you for another great review.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for man, I’m glad you enjoyed the comparison. IMO the movement is perhaps the most important and impressive upgrade of all :)
@Longshore794 жыл бұрын
The 2012-2017 version in the middle. Absolutely stunning piece which can be worn with anything , even a suit! The new one is really nice too but the helium escape valve is too big .
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Yes I totally get what you mean! I really wish they had restrained themselves and kept it at 41mm!
@kylelundy78703 жыл бұрын
I agree about the escape valve, but the other improvements pulled me to choose the 2018 model.
@the00files785 жыл бұрын
Great video! I still prefer the middel one. After 6 years, still one of my go-to watches. -Tyler
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - the lacquer dial middle model also remains one of my favourite pieces :)
@MaestroDeca4 жыл бұрын
I love your podcast, 00 files! Keep it up! Hoping The Spy Who Loved Me gets 10s all across the board!
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
What podcast??
@solidus19953 жыл бұрын
I love the bezel and braclet on the vintage.
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
Me too :)
@George-zt5ll5 жыл бұрын
I have the black non-wave ceramic. Bought it for me 30 years celebration in October. Love the simple, clean dial esthetic. It truly is an all around watch. My next one at 35 if everything goes well would be either a Rolex Explorer Mk1 or an Omega MOTFM.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Well what can I say - you have good taste :) All the best for the next 5 years! :)
@eddiestevens32205 жыл бұрын
Moonwatch has to be
@navegandolejanooriente6268 Жыл бұрын
Original Bond 1993, Upgrade 2006, Ceramic 2012 and a complete overhaul of the case and movement 2018. I really excited so see what Omega comes up for for the Bond Seamaster G5. Hopefully it will be slightly slimmer and less heavy case that the current model.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Yes agreed, hopefully slimmer and back to 41mm for me! But next one might be another tweak rather than a whole new watch.
@Dan-565 жыл бұрын
I have a black 300M that falls somewhere between your first and second models. 2008 if my memory is correct, it has the aluminum bezel and push pin bracelet but the wave dial with applied indices and the longer hands. I’m sure Omega made small changes through the years 😉.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Ah probably the first co-axial model then? They ran for a brief period from the late 2000's - Craig wore a blue one in Casino Royale.
@Dan-565 жыл бұрын
Perth WAtch: Yes, it is a Co-Axial, so it has its feet in two generations of 300M 😃👍.
@hipphipphurra775 жыл бұрын
Top review! On more note on the 2500 movement. The 2500 A/B/C are said to be little troublemakers, not so the 2500 D.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. Yes I believe you’re right about that!
@ronniep92722 жыл бұрын
I have the 2012 version and love it, it will age the best out of the three in my opinion. The waves on the latest version are nice and the bracelet looks better but I don't like how they got rid of the applied logo on the dial and the font on the bezel, not to mention that oversized helium esxape valve.
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Yeah fair points - after a couple of years of ownership, my biggest gripe about the latest version is its size. Too big and chunky!
@walz463792 жыл бұрын
just got my 253180 (2001) a few days ago, LOVE it! liked the blue in the bezal and dail better in this version and a bit slimmer, just a treat on the wrist
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Enjoy!
@OmerBonfil5 жыл бұрын
Great review of the generations. I own the Seamaster Professional 225450 which is with the Speedmaster bracelet. It was the first watch I bought, and I saved for 7 years to get it. Since I saw it in the AD window in 2000, till I bought it in December 2007, I knew this is the one I want and no other. I have tried on the newest model, but I think mine is just perfect for me.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that - wow 7 years, now that’s persistent! I’m glad the model wasn’t phased out in the time it took you to save up! :)
@OmerBonfil5 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch my watch collecting journey would have looked a whole lot different if that happened. I thought of several watches costing lot less during that time, but I knew I will never be satisfied without this one, so it had to be the first.
@TruckeeDoggo4 жыл бұрын
The 2254.50 is widely considered one if the best Seamaster models ever
@davelaughey431 Жыл бұрын
It's the most military spec and would undoubtedly have been a real James Bond pick. IMHO!!!
@JohnJohnson-dv1ds3 жыл бұрын
I have an old Seamaster automatic just returned from service from the Swatch Group in Culver City in LA. It was a 1K service but worth every penny. Looks better than new if that’s possible. I have many watches worth more but this one touches my soul.
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
Ooh nice one! For that much work I suppose the charge is justified!
@Brian1f12 жыл бұрын
Why was it 1k? I thought it was around $500?
