OMG If You Coil Your Speaker Cable You're Gonna Lose Fidelity?!?

[@peterotremba8980]

Finally, someone who is putting REAL SCIENCE behind speaker cables! Thankyou Audioholics!

[@timeWaster76]

Wouldn't you know after 2 years, 69K views and only 3K likes . People don't like hearing the truth ... I worked i a physics lab we did similar test but more testing on sound coming off the speaker we used hi end research gear. and NADA .... when we measures at the cables at connectors. how tight the binding posters were made a difference but so far out from audio range and human hearing ... well unless the connections were loose that made a difference anyone could hear.. like cracking.

[@DF-et4gs]

Thanks for talking some sense into me Gene. I was starting to get sucked in to all the fancy braided cables when I know better. My 12 gauge in wall cable is just fine.

[@Lif-999]

Hi Gene, Came across this piece whilst researching diy speaker cables. What was good science three years ago remains good science now. Thanks for your effort.

[@richarddortch6122]

More and more I find myself making the same statement to my audio buddies. Does it make a difference? Yes Can you measure the difference? Yes Can you hear those differences? Most likely not Do you want to spend money chasing that kind of difference? Most Likely Not

[@TofumanFC3S]

“Most likely not” is more like “definitely not” unless your mates come from Krypton or something

[@stefanfrankel8157]

I have noticed that room size and shape make so much more of a difference that the coil issue is just silly.

[@adamsonlinearrayspeakersha87]

Hello

[@nihilityjoey]

The same can be said for any audio equipment then. Why spend 10 grand on a set of speakers if you can get a set with the same frequency response, same amount of speakers? Especially if the room is what will give you the most control over the overall sound? Is the change in wave guide the game changer? I mean you can measure the difference the wave guide has on the crossover point can you not? Can the majority of people hear the difference? And is that difference worth another 8 grand? The amp might be more efficient at running your speakers, can you HEAR the difference? I find it interesting how the audiophiles get a lot of flack, yet even at the other scale the differences in the tech you get from each price jump is just as "emotionally driven" when choices are made. Why did gene chose the speakers and amps he did given what else is comparable out there? I mean sure he can maybe measure the differences, but can he hear then? And is the difference worth the extra in price, and if not WHY make the choice. There is a measurable difference when the cable was rolled up, in that respect no one was wrong. Can the difference be heard? Well again, I'll refer you to what I've just written.

[@richarddortch6122]

@@nihilityjoey You pretty much proved my point. Just in a LOT more words. Unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket, just buy what sounds good to you that is reasonably within your budget. Room setup is free, treatment costs a bit. I would argue that the extra 8k might be better spent on room treatment than the speakers. You'd have measurable AND audible improvement if done right.

[@audioman3017]

Thanks Gene, you are a real asset to us audioholics

[@Empyre47AT]

You should see my velcro-tied bundle of cables behind my setup. I haven't noticed a lick of difference in audio performance as opposed to having a rats' nest of wires.

[@myhiddennewsreport7238]

Nice video.. I always wondered if this was or was not a factor. Real world knowledge like this very useful. Thnx!

[@Nelthalin]

Good advice! and great info. It have cut most of my cables to size. But now i was looking into moving the speakers to improve the sound and now i dont have the extra length. To be fair before i cut the cables the speakers where already in that position for months. And now we are 5 years further. But with new insights i wanted to see what i could do to improve. I can move them around a little but not really forward away from the wall. I will just buy some extra cable for the fronts to test if i hear a audible difference when moving them forward. Now they are nicely in line with the center. That center i cannot move forward because of the TV But after seeing your data about coiling up having almost no effect i will keep some extra margin in the future and tuck it away.

[@blaise2628]

Exactly what I was looking for, on what to do about extra cable length , thank you Gene!

[@Jim90wa]

Thank You Sir. You are alway's so Informative and your straightforward way of conferring information is very refreshing!