@pablorages12415 жыл бұрын
Always liked the seamaster. The newest one for me ... I think Omegas are a better watch than many of the brands that get more exposure and charge more
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - oh yeah they are wicked good. In terms of sheer brand penetration, I reckon Omega is top 5 in most minds, if not top 3 :)
@hipphipphurra775 жыл бұрын
"Omegas are a better watch than many of the brands" true, but talking about luxury watches you don't by the watch, you buy the brand.
@pablorages12415 жыл бұрын
@@hipphipphurra77 that's the problem
@jarrodlee15064 жыл бұрын
Your buying marketing perception.omega is the best value wise with a better movement than rolex period.imo
@pablorages12414 жыл бұрын
@@jarrodlee1506 ... that's sort of what I said
@cgimoviemanАй бұрын
I’ve own and lovingly cared for the original, in automatic chronometer variant, since mid-2002. It was my first very nice watch, that I bought to commemorate the first year working my first professional job after college. Appropriately, the first place that I wore it very much was on a cruise with my family through the northeast of Canada and the U.S. I’ve had the watch professionally serviced by Omega just once in 2020, but it has been more of a special occasion watch for me that I’ve been extremely careful with and aware of when wearing it. So it has remained in flawless condition. I have to admit, I do really love the most current version maybe a little more though. It’s just so beautiful, has a more luxurious look, and the co-axial movement is just better. But I just can’t seem to part with my original. Mainly because I’ve had it for so long, and what it represents. I am pleased that it has held its value in the quality I’ve kept it, and even increased. I bought it new for $1,750 in 2002. Pristine versions like mine I’ve seen recently selling for $3,200 to $3,500. Pretty amazing. Love Omega though. Finally purchased a Speedmaster Moon Watch with sapphire face/back from the Omega boutique in Chicago just weeks ago. Even dressed up to do it. The staff was very professional, and even served us two glasses of Moët champagne while we spoke and went over the details. I’m not a millionaire, but it’s fun to have somewhat similar experiences on rare occasion.
@horologyproject5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love each iteration. It kills me that the newest version is even larger. It pushes it over the edge for my wrist, unfortunately. I think they should relaunch the midsize, but this time at 38/39 vs the 36mm from the past.
@gp27125 жыл бұрын
Horology Project beef up your arms eat some beef jerky
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Personally I would've loved it if they kept it at 41mm.
@horologyproject5 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch I too would have preferred that. But a part of me hopes that the larger size will make way for a 39mm, but I think it may be wishful thinking on my part.
@SuperSnakePlissken Жыл бұрын
One of my first jobs in college was working for a high-end jewelry store that sold omega watches and I purchased a 2003 Seamaster. I love that watch and had it until the 2018 update came out and I could not resist I had to buy a black-faced new omega Seamaster. I wear that watch every day it’s my absolute favorite.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Nice one! What did you do with the old watch?
@SuperSnakePlissken Жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch I had it serviced and then gave it to my youngest brother. He wears it still and 20 years later still works great. I serviced it every 5-6 years and made sure it was always in tip top shape. I've got several Omega's now including a Speedmaster and Aqua Terra. Omega does something no other watch company does, and that's make beautiful modern looking watching with excellent movements at an unbeatable price.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Omega is certainly close to my favourite company, if not actually my favourite… although style is subjective and some don’t like them. Their current Master Chronometer movements are the best 3-hander movements in the world, as far as I know, so yeah they are difficult to beat in terms of giving an excellent manufacture movement for the price. In terms of a company which makes beautiful watches with excellent movements and unbeatable price… well I’d say Seiko certainly fits the bill. Within Swatch group Longines catches my eye too, although mostly not manufacture movements.
@benlait36963 жыл бұрын
Easily the 2018 model far superior movement and finishing, the wave dial has to be seen close up to appreciate how well it's done. The clasp is amazing and the date position is perfect.
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing those thoughts!
@braziers5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, but you mention the latest model have a liquid-metal bezel insert... that's incorrect. Liquid metal inserts are found on the Seamaster 300, and feature a ceramic bezel with metal pressed into it. The Seamaster 300M Diver simply has a ceramic bezel with enamel painted into the laser-cut grooves.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're right, I got that bit wrong - the SMP 300M has ceramic with enamel markings.
@АндреасФернандес5 жыл бұрын
I have middle model, and very happy!
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
I am very happy with that too! :)
@razerniick9 ай бұрын
Am considering between the 2012 and 2018 version of SMP and found this. Thanks for sharing the differences between them, very educational. It helps alot! I’m leaning towards the 2012 for versatility! 😊
@PerthWAtch9 ай бұрын
Most welcome - glad you found it helpful!
@JJ_Forza5 жыл бұрын
I think the newest model is absolute perfection. Kudos to Omega for improving on an already timeless design, there’s nothing I’d change about the new model and I’m going to be picking one up in black soon
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
I think there is definitely a lot to like about it, with improvements in almost every facet. However I do really wish they kept it at 41mm, that would make it essentially perfect for me.
@JJ_Forza5 жыл бұрын
Perth WAtch I’ve seen one in person and it wears much better than I thought it would when I first saw it was 42mm, if I had any criticism at all it would probably be the size of the Helium escape valve, I do like it being there as it gives it the distinction of a seamaster, however it’s a bit too prominent on the newer model
@dollydimp850723 күн бұрын
I have ceramic dial 2007 model is it possible to change dial to new clear 2018 model.cheers great video.
@PerthWAtch23 күн бұрын
“New clear”??
@dollydimp850723 күн бұрын
@ one you can see numbers clearly 🤙
@PerthWAtch23 күн бұрын
Ah ok. No I don’t think so…
@dollydimp850722 күн бұрын
@ ok cheers 🤙
@gman96965 жыл бұрын
2220.80 is my favourite (7:00). But from your collection I'd take the 2012 co-axial.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I really would love to get my hands on the 2220.80 (first co-axial model with wave dial)!
@craigwthomson5 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate enough to pick up a pre-owned co-axial wave dial (2220.80.00) earlier this year. It’s the perfect size and I prefer the classic bezel font to the modern ceramic version, which to me, appears slightly ‘cartoonish’, especially alongside the Rolex Submariner. It has the red ‘Seamaster’ script on the dial to match the red tip of the second hand. It also has other upgrades in the form of a longer minute hand and applied markers, whilst retaining the Omega hippocampus case back design featured by the earlier models. I tend to wear mine everyday for work, but it’s currently away for servicing and the case and bracelet are being refinished. Arguably the last recognisable Bond watch before product placement got out of hand and the Omega marketing department took over. As worn by Daniel Craig during the train scene in Casino Royale. VL: “Oh, you are? I like this poker thing. And that makes perfect sense! Since MI6 looks for maladjusted young men, who give little thought to sacrificing others in order to protect Queen and country. You know... former SAS types with easy smiles and expensive watches.” [Glances at his wrist] VL: “Rolex?” JB: “Omega” VL: “Beautiful” 😘
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks for that - oh how I would have loved to get my hands on that model, I really like the muted blue and also the co-axial with wave dial. Craig wore Planet Ocean for the initial rough and tumbles of Casino Royale, and then he wore that SMP from the train scene onwards for the rest of the movie. It is recognisable and interestingly crosses over from the Brosnan era. As for the most recognisable recent Bond watch, I think without doubt it would the Seamaster 300 with Master chronometer from Skyfall... the only Craig watch that had specific screen time and also discussion about its added function (Q: “the alarm is rather loud, if you get my meaning”) :)
@craigwthomson5 жыл бұрын
Perth WAtch Thanks for the opportunity to contribute to the channel and engage with other members of the watch community! Subscribed after watching this and the Oris Aquis video - two of my favourite diver’s. Look forward to seeing what more you have in store in 2020. Best wishes, Craig (Scotland)
@davinci7452 жыл бұрын
Love the Seamasters. I bought my first Seamaster in Quartz model when I was 18 from my summer job money. After that I´ve had two seamasters in automatic 1999 and 2002. The 2002 is in for complete service now and will also change second hand+bezel ring. Really looking forward to see it in its original glory (keeping the old parts of course.) I must say I really love the vintage printing on the early model and without the rings around the markers. In my opinion it gives some of the same feel that is appreciated in vitage rolexes like 5513 and 1680 (I´ve owned those two as well). I must say however I think Omega have done alot right with the newest one, That one and the ´no time to die´model is absolutely the most tempting new buys for me at the moment.
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sharing those interesting stories! I think the Omega Master chronometers are possibly the best 3 hand movements in the world at present. I do wish they kept the newer one at 41mm and made it thinner though.