[@Nightjar726]

Super looking forward to the next vid of measuring audio performance from different cables. Good stuff !

[@JCLADOG]

Although I have no idea what you're talking about, your message is clear! Thanks for saving me $1,000's on my wire budget as I'm building my 2.0 system now.

[@guilhermedealmeida2299]

Hi, Gene, Very interesting and well done work. As we can see, the increase in inductance, comparing a cable straight and the same cable coiled is minimal: 2.36uH to 2.56uH. It could be also interesting to compare the cable capacitance in the same both conditions (straight cable and coiled cable). Regards.

[@mrd.2090]

So not even if we had the hearing of a bottlenose dolphin or a bat... would coiling our cables make an audible difference! :) Thanks for the video Gene!

[@Baerchenization]

Nonononnoo... of course it makes a difference, only, we cannot measure it ;)

[@kx8960]

@@Baerchenization ...so, it doesn't make a difference to US...

[@danielgeiger7739]

I was recently wondering about exactly this, not just for speaker cables but for any cable. Thanks for doing the measurements and showing the calculations. Very helpful.

[@bighands69]

Coiling cables only become an issue when there is a larger load, potential temperature increases and when the cable has a very long distance to cover. In building electrical systems it can become an issue when there is something like an electric shower or motor being driven with a cable covering hundreds of feet. So how they overcome issues with electrical cables they use larger cross sectional areas to drive impedance down so in other words they use a thicker cable.

[@08ExigeS240]

How about do some measurements of the effect of having power cables next to audio cables? Balanced and unbalanced. Thanks!

[@Jcan4u]

i have seen the effects of this in car audio and if not properly separeated or installed with supressors that changes the fedlity of your equipment, the engine noise comes through so yes that you would be nice to know

[@08ExigeS240]

To my understanding it’s best practice to keep power cables separated to reduce the chance of noise interference but of course with multi channel processors, multiple amplifiers, and wide variety of devices connected that becomes more of a challenge. Would be nice to know if it is worth the effort to organize all the cables neatly or does balanced cables eliminates any potential problems.

[@Jcan4u]

@@08ExigeS240 aggread for the same reason it posses an interest for me as it has become difficult to separate.

[@jarodreddig63]

@@Jcan4u yes in car audio i def found that out too

[@harpalchauhan428]

I use a voltage tester on high sensitivity so it gives me that extra couple inches from where it picks up a current other wise electrical interference on standard is not much then a inch or two. Use it to keep speaker cables apart from each other as they have a current it picks up. And thx to my brother i have some conduits made by icore who produce stuff for the military and airlines to avoid 0% electrical and radio signal coming into your cable. i have put about some on my power cables and on high sensitivity the voltage meter picks up 0% of electrical current. Only have it because when icore would make a mistake producing the conduit it would get scrapped lol lucky for me simple thing like couple mm wide or thin made it defect lol. Even have there conduit that has a metal braid outside then the conduit inside it and that goes for £200 a meter + i have 7 meters of that also thanks to my older brother who worked there.

[@Antimonkat]

I really like that you use science to differentiate between best practice, bull crap, and reality. At the end fo the day peopel spend a lot of time, energy, and money on things that in reality, don't improve, or degrade their experience, which is what it should be about, the experience and enjoyment of the hobby and content. I mean the producers of content, don't put as much effort in to signal integrity as some of these home listeners do. Overkill to a fault.

[@garyrowe58]

It's great that you can give the details of these components that are part of systems. However, as the whole purpose of each system is to deliver sound to the listener's position in space, shouldn't you be measuring the differences to that, when you make changes to the type/length/connectors/topology etc. of speaker and interconnect cables?

[@ERROL007]

Thank God that up. I was seriously worried that my coiled cables had beginnings of creating a black hole. Phew, I can rest in peace now :-)

[@normbal]

Might be where all the stray demons are entering our universe…

[@svp2864]

Great review, thank you! 👍This perfectly answers my question on whether I can buy similar lengths speaker wires and get any loss in sound quality since one speaker is 6 feet closer to receiver than another. I should see no audible difference.