@michaelriera62775 жыл бұрын
When I tried the non wave ceramic bezel SMP I simply felt it perfect. It was sporty yet elegant and it wore very comfortable on my thin 6.25 wrist. Then the latest version was announced and i decided to wait as this model came with a complete Coaxial architecture movement not a modified ETA and there were the waves I missed from the original. When I tried it on at the Omega Boutique in NYC I was a little disappointed. I left and returned back to the store, but the feeling remained. The SMP watch is gorgeous, feature rich, but felt clumsy and heavy on my wrist. My grail watch had lost its elegance, versatility, and superior comfort. Oddly I ended up buying a watch from a brand I always avoided for making watches that were too brash, too polished, too big. I purchased a Breathing Colt 41 with a beautiful blue dial (before the recent dial simplification) that is entirely brushed (no bling), with a bracelet that is the most comfortable I've ever worn. Not a fancy coaxial like the Omega, but a chronometer grade ETA that will be easily serviceable for years...and paid $1,975 only.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Michael... yes I am afraid that the newest model has caused significant disappointment with the increase in size. I still like it very much but oh how I wish they would have kept it at 41mm!! The odd conservative Colt from Breitling is a very good alternative choice I think... I reviewed a version of that earlier and even did a head-to-head against my lacquer dial SMP. So close is the choice here that I cannot remember which one won there! :)
@Peter-tc3ep5 жыл бұрын
The Breitling colt 41 is a pretty watch always liked the chrono version with the circular pattern dial. Strange you found it smaller, the colt has longer lugs then the seamaster so they both are 50mm lug to lug. The colt is very slightly thinner by not having a crystal back and a more basic movement but very similar lug to lug. I think Breitling will make a come back soon, people have got to getting tired of Rolex.
@michaelriera62775 жыл бұрын
@@Peter-tc3epthe Breitling has a smaller diameter, thicker SS bezel with a smaller dial looks smaller, my non chrono sits flatter on the wrist, and the breitling bracelet is comparably better fitting than the Omega. The differences in dimensions are subtle, but when taken in totally offer a more comfortable wear. At least for me.
@danwhitaker51684 жыл бұрын
I have the non wave black version absolutely love it, I've tried on the new version and I don't like the helium release valve which is like a toothpaste top and the date at 6 o'clock position is hard to read.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough mate... the black lacquer dial version is also quite a good looker and is very versatile.
@bazs76697 ай бұрын
2012-2018 model is gorgeous! That deep lacquered black is mesmerising
@PerthWAtch7 ай бұрын
Yeah I tend to agree!
@Harry-tb8yo Жыл бұрын
All of these SMP are great watches and you can clearly see the evolution towards further refinement and craftsmanship. If the latter makes sense for a mass produced watch. I own the 2220.80 which was produced between 2006 and 2012. Maybe I am biased here but after having a closer look at the 2012 and 2018 SMP models I am even happier that I bought mine in 2008. The 2220.80 is a nice mix between all of the shown models here. It has the subtle wave pattern dial, the overall look and feel of the Brosnan Bond model, also its decent weight and height but the more advanced movement 2500, applied indexes, logo and branding.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
I agree, that model has a nice mix of many of the features seen here.
@jean4j_ Жыл бұрын
The 2012 has the subtle wave dial? I thought they removed it and was plain blue
@Harry-tb8yo Жыл бұрын
@@jean4j_ The model introduced in 2012 has a plain dial without the wave pattern. When I saw it for the first time it felt like something was missing but the more often I see it the more I like it because it is so different.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
The 2012 model is plain lacquer dial. The 2008 model which featured in Casino Royale has a wave dial.
@jean4j_ Жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch the one featured in casino royale was a ceramic bezel then?
@leebarrett95814 жыл бұрын
I’m fortunate enough to own the first one (auto) and I honestly think it is getting better with age, looks really cool but not flashy just like a classic car
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Lucky you... it’s a classic for sure!
@herts99994 жыл бұрын
And getting harder to find!
@jamesrobert4106 Жыл бұрын
We have the first 2 Brosnan Bond films covered. 👌 I have the Goldeneye.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Goldeneye had the quartz. The auto was in the next 3 Brosnan films. He did 4.
@certainly250911 ай бұрын
I got a 1999 41 mm auto Seamaster. Definitely the most elegant and understated of the 3 generations, IMHO.
@georgemedina37123 жыл бұрын
Y is the engraving so dark on the bezel ? The non wave dial ? I know it's liquid metal but some watches i see online it looks lightish than others
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
It's not liquid metal... it's just plain ceramic with laser etching, and I think it's one of the weak points of that watch.
@georgemedina37123 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch does it vary ? Because i just ordered online and I'm hoping it doesn't come that dark
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it should vary but it does look different depending on lighting
@Pavlis834 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t ask for a better comparison. Thank you so much
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Most welcome man - glad you enjoyed it :)
@travisduran20203 жыл бұрын
Great video! I picked up very recently a used 2531.80 (Automatic) from 2004 and I absolutely love it, however, I have some light scratches and dings on my bezel insert and bezel. If I were to send it in to Omega for a servicing, would they replace the bezel and bezel insert with the exact same font and coloring that the original model has or would they use the modern bezel insert font and color on it?
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
You’d need to make sure they have the original part to replace - the newer model parts are different dimension and are not interchangeable...
@travisduran20203 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch Gotcha, that makes sense, thank you!
@superduckcanfly3 жыл бұрын
Great video - a very clear and comprehensive comparison. Thanks for this! I like them all, and would be completely sold on the 2012 model if it had an exhibition case back, otherwise I'm leaning toward the 2018 edition.
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - glad you enjoyed the video :)
@paulbelopolsky74603 жыл бұрын
Nice review but I picked up a couple of mistakes. The date wheel on the 2012 version is black and not blue. The numbers on the bezel of the current version are not liquid metal. Liquid metal was used on the bezel of the Planet Ocean and the vintage inspired Seamaster 300.
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
Right on both counts - well spotted!
@jamessmith64025 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison I still like the quartz version 😀 thanks Ivan
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks James - yeah it’s just a bit annoying that the seconds hand on mine doesn’t hit the marks anymore... :(
@mcstarling075 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch mine doesnt either anymore, Ivan. It's still a beautiful watch and I absolutely love it. I'm going to pick up a newer model for the collection though and I may even go black dial or that grey dial.
@nicholasdibari4 ай бұрын
Great video, I’ve got one similar to the 2541.80 but it’s the 2221.80. Longer hands and has “Seamaster” in red. Love the watch and I actually don’t mind that it’s a quartz. Planning to get the 2018 at some point.
@PerthWAtch4 ай бұрын
Nice one! Thanks for sharing - all the best with your next purchase!
@michaelchen61914 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Thanks . Makes me appreciate my 90's Brosnan more. One feature I noticed is the new ones look like they have a clear back to see the mechanics. Mine is an automatic with a hard steel back.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - yeah that's right, only the newest model has the display back. Cheers!
@pshhyeahh5 жыл бұрын
I have the model you mentioned was missing from the video in black. I also have the Electric Blue sword hand model with the Bond Bezel. I was going to sell the black coaxial for a Rolex Submariner, but the sub keeps increasing in price. I recently decided that I'll be keeping both Seamasters even if I do get a subby.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Both great models I think - you’re a lucky man!!
@kaikaichen4 жыл бұрын
To me the ideal 300M would have the thinness and size of the 1993 model, the dial/face of the 2012 model, and the bezel of the 2018 model.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Haha that would be a nice watch!
@erth2man4 жыл бұрын
Over the years I have collected and used a number of Seamaster and Aqua Terra Omega watches. In my opinion the 1120 movements have proven to be such a rock solid workhorse and any watchmaker can service these quite easily. The 2500 Co-Axial in all practical use didn't seem to be better in any way I could tell. I have yet to own/use the new in house movement however, perhaps some day.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing those insights. I think there is little doubt the 1120 was perfect good and had a good track record. The 2500D has also proven to be good now, and co-axial supposedly should give better positional rate results overall (but yeah, hard to notice for us).
@matthewfriend6672 Жыл бұрын
I’m in favor of the classic James Bond style in the quartz’s. But prefer the Automatic in that Refrence number, as I own today. Just love the old slim under the cuff style, Eda movement, which keeps Exceptional time, bracelet is superb, old seahorse on back etc. Everything about this watch is beautiful and classic! Love it just the way it is. Just my opinion though, Matt❤️😀👍
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Matt - the watch is a classic for sure!
@loukrstevski65834 жыл бұрын
The 2012 watch is the easiest to dress up or dress down due to its clean design.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
That's a fair point!
@lordhumungous7908 Жыл бұрын
G'day. Would you say there is a difference in the shade of blue on the ceramic bezel insert between the 2012 and 2018 models? With all the online browsing I've done, it appears that the 2018 is a lighter shade of blue. From what I've seen and read, what you see depends on the type of light. I really need to see one in person but I worry that the lights at a dealer showroom would make it appear to be a very bright blue and I prefer a darker, deep blue colour. In this video, the 2018 does look like a lighter blue, but maybe because it's seated to the right of the 2012? Thanks. 🙂
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
I would say what you’ve described is very accurate - 2018 is a lighter blue but depending on the lighting it can be very close to the 2012. Overall it never appears “very bright”. Not sure what the worry is… if you don’t like the shade of blue that the dealer lights bring out, then that might be saying that the watch isn’t for you.