[@uriel-heavensguardian8949]

Awesome video!!!! I have speaker cable coiled to hide the extra and wondered about this. Thank you for sharing.

[@vinmirarchi]

My speaker cable's are 2 weeks past their expiration date and are now starting to sound stale. Anyone else experiencing this?

[@user-ex9zm7bg3x]

I cryogenically treated mine for freshness but now they won't stop shivering.

[@bighands69]

It is probably oxidation that is causing a lowering of the potential electron affinity. Or I could just say it is horse crap.

[@isettech]

Technically the coil for twisted pair has little effect except the cable is too long with the extra length adding more resistance due to more length, more capacitance due to more length, and more inductance due to more length. Resistance, inductance, and capacitance are all per foot or per unit of length properties of any cable. For test equipment, consider adding a TDR to your tool kit as it can be used to measure the nominal impedance of cable as well as length if the dielectric is known or dielectric constant if the length is known. If your speaker cables were two single conductor wires and you coiled them each by themselves, the yes, you make a solenoid cable. However if you coil a braided, or twisted pair cable, you again have an inductor, but in a configuration known as a Bifilar Coil. The inductance reacts to common mode current on the cable, not the differential mode signal to the speaker. See Bifilar Coil for more information.

[@gregwx]

My speaker cables has over 80" left-over because I move from a bigger room to a smaller, coiled behind the AVR, bothers me should I cut it? with a few slack to avoid tension. Thanks Gene for put the time on look into this subject.

[@juanmillaruelo7647]

I wouldn't take the trouble. Inaudible effect.

[@joshua43214]

For a cable that long, you should absolutely do something about it, and it will be audible. You don't have to cut it, just lay it back and forth cross wise so the loops cross each other. Here is a real professional big name expert (he is a really big deal in pro-audio) doing a nice demo of signal loss in a speaker cable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXzSoIqegqyHY80 The example is extreme for most home audio, but applies directly to you. It is the first in a short series, I suggest you watch them all

[@gregwx]

@@joshua43214 Thank you very much, definitely gonna check it!

[@JKadison]

Nice to know that my thinking was actually correct!

[@jondu-sud274]

Thank you, good to know and thanks for sharing, I have just moved house and need to set up my system again.

[@SwirlingDragonMist]

I once put a pair of bookshelves right next to my amplifier, coiled up the excess wire and stuffed it into the port of the speaker, well the tweeters melted from parasitic oscillation in the feedback of the wire picking up the driver's emited EMi. You may want to add a word of caution on where these coils are placed. A little bundle right next to the speaker is in my experience an absolutely catastrophic mistake. I feel EMi is highly underestimated, especially around single ended RCA interconnects, I'm pursuing braided power cables and toroidal power supplies for that very reason. But just interpreting the "inverse square law" with enough sense to not stuff wires inside your speakers is probably enough to avoid a meltdown ;P

[@bighands69]

My god what sort of a load where you driving. Was it a 100,000 volt system with thousands of amps of fault current?

[@SwirlingDragonMist]

@@bighands69 Naw just some rather forgettable entry level Pioneer receiver from the 70's running Philips bookshelf speakers, the ones with the 2" ribbon tweeters and 5" grey concave woofers. in pretty cherry cabinets. Very nice build quality on those with buttery smooth port flaring. Volume was elevated, but was listenable in loudness. Probably less than 80db. The thing that melted the tweeters was the Parasitic Oscillation, it ramps out of control at high frequencies. Sounded fine.

[@Gheist44]

Thank you! I've been wondering about this for a long time... but was too lazy to do the measurements myself.

[@stevethetoolman2435]

Great video. I’m a avid music listener and your expert advice really helps.

[@VegasVaron]

Thank you. Very informative and matter of fact delivery.

[@carpo719]

I've heard if you put diamonds all around them it will absorb any interference and take you back in time to the studio to actually change the original recording.

[@Baerchenization]

What do you think of Ehtan Weiner's Null Tester? Can you / will you get one?

[@isaaccraig3666]

Please do pwr cables mixed with speaker cables and/or RCA cables? Like everyone else, i separate them. Its a massive hassle though. If it doesnt make a difference it will make a huge difference to my cable management

[@harpalchauhan428]

Thank you for pointing out the coil effect for last 11 years i wondered if the extra 2 meters i have on all 4 back channels would cause any interference. It be nice to see you put big brand cables to the SWORD LOL.👏👏👏

[@CobraChamp]

Thanks for measuring that. I’ve always wondered if it made a difference. Now we know!

[@garethkalejs8667]

Love that you're a Grogu/Mando fan. Raises the status of your site to 11!!!

[@deanedgx]

Gene and Amir shining a light on the murky home audio industry. Awesome work guys.

[@nicoras8803]

I take it that you are an owner of murky audio equipment and listen to it. What would you say to the murky food your wife dishes up to you, do eat it because you have to or do you enjoy it, where is the science in it.

[@deanedgx]

@@nicoras8803 what are you talking about?

[@zogzog1063]

These are the only two channels for me.

[@TheEchelon]

@@nicoras8803 You forgot to take your crazy pills buddy?

[@joeythedime1838]

What would this mean if you need to coil a few loops with interconnects? I have ~3 loops in my balanced XLR interconnects.

[@jamestyrer6067]

Enjoy your videos. You have great way of explaining the topics.

[@kelvinlee7423]

Can try to measure CAT7 LAN cable compared with normal speaker whether any significant difference

[@xcvbxcvb2179]

Did you test the cables with real high current swings? as it is during music playing? The difference will be clear during heavy loads and load swings.

[@daleromney6062]

Nice video. I always knew this to be the fact (as an EE), but had never seen measurements and conclusions before. Very nice. I would like to see a review comparing balanced vs. unbalanced cables for sound quality. I don't think there should really be any difference for reasonable lengths.

[@rabarebra]

FULLY balanced, of course there is a difference with a two-wire active balanced were cold is out of phase of hot, versus the unbalanced with only the hot connector. Also a fully balanced +4dB output has about 6dB bigger headroom - more dynamic range.

[@musicman8270]

I love the shorter cables you can get from Monoprice. I bought a bag of 1 ft power cords for a decent price because my power strip runs right behind my gear, same with interconnects. Gets rid of a lot of "cable clutter "

[@birdsoup777]

Thank you Audioholics. Awesome Channel

[@CompetentSalesUSA]

Thank you for getting the truth out.

[@ASSOpid]

Well that depends if the cable is coiled on carpet or hardwood floors. Also if it's the first Tuesday of the month on a leap year.....

[@user-ex9zm7bg3x]

clockwise or counter-clockwise?

[@ASSOpid]

@@user-ex9zm7bg3x Ohhh that all depends on the phase of the moon. Clockwise if it's a new moon. Counter clockwise only on odd number years...

[@fivish]

I have a Samsung TV sound bar and woofer. The woofer connects to the sound bar with a long length of very fine wire. Its in a bit of a coil. The woofer sounds deep and powerful.

[@Impackon]

Does difference in speaker cable lengte have an influence. For example left channel 2,5 meter and right channel 5 meter? Or better keep them the same and coil the left chanel cable lenght?

[@rwils6333]

Capacitance of long speaker cables is much more of a stability issue in amplifier design. We add a inductor of 0.8 to 1.2 uH internal to the Amp. Extra inductance formed by a small length of speaker cables coiled under your couch might actually not be too bad a thing.

[@utube321piotr]

I thought the twisted pair speaker cable is more resistant to ambient RF interference/noise. No?