@lordhumungous7908 Жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch I really gotta see it in person. People in the forums say the colour really "pops" in the sunlight and it can appear almost black in other light. I like that shade shifting effect. I'm worried that it "pops" most of the time. Maybe that's when people like to take pictures of it. Thanks man.
@LuisFranciscoAguilar5 жыл бұрын
1st Ceramic Seamaster. Great size, and very good looking. The new one looks like toy, a bit gimmicky, looks like a fashion watch in general.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment - that's fair enough. Personally I find that I can enjoy all 3 versions here, for the strengths that each has :)
@Jabber-ig3iw4 жыл бұрын
Producer A.K.A couldn’t disagree more, of those 2 I’d have the current model without the wavy dial. Much better looking watch. Of the 3 I think the 1st one is the best looking. Slimmer and better on the wrist. That said it’s all down to personally choice, but saying the current one is gimmicky is just plain wrong.
@LuisFranciscoAguilar4 жыл бұрын
@@Jabber-ig3iw I had a SM300 2018 in black for 2 weeks. I tried, but couldn't stand it, sold it and of course, lost money on it. Poor Design in my opinion.
@alwayspooh15882 жыл бұрын
I own the early model, but I think the 2012 is the best of the three. Looking back, I wish I had got the automatic, but the quartz was the Bond model, and that skewed my view!
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Is the quartz really "the Bond model"? Granted it's the first one worn in Goldeneye, but Brosnan wore an automatic for the remainder 3 movies... arguably the automatic is the TRUE BOND MODEL ;)
@star1child1094 жыл бұрын
I keep changing my mind, so I'll have to say that I like all three in their own unique way! (but like the price of the 90s one best)
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Haha I probably feel the same way! The 90’s one is classic, but to get your hands on a great condition specimen today would be quite expensive...
@sale836 ай бұрын
Love them all, but 2531.80 is the ultimate one for me. Fortunate to have one with still perfect bezel. Piece of art.
@PerthWAtch6 ай бұрын
Beautiful - I envy you :)
@shifty69155 жыл бұрын
Really nice review of all three generations. Informative, well thought out, and concise. I inherited the 90's gen from a great family friend. It is an absolute treasure. The hand length was not a huge bother.... until you see it next to the next generation. Still a lovely piece. The later generations are better in terms of features, however I happen to like the date appearance and the bezel of the 90's. Its the 90's for me lads. (could have the updated bracelet?)
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that feedback - I am glad enjoyed this video and found it informative. The 90's SMP certainly has it's strengths and charms, which I think is part of the reason why it had such a long run and at times was Omega's best seller. Cheers!
@keithattwood593 жыл бұрын
Bought mine in 2005. Love it and wear it every day
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
Nice one :)
@bennidhem75305 жыл бұрын
I follow you from France! I love the topics you cover and in addition I work my English I do not understand everything you speak really fast but I understand the essential. what is the best choice a speed master moonwatch or a sea master 300 (black dial rubber strap)?
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that, glad you find the videos helpful! If you find I speak too fast, you could try slowing the play speed to 0.75 perhaps? KZbin has a handy feature to do that. As for what is the best choice, well there is no one right answer... those are two rather distinct watches so it really depends on what you’re looking for. Cheers!
@hogster59353 жыл бұрын
I like all three. I want one just not sure of which 2012~212** 0r 2018~210**. Leaning torwards 2018 due to movement tech. I like new tech and I could see inside the back. The etched waves is nice too. I like Longines sunray look as well, I know not in this post. Question for all. When purchasing one.. Do all or should all have the red dot showing it wasn't opened?
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
If it’s brand new, or near new, then yes it should have the red dot thing
@dustinr165 жыл бұрын
Still prefer the outgoing ceramic model. Better size with a beautiful inky dial. Looks really classy and is much more versatile. Wish they just put the 8800 movement and the upgraded clasp on the older ceramic model. Not a fan of the display back on the new model either.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I definitely would’ve loved it if they kept it at 41mm, and give us that awesome new clasp. I don’t mind the display back, I do enjoy looking at the movement - it’s not haute horology but I reckon it’s pretty nonetheless :)
@dustinr165 жыл бұрын
Perth WAtch I get the “value” of a luxury dive watch having a display back (8800 is a nice movement) but seems contradictory in a watch that has a helium escape vale trying to be a “tool watch”. I guess I miss the engraving of the hippocampus on the Seamaster caseback. Wish I picked up one of the older ones. The new one at 42mm and nearly 50mm lug to lug is way too big for my 6.5” wrist. Hope they do a smaller midsize (36-40mm) version one day.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is somewhat of a contradiction having a display back on a purportedly 300m diver, but what the hey, I love it :P Well they did put out a 36.5mm of the previous model I think so there's at least some likelihood of a smaller one coming out in future :)
@mazin134 жыл бұрын
I own the first generation automatic. Thinking about the newer generation but wondering if it's like buying a very similar watch to the one I have. I was thinking of getting a completely different color combo to make sure it looks and feels different than the one I have. Do you think it would feel like a different watch?
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
I would say it certainly feels different, although of course you can’t ignore the similarities, including the feel of the bracelet. The case and movement are different enough I feel.
@thewattbomber2 жыл бұрын
2nd generation is a beauty and a half.
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@georges30613 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid - congrats - I have the 2012 version. As you rightly noted, very classy. Also the watch pops in the light especially the framed date. But my issue with the watch was the bracelet - I found it too garish and it lacked a micro-adjustment , though I am told that Omega could replace it with the micro adjust clasp for a relatively cheap price. I opted to replace the bracelet with a Zealande blue rubber strap. It is nice and durable. I also had problems with the bezel as it is a bit difficult to grasp while turning. I was impressed by the GMT version and am looking now to find one on the pre-owned market.
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! Personally I like the bracelet but yeah it doesn’t have micro adjust. An original Omega clasp with that feature is somewhere over $200 I believe.
@Dave062YT5 жыл бұрын
20I2 is the clear winner ,wave dial on the new model is trying too hard and as you point out the hand set on the 90 s lets it down .The 20I2 just gets it all right and even the slightly faded looking bezel adds character and style .Not a fan of blue dial watches myself so the black dial still looks the best to me .
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing those thoughts! I’m a sucker for blue watches and personally do enjoy all 3 generations here despite the minor weaknesses present in each one. Cheers!
@MrGuto7 ай бұрын
Great comparison! The original 1993 model is my favorite! I have one of these.
@PerthWAtch7 ай бұрын
Interesting - would it still be your favourite if you only had the 2012 model?
@MrGuto7 ай бұрын
@@PerthWAtch based on your review, yes. I never handled on though. maybe I'd have another opinion if I did.
@PerthWAtch7 ай бұрын
Fair enough mate! 👍
@koryreid75664 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! I own the 2012 model because I couldn’t stand the cartoonish bezel and wavy dial of the new generation.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
You bought that after checking out the current model?
@realfire68834 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled across this. Like always your videos are awesome. I still am in love with my 2007 2531.80, just actually got it back from Omega service and this watch is the one that still brings a smile to my face when I wear it. You can wear this watch with shorts and flip flops or a tuxedo, very versatile and one I'll never part with!
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - yeah luxury divers have made their way into more formal wardrobes, and this one works with nearly anything in that context. Strictly speaking however one should stick to a proper dress watch when going with a tux.
@realfire68834 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch if james bond can wear with a tux, so can I lol
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@haybob25275 жыл бұрын
I suppose everyone has to have an Omega in their collection ..I have a 1999 Seamaster Chronometer(Cal-1120) white dial, and only 36 mm case..Looks very small compared to your ones..)
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Wow 36mm, that’s cool! Would indeed look very small in comparison to these “monsters”. Thanks for sharing that :)
@hugomota36962 жыл бұрын
So good to see those second hands syncronized!
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Chalk it up to my OCD :)
@watchyourstyle4 жыл бұрын
I own the middle and right one. While I like the newest one in terms of tech, it’s way too bulky and the bracelet isn’t comfortable at all. I much prefer the previous generation overall.
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@Mark-lj1dj7 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 white dial. It's my absolute favourite. Whilst the earlier ones might be more classic i just love what it evolved into. Coaxial escapement, great micro adjustment on the bracelet and METAS certification. I certainly couldn't enjoy a watch with a quartz movement
@PerthWAtch7 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts - it’s a great watch and it’s an evolution of everything the SMP 300 represents, although I do lament the increase in thickness.
@Mark-lj1dj7 ай бұрын
@@PerthWAtch yeah the thickness is potentially a downside but luckily I've got quite big wrists so I don't really notice.