[@harpalchauhan428]

Would there be any chance of a video ,about what are the effects of having power cable in coil, compared to figure 8.

[@arnask7071]

Hi, does ferrite cores on RCA audio interconnect cables affect sound quality? Thanks.

[@Andrewatnanz]

you and your measurements ! How am i gonna sell special magic wooden cable risers ?

[@mechtheist]

Did you go with a right-hand coil or a left-hand coil?

[@jonsays3762]

Wow, I had this question after thinking about me and my dad making an electromagnet back when I was in fourth grade. I didn’t expect it to make a diff in sound, but thanks for the breakdown.

[@troyradley5168]

do you guys have any updates on the yamaha avantage series for 2021 i want a new receiver but looks like onkyo is out of business

[@cedricnavarra782]

11:52 AM I accidentally placed my speaker under suns heat. After that im starting to have a gut feel it has affected the sound fidility. Then this time im comparing it my my sony mini speaker and i think it really deteriorates the sound quality. Pls help

[@chriswithall2518]

Great video Gene thanks for quantifying it.

[@preston6945]

Have you measured the measuring cables?. Does audioquest make cables for your wayne kerr unit?????

[@Audioholics]

@preston6945 No, their cables would fail miserably as test leads.

[@patricknicolucci5073]

Great info as usual Gene

[@zkid1582]

UR new house rocks man GLAD 4 U Man

[@elongatuspiranha]

This is the reason I have yet to do cable management behind my rack ;). It's a MESS!!

[@bighands69]

If you have 500 cables behind there you may have a problem but it is unlikely that you have that many cables back there.

[@rianredfield5252]

Good stuff Gene, could we see some tips on tidying cables in the back of audio racks/cabinets sometime? Like the average 4-5shelve units with multiple components and a myriad of wires!

[@mikrophonie5633]

"wayne kerr" lol, there are lots of "wayne kerrs" in the audiophile world

[@chefsteve8381]

especially cables, you stole my thunder lol

[@Paxmax]

I always... and I emphasize A L W A Y S hear this manufacturer with a Beavis and Butthead voice in my head... MTV damaged my childhood. Ha! =o)

[@NorthenSoul]

Is he a friend of Mike Hunt?

[@forbeginnersandbeyond6089]

Thanks. Great technical explanation. Erases any doubt.

[@beer_goggler]

I'm pretty sure Danny Richie invented the Wayn Kerr meter. It's named after him.

[@Daves2024]

That was a good one!

[@Adrian-jh5cr]

lol mine have been coiled for years and I still use them without any issues!

[@randyreinninger6826]

Thank you for the true facts and going through the details in explaining how you came up with the results and if it will affect the sound quality. Your a true master Sr. Keep On Keeping On

[@francisking5164]

This subject has been haunting a good portion of viewers and I do remember the conversation I had with salesmen giving me that very faulty information; at the time of this "Inception", I was young and very naive.

[@TheKb117]

me liking this engineering measurement of audio-related gears and components...

[@joeg7849]

Real engineering! Thank you!

[@MrBravo143]

I disagree. When coiling a cable, electricity needs run round and round and round.. that makes the electricity tired and confused. So when the electricity reached the speaker it will be so weak and the sound produced from the speaker also tired,weak and confused. This cannot be measured and understandable for normal people. Only can experience audiophiles.

[@Richard-bq3ni]

And the electrons in the outer loop of the wire have a longer path compared to the electrons in the inner loop. So the sound gets smeared. And the electrons get dizzy if course, also very bad for your sound. End that is the end of my very scientific contribution on this topic.

[@fubartotale3389]

I'M UNCOILING MY CABLES RIGHT AWAY! HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO FOOLISH? WOE IS ME.....

[@tony9554]

:-) !

[@SteelBlueVision]

If you can't hear the difference, it's obvious that your equipment is not revealing enough! /sarcasm

[@MrBravo143]

@@SteelBlueVision it's an illusion bro. Placebo effect.

[@livewirekva]

And not to mention, that was the entire 20ft coiled when you tested it. so yeah, coiling a few extra feet matter not. great video.

[@sergiofernandes2072]

Hey Gene would it be possible to make a video about good quality affordable component racks?

[@kendoglarson5419]

How about comparing OCC vs OFC speaker cable? Can you do a vid on that? I've done my own comparison, but I want to see a pro do it with those pro tools. I've done it from individual recordings and analysis of those outputs and there is most definitely a difference in performance.

[@watsonanthony8438]

Lol. Ofc vs copper is more related to coffee straw vs fountain drink straw lol

[@tonymaldonado8116]

Thanks for videos.. I want to add an amp to my av receiver but not enough preouts have you used or recommend russound 1.2 adp speaker level to line level adapter...or do you have any other recommendations

[@Kareggan]

Thank you for another informative video!

[@Finn-McCool]

Looking behind my theater components you would think that I could control the Luna lander and the Mars probe. Thankfully I paid enough for my tree trunk power cable though, 😉so at least I can sleep at night. My question is this: how many patents have been issued to these cable and cord manufacturers?

[@rf14dmb]

Have you ever measured various types of terminations? I've heard spades are best but which ones, and are they measurably better than bananas?

[@redstang5150]

Gene has said that he doesn't prefer spades because they can become loose, not because they are less conductive. I agree - it would be interesting to see someone measure various termination types - I have to think that there would be no audible difference but am curious if even the tiniest measurable difference could be detected.

[@johanakerblad339]

Many thanks for your very professional investigation and presentation! As an engineer I totally agree with your findings! It is always important to judge the relevance of values and you really showed the facts with your test and calculations. Impressive!

[@gregkramer5588]

Thanks Gene, Just a bit of study in regards to inductance and capacitance and working with the math involved. Would give people a much better idea about how things can be orders of magnitude to small to hear.

[@jimmykaka89]

Is it true that you need to keep all your cables the same length? If so being able to coil them without effect is great.

[@Audioholics]

Here is your answer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYmzcp2kos1-lck

[@jimmykaka89]

@@Audioholics thanks gene 👌

[@WiliiamNoTell]

Appreciate your scientific knowledge

[@iampuzzleman282]

I connect my spkrs with twine, sounds great!!!

[@satchelm0uth]

There's a market for audio cables that look good, are marginally more expensive than normal ofc copper cables, and are marketed honestly. Someone, please make this so and take my money.

[@SunsetWingman]

I don't coil my cables, I do a zig zag wave thing. That way when people ask me why I do it I can spout off some crap they have never heard of and look smart... True audiophile lol

[@JonathanDFielding]

Agreed. it has very little affect because the load is so strong, or low impedance 8 or 4 ohm. Do the same measurement on a low line level signal between something with 1v line level RCAs, then coil it and connect it to a high impedance input - something with like 10k ohm input, or even better, into a phone pre-amp.

[@hardware4200]

What do you think of GR Audio perspective on cables

[@Audioholics]

Nauseating

[@filippiasec]

MS Natural Keyboard 4000... love them, but so hard to get.

[@939Productions]

I always thought it was about interference. Is there a measurement for that?

[@cobar5342]

Thank yu for very well done analysis

[@blackwaters2400]

Gene, I have to hand it to you, your one honest man that can teach a newer generation not to subscribe to the expensive snake oil around speaker cables interconnects and power cords. I have had systems since the early seventies, and in the later eighties, the industry really went downhill; the small audio store could not stay in business. But a great way for them to make a profit was the high-end speaker cable and power cords (more now than ever). It still did not save them, and they are gone sadly. For many years I got to sit in some small shops and listen and learn and spent some time at Technosonic Studios (now torn down for a shopping mall) in the St. Louis suburbs. Yes, I have spent more than one probably should one high-end equipment, Accuphase, McIntosh, B&W, Sony ES, many Marantz (still have three receivers), double Advents, EPOS, BOSE (1970's), early NHT, Klipsch Corners, LasScala's and Heresey's (my home theatre with Marantz Projector, circa 2007) Except for a few pieces, all were bought used, have had my Accuphase Amps for 41 years. I really get irritated with the false claims and even worse by the adjectives used by so many to describe cables and power cords. But, there was a savior, to saving me probably several thousands of dollars over the last 45 years. Gordon Gow, the CEO of McIntosh, and their lead speaker engineer, Roger Russel, demonstrated to me back in the 1980s that regular old pure copper wire is all you need. Wow, why would they do this? They even put on a roadshow, double-blind, and were proved it over and over. Think about that era; at the time, you would have to say McIntosh was about one of the higher-end products made right here in the United States. There was a manufacturer of audio equipment, and their message was, don't waste your money on all these false claims. They backed it with science and engineering, they were well educated, and they, like you, just HONEST. Gordon Gow is long gone; what an icon and the job he did with that company, but I had also had the pleasure of communicating with Roger Russel (a degreed electronic engineer) and lead speaker designer at McIntosh during those years. Still have the memos. What he and Gordon Gow said 30 years ago, I think, needs to be referenced more today. Most cable manufacturers do not have the education or one-hundredth of the audio industry clout these men had. Yes, it was two-channel audio, but the science is the same. It amazes me how so many people praise McIntosh over that period in time, and how good the equipment was, yet at the same time will disagree with the science of their lead speaker designer (degreed electronical engineer) and the CEO of the company and insist that one must spend hundreds and even thousands on wire. Anyway, wish you would throw those old audio guys some light and try to continue as you do to spread the honesty about what I think is the dark side of the industry. I am sure you don't get many ads from any of the suspects, but that takes an honest man teaching many how to enjoy such a great hobby. These men were well into their careers at even that time. Roger still has his site up; few will ever take the time to read and learn; maybe you can get a phone call, skype or zoom with such an icon? Fellow readers, follow Gene's advice!

[@Audioholics]

Thx for your kind words. Yes I spoke to Roger Russell many moons ago when I started debunking cable snake oil. Good guy for sure.

[@tallpaull9367]

@@Audioholics Could you measure and A/B test GR-Research braided speaker cable, that would be interesting

[@ericnortan9012]

I coil mine. They are pretty stiff so I can pull them out and when I put them back the coils fall right back into place. It's 12 awg shielded with a braided sheathing. Sounds great.

[@stevec3537]

Gene, I know you don't like these cable questions. But, when I look at your charts, the Kimber 8TC and 4TC seem to perform better and flatter across frequencies than all the others. Am I reading this right? I'm thinking the others will actually cause rolloff above 5 or 10khz. Did I read it right?

[@BigTrixxx]

Oh my God, I love these thumbnails! pure #audioangst!!!

[@Jcan4u]

Hi Jean does having speakers in a set up of difrent ohms adds any difficulty in setting up your system ?

[@badonkadonkskidz]

Wayne Kerr? Hahaha. What a great name. He needs to meet my friend, Jack Mehoff.

[@cpufrost]

Funniest argument I've heard against (coiling) was this: "Imagine your car is an electron, it's well known that if you go too fast around a turn your car tries to go straight and you'll crash because you will go off the road. Except electrons cannot slow down due to physics. They are going the speed of light. When you coil a cable, you're increasing the tightness of the curve and they will fly off the wire! This is the loss you're hearing, as less electrons means less energy to move your speaker cones, your amp works harder, you turn up the volume and things distort even more!" Good thing I wasn't eating because I would have probably choked! :-D

[@NanoDex]

Thank you! Proper debunking!

[@TylerStout]

Is that excel sheet located somewhere on your website or only available for your patrons?

[@Audioholics]

It's internal but I will be putting all the cable data I measure on our patreon soon