@PerthWAtch7 ай бұрын
Fair enough mate!
@exvan35714 жыл бұрын
Excellent work sir! This vid will remain relevant for years! Have the 2012 SMPc in black, it does everything well and I prefer it overall. You've convinced me to put the 2018 in blue on the list.,") Cheers!
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that - glad that you appreciate the "evergreen" aspect of the video. At least until the next version comes out! :)
@swampThaang4 жыл бұрын
Is turning the bezel any easier on any of these, or is it just as difficult for all of them?
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Just as easy for all of them I'd say ;)
@TedCornish5 жыл бұрын
I'd love them all Ivan. They are one of the most stunning watches available
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
A worthy addition to the wish-list for sure Ted! :)
@TedCornish5 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch my grail list as as long as a long thing but slightly longer
@whereRbearsTeeth4 жыл бұрын
Cornish Watch Reviews, huh??
@leonardocozza31405 ай бұрын
15,5 cm wrist here. WOuld the 2012 be too big for me? thanks
@PerthWAtch5 ай бұрын
Most likely I reckon
@tomscott44382 жыл бұрын
I have the middle version and I love it. Tried it on a NATO for a bit, but it's it back on the bracelet and it's definitely the best look. The one modification I made was to swap out the clasp and go with the one from the newest model for it's five-position adjustability. If they made a white "polar" dial of the newer model without the waves, I would buy it in a heartbeat. BTW, the date dial color on the middle version is actually black not blue.
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do so wish they had some sort of micro-adjust capability in the middle version. And yes, you're right, it's a black date wheel.
@tomscott44382 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch The clasp from the newest version will work on the previous model, it just sets you back $225 $USD.
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure? The bracelets are actually slightly different. You could get the contemporary Planet Ocean clasp which does have the adjustment, and which I understand does fit.
@marcod.r.32992 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch I had the clasp of my 2012 Seamaster changed in an Omega Boutique about 4 years ago for one with a microadjustment...if I remember correctly it was 180 EUR
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Marco - you’ve confirmed that there is a micro adjust clasp that will fit the 2012 model but your experience does not confirm that you got the newest version (released late 2018).
@Longshore795 жыл бұрын
The middle one for me 2012-2017
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
You have good taste ;)
@roostertheguy Жыл бұрын
I noticed the first one has a gap between the case and the crown. Mine has that aswell, I thought there might be an issue but maybe not?
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
You mean a gap between the crown and the bezel? That’s normal, you can’t have them rubbing. There is no gap between the case and crown when it’s screwed in.
@stephendonnelly45242 жыл бұрын
Plain , no wave face is by far a classier looking watch. Everyday, everywhere, every time, end of.
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Maybe. Old and new models also good.
@billcore62953 жыл бұрын
I owna 2017 Omega Seamaster and love it; mine is a black dial. Picked it instead of purchasing a Rolex submariner.... Now debating on getting a 2020 tokyo seamaster....but I have a lot of watches and it's hard to justify
@PerthWAtch3 жыл бұрын
Haha I was thinking that special edition might be good to get... you know, the Olympic year that wasn’t, and all :)
@andrewbalahura15554 жыл бұрын
Date must be on “3 “ position !! Love my black 2012 ✌🏻
@PerthWAtch4 жыл бұрын
Why "must be"?
@davidnewman67222 жыл бұрын
What about the 2220.80?
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
What about it?
@Eric999002 жыл бұрын
The 2220.80 is, in my opinion a better choice than both the 1st gen quartz and the ceramic model
@PerthWAtch2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying, most appreciated ;)
@InChristJesus875 жыл бұрын
The three are spectacular but the newest one imo is the one to get. I'm a little biased because I have the black one but if I were to choose only 1 out if my collection it would be that one.
@PerthWAtch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - I think objectively speaking the newest one is definitely superior in all measurable domains :)
@danialhughes830 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! I own the 90’s model, I have worn it every day since I got it (about 15 years) and I still love it! My only gripe is it’s been back to Omega quite a few times for a service. I like the idea of the longer service intervals of the coaxial movement but the new Seamasters feel much bigger.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Why did you have to take it back so many times? The new 42mm size model definitely feel much bigger on the wrist
@danialhughes830 Жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch It started losing significant amounts of time. Like a couple of minutes a day.
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Oh darn, that’s not good!
@Stallzyx Жыл бұрын
@@danialhughes830 I guess that's what happens on the auto one more than quartz